Tuesday December 6, 2011, 12:13 am
A rather unusual case is making its way to the Supreme Court. Injustice will be done even if the four Justices are joined by one or more of the five Injustices in the better decision. The case involves a man who was falsely arrested in 2006 for having the audacity to criticize a war criminal, ChickenHawk Cheney. (I refuse to call him Dick, lest I be accosted by a gang of angry male body parts.)
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 4:57 am
Completely agree TomCat - surely Mr Howard's Constitutional rights have been broken and scattered to the four winds - how can such a ludicrous case have ever come to trial?
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 4:58 am
The Exterminator - kept alive by all sorts of machinery will haunt us for the rest of our lives - I shall not grieve when his machinery gives out, if he's not trying to kill us with a fabricated war, he'll do it by fracking - at least he knows how US tax dollars should be spent - taking his law suits to the supreme super committee!
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 5:34 am
Have to agree with Lee as Cheny's support for and greasing the skids for fracking is well known. here in NY we continue to fight but it looks like both our DEC and Governor have been bought and paid for by the industry.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 8:10 am
I wonder if Cheneys medical intervention of choice for now, and not opting for a permanent fix, (though at his age "permanent" is a relative term) has anything to do with wanting to see if this call for his head is going anywhere?
He may be sick, but i'd sure like to see him at least legally charged with something, even if its on his deathbed!
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 11:42 am
While I agree that many politicians, especial the President and Vice-President, need protection (unfortunately) from physical assault or threats, and that those people protecting them need to be pro-active and sometimes aggressive in identifying and preventing such attacks, that does not seem to be the case here. As I often like to do, I read the original source from which this item comes that gives a more detailed account of what happened. See: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/1205/Supreme-Court-to-weigh-Can-man-sue-Secret-Service-agents-in-Dick-Cheney-case
It seems that AFTER Howards had his 'confrontation' with Cheney, "Howards left the area to attend the piano recital, but he later passed near the vice president on his way out of the mall. At some point, Howards’s younger son wandered off. Secret Service agents approached Howards as he was looking for his son."
At that point there was a confrontation with the agents who then arrested him for assaulting Cheney. Seems rather strange that Howards wasn't immediately taken down and arrested at the time of the 'assault'. It seems rather obvious to me that Howards did NOT 'assault' the VP and that he did NOT pose any threat to the VP. It appears that the only reason he was arrested is because the agents didn't like what he was saying.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 1:30 pm
Cheney has no conscious and would do anything immoral or even illegal to promote himself and his cause, no matter how unfair, how unjust, or how devestating it may be!
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Tuesday December 6, 2011, 2:20 pm
Chney can shoot an old man in the face & then Make Him apologize, but civilians cannot disagree with the ex-VP Public?? WTF? "They later justified the arrest by claiming Mr. Howards lied to them about whether he “touched” the vice president during the brief encounter." IF a civilian Actually Touched the king of the undead, wouldn't the Sec. Service have tackled that person At That Time??? Was he pi$$ed because they Didn't & that's why they over-reacted????? Sounds pretty squirrelly to me.. I can see where (like NYPD) they were Only Following Orders, but that didn't work for the Nazis BEFORE & it shouldn't protect New Age Hired Thugs either.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 4:05 pm
It is my opinion Cheney is so evil he could be a son of the devil. I believe many of our SCOTUS Justices are corrupt and they don't make decisions on the merits of the case they make decisions on what those who control them want them to do. I have lost all faith in SCOTUS.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 6:09 pm
I can't speak to Cheney any more. My Impeach Cheney hat and tee-shirt are frayed and faded their so old. I had a contractor come to the house a couple of years ago, when I was wearing my hat and he said "Well I guess there’s not doubt what side of the street you stand on." I told him the choice was easy and if he wanted to know why he could buy me beer and I’d be happy to tell him how and why. Guess who showed up at my gate around sundown with a 6 pack of Buds? It was Budweiser, but I gave him an hour plus of the reasons why, along with sources to check them out for himself, anyway.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 8:20 pm
Hey Terrie Williams; Don't go insulting Darth Vader......Cheney is evil all the way to the core. Darth Vader was only deluded and eventually realized his mistake. Cheney, on the other hand will be evil all the way to the grave.
Cheney is evil and even though the SS was Supposedly protecting their charge, they were still lawfully accountable to insure that the rights of the individual are protected as well as the life, no matter how useless it is, of their charge.
Cheney should be charged and sued right alongside those agents; they were following his orders.
Tuesday December 6, 2011, 8:31 pm
Too bad Howard couldn't make a citizen's arrest of ChickenHawk Cheney and deliver him to the ICC to stand trial as a war criminal!
The Secret Service has a difficult job --- agents have to protect the president or vice president, taking a bullet if necessary, even though they may not 'like' the individual. And I agree that many such decisions are split second affording no time for debate. Is it the protectee that sets the form of protection or is it the protector that does. If Cheney said "arrest this idiot for asking that question" then for sure Cheney should be the one charged, not the agents. But even if Cheney did say that, nobody would ever get him to admit it. His teflon suit will protect him for now.
Even though Howard was arrested and charges dropped, he still has his 1st amendment rights which were curtailed by the agents. Those rights are sacrosanct and someone needs to account. Personally, I don't find his question rude, just very direct and completely understandable in the context.
I am afraid that justice will never be done when it involves Cheney.
The Plan is for the United States to rule the world. The overt theme is unilateralism, but it is ultimately a story of domination. It calls for the United States to maintain its overwhelming military superiority and prevent new rivals from rising up to challenge it on the world stage. It calls for dominion over friends and enemies alike. It says not that the United States must be more powerful, or most powerful, but that it must be absolutely powerful.
By David Armstrong; Harper's Magazine, 0017789X, Oct 2002, Vol. 305, Issue 1829
Few writers are more ambitious than the writers of government policy papers, and few policy papers are more ambitious than Dick Cheney’s masterwork. It has taken several forms over the last decade and is in fact the product of several ghostwriters (notably Paul Wolfowitz and Colin Powell), but Cheney has been consistent in his dedication to the ideas in the documents that bear his name, and he has maintained a close association with the ideologues behind them. Let us, therefore, call Cheney the author, and this series of documents the Plan.
Wednesday December 7, 2011, 1:50 am
Tom, I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to cut and paste my response to this issue in a thread posted by Horsehockey Horace on Monday:
Monday December 5, 2011, 5:31 pm
"Let's see. Cheney shoots someone in the face and doesn't face any charges --and even gets is an apology from his victim for getting in his way! Someone questions Cheney about his part in the Iraq war and puts his palm on his shoulder, and he gets arrested. And now the Secret Service might have to take the rap for protecting the miserable bastard from having to explain his part in thousands of unnecessary deaths! This man is made of teflon!"
This issue can't be brought up often enough! Cheney is evil personified, and he can't keep getting away with "murder" --both literally and figuratively! His contributions to the start and duration of multiple questionable wars makes him a "murderer" in my book!