Saturday September 19, 2009, 8:40 am
"What 'if' Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Venezuela (Hugo Chavez), and Al Qaeda were assisting this coordinated effort? ----" ?????

This is pure paranoia IMO.....

Suppose its just possible the NWO has something planned (as usual)

Saturday September 19, 2009, 8:41 am
Healthy-rational public debate and discussion are needed here!

I thank everyone for their personal participation in advance of comments.

Is America Ready???


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Saturday September 19, 2009, 11:29 am
America is always ready for anything...Especially ready for a media inspired war of no bodily but very much financial return...Weapons of mass deception etc....Let's face it...All American inspired wars are a joke, of profit to the warmongers but not quite the same for the civilians needlessly slaughtered...

Perhaps it is time to consider the welfare of the slaughtered rather than the profits of big ammo and big corporate profit...(think Halliburton/cheney?)...

"Conclusive evidence"...We've all seen this before and still believe it?...How sad, I dont, why do you?...Self defence?...Pull the other leg, that one is numb...

Saturday September 19, 2009, 12:04 pm
thanks sir robert

Saturday September 19, 2009, 12:11 pm
More Debate Entries Have Arrived!!!

The Third Jihad: "Is America Ready for the Next Terrorist Attack?"

Saturday September 19, 2009, 12:12 pm
In the fifties Senator McCarthy saw reds under every bed resulting in the banning of entertainers such as Maurice Chevaliar etc. LA county has deemed cats a terrorist threat in the 21st century and in concert with the UK the US has enacted laws that outlaw protest against animal abuse and global warming etc to protect big business. Can anyone really take any of the crap that spews forth from politicians mouths seriously. Only recently a UK citizen with a range of health issues was being extradited by the US for hacking into the Pentagon computer systems. With such petty vindictive actions as that against someone who should have been given a medal for exposing the lax security surrounding sensitive national security systems. America is becoming a laughing stock! The pentagon apparently left their back door open to any passing grade school hacker or any potential enemies of the US. This sort of infantile paranoia makes Alkieda, Russia, Korea, China, Iran, or any one else that might want to have a poke around the Pentagon's dirty washing think there must be something worth having a look at in there! Of course if the truth be told the security services are probably reading each others email and other sensitive data friend or foe on a daily basis Probably the only thing preventing the reading of US by UK and UK by US is their uncommon language! By far the largest damage to any country has been proven time and time again to be the result of inept and greedy politicians and their financial allies. Of course that applies to crapitalist or communist regimes.The recent self destruct of the banking system is a good example of internal meltdown. If indeed the forecasts are right and a large scale denial of service is attempted. Then business will have to revert to the old fashioned methods of face to face, telephone and letter communication. Perhaps what is really needed is a switch off the computor day or week or year! It has to be remembered that intelligence was used to justify the Iraq war and since then I think most people have become just a tad more cynical about such intelligence. Especially if it was obtained whilst some hapless maybe footsoldier was having his privates shocked or otherwise being abused. I find it absolutely amazing that so called intelligent individuals would deem intelligence obtained thus as reliable! But then the history books will apportion the idiocy with more evenhandedness than they deserve. Till then we will have to await October in the same manner as all the other armageddons we have been promised by the assorted inmates of the asylum! Think about it logically and if the end of the world does come next week or next year we are not going to know much about it as the information will probaby be censored in the interests of national security anyway! When it all goes blank and the lights go out the President or Prime Minister will stand in front of a non working microphone in a powerless studio trying to tell us it's not happening and every thing is normal! We shall listen to our silent radios and TVs and be reassured that all is well!

Saturday September 19, 2009, 1:27 pm
chris b. I have sent you a star. You deserve more than a star. I would like to ask if Afghanistan was ready for a terrorist attack and was Iraq? The US was attacked on 9/11 - and people from all over the world not just Americans, Muslim and non-Muslim died that day. If it were Al-Quaeda and Bin Laden behind it - a Saudi national - the people of Afghanistan did not deserve to suffer. As for Iraq, what threat did the Iraqis pose to the US? Saddam Hussein was funded, aided and abetted by the US and he was hanged conveniently before he could implicate them in the murder of hundreds of thousands of Kurds. The Kurdish people will not forget that. Somehow it is ok if your country is subjected to terrorist attacks day in, day out by the US (and now it is more and more by drones - how hideous is that?) it is not deemed somehow terrorism even though the people they have bombed and invaded may feel that it is. Dropping bombs on innocent peoples is not terrorism? Would someone please define for me what terrorism is? Which country - set aside the UK puppets - has perpetrated most terrorist activity in the last eight years - never mind the previous decades? How many people have died at the hands of the US? Oh, there is no body count of foreigners so will we ever know? And it goes on. According to the US, might is right. The powerful do not have to account for anything that they do, do they? But morally, the US is as damned now as it was in the days of Vietnam. They had no business there either. Get out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Close down your prisons worldwide, close down your military bases and let the rest of the world live in peace.

Saturday September 19, 2009, 1:31 pm
And stop supporting terrorist Israel. How much terrorism over the last 62 years have the Zionists committed? And continue to do. Intelligent people across the world recognise humbug for what it is.

Saturday September 19, 2009, 1:57 pm
"In those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father Source: Dogwood Papers

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H.L. Mencken

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw - (1856-1950) Irish author

Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq "1,339,771"
www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html

Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America's War On Iraq: 4,662
icasualties.org/oif/

Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan : 1,400
http://icasualties.org/oef/

Cost of War in Iraq
$683,380,305,888

Cost of War in Afghanistan
$227,016,709,458

The cost in your community?
www.nationalpriorities.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=182

Have a nice day! XO

Saturday September 19, 2009, 2:21 pm
Thanks Sir Robert

Saturday September 19, 2009, 3:42 pm
Cybersecurity Act of 2009 :

"Should the U.S. President Have Control Over the Internet?"

Saturday September 19, 2009, 4:10 pm
What on earth, Sir R, would be a cyberattack? The powers that were hated the printed press way back hundreds of years ago because free thinkers were able to disseminate ideas that were not approved of. Same difference now. The ability of ordinary people to communicate with such ease, to organise protests etc is anathema to those in power and the closing down of the internet they hope would stop protest. To say that would be unacceptable is just not enough - it should be unthinkable. Only tyrannies stop people protesting against governments in any way possible. I hope if they ever do this, they will rue the day. You cannot silence dissent in a democratic country. It is only in countries like the Soviet Union and now in the former Soviet Republics where dissenters can be boiled in oil (with the approval of the West) or China where people are terrorised and tortured that repression and censorship succeeds. But no doubt any old excuse will do. We had to close down the internet because somebody wanted to hack into our computers. Heavens, the American military's computers were hacked into by an autistic UK ciitizen and such is there fury they want him to spend the rest of his life in a super-max prison. Instead of just sorting out their computer problems. It's up to them to be secure - just as it is for us to have internet security. Well, in case it happens soon, can I say 'So long, it's been good to know you?' - in the words of a true American democrat.

Saturday September 19, 2009, 10:34 pm
At the moment they are tooooooooooooo busy discussing Bush's nuclear shield programme... and how they want to move it and implement changes... lets hope if this attack happens now, they won't get caught with their pants down in the move...

Sunday September 20, 2009, 12:52 am
The next terrorist attack in America is already in motion, it is an attack on the American citizens, and way of life BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT!!!!!

Sunday September 20, 2009, 1:28 am
A..what next talked/spun up terrorist attack is forthcoming? None...Although Raymond has probably hit the nail on the head...

B..."Should the U.S. President Have Control Over the Internet?" Not likely, nor has anyone else. Freedom is not a four letter word!

Sunday September 20, 2009, 2:14 am
I can't believe how naive some of the comments on this thread have been. America and the West is under constant threat of terrorist attack as the BBC report below clearly shows.


Three men have been arrested in connection with an alleged plot to launch an attack in the United States, the US Justice Department says.

Two Afghan-born men, a father and son, were arrested in Denver, Colorado.

A third man, also from Afghanistan, was later detained in New York, the department said.

The men are accused of making false statements related to "a matter involving international and domestic terrorism", the statement said.

The FBI was investigating several people "in the United States, Pakistan and elsewhere, relating to a plot to detonate improvised explosive devices in the United States", the Justice Department said in court documents related to the arrests.

US media have reported that the investigation was focusing on a possible plan to attack a public area in New York.

David Kris, assistant attorney general for national security, said the arrests were part of "an ongoing and fast-paced investigation".

Now which part of this report do you ostriches not understand?

Sunday September 20, 2009, 3:25 am
Should the Pesident have the power to turn off the internet?
Clearly the President is in a position to do as he thinks fit. however he will be advised by the same type of idiots that gave his predecessor the excuse to invade Iraq and allowed a UK hacker to circumvent their evidently useless Pentagon security. This guy should not have been extradited but given a medal for exposing this laxity! There is no such thing as a secure system. I'll repeat that in case you missed it there is no such thing as a secure system. Much of our daily businees relies on luck more than judgement much in the same way as if you leave your car or house unlocked it does not quarantee you will be a victim of crime! The only real way to prevent remote cybercrime is disconnection from the internet and I have never understood the reliance placed on firewalls and similar protection for the most sensitive of data. Surely it does not take either a computor expert or an idiot to ascertain keeping your secret nuggets stashed on a publicly accessable system is like putting your jewellary in a window with a help yourself sign above! The Nazis thought for example their Enigma encoding machine was unbreakable but history tells a different story. Sadly politicians never learn from history and the mistakes are replicated with monotonuos regularity! Thus if say the Pentagons dirty washing is to stay dirty they should not have such washing stored on systems with connectability outside the Pentagon. Similarly all manner of public utilities and business could theoretically be controlled by an enemy state, all they need are the relevant switching codes and they could control the water, power, telephone and the redhot line from the US to the UK etc. As I am sure the value of such control is only as relevant as the reciprocal control available to the invaded state! Put simply it's highly probable that the potential enemies of the US and UK such as China, Russia, Iran, Korea etc (the only reason US and UK cannot read each others is their uncommon English language!)are probably accessing and reading each others email and other traffic anyway and like the nuclear deterrent noboby wants to be first to hit the red button! With mutual destruction being the probable result! Therefore if the President believes switching off the internet is a survival strategy then so be it. Personally there are times when I would like to have a no internet day or week or year as one suffers from data overload and far too much information anyway! And as for the constant reports of successes at thwarting terrorism one might ask whether such reports are equally black propaganda from the state and perhaps the result of reading reprints of the WW2 SOE sabotage manuals replete with exploding coal (to put in Nazi steam trains!) propagation of misinformation, rats laden with explosives and all the other Boys Own comic book nonsense of the security services. Which of course has to contsantly invent new threats in order to justify its telephone number budgets worldwide! Terrorist cats in LA County and benign "pirate" sea captains being also dubbed terrorists by Japan along with Dalai Lama by China. Animal activists being taken to court for witnessing Canada's seal murder, reporters being adducted and their cameras stolen in Namibia, for doing the same. UK protestors finding their numberplates triggering ANPR cameras These are the actions of insecure and and morally bankrupt states the world over! Terrorist paranoia is a pandemic problem the terrorists would have loved to have claimed responsibility for! If the US believes the rest of the world is so against them, then perhaps it is time for the US to re examine it's foreign policies and stop emulating the Victorian foreign policies of the UK and just have a look at the damage it is doing to the world and his wife period! Maybe then it will understand the rationale of those who are not fans of the US! If we do not talk we do not understand, if we do not understand we destroy! Which is a shortened version of a quote from Chief Dan George of the First Nations of America!

Sunday September 20, 2009, 6:18 am
But Stan, that doesn't fit the leftist agenda. Those pesky terrorists are getting in their way.

Sunday September 20, 2009, 8:38 am
Re: Two Afghan-born men, a father and son, were arrested in Denver, Colorado..."In a telephone interview with the Denver Post newspaper on Saturday, Najibullah Zazi denied media reports that he had admitted any link to al-Qaeda or involvement in terrorism.

"It's not true," Mr Zazi said. "I have nothing to hide. It's all media publications reporting whatever they want. They have been reporting all this nonsense."

Sunday September 20, 2009, 9:19 am
OK, he said it's not true so it must not be. Right.

Sunday September 20, 2009, 9:27 am
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2009/September/Men-Arrested-for-False-Statements-in-Terror-Probe/

Monday September 21, 2009, 2:33 pm
All I can say is no, I don't think we could handle any kind of terrorist activity aimed at the U.S. in an appropriate and affective way.

Saturday September 26, 2009, 8:49 am
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