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Warmer Air, More & Warmer Water, More Disease


Environment  (tags: global warming, waterborne diseases, climate change, rainfall, contamination )

RC
- 407 days ago - washingtonpost.com
Climatologists and epidemiologists fear that increased moisture in the air due to climate changes - dare we say global warming? - will bring more rain, and along with that, a resurgence in waterborne diseases.
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RC deWinter (418)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 5:26 am
With the increased runoff from more rain, it really does present a rather grim picture of how diseases like cholera, West Nile (water being the spawning ground for mosquitoes) and other potentially deadly outbreaks cold begin to proliferate.
 

Joycey B. (694)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 5:42 am
This is a very scarey thing to hear. Thanks Cate.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 6:29 am
They are right! It will happen and is already happening in Africa.
Louise B.
 

Tsandi Crew (95)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 6:51 am
Now, put me right. Diseases are waterbourne, but we wash our hands with water, and, admittedly, soap, to get rid of diseases....we put chlorine in our pools to get rid of diseases, we treat our drinking water with chemicals to get rid of diseases, we put so much garbage and spill so much oil in the oceans to kill the fish,,,,,,how can there be any diseases left????? And those mosquitoes, I want to know how they have proliferated on all the extra CO2? I'm inundated by them.

So, are we at war with water? The very thing our planet needs for us to survive? Is this someone's nightmare? Are we back to the middle ages where the streets were full of garbage (well, that may not be a good question, when our garbage men go on strike) when we didn't know enough to keep our little plots clean? to turn buckets over? to keep the lids on the garbage containers closed to keep the rain out?

Or are we just not taking individual responsibilities for our environment to keep our little plots cleaned up? Are we as individuals not paying attention and just expecting our government, that big thing we keep criticizing as being too big, to do it all for us? As we pay more and more taxes to pay for it and complain that we pay too many taxes?

I'll be if we pay more attention to our immediate environment, just the little plots around each of us, we will become more aware of how local environment affects global environment. That awareness might be effective. It might be part of our ability to adjust to change, and our ability to survive change. It's just a thot.
 

Judith J. (199)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 8:06 am
Very frightening and very real! And it's happening!
Thank you Cate! Noted!
 

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 8:46 am
Very FAKE actually.

Warmer doesn't mean more disease...and it's getting cooler.

Cooler means COLD in the North...that means more disease as street people are more vulnerable. Look for more TB.

How you all can swallow this nonsense is one of the miracles of modern mass brainwashing.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/10/20/national-post-thirty-years-of-warmer-temperatures-go-poof/

Posted: October 20, 2008
Lorne Gunter, National Post - source article here

In early September, I began noticing a string of news stories about scientists rejecting the orthodoxy on global warming. Actually, it was more like a string of guest columns and long letters to the editor since it is hard for skeptical scientists to get published in the cabal of climate journals now controlled by the Great Sanhedrin of the environmental movement.

Still, the number of climate change skeptics is growing rapidly. Because a funny thing is happening to global temperatures — they’re going down, not up.

On the same day (Sept. 5) that areas of southern Brazil were recording one of their latest winter snowfalls ever and entering what turned out to be their coldest September in a century, Brazilian meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart explained that extreme cold or snowfall events in his country have always been tied to “a negative PDO” or Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Positive PDOs — El Ninos — produce above-average temperatures in South America while negative ones — La Ninas — produce below average ones.

Dr. Hackbart also pointed out that periods of solar inactivity known as “solar minimums” magnify cold spells on his continent. So, given that August was the first month since 1913 in which no sunspot activity was recorded — none — and during which solar winds were at a 50-year low, he was not surprised that Brazilians were suffering (for them) a brutal cold snap. “This is no coincidence,” he said as he scoffed at the notion that manmade carbon emissions had more impact than the sun and oceans on global climate.

Also in September, American Craig Loehle, a scientist who conducts computer modelling on global climate change, confirmed his earlier findings that the so-called Medieval Warm Period (MWP) of about 1,000 years ago did in fact exist and was even warmer than 20th-century temperatures.

Prior to the past decade of climate hysteria and Kyoto hype, the MWP was a given in the scientific community. Several hundred studies of tree rings, lake and ocean floor sediment, ice cores and early written records of weather — even harvest totals and censuses –confirmed that the period from 800 AD to 1300 AD was unusually warm, particularly in Northern Europe.

But in order to prove the climate scaremongers’ claim that 20th-century warming had been dangerous and unprecedented — a result of human, not natural factors — the MWP had to be made to disappear. So studies such as Michael Mann’s “hockey stick,” in which there is no MWP and global temperatures rise gradually until they jump up in the industrial age, have been adopted by the UN as proof that recent climate change necessitates a reordering of human economies and societies.

Dr. Loehle’s work helps end this deception.

Don Easterbrook, a geologist at Western Washington University, says, “It’s practically a slam dunk that we are in for about 30 years of global cooling,” as the sun enters a particularly inactive phase. His examination of warming and cooling trends over the past four centuries shows an “almost exact correlation” between climate fluctuations and solar energy received on Earth, while showing almost “no correlation at all with CO2.”

An analytical chemist who works in spectroscopy and atmospheric sensing, Michael J. Myers of Hilton Head, S. C., declared, “Man-made global warming is junk science,” explaining that worldwide manmade CO2 emission each year “equals about 0.0168% of the atmosphere’s CO2 concentration … This results in a 0.00064% increase in the absorption of the sun’s radiation. This is an insignificantly small number.”

Other international scientists have called the manmade warming theory a “hoax,” a “fraud” and simply “not credible.”

While not stooping to such name-calling, weather-satellite scientists David Douglass of the University of Rochester and John Christy of the University of Alabama at Huntsville nonetheless dealt the True Believers a devastating blow last month.

For nearly 30 years, Professor Christy has been in charge of NASA’s eight weather satellites that take more than 300,000 temperature readings daily around the globe. In a paper co-written with Dr. Douglass, he concludes that while manmade emissions may be having a slight impact, “variations in global temperatures since 1978 … cannot be attributed to carbon dioxide.”

Moreover, while the chart below was not produced by Douglass and Christy, it was produced using their data and it clearly shows that in the past four years — the period corresponding to reduced solar activity — all of the rise in global temperatures since 1979 has disappeared.

It may be that more global warming doubters are surfacing because there just isn’t any global warming.
 

James M. (197)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 9:45 am
The concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has reached a record high, according to new figures that renew fears that climate change could begin to slide out of control.

Scientists at the Mauna Loa observatory in Hawaii say that CO2 levels in the atmosphere now stand at 387 parts per million (ppm), up almost 40% since the industrial revolution and the highest for at least the last 650,000 years.

The figures, published by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on its website, also confirm that carbon dioxide, the chief greenhouse gas, is accumulating in the atmosphere faster than expected. The annual mean growth rate for 2007 was 2.14ppm – the fourth year in the past six to see an annual rise greater than 2ppm. From 1970 to 2000, the concentration rose by about 1.5ppm each year, but since 2000 the annual rise has leapt to an average 2.1ppm.

Scientists say the shift could indicate that the Earth is losing its natural ability to soak up billions of tons of carbon each year. Climate models assume that about half our future emissions will be re-absorbed by forests and oceans, but the new figures confirm this may be too optimistic. If more of our carbon pollution stays in the atmosphere, it means emissions will have to be cut by more than currently projected to prevent dangerous levels of global warming.

Martin Parry, co-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's working group on impacts, said: "Despite all the talk, the situation is getting worse. Levels of greenhouse gases continue to rise in the atmosphere and the rate of that rise is accelerating. We are already seeing the impacts of climate change and the scale of those impacts will also accelerate, until we decide to do something about it."

· Martin Parry will be speaking at the Guardian Planning for Climate Adaptation conference on May 19

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/may/12/climatechange.carbonemissions?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews
 

Summer Daze (162)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 10:45 am
Had to go in search of this story Cate. LOL. The visit site link took me to the WP Subscription page! Good article. Noted with thanks!
 

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 12:14 pm
My, how mis-informed you all are. Not only do "greenhouse gases" have nothing to do with "climate change", but CO2 is only a minor constituent of GHGs. WATER VAPOUR is 95% of it

Martin Parry is one of the fakers-in-chief from the IPCC. Y

CO2: The Greatest Scientific
Scandal of Our Time
by Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.D., D.Sc., March 2007
Excerpt
"The notion of low pre-industrial CO2 atmospheric level, based on such poor knowledge, became a widely accepted Holy Grail of climate warming models. The modelers ignored the evidence from direct measurements of CO2 in atmospheric air indicating that in 19th century its average concentration was 335 ppmv[11] (Figure 2). In Figure 2 encircled values show a biased selection of data used to demonstrate that in 19th century atmosphere the CO2 level was 292 ppmv[12]. A study of stomatal frequency in fossil leaves from Holocene lake deposits in Denmark, showing that 9400 years ago CO2 atmospheric level was 333 ppmv, and 9600 years ago 348 ppmv, falsify the concept of stabilized and low CO2 air concentration until the advent of industrial revolution [13]. "

http://www.warwickhughes.com/icecore/



 

Chris Otahal (448)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 1:32 pm
Judy still trying to sell her same lies...she has seen all of this at least 30 times, but refues to recognise the facts of the matter...

No, there has been no cooling trend (climate) despites a cool period of 13 months (weather). Five independently derived temprature data sets show a WARMING TREND since 1979 - including the "impecable" satelit data (according to Judy):

http://www.climate4you.com/images/AllCompared%20GlobalMonthlyTempSince1979.gif

also see this discussion:

Global cooling in 2007 - has global warming ended?

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling-january-2007-to-january-2008.htm

as for water vapor, please read this material:

CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11652

Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas

http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm
 

Chris Otahal (448)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 1:35 pm
As to cooler weather causing more disease and warmer weather not causing disease - you simply made that up yourself with no evidence LMAO!!!!

The article here showes that real scientists - as opposed to Judy the denialist - conclude that warmer weather does indeed cause more disease...
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 1:45 pm
thank you we had animal and human not far from my home again this year ,west nile is very real and scary
 

Ken S. (41)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 4:15 pm
In our region in Australia, we have been in drought for about 12 years,hopefully this is at an end... most of our water reservoirs have been perilously low,we have been severely rationed on water usage, our regular rain has not been arriving on time , or not at all.,and this has been the longest and coolest winter we have had in about 20 years...I think we are missing out on our "global warming" here......we want the rain....we could do with some global warming....lol..
Mind you, man needs to respect our planet, stop polluting,exploiting, raping and pillaging the fragile ecosystem of our environment.......ie stop cra**ing in our own nest....
I do not disregard the global warming issue entirely, but again I think we have a much more urgent issue about exploitation, both of our environment and our peoples. The North pole, has in recorded history, melted a couple of times before the industrial age.....there are reports of sailing ships sailing around the North pole...and the South pole apparently has increased levels of ice......it would be good if the combatitive aspect of science (or junk science and the urgers who use this for their own political agendas) could be eliminated, and we could get to the truth......There appears to be aspects on both sides of global warming that rings true, but I do not believe either camp have all the answers...the emotional component of this issue cannot be eliminated, but we do need honest reasoned research and debate....
 

Louise L. (48)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 4:48 pm
No doubt about it, bacteria is fond of warmer temperatures, like 98.6! It's going to be really bad when the outside temperatures are the same as our inner temperatures....and, of course, my house will be under water from the melting ice and rising seas! Looking forward.....thanks, Ombretta.
 

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 5:42 pm
I was talking about prolonged cold weather's effect on weakening the homeless where TB is already a problem.

It really doesn't matter, because the warming stopped 10 years ago and it never got as warm as it was before 1940 anyway.

For those who would like to see a sane discussion of the topic, I recommend:
http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html


Pretty soon it will become very apparent on your heating bills.
 

Chris Otahal (448)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 7:37 pm
Skeptic Arguments

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php

and

Climate change: A guide for the perplexed

http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/dn11462

 

Chris Otahal (448)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 7:40 pm
Both of the above sources are a must read if you really wish to know the fact of the matter - both the 10 year cooling and it was warmer in 1940 is pure bull :)
 

Chris Otahal (448)
Tuesday October 21, 2008, 7:42 pm
Now getting back to the actual topic of the article, one should do a search on "climate change disease spread" and look at all the resources showing that warming indeed allows for the spread of disease...
 

CHRISTIAN RYAN (13)
Wednesday October 22, 2008, 1:18 am
I would have to read more but I know the damn Chem Trails have a lot to do with the temp underneath for those that dont know what your govt is doing read up on Chem Trails just goggle it or go www.harp.com chris
 

Cynthia Davis (233)
Wednesday October 22, 2008, 8:32 am
Judy Cross, You need to go talk to the Eskimos about the known fact that the polar Ice caps are melting. I think they would tell you that there is definitely something going on. What would make the polar ice cap melt, Let me see ahhh maybe glogal warming. There will always be skeptics on every subject. But the majority of scientists believe global warming is real based on the scientific evidence.
 

ROBIN M. (312)
Thursday October 23, 2008, 11:39 am
MOIST WARM WEATHER ALSO INCREASE FUNGI GROWTH WHICH WILL LEAD TO FUNAL INFECTIONS ON THE SKIN, AND ONCE YOU HAVE CONTACT WITH THIS IT IS HARD TO GET RID OF. WARMER WEATHER DOES INCREASE ILLNESSES IN MANY WAYS.
 

Edward Craig (2)
Thursday October 23, 2008, 8:26 pm
It's wonderful. We've succeeded in increasing our lifespan by lowering our death rate so well we now have a population well in excess of 6,000,000,000.
We now get to experience "Limits of Growth" in an all too concrete fashion on a finite world.
There is no reason to expect we can survive the coming population crash.
Perhaps some of us can luck through.
 

Greenpeace USA (51)
Friday October 24, 2008, 11:24 am
This is undoubtedly frightening. It would be interesting to do research on the after-affects on Hurricane Katrina victims' health considering this motif of raining and flooding--one of the most popularly used images from the disaster is a man swimming through oil-slicked mucky water trying to gather his belongings. The statistics of diseases/health issues afterwards must be staggering!
 

Bella S. (31)
Saturday October 25, 2008, 11:04 am
We live in Nebraska and because of the high amounts of blue algae in the water, have not been able to swim in many of the lakes for a few years now. No fishing, swimming, or any activity where you could potentially drink the water. People are getting sick with rashes, vomiting, and it has gotten to the point that whenever we go camping, I have to read up on the samples of that particular lake to decide what we can and can not do.

http://nebraska.statepaper.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/05/05/4279be58a016f
 
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