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Open Thread - 11/14/2012


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

TomCat
- 772 days ago - politicsplus.org
Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).



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Kit B. (276)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 11:09 am

If you happened to be a teacher, firefighter, police or one of the millions who directly or indirectly work for the government, you remember breathing a sigh of relief that you had some savings. Because there were NO pay checks. This is not political differences, ideology or belief in anything being "balanced" this is some stubborn old farts that will callously do whatever it takes to get their way. The answer is to fill DC with a couple of million people that say "NO" to these threats and tactics of intimidation.
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 11:10 am

Thanks TomCat for a great line up of news articles today, I enjoyed each one.
 

Pat A. (116)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 11:22 am
Thanks TC - I am impressed by your lads too (what do I call them?).
 

John B. (122)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 2:53 pm
Thanks Tom for the post.
Sykes lays it out there doesn't she.
The fascist five will undoubtedly uphold the decision. Their motto seems to be "Damn the constitution, full speed ahead".
Andy is such a good satirist. I too go on record as not knowing either of those two intimately.
Cartoon: I'm sure Speaker Binehead remembers what happened to Newt.
Read and noted.
 

Dave C. (227)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 5:13 pm
thanks, Tom.....Kit, sorry I can't send you a star, but I think your comment is absolutely correct!
 

Lynn Squance (219)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 7:56 pm
Puzzle — 3:33 Jerry, you're no ugly duckling! I think that honour belongs to TC today, but a very tired ugly duckling. Now will Patty come along and clip all our wings?

MoveOn — Since I have never heard of Wanda Sykes, I can only imagine the GOP hissy fit that would ensue if she did send them a video. The righties would probably say something like "I told you so. Welfare queens all!"


NY Times — "The State Department said American law provides redress, including by allowing plaintiffs to sue “federal officials directly for damages under provisions of the U.S. Constitution.” . . . Foreign citizens can sue foreign officials under American law. Americans can sue foreign officials. But in the Seventh Circuit, covering Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin, Americans are the only citizens who have no remedy under American law against American officials allegedly responsible for torture."

Isn't that just great . . . a foreign national has more rights than an American citizen when it comes to torture by American officials. There is no justification for this! SCOTUS will only uphold the full Court of Appeals' decision because it is tainted with cronyism and GOP dictates. To side with the the original decision would mean the Rumsfeld for sure, and possibly Baby Bush and Cheney would get their pants sued off. I still say Baby Bush and Cheney should face the ICC in The Hague for war crimes.

The New Yorker — "Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said today that he expected the Petraeus scandal to wind down by early 2015 but would not commit to an official timetable." — My, my! About a year and a half of life on hold for what seems to be a lot of people. Given where Gen Allen seemed to have been headed, I'll bet this will put the kibosh on his plans in Europe, maybe even Afghanistan. Amazing when you think that as many as 110 million Americans may be involved without even knowing it. I read somewhere that the military establishment (the top echelons) are so full of political hacks courtesy of Baby Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, that only a thorough "take no prisoners" approach house cleaning would begin to correct the situation.

Cartoon — As Chairman of the House Republicans in 1995, Boehner would have been in the thick of the shutdown. Now in 2012, as Speaker of the House, he will be in the thick of it again! And he has orchestrated some near misses inbetween to boot! Republican/Teabaggers — a pox on all their political careers and shenanigans!

 

Mary T. (185)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 8:05 pm
Thanks Tom, Noted.
 

Robert O. (12)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 9:23 pm
Thanks Tom.
 

JL A. (276)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 9:38 pm
Seems so inappropriate for Americans to be defending torture...
 

Joe R. (190)
Friday November 16, 2012, 7:02 am
Thanks TomCat. (4:18)
 

TomCat S. (231)
Friday November 16, 2012, 8:40 am
Thanks everyone. Pat, I call them prisoners or my guys.
 

Sheila D. (26)
Friday November 16, 2012, 6:45 pm
Thanks TomCat. I love Wanda Sykes. Not only is she a great comedian, she is quite perceptive. As for the Republicans; it's still going to be a fight. We shall continue to hope those with the county's interests at heart will prevail. As for torture in the military; it seems to me there has always been a problem with the military using soldiers for experiments of one kind or another. Maybe it's time for a change where they should be allowed recompense. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Friday November 16, 2012, 11:48 pm
Wanda Sykes got right! She's a woman, she's black, and she's gay --and that's three strikes against her as far as the Republicans are concerned.

Tom asked, "What is Agent Orange thinking now?" Hmm... My guess would be: 1) "I might have to change my evil ways or find another career in two years; or 2) "Should I risk using the tanning booth or invest in a full-body spray?"
 

Susanne R. (249)
Friday November 16, 2012, 11:49 pm
Meant to say: "Wanda Sykes got THAT right! Sorry...
 
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