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Kucinich Circulating Letter to Colleagues Regarding Mavi Marmara Incident

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Kucinich, Israel, Obama, Gaza, Mavi_Marmara )

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"In its violent commando raid on the Mavi Marmara, the government of Israel showed no concern as to how its conduct may affect the lives of defenseless, innocent people, its friends and allies, and in particular the United States."

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Edwin M (346)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:24 am
Thank You "C"

Dave C (867)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:25 am
"No one questions the right of Israel to defend its border, but that defense does not extend to shooting innocent civilians anywhere in the world, anytime it pleases. . ."
. . . Congressman Dennis Kucinich

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:28 am

Ya GOTTA love this man! He never fails to step up to the plate and do what's right!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:45 am

Text of Congressman Kucinich's letter:

The Honorable Barack Obama

President of the United States

The White House

Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President,

Israeli commandos, acting at the direction of the State of Israel, attacked and seized a Turkish ship in international waters, in the Mediterranean Sea.

At least nine were killed in the incident aboard the Mavi Marmara. Hundreds of civilians were taken into custody and goods were confiscated. Since the United States considers Israel our most important ally in the region, whose survival is a of primary concern, it is incumbent upon the Commander in Chief to call Israel to an accounting for its conduct in planning and executing the deadly military attack in international waters upon a peaceful flotilla carrying citizens from over 50 countries.

The State of Israel's conduct, attacking a Turkish ship in international waters, constitutes an act of belligerence against Turkey, which at one time Israel considered an important ally. It also undermines United States’ troops efforts in Iraq, since your administration's efforts to achieve stability in the region and to withdraw troops from Iraq has depended upon Turkey's cooperation through use of its air bases.

In its violent commando raid on the Mavi Marmara, the government of Israel showed no concern as to how its conduct may affect the lives of defenseless, innocent people, its friends and allies, and in particular the United States. The United States must remind Israel as well as all of our other friends and allies:

It is not acceptable to repeatedly violate international law.

It is not acceptable to shoot and kill innocent civilians.

It is not acceptable to commit an act of aggression against another U.S. ally.

It is not acceptable to continue a blockade which denies humanitarian relief.

It is not acceptable to heighten tensions in a region while the United States continues to put so much blood and treasure on the line.

The State of Israel's action necessitates that the United States, which is Israel's partner in the region, begin to redefine its relationship and to establish such boundaries and conditions which are sufficient for mutual respect and cooperation.

It is incumbent upon Israeli officials to bring forth the truth about the planning for and the attack upon the Mavi Marmara.

No one questions the right of Israel to defend its border, but that defense does not extend to shooting innocent civilians anywhere in the world, anytime it pleases.

Israel must account for our support, for the lives of our soldiers, for the investment of billions from our taxpayers. Israel owes the United States more than reckless, pre-meditated violence waged against innocent people.

The attack on the Mavi Marmara requires consequences for the Netanyahu Administration and for the State of Israel. Those consequences must be dealt by the United States. They must be diplomatic and they must be financial. The U.S. can begin by calling for an independent international inquiry of the Mavi Marmara incident. The integrity of such inquiry necessitates that it not be led by the nation whose conduct is under scrutiny. If our nation fails to act in any substantive way, the United States licenses the violence and we are complicit in it and our own citizens will be forced to pay the consequences.

We the undersigned deeply regret the loss of life. We are also fully aware of the dangers to world security which exist in the region, which is why the United States has been unstinting it its defense of Israel. We have a right to expect that Israel not add to those dangers with military conduct which all people of good will know is neither defensible nor moral. There must be consequences for such conduct. We await your response.


[Dennis Kucinich]


Mack David (100)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:59 am
I had no idea of this man..................

Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (209)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:09 am
On our trip back from New York last week end I made it a point to spend the night in his district and support local businesses there. It's hard to feel good about any politician these days, Dennis Kucinich is one of the exceptions. As with all politicians, I don't agree on every issue, but I have no doubt of his integrity and courage.

Yvonne Mendes Siblini (218)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:10 am
It just sounds like a world war on the brink... there is no way Obama can possibly denounce what has happened with Flotilla.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:14 am

Andy (Locan),

As anyone who knows me can verify, I have few politicians I trust implicitly . . . as you stated, "Dennis Kucinich is one of the exceptions."

Marion Y (322)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:18 am
Kucinich is a courageous humanitarian among those weasels in government. Thanks, Carole!

Jelica R (144)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:18 am


Cher C (1429)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:19 am

Thnx hun!


David S (55)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:19 am
Our nation had drafted a statement about this also.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:51 am

Yes, David. In particular, I was overjoyed by Michael D. Higgins':

Michael D Higgins TD speaking on the Dáil motion about Interception of Gaza humanitarian Flotilla

Patricia Herrick (54)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:00 am
Always a true American HERO! The only person in DC that I totally trust to always do the right thing. Thanks for this Carole.

Lynn M (192)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:26 am
Thanks for the post!

IE Ries (237)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:31 am
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week.

DAMMIT! lol ;)

The difference between Rep Kucinich and other politicians is that while others may *think* these thoughts, he vocalizes them with surety, honesty, and integrity. Someone who asks why we have a department of war but not a department of peace has clearly seen the larger picture and is far past all the coalition nonsense to simply call a spade a spade and *mean it* too. I respect that.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:35 am

WOW, Eva . . . You said it better than even *I* could!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:38 am

(BUT -- I am NOT giving you my "Kucinich No. 1 Fan" crown . . . got it???)


Blacktiger P (247)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:39 am
Strong, reasonable, and to the point. It is said one person can start a change, but that one person now needs back up. Thx *C*

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 11:46 am

True, Margo (Blacktiger).

That said, though, I want to point out the importance of differentiating between the "government of Israel" (the proper terminology in this instance) and using broad-sweeping terms to describe their actions in all-inclusive terms, such as "Jews," "Israelis," etc.

I know that I've probably been guilty of doing so myself, but in hindsight, I realize that I would have been insulted by being included in the term "Americans" when referring to the many wrongful acts of the Bush administration (and even some of the present one).

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:05 pm
The Legal Framework of International Law
The Attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla by Israeli Navy Commandos on May 31, 2010
Crimes against the Peace and Crimes against Humanity
By Lynda Bray
During the pre-dawn hours of May 31, 2010, the Israeli Navy attacked the six civilian vessels of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla.  The attack took place in international waters against ships flying under national flags of countries with which Israel is not at war, namely Turkey, Greece and the United States.  The ships were carrying civilians from more than sixteen countries.
Salient points:
Since no state of war existed at the time, the attack on these vessels constitutes an act of war against those governments under whose flags the vessels were sailing.
The attack falls within the purview of the ius ad bellum, those laws which govern the resort to armed conflict.  Israel’s action does not fall into the category of the ius in bello or the laws which govern the actual conduct of war.
Because this attack was carried out in international waters, the status of the relationship between Hamas, or any other Palestinian body, and the state of Israel is of no relevance whatsoever.  Likewise, neither the blockade of Gaza nor Israel’s claims and legal interpretations regarding it has any bearing on its acts of aggression in international waters.
This is not an act of piracy.  Piracy is an act of aggression carried out in international waters by individuals and not by states.
The following internationally binding treaties, charters, and agreements are relevant to the attack by Israel:
1. Article 6 of the Charter Provisions of the Nuremburg Trials
(a) Crimes against Peace: namely, planning, preparation, initiation, or waging of a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances, or participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the foregoing;
(b) Crimes against Humanity:  namely murder…deportation, and any other inhumane acts committed against any civilian population, before or during the execution of or in connection with any crime…whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated.
2. 1907 Hague Regulation Convention (XI) Relative to Certain Restrictions with Regard to the Exercise of the Right of Capture in Naval War
Chapter II – The Exemption from Capture of Certain Vessels
Article 4.  Vessels charged with religious, scientific, or philanthropic missions are likewise exempt from capture.
Salient points:
The standard for judging the Israeli acts is objective and not subjective. It is irrelevant what Israeli ministers, generals, admirals, or soldiers thought or intended.  The test is in what they did.
What they did was engage in acts of war using weapons of war in international waters against vessels that are protected not only in peacetime but also in times of war.
Israel has therefore committed both crimes against the peace and crimes against humanity.
These are crimes that have international jurisdiction.  Israeli political and military personnel can be named in trials held in any and all countries of the world.  If the Israelis do not attend the trials, they can be tried in abstentia, and those decisions in which the Israelis are found guilty can be executed anywhere in the world.
Because unarmed civilians were murdered by a preplanned military attack, capital crimes have been committed.  While it would appear that the international community no longer finds capital punishment civilized, the punishments for these capital crimes can be multiple life sentences.
These crimes give rise to damage claims for huge sums of money and Israeli accounts can be blocked using decisions finding them guilty.
The unarmed vessels were on a philanthropic mission, carrying civilians and humanitarian supplies.  Even if Israel were in a state of war with any of these countries, it would be prohibited from capturing the vessels according to the terms of the Hague Convention of 1907.
It follows, therefore, that Israel was first of all not allowed to attack these vessels militarily, and then not to board these vessels by force, capture these vessels, attack the passengers, imprison them on the vessels, forcibly remove them from the vessels, and steal their private property in the form of cameras, computers, clothes, etc.
Every single act carried out by the Israeli military forces in international waters no May 31, 2010, are unqualifiedly and absolutely violations of international law.
Lynda Brayer is an Israeli human rights lawyer who specialized in the laws of war and international law in representing Palestinians.  She is a graduate of the Hebrew University Faculty of Law and lives in Haifa.   She can be reached at
Appendix: The Gaza Freedom Flotilla included six vessels on May 31, 2010 1. Mavi Marmara, passenger boat, Turkey 2. Sofia, cargo ship, Greece 3. Gaza I, cargo ship, Turkey 4. Gaza II, cargo ship, Turkey 5. Spendoni,  passenger ship, Greece
6. Challenger I, passenger ship, United States
At least nine passengers were killed, eight Turkish citizens and one U.S. citizen, Furkan Dogan, 19. The majority of the passengers aboard the ships were Turkish citizens.  There were also nationals from Britain, Australia, Greece, Canada, Malaysia, Algeria, Serbia, Belgium, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Kuwait and the United States.
Three German parliamentarians were aboard the Turkish boat that was stormed. There were also two Palestinian Members of the Knesset.  Swedish author Henning Mankell was also on board the flotilla.
Despite Israeli spin-doctors, and Israel firsters in the United States, it’s clear that Israel has broken international laws. Contact your government to call for an independent international investigation of Israel’s attack on the flotilla, an end to the Gaza blockade, and an immediate halt to U.S. aid to Israel.
Phone the White House: 202-456-1414 or 202-456-1111. Or contact President Barack Obama by e-mail
Phone the U.S. State Department Public Information Line: 202-647-6575 ext 1
Contact your members of Congress:
Contact your local newspapers, radio stations, religious leaders… everyone you know. Click here to subscribe to the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

Vivien Green (153)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:15 pm
noted Thank you

Nichole L (69)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:46 pm
Thank you, Carole!

Brigitte T (69)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 12:47 pm
Thank you Carol!

IE Ries (237)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 1:43 pm

Agree with Blacktiger and Carole - all our elected "leaders" (a-hem!) need to know that Rep Kucinich is asking the hard questions we want to ask, as citizens, and for which we now demand answers. The USA cannot continue to afford defending, supporting (with money and weapons) a regime that sreams "victim!" while persecuting, subjegating and killing others in their midst. This is damaging for all, and it's just a matter of fairness.

Did it not occur to anyone in the American "leadership" that the USA, as an ally-friend of Israel (even though they covertly spy on us and our military), we have an obligation to tell that friend when they commit a grave and egregious error and wrong?

H Nick H (1826)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 1:43 pm
I do believe in their right to protect their country, but this went too far. The truth needs to come out, so we all know.

Yvonne White (229)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 1:52 pm
Kucinich is the IDEAL Democrat! He's what all other Democrats should aspire to be!:)

Darlene Therrien (161)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 1:54 pm

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 2:48 pm
Thanks Carole, Rep Kucinich's letter to POTUS is powerful. I will use this too.


IE Ries (237)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 3:12 pm
Nick, EVERY country has that right, my friend. Every country. But the Israelis have always taken that out of context by persecuted and subjegating people which actually has resulted in more tension and problems. If any OTHER government did this, you can be sure there would be charges filed at the Hague, boycotts, embargos, sanctions. Oh, but not Israel. Never them. They always was the flag of past victimhood that implies a free pass to do anything one sees fit. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, and the fact they will not see this is rather hypocritical, don't you think?

Patricia C (96)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 3:33 pm
I do like this man, and thank you for sharing the info Carole. (and Ben for forwarding)

Lynn Christy (64)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 3:46 pm
noted,thanks, *C*

Pat B (356)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 4:04 pm
TY, Carole for this.

Thursday June 3, 2010, 5:46 pm
If he was Canadian, he could be our Prime Minister, hopefully the one we have is on his way out (and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Prime Minister Harper). This is who should have been the Democratic candidate for the Presidency.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 5:56 pm
Global Day to Break Israeli Siege!
In response to and commemoration of the barbaric attack on the Freedom Flotilla earlier this week, the BDS National Committee is launching the Global Day to Break the Israeli Siege as an international day of action and protest in front of Israeli embassies and consulates around the world.
Please help us mark Saturday the 5th of June as the Global Day to Break the Israeli Siege by organizing protests on this day in your city in front of Israeli consulates and corporations and institutions tied to Apartheid Israel around the world. This call is not only to protest Israel's barbaric attacks but also to cut all diplomatic ties, whether economic, political, acadamic or cultural, until Israel abides fully with international law and stops it's crimes against all humanity.
We want this to be an internationally coordinated movement and therefore ask you to register your event on our website. Events are already scheduled in cities across the globe, including London, Toronto, San Francisco, and Barcelona!
We stand today at an urgent and critical point in our global quest for justice and human rights. The brutal attack on activists aboard the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, resulting in at least 19 deaths and tens of injuries, proves that Israel indiscriminately targets human rights advocates of all nationalities. We must not allow this massacre to pass quietly!
Please forward this call to all human rights activists and civil society groups and ask them to endorse it.

sue M (184)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 6:12 pm
Yeah Dennis. He's my man!

I would like to see us stop paying for others to kill and harm others and the US wars ncluded. The US has done nothing but keep this war alive. When people run out of guns the war stops one way or another. All that money gone to defense could have been well spent here at home when we already had more ammo than any other country x 10 now it must be close to x 100 by now if not more.

Barbara D (70)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 7:38 pm
Good on Dennis! Thanks, C, for posting! Now if we could only get the rest of Congress on board...

Magdalena M (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:16 pm
I bet, Obama will pretend that nothing happened. He cannot deal with things.

Magdalena M (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:17 pm
We know the truth about other nasty things which happened also. Did he do anything? He just promised a lot.
Promises, promises......

Janet Solomon (231)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 9:46 pm
I don't think ANYONE can say definitively what they would do if they were elected President.

There are so many unseen forces that we have NO idea what really goes on. And I suspect that's why Ted Kennedy NEVER took a run at it---he could get so much more accomplished in the Senate.
It's just a whole DIFFERENT job than 'serving the American People'...
I don't think ANYONE is prepared for the pressures....
Thank you,'s so GREAT that there are still men like Dennis Kucinich & Ron Paul around.
Namaste! xo

. (0)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:01 pm
Why should Israel let Marmara carrying unknown cargo sent by terrorists of IHH to terrorists of Hamas to go unchecked? That would be stupid. Israel was acting in its full rights, and shame on Erdogan and Turkey who organized that provocation.


IE Ries (237)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:19 pm

Mark, the cargo was examined in Isreal's port. There are no reports of weapons or materials for weapons.

And terrorists? I take umbrage to your classification of unarmed civilians who were pounced upon by commandos clearly on a military maneuver. The Israelis attacked first, and they shot and killed UNARMED people. Get that FACT through your head. They injured people severaly, including American Emily Henochowicz when she lost an eye to the encounter. Her "crime?" Being on an aid vessel and within an Israeli soldier's reach, apparently.

And lastly but most importantly:

Avital Leibovich, an Israeli military spokeswoman, confirmed that the attack took place in international waters, saying: "This happened in waters outside of Israeli territory, but we have the right to defend ourselves."

This was an illegal act outside national waters - this means premediated MURDER of unarmed, non-threatening civilians. Turkey had been one of Israel's best and friendlies Arab/Muslim allies, but this has alientated them, with good reason. How *dare* you minimize the loss of Turkish lives and criticize the outrage the Turkish Prime Minister rightfully expressed!

I trust we are on the same page now?

Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (209)
Thursday June 3, 2010, 10:24 pm
Israel owns the entire planet's oceans now? What is stupid is the arrogance that it's just fine to pick and choose what applies to Israel and doesn't count for anyone else. Neighbors and friends have been calling me nonstop for two days apologizing for not listening before and asking what they can do to help.

Good bye troll, don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

Dave C (867)
Friday June 4, 2010, 12:02 am
“Mad Dog” Diplomacy: A Cornered Israel is Baring its Teeth, by Jonathan Cook 4:47 PM

Jonathan Cook argues that Israel is responding to growing domestic scrutiny of its human rights abuses and increasing international isolation, and to the erosion of its deterrence, by introducing new repressive laws and by branding its critics as supporters of terrorism. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ “Israeli human rights activists … are presenting clear-eyed – and extremely ugly – assessments of the occupation that are grabbing headlines around the world.” ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ “Regionally, Hizbullah has progressively eroded Israel’s deterrence doctrine… Iran, too, has refused to be intimidated… And internationally, nearly 18 months on from its attack on Gaza, Israel’s standing is at an all-time low.” ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ “Israel’s supporters have characterized the Goldstone report and the related legal campaigns against Israel as examples of ‘lawfare’, implying that those who uphold international law are waging a new kind of war of attrition on behalf of terror groups like Hamas and Hizbullah.” ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Eric Straatsma (3802)
Friday June 4, 2010, 1:06 am
Hmmmm, I wonder if they are learning something from us?

We have recently been flying over other sovereign nations, sometimes without their permission, and 'assassinating' people that we deem worthy of rubbing out... No permission needed... We just say we need to to do it... and then go and do it... Who cares that there is no trial, no jury, no police, no law, no justice, no nothing... The justification.. They are all worth rubbing out.... in someones eyes...OURS.

I wonder how long before those eyes and bombs in the sky start flying overhead here.. from other countries, who think there are people here worth rubbing out in THEIR eyes.

There is more than one side to this cup we call reality..


Eric Straatsma (3802)
Friday June 4, 2010, 1:08 am
It is sad that in this great country, Kucinich only got 2 or 3 percent of the vote...

Carole S. (0)
Friday June 4, 2010, 4:04 am
Kucinich i s also involved with The Peace Alliance. Check it out, everyone!!

Agnes H (144)
Friday June 4, 2010, 5:42 am
I think you have a man there worthy of being a future President I believe, eventhough I don't know him this letter to the president tells it all. Does anyone know what happened to the 3 German Parlementarians on board the Passenger ship that got boarded by the commandoes? I would love to know about that!

If anything happens to them then there certainly might be a war on hand between Germany and Israel at least. So in my thinking Obama had better act fast and very fast!!!!! I'd hate to see Germany at war again and with the same people Hitler hated so much, and I don't think he was the only one, as you will understand as even amongst the Jewish people there are good and bad and I believe the Israeli Government is certainly run by bad Jews at the moment, who've forgot how they were treated during WWII?

Like I've said before attacking a ship in Open Waters is an act of Piracy, but as this was being done by Israeli Commandoes I would see it as an act of war towards the countries the Flotilla belonged to especially the passenger ships. As one of them was American Israel has just comitted an act of war against it's very best allie.

Were America to take action against this it's Government is bound to ask for help and whose help would that be? First of all it would be Turkey and Greece as they had the other 2 passenger ships and then it would almost certainly be The UK and us, Australia, as per usual. But you can be guaranteed that the Australian people would fight against that as hard as possible. We don't want our boys being put in danger once again, just because America wishes to take action.

I believe the action that should be taken is what's been mentioned earlier on, take the perpetrators to the International court and let them rot in prison!!! In sollitary confinement if possible!

Agnes H (144)
Friday June 4, 2010, 5:52 am
I tried to give several people like Carole and Dave a star but can't do it yet!!!! Sorry people!

Maurene T (122)
Friday June 4, 2010, 6:00 am
I "heart" Kucinich. There are a few in congress who always speak up despite the popularity of the subject.
I would add Bernie Sanders and Alan Grayson my list of people in congress who are not swayed by conventional wisdoms, but speak out for what they believe is right and just.
Go Dennis!!!
TY for this post.

Jon Stewart (37)
Friday June 4, 2010, 7:19 am
Having "worked the polls" many times as an observer, I see first hand the low turnout in most of our elections. I also know that while elected officials do not know HOW individuals vote, they can see WHETHER they vote, and how frequently. Logically, we can assume that a candidate for election or re-election, whose constituency makes their feelings know by signing petitions, calling their office, or by writing, can, without too much effort beyond establishing the appropriate database, determine the importance of the opinion expressed by that voter in the candidates' quest to win an election by seeing how regularly that person actually votes. Anyone submitting an email to their elected officials no doubt has observed that certain information about them… full name and zip code, in particular, is required to submit the email. This is proof positive that those officials are concerned with the relevance of that person’s opinion to their office, and have little to no concern with the opinions of those who cannot, or historically DO NOT vote in their district(s).
Bottom line: VOTE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, whether the election is for a local school committee seat, a "special" election to fill a single empty seat, or in a "hot" race. You don't even have to actually mark the ballot. Casting an empty ballot STILL lets politicians know that you make the effort to go to the polls, and that an expression of your opinion in a letter or your signature on a petition carries weight.

Jon Stewart (37)
Friday June 4, 2010, 7:35 am
I wish people would stop drawing parallels between israel's blockade of Gaza and the blockade of Cuba by the US during the "missle crisis". Though, at the time, the US admittedly DID threatened military action, it was a posturing, and the Soviets blinked, rendering any conjectures about whether any military action would have been taken moot.
Secondly, US claims that the Soviet ships were actually carrying nuclear missles was documented by reconnaisance photos made widely available to the world. As was evidence that Soviet missle installations were already in place in Cuba.
The moral high ground we had in the eyes of the world, coupled with irrefutable evidence of hostile actions and diplomatic pressure, was what prevented the threat to US from escalating... NOT actual military intervention.
Thirdly, the US embargo of Cuba since then has been unilateral, and does not even pretend to prevent the free flow of goods and people between countries other than between the US and Cuba. While BOTH side of the US/Cuba stalemate make it extremely difficult for their own citizens to travel back and forth between them, it is NOT impossible.

Steve Howard (45)
Friday June 4, 2010, 11:09 am

The fact that it endangers the US should be enough for the average person who doesn't care about innocent aids activists or the Palestinian people.

People around the whole WORLD equate Israels actions with the United States (and rightly so because we give and sell them arms and machinery to do their dirty work and we always vote in their interest and veto anything they want us to in the UN) and that means we have made MORE enemies.

So, if for no other reason we have to condemn their actions, stop weapons sales to them, stop monetary support for them and treat Israel as we would any other nation.

What do you think Obama would do if Iran or North Korea did exactly the same thing that Israel did?


Arielle S (313)
Friday June 4, 2010, 11:42 am
We need about 200 more like Kucinich in Washington - thanks, Carole!

Kait G (25)
Friday June 4, 2010, 12:49 pm
I believe that this letter was beautifully drafted, and whoever came up with it, be it another or Congressman Dennis Kucinich, should have it applauded along with the clear point made with it.

I had no idea about this man, dispite having taken business and contemporary issue classes in which we studied our government. I feel rather disappinted now, knowing that had neglected to notice someone like him.
What sector is he in, does anyone know?

I don't know what I would do in Obama's shoes, which is perhaps why all men of power -- well, intellegent men of power -- have had advisers to conference with in any situation that he feels he cannot make a solid decision on his own about. Which in my opinion should be every situation. However, it would make one think that perhaps it is not president who is running our conuntry, but those around him are...There are many things I could say on that subject, but lets wrap this up. :)

C, I thank you for sending me this, I was delighted to have the chance to read it. I look forward to seeing how this plays out in the soon coming future; hopefully not on the scale of an outbroken war of senseless proportions I must add.

chris b (2474)
Friday June 4, 2010, 1:47 pm
You are so right Arielle and while you are about can you spare a few hundred for the UK Parliament! Honest hard working politicians not frightened of speaking up on contentious issues! Well done that man!

Laura H (964)
Friday June 4, 2010, 1:53 pm
Dennis is my Rep.and I know what a good, hard working man he is! He REALLY cares about people, animals (he's vegan:) ) and the environment!!! I have met him a few times and he is very down to earth...a GREAT man!

Connor Hocking (29)
Friday June 4, 2010, 3:12 pm
good move there Israel. you seem very justified in stopping humanitarian relief to Gaza. that will definitely help your situation

Anne K (139)
Friday June 4, 2010, 5:58 pm
Thanks for posting, Just Carole! How many number 1 fans can Dennis Kucinich have? When I took the test prior to what became the Bush/Kerry election, I matched 100% with Kucinich. Also, I can truly respect him because he is a vegan. He is a bonafide compassionate, empathetic humanitarian.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday June 4, 2010, 5:59 pm

Doesn't matter, Anne -- *I* have the CROWN! (hehehehehe)

Thanks, sweetie!

Aletta Kraan (146)
Friday June 4, 2010, 7:11 pm
Hurray for Denis Kucinich !!!! Thanks .

Antony Stone (7)
Friday June 4, 2010, 8:18 pm
Those soldiers who did the shooting should be jailed just like any other criminal.

Steve Howard (45)
Friday June 4, 2010, 10:25 pm

There is another aid vessel just miles from the blockade. I just posted a news item about it and it's titled:

Gaza-bound aid vessel tailed by Israeli warships

Plus, We HAVE to work at getting the FACTS of what has been going on for years, this is vital. There are many more stories on here other than this one about this and the Israeli attack upon the aid vessel, please look them up by searching "Israel" and or "Gaza" and or "Palestine" in the news stories and note them, this needs to get out to as many people as possible.

And get VOCAL, write newspapers, call tv stations, write, call, email and fax the White House, this needs to get out to everyone in the world so even though it is in some press make sure you contact as many as you can and send some FACTS that they never tell about Israel and our support of what they are and have been doing..

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Dave C (867)
Saturday June 5, 2010, 12:59 am
Cynthia McKinney: AIPAC Controls America:

Ian MacLeod (79)
Saturday June 5, 2010, 3:13 am
This is the man I would have voted for in the last presidential election if the MSM had not culled him from the group of viable candidates. I love how he write it so as to point out that everything the letter chastises Israel for is something that the U.S. is and has been doing itself. That was VERY well done!


Vilislav I. (8)
Saturday June 5, 2010, 4:02 am
Thank you

Bracha Katz (31)
Sunday June 6, 2010, 8:53 am
It is not acceptable to shoot and kill innocent civilians
innocent civilians? with knives and and metal rods. who are on a boat supported by the IHH, an organization that danish, french, and even turkish researchers discovered has ties to al-qaida. they also have ties to hamas, a terrorist organization israel's enemy.

It is not acceptable to continue a blockade which denies humanitarian relief.
israel lets in tons of humanatarian aid, food and medicine. and israel and egypt offered to take the aid in. the aid is actually being taken to gaza by israel, it could have been done without all the violence.

i also regret the loss of human life, i wish these activists would not have provoked it.

Patricia Herrick (54)
Sunday June 6, 2010, 9:26 am
C'mon Tara~~~"provoked it"???? What finally happened is some of those danged activists, decided to fight back with what weapons were available aboard ship, as opposed to just going limp as usual. I believe you are repeating Zionist propaganda. The ' tons of aid' is a stretch~~~only enough aid is allowed in to prevent wholesale starvation of the population. Medical aid is non-existent, and how many Palestinians have died at the gate, in an ambulance (for days) waiting to be allowed to enter? I see where the Israelis are claiming that aid will be transferred to Gaza, wanna bet how much? However, NO building materials will be allowed to pass, as the" Palestinians will not use it for housing, but to build bunkers." GRrrrr, don't even let me get started on this. Just remember, boarding a ship on the high seas is not self defense, but an act of war!

Phyllis P (237)
Sunday June 6, 2010, 4:46 pm
As always...thanks for another thought provoking article.

Carole Cherne (35)
Sunday June 6, 2010, 9:06 pm
It is heartening to see an elected official who speaks truth to power. I, too, would have voted for him in the last election and would still vote for him in a presidential race. Thanks for the great post!

Marianna molnar woods (9)
Monday June 7, 2010, 1:45 am

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday June 7, 2010, 3:45 pm
From Democracy Now.
Israel Rejects Call for International Probe into Attack on Gaza Flotilla
While international condemnation of Israel continues, inside Israel the mood is quite different. An Israeli parliamentary panel recommended today that the Knesset revoke the privileges of Israeli Arab lawmaker Hanin Zoabi for participating in last week's Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Right-wing demonstrators targeted a peace protest in Tel Aviv Saturday and reportedly attacked veteran Israeli activist, the eighty-six-year-old Uri Avnery. For more on the fallout of the flotilla attack and the reactions inside Israel, I'm joined now from Jaffa by Max Blumenthal.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday June 8, 2010, 10:51 am
Congress is back in session today from its Memorial Day recess, and is weighing in on Israel's assault on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla.  Here's a review of some Congressional initiatives and ways for you to take action:
The Good
On June 2, Rep. Dennis Kucinich began circulating a "Dear Colleague" letter, which states, in part, "Israel must account for our support, for the lives of our soldiers, for the investment of billions from our taxpayers.  Israel owes the United States more than reckless, pre-meditated violence waged against innocent people.
Ask your Representative to "sign on" to this "Dear Colleague" letter and ask him/her also to have the State Department initiate an investigation into whether Israel violated the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) by clicking here.
(By the way, our campaign to initiate an investigation into Israel's violation of the AECA is gathering momentum. Former UN Assistant Secretary General Dr. Peter Bourne wrote Secretary of State Clinton a letter based on our research.  Read about it on our blog.)   
Also, of note, on June 3, Rep. Barbara Lee and Rep. Keith Ellison sent President Obama a letter, calling on him to support an investigation into the attack and a lifting of the blockade of Gaza.
Thank Rep. Lee by calling her at (202) 225-2661 and Rep. Ellison by calling him at (202) 225-4755 or emailing him here.   

Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (209)
Tuesday June 8, 2010, 8:23 pm
Thanks Carole

Ian MacLeod (79)
Wednesday June 9, 2010, 4:04 am
Obama's balless initial response was ONLY understandable in the light of his corporate masters having either given him instructions, of his being afraid to HAVE an opinion in the absence of orders. This was an act of unadulterated Evil by Israel that also illustrates what Palestinians are going through day after day for years on end for the crime of refusing to be run out of the country they have lived in for centuries. I begin to suspect that Israel smells blood in the water with the NWO becoming more and more active and more careless about restricting information. They want to see "the Great Culling" and get whatever it is they've been promised as spoils. I wonder if they realize that they are themselves to be culled after their use as tools is done? If America lets this pass without action, then the entire government cannot be anything but corporate tools and it's time to clean the House and the Senate of vermin!


Ian MacLeod (79)
Wednesday June 9, 2010, 4:14 am
I meant to add that I'd REALLY like to know just what it was that an unarmed 19 year old young man did that required an Israeli soldier to put FOUR BULLETS in his head in order to defend his country and himself! And then there was the withholding of medical attention once they had control, too.

I don't think Israel has left itself ANY way out of this arrogant and poisonously sociopathic act that will leave unstained in the eyes of the world. Perhaps NOW some of those people who've carefully kept their heads in the sand about what Israel has been doing will choose pull their heads out a look around. . I hope so!


Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (209)
Wednesday June 9, 2010, 7:34 am
In light of Obama's non-response, one must assume they had the green light.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday June 9, 2010, 8:01 am

Andy (Locan), thanks for posting that. I subscribe to Global Research and kept meaning to read it.

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 5:28 pm
Thanks Just C! You know I LOVE Dennis!:) We would be SO much better off today if the dumb-a$$ Democratic Party had Listened to him & helped instead of hindered his 2008 campaign!

Jadon R. (0)
Wednesday October 5, 2011, 9:25 pm
This whole thread is a joke! Stop believing everything you people ars told and do some research!!!
The Humanitarian aid on that ship consisted of tons of 60mm mortars, rpgs, rockets, and over a million euros! Stop all this crap about the Israelis killing Turks trying to bring aid, they were bringing supplies to terrorists to use against them! What would our own country do with a ship sneaking in weapons to be used against us under the guise of humanitarian aid??? I know what I would do!!
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