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A Conservative Catholic Plea for the Elephants

Animals  (tags: wildlife, elephants, suffering, humans )

- 1826 days ago -
Matthew Scully writes about animals. He's done it again with a remarkable article in The Atlantic about the "global industry that's slaughtering Africa's elephants." And although he avoids one critical piece of the issuethe article is no less a must-read.

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Christeen A (371)
Friday June 21, 2013, 10:33 am
I enjoyed the reading. Thanks for sharing.

Ruth C (87)
Friday June 21, 2013, 11:07 am
Its a good read!

Gabriela Baldaia (104)
Friday June 21, 2013, 2:51 pm
Thank you for sharing such an emotive reading !

Isa Villanen (44)
Friday June 21, 2013, 2:56 pm
Thanks, Jill, again! Good reading!
We need blow horns like Matthew Scully. But I think his estimation of the total elephant population is too big. Thre are already areas where no elephant does walk. In your other piece of news it said that 35,000 elephants have been killed by poachers from the beginning of 2013. And as the killing rate is growing, the real numbers of walking elephants are lower, I think. The sheer size of the number is horrible, all lives wasted for nothing. At least in any governments pocket.
It is no surprise that elephants have their own strategies, they are intelligent, and they have extremely good memory - hence the saying elephants do remember.
I got the urge to read Scully's book, and I must do so, and I probably go to the library nest week. I take my hat off for the man!

Ellen m (215)
Friday June 21, 2013, 9:10 pm
Thanks...a good article.
I especially liked his comment in reference to the Safari Club - (Note to the IRS: Forget the Tea Party groups and have a look at these people.)

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Ellen m (215)
Friday June 21, 2013, 9:40 pm
IA bit off topic, but I wanted to check on Safari Club, as I know they are international...(the US chapters post all sorts of photos and openly talk about killing)..and while they would only give big game hunting prices and info via skype or email, looking at the sidebar of one of their partner club "tags" says it all, and it sure isn't conservation oriented :-(
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Danuta Watola (1250)
Saturday June 22, 2013, 6:21 am

Barry AWAY T (935)
Saturday June 22, 2013, 8:14 am
There is a simple test, a litmus test if you will, for prominent Roman Catholics speaking out about "endandered species", about poverty or peace or womens issues or "the environment" or the threats to original communities ("aboriginals"),. the destruction of the natural world ... and it is this:

If the Roman Catholic church is not so threatened by your behavior as to retaliate with threats of ex-communication and worse :) then you have not arrived at the correct position on the moral and natural compass.

The only exception to this that i know of was Father Thomas Berry and I am not sure how he escaped that fate ... (or even if he really did)

Barbara Aubrey (1)
Saturday June 22, 2013, 9:31 am

Barry AWAY T (935)
Sunday June 23, 2013, 9:20 am
Someone below said "We need more blow horns like Matthew Scully ..."

Actually, we don't.

What we need are people who get it, who get the interconnected nature of the world and the interconnected nature of ALL the problems we face ... people who understand that exploitation of women and children and adults ("workers") are all inter-related to the exploitation of animals and other living things including resource exploitation and to the problems of poverty and peace and animal / species extinction and environmental destruction (aka the destruction of the natural world) and on and on ... these are all the same problem.
And the root of the problem is how we view the world … and the idea that one can isolate this one thing they care about – elephants and / or species extinction or whatever … but I stand on the wrong side, the other side of every other important issue … I stand with Sarah Palin and George W Bush and Paul Ryan on ALL OTHER ISSUES …stupidity and ignorance … dangerous stupidity and ignorance when we give this idiot any credibility at all

So if you're a conservative Roman Catholic (who has been a speech-writer for George W Bush. Sarah Palin and most recently Paul Ryan!!), the idea that you get anything at all about ANY of the problems we face, is beyond laughable, beyond reprehensible ... because all this does is dilute the understanding of the real issue(s).

This guy is NOT a friend of the animal world, the natural world because his friends and allies are ALL enemies of the animal world, the natural world.

So if he really wants to see a change, he needs to do some studying and some research (he could start by reading "The Dream of the Earth" by Father Thomas Berry, until his death a fellow Roman Catholic ... and he could accelerate it by calling out his friends (Bush, Palin and Ryan) publicly for what they are - enemies of the natural world, people whose views, beliefs and actions are directly related to the destruction which he claims concerns him.


Barry AWAY T (935)
Sunday June 23, 2013, 9:34 am
And just one more thing ... one of the paths that has led us to the edge of the cliff where we now stand is a reluctance to "call a spade a spade", to speak the truth regardless of the cost ... because it is the truth. And if it hurts people's feelings (people like Matthew Scully) to hear that truth, so be it.

We are not going to get through any of this by pretending that someone is an ally when they are demonstrably an enemy of the natural world (based not on their words but on their actions, based on their associations and affiliations).

We must reject wolves in sheeps clothing ... reject them, call them out, send them home to complete their homework before they presume that they can be spokespersons for issues they do NOT fully understand.

Leslene Dunn (84)
Monday June 24, 2013, 12:51 am
Noted .

Sara P (54)
Wednesday June 26, 2013, 7:24 am
Thanks for sharing Jill.

Mandy H (32)
Wednesday June 26, 2013, 9:59 am
Noted but honestly I find it difficult to support anyone who supports a Church that covers up child rape as has been seen in the Aussie news recently it goes all the way up the line.

Merike Lillenberg (52)
Monday July 8, 2013, 11:32 am
Noted, thank you!
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