Tuesday November 13, 2012, 8:51 am
To be clear, I am not, and have never been a fan of David Petraeus. I opposed his COIN strategy in Iraq, and admit that I was wrong. It was effective. I opposed him adopting COIN in Afghanistan. This time I was right. One size did not fit all. I opposed his inclusion in the Obama administration. I am not surprised that the scandal is becoming more and more complex.
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 9:35 am
What a extraordinary story....! I don't believe the Repuglicon paranoia though - they are that always and presumably always check under the bed and in the wardrobe for monsters before they go to sleep at night(!).
Scandal, scandal and more lousy judgements....Powerful men, seem to need an injection of excitement and lack the ability to learn from history. It is said that Petraeus often repeated the words, "some one always watching" ya think? Director of the CIA, - someone might be watching? Poor choice of paramours is also evident as this married woman, Paula Broadmoor, can not stop talking about the CIA and her "inside" knowledge of Benghazi, in her dreams. Then Jill Kelley a woman who is a "friend" to both Petraeus and General Allen, some how has a friend in the FBI, that helps to turn one more martial scandal into a national soap opera.
Let them investigate, tell the cards fall as they may. Poor judgement begets indiscretion, begets scandal and embarrassment. I probably should not hold out high hopes for either those at the zenith of power nor those in law enforcement, still I do expect better of these people that hold our national security within their hands.
The scandal involving former CIA Director David Petraeus widened on Tuesday as U.S. defense officials said they were looking into "flirtatious" e-mails between General John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, and a woman at the center of the affair.
Defense Department officials said they were sifting through 30,000 pages of email and other communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a Florida socialite whose complaints about harassing messages led to the discovery of Petraeus' affair with his biographer.
The revelation threatens to fell another of the U.S. military's biggest names after Petraeus' surprise resignation last week. It also complicates President Barack Obama's efforts to wind down the war in Afghanistan and reorganize his national security team following his re-election.
A senior defense official told Reuters the emails between Allen and Kelley were seen as potentially inappropriate because they were "flirtatious" in nature, not because they dealt with sensitive information. Allen has denied that the two had a sexual relationship, officials said on condition of anonymity.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Allen, a four-star Marine Corps general, would stay in his job for the time being, and the White House said Obama still had faith in Allen's ability to command U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
But asked how Obama saw the unfolding scandal at a time when his priorities include impending "fiscal cliff," Press Secretary Jay Carney said: "I certainly wouldn't call it welcome."
Obama suspended plans to transfer Allen to Europe, where he was to be the top commander of U.S. and allied forces in the region.
Thhhat's all folks....until more comes out tomorrow. Maybe even for the rest of the year...
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 3:24 pm
Seriously? 30,000 pages of email and other communications between Allen and Jill Kelley??!! That's more than a Little Flirtatious..is she His biographer??"Defense Department officials said they were sifting through 30,000 pages of email and other communications between Allen and Jill Kelley, a Florida socialite whose complaints about harassing messages led to the discovery of Petraeus' affair with his biographer."
I never liked Petraeus - never Trusted ANY head of the CIA (Bu$h Leaguer$ Especially!) and I hope Everyone is now Aware how indepth the FBI & NSA & Whatever Agency can do with our emails & "other communications (can they hear me yet?;)!!!!!
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:14 pm
Thanks Tom for the post. Who knows where this will lead but as you suggest maybe it is time for a shake up in the military branches and better general officers put in place. Read, viewed and noted.
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:41 pm
After having our president Moshe Katzav imprisoned because of rape charges nothing surprises me. These flirtatious mail wouldn't make anyone in Israeli politics bat an eye...
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 1:20 am
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
There are still so many questions to be answered in order to fully understand what happened. That there was an affair between Petraeus and Broadwell is certain based on Petraeus' confession. And that is something that they and their spouses will have to deal with. But what confuses me is this Kelly woman and her actions. If she was getting threatening e-mails, why would she go to the FBI and not her local police? And now that is dragging the current top dog in Afghanistan into the fray.
There is more going on here than we know, and I'd bet a lot of it could come under the title of political intrigue.
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 4:02 am
If only the news organizations pursued acts of corruption and those committing those acts within our government as tenaciously as this story, but this story has all the elements of a good book down the road, infidelity, intimated espionage, lurid emails. It won't be long before we'll be watching it on either HBO or Lifetime.
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 6:40 am
A couple of things you should all know or remember. Firstly, power corrupts. Secondly, flag rank in the military these days goes to the best politicians and yes men. Petraeus with his Vietnam erea COIN theory should never have risen to the positions he held. Same is trye for the three other flag officers recently demoted, told to resign or chastised for their abuse of office.
Behind this so called indiscretion is an interesting phenomenon of the rich lady who grooves on power and being around that power before assuming it onto herself. Man, this is the stuff of novels!
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 8:35 am
For a military career based on honor, discipline, and good character, CIA Director Patraeus is showing to be lacking on all counts. As for common sense, well, that also seems to be nonexistent.
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:25 am
I'm shocked, SHOCKED!!! at such behavior. Seriously, though, there is no rule in the handbook that says military geniuses (like it or not, these guys are good) can't be total morons in their personal lives. They're like what used to be called idiot savants (I don't know what the current, socially acceptable term is). What surprises me most of all is that we're paying so much attention to such a ridiculous non-story as a couple of swell-headed generals being sucked in by cute, manipulating camp followers.
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:15 pm
I agree with Snuffy. Women are attracted to powerful men and make fools of themselves trying to earn their attention and affection. Powerful men like the attention and make fools of themselves by hopping into bed with the women who pursue them. Unfortunately, there will always be the conspiracy theorists who will turn this into something other than what it is. This, too, shall pass. No one is indispensable! When it comes to sex, no ulterior motives are needed!
Thursday November 15, 2012, 4:00 pm
I find it interesting the Republicans (and especially Fox News) are whipped into a frenzy and are practically frothing at the mouth over an affair and flirtatious emails and yet stay quite calm about rapes in the military. Which leads me to believe they no better than pond scum. No matter how bad, if something does not further their own political agenda, it's swept aside. Talk about hypocrites.