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Voters Without Values

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Religion, GOP Fear, GOP Hate, LGBT, Maddow, Supply-side Jesus, Video )

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TomCat S (129)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 10:48 am
Itís time to get out the tinfoil hat polish again as Republican Supply-side pseudo-Christians are gathering to express their gospel of hate, fear, bigotry, greed and racism fostered, not by the real Jesus, who represented the exact opposite, but by the Jesus they invented themselves: Republican Supply-side Jesus. And in the midst of all this is the Republican VP candidate, Paul Ryan.

Sheryl G (363)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 1:24 pm
Thanks Tom, I watched the video where the extremists on the right are calling Obama gay. My goodness they all need to crawl back under their rocks.

I just put a story on where Paul Ryan was billed along with the so called "terrorist" for their speeches at the Value Voters Summit. Please watch the video.....whether he was a former terrorist or still is one, I think the man found his new group to join, the American Taliban Terrorist.
Paul Ryan Is Speaker Along With a Former (Fake?) Terrorist

Yvonne White (229)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 1:38 pm
LOL! "Dang! Kenyan, Muslim, Nazi, Socialist AND Gay?!!? Who would have thunk it!!" Wow! Obama is a Renaissance man!:) I think you're spot on Tom! "It seems that voters without values prefer candidates without value."

Shelly Peterson (213)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 2:59 pm
Zillions of green stars to you, Tom, Sheryl and Yvonne!!

David C (131)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 3:06 pm
...without values....common sense or education about the issues......

Mary T (178)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 5:40 pm
Thanks Tom of course they had to invent their own Jesus to live up to their standards they are so far out there in their stupidity it is scary stuff.

John B (185)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 6:35 pm
Thanks Tom for the posting. Ryan and Bill Bennett at the same gathering should tell us all we need to know. Sad and scary at the same time. Read and noted. hope you are feeling better and please, have a restful weekend.

Evelyn W (15)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 7:52 pm
Thank-you Tom

Michael Carney (217)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 9:48 pm
These people should be required to give a urine sample...And Yvonne, I couldn't have said it better myself...

Esther Z (94)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 10:03 pm
Loved Rachel's segment on the right wing nutter's new found Obama gaydar. Folks, that gaydar is broken, along with their sense of ethics, shame and conscience. People just can't constantly lie, distort the truth without losing some part of their humanity along the way. Probably the reason most people say Romney sometimes acts like a robot; he lost part of his humanity a long time ago.
Thanks for the post, Tom.

Terrie W (798)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 11:10 pm
Part? The only thing left in Mr. Roboto Rmoney that is human is his ability to breathe...oh wait....reptiles and algii do that too. Nevermind.


Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 12:51 am
I listened to all the Rachel Maddow segments which were very, very interesting. I have read articles on the Libyan situation, the protests in Egypt and other Muslim countries. I have seen comments from Romney and Ryan as well as other American politicians, Pastor Terry Jones, journalists, conspiracy theorists and fanatical right wingnuts.

In all the furor, what is emerging is a hedonistic cynicism much like the voyeurism of the reality TV genre (IMHO) and it is being promoted by the fanatical right trying to whip the American public into a frenzy, a frenzy that is gripping the American psyche. When it comes to Romney and Ryan, they don't care about the truth. It was certainly apparent that Senator Rob Portman, a surrogate for Romney, doesn't care about the truth either as, once shown his statement was inaccurate and he acknowledged that, he went back to the same inaccuracies.

And then the resurgence of the "new and improved" birther crap that also alleges that Mr Obama is gay . . . give me a break! I think the Republican/Teabaggers are afraid of their corporate masters to the extent that they are willing to appear absolutely insane, rather than risk losing the election. They still risk losing the election though because they are so extreme, so un-American, almost anti-American. The American people who vote for this three ring circus are certainly delusional and voting against their best interests.


P A (117)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:31 am
Oh Holy Hannah - I can't cope with all this load of hate and lies and rank insanitea from the Far Right - trouble is that many people can't get to grips with their own selves and thus project their own hatred and insecurities onto others - and this is what the Far Right is tapping into... We must never give up arguing for tolerance and generosity of spirit!

Susanne R (235)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 7:26 am
Ever wonder what happened to the staff of the "Weekly World News" (WWN) after that publication printed its last issue? Well wonder no more! It appears that the Republican right has hired the flock of fertile minds that brought us the "Bat Boy Lives" series, the "Clintons are Really Aliens" stories, and so many, many more enlightening tales of the fantastic for the education of intellectually-challenged and the amusement of everyone else.

Here's a little sample, courtesy of Wikipedia, of a typical story the WWN would feature on the subject of terrorism:

"Following the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001 the WWN featured articles exposing plans for possible future terrorist attacks on the United States of America. A 2004 cover story leaked plans by Kim Jong-il to eventually invade and conquer the United States. Other stories featured profiles on the location and nature of Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction, including the news that Saddam Hussein had an arsenal of giant slingshots, the missing link and Dinosaurs. In 2003, a series of articles profiled the ongoing relationship, and eventual marriage of Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Other stories have made claims that Bin Laden is actually a dwarf, that he recruited a cloned Adolf Hitler to join Al Qaeda or that he is in fact dead and that the CIA is keeping it a secret. Since being captured by Batboy, Saddam has been humiliated by female prison guards, won the United States lottery, and even demanded that the government pay for his sex change operation. The April 25, 2005 issue of WWN revealed a thwarted attempt by terrorists abducted by aliens to hijack their UFO and fly it into the White House."

Is this stuff starting to sound familiar? There isn't a nuthouse big enough to contain the lunatic fringe of the Republican party, so why don't we find them their own island?

Joanne D (38)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 9:57 am
Republicans do have values, and their values are based on the same six foundations that ours are based on, but the emphasis is VERY different and the difference in understanding of facts plays a BIG part.

Kindness v cruelty: Republicans believe this but put it way behind other pillars, when for us it is at the front. Also they don't think it applies to animals or even some humans. We apply it to all.

Liberty v oppression: This would be our second strongest pillar. Libertarians, who are increasingly influencing Republican policy, are big on this, naturally, and their influence shows the results of stressing this pillar without tempering it with equality. It leaves people free to starve.

Fairness v cheating. We all agree on this. What we don't all agree on is who is doing the cheating. Do I even need to expand on this? Facts would really help being us together on this point.

Loyalty v betrayal. We all agree on this too, but we don't agree on the identity of the group, or even the size. This good principle can lead to racism, sexism, jingoistic nationalism, and religious bigotry if the group is defined too narrowly. Sadly, small groups are how things get accomplished. We need a real cultural revolution in order to resolve this dichotomy.

Authority v subversion. Liberals aren't big on this. Conservatives are. We do need some authority - We believe we have a government of laws not men, but somehow that has to be enforced. Laws don't get up off the page and enforce themselves.

Sanctity v degradation. Liberals really don't think in these terms, though our concern with clean water and air and sustainable and moral food supply reflects that deep down in our psyche this pillar exists. For the right, especially the religious right, this is where the opposition to gay marriage, reproductive choice, and public sex education comes from. As a Christian myself, I would point out that throughout all four Gospels Jesus is in constant opposition to "sanctity"; though he states he has not come to overturn the law but to fulfill it, he really only gets angry when it is the Temple which is being violated. He's very understanding of sexual transgressions and overindulgence in food and drink (the Pharisees are always complaining he hangs out with such AWFUL people), and he sums up the Law in Kindness v Cruelty terms. So I think the right is wrong here. But I do know we are not going to get anywhere just putting them down for it. That will only make tham dig in their heels.

I bring this up because we are not just talking to ourselves, right leaning people do real and post here, and somehow we all need to learn to get along, or we will commit national suicide - and in the process set the whole world back hundres of years socially, if not technologically. Can you imagine what, for instance, the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition would have looked like with modern technology? Truly a vision of hell.

Nancy L (141)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 10:48 am
The only hate and fear mongering I see is from posts like this.

TomCat S (129)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 10:50 am
Thanks to all Kudos to many, Including Joanne. The only people I consider without values are the onbes that propagate and buy into the hatred and oppression of others.

lee e (114)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 1:56 pm
Does that mean Michelle is just a "marriage of convenience"? Poor Michelle, those aides must be cruising the streets to bring home some tricks to keep the "O" happy (in the oval office?)! What a scandal! I'm shocked :)!
Nothing surprises me any more with that group of haters! I suppose there must be a few random pugs who actually have a sense of morality, but they're becoming a rare breed indeed! Unfortunately, they are also responsible for the degradation of the moral character of the nation as well!

Jim P (3257)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 5:59 pm

Hmmm... without values meaning without conscience...

Ty, Tom.

Kamila A (141)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 9:14 pm
Zombies and vampires and republicans are all equally scary, inhuman and from another reality not ours

Edith B (146)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 9:17 pm
Nothing Romney/Ryan or McConnell/Boehner come up with surprises me anymore.

Carol H (229)
Monday September 17, 2012, 6:00 am
noted, thanks Tom

Winn A (179)
Monday September 17, 2012, 1:00 pm
Republicans have NO intention of EVER cooperating with ANY Democrat in office. They are against women, children and the middle class. Why they have become so obstructive over the years I can only guess is that they want more money in their pockets and to hell with the rest of the nation. Vote Republicans out of office in every state and at every opportunity.

Billie C (2)
Monday September 17, 2012, 8:53 pm
i guess that means most of the people that have commented on this are attending. hate is all over this place.

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Wednesday September 19, 2012, 1:59 am
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