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Animal Torture, the Supreme Court, and Absurdity From the NYT and LAT


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: animal protection laws, animal cruelty video, crimes, court ruling )

Simone
- 54 days ago - animalrights.change.org
If you read Sunday's post from the Animal Legal Defense Fund (ALDF), you already have a grasp of what's happening at the U.S. Supreme Court today (if you haven't checked out that series of FAQ, I encourage you to do that now; we'll wait here for you).
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Gillian M. (105)
Tuesday October 6, 2009, 3:35 pm
I agree that this beggars belief. There is a recognition that animal abuse is related to child abuse so the showing of animal cruelty may encourage it. Free speech is something that we, the Allies, have fought and died for, but so were individual freedoms and the protection of the vulnerable.
 

Chaz Gaily Berlusconi (251)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 1:52 am
Thannnxxx Simone... education awareness are vital in preventing this cruelty s well as recognition in early childhood problems and behaviour... this is addressed with counselling... there has to be a firm stance on this subject and no respite given for individuals who abuse animals..
 

Kristi K. (1936)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 8:08 am
There is no way that filming the torture of animals should be PROTECTED SPEECH. What's next? Small children and old people? Shame on the makers of these films and shame on the Supreme Court if they allow it.
 

Arielle S. (112)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 10:57 am
There should not even be a discussion about this - there are just some things that should not be protected by "free speech" - how insane must they be?
 

Mary M. (6)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 12:22 pm
Free speech - if you censor this, you will be open for rebuttal on everything everyone says or does. The thing is not to go see this or anything else - lack of monetary influx will soon discourage these film makers from their endeavors. You don't have to watch these things. Yes, I agree animal torture is not right, but then again, this kind of torture is not new (only more publicized). Those that produce these types of films are low lifes! Our only recourse is not to spend money viewing these things.
 

michele s. (3)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 12:50 pm
Free speech my butt! Does this mean snuff films are an expression of free speech too? I agree this shouldn't even be up for debate! Who the hell brought this issue before the S.C.??? Who the hell is talking in those films anyway????? Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in!!
 

David B. (15)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 1:01 pm
thanks Simone! so it's ok ,if i be interpreting this correctly it's ok to make ,promote,and sell cruelty to animal pics and vids?? sorry i'll bet if they searched his house they'd find kiddy porn there as well!!sorry if you'd do that to animals you'd also do it to children!! sick sucker!if there is any justice the court should stop it all in it's tracks!! child porn pics animal torture and abuse pics and vids,one in the same as i see it !!
 

Mandi T. (263)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 1:52 pm
sAW THIS ON THE NEWS LAST NIGHT GRRRRR.
TX SIMONE
 

johnnie W. (23)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 2:15 pm
Were did this man come from and how did he get were he is. Do you think he will say its okay to make snuff movies, because someone might like them. Hell NO. so is he saying its okay to kill animals movies because someone like them? Dud, its illegal to do animal cruelty, killing an animal is cruelty, so what would that make the film anything but evidence against an illegal act they committed. Is that so far out there? What next people that like to abuse children? This could go on forever, and it could open such a can of worms, when the other is obviously a illegal act, being filmed, by Mr Roberts calling it educational. Gimme me a break. JUSTICE SCALIA TALKS WITH THE NOBILITY OF TRUTH AND IT IS REALLY JUST THE DEPRAVITY OF LIES. .
 

Shirley H. (33)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 2:19 pm
That is very sad.
Shirley H.
 

suzanne s. (9)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 6:05 pm
the one telling point that this article does not make is that the acts being filmed are illegal in all 50 states, and it's the videos, not the acts themselves that are the cash cows. i cannot understand why the filming and selling films of explictly illegal acts should be protected. another act that i find oh so special is "crushing", where women in stilettos stomp small dogs to death. those videos are very popular these days. being able to make money legally from illegal acts makes absolutely no sense.
 

Rod Gesner (57)
Wednesday October 7, 2009, 9:27 pm
I don't get this?
I Thought that even Insect "Crushing" or "Stomp" Films Were illegal?
WTF.?.?
If it is an illegal act; and it ecourages Others to Commit that Same Illegal Act...
..Any Film Should Be Seized as Evidence; and while News the Reporting on this should Be Allowed...
..The Profiting By People That Participate in these Felonies Even if They were not Commited in the USA; It Still should Be Covered By RICO organized Crime Seizure Laws.
 

michele s. (3)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 5:49 am
Is there any way we can send messages to Scalia directly? Or is that form of free speech prohibited? I hate sitting by while someone pisses on my les & tells me it's raining.
 

michele s. (3)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 5:50 am
oops....that should have read ...."pisses on my leg......."
Guess my g is sticky.....just like the Supreme Court members.
 

Arielle S. (112)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 10:48 am
It starts with animal cruelty - and then becomes hatred for minorities and then it's no rights for women and then we are right back in the Dark Ages. When does the book burning start? Animal cruelty has NOTHING to do with free speech - Justice Scalia should get his head out of his butt and look around...
 

serge vrabec (253)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 12:17 pm
Anyone WHO IS INVOLVED IN any and all FORMS OF ANIMAL CRUELTY should not wonder WHY their life is going "downhill" and becoming unmanageable, the reason is because of Y-OUR treatment of the Animals. YOU must stop or your life is going to get a whole lot 'worse", NOW. You have been forewarned, YOU must and WILL accept the consequences of your actions x10 against the GREAT Animal Kingdom and yourselves. AND so it is done......thank you, AMEN

If you look right into the eye of ANY animal , it is part of GOD you are seeing, please start acting accordingly or not.:):):)
 

serge vrabec (253)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 12:17 pm


Ask the experimenters why they experiment on animals, and the answer is: "Because the animals are like us." Ask the experimenters why it is morally okay to experiment on animals, and the answer is: "Because the animals are not like us." Animal experimentation rests on a logical contradiction. ~Charles R. Magel
 

serge vrabec (253)
Thursday October 8, 2009, 12:18 pm
BTW, thank you Simone, we love you and the animals adore you too:):):)
 
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