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Open Thread - 11/19/2012

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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P A (117)
Monday November 19, 2012, 9:47 am
Thanks TC.

Jim Phillips (3257)
Monday November 19, 2012, 10:34 am

TEXT of Address: Spoken exactly 149 years ago this day.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Awesome speech!

Steven Spielberg has made a movie titled "Lincoln" currently playing at theatres now.


Ty, Tom.

Pat B (356)
Monday November 19, 2012, 12:07 pm
Thanks, Tom, for this. As for the Gettysburg Address, I remember for homework (think it was 7th grade) having to memorize this powerful speech. I was amazed then, and am now, at reading the eloquence of Lincoln's words. I'd like to go see the movie too. Great Post, glad your 'boys' won the game. ;-)

Chris C (152)
Monday November 19, 2012, 12:14 pm
I remember studying The Gettysburg Address in grade school! Amazing, as was Abraham Lincoln. No wonder Obama idolizes him!
Thanks Tom and thanks Jim P for the GA.

Lynn S (235)
Monday November 19, 2012, 12:32 pm
Puzzle — 3:03 Now that is one indignant cat! Oh the eyes! . . . and a true tiger cat with black on ginger!

MoveOn — Women make up 51% of the population — that should be reflected in the Congress, and all the better if they are Democratic women! Loved the spot on Jon Stewart where the female talking heads at Faux Noise said married women favoured Romney. Does this mean that many women, when they get married to men, lose all sense of self and start acting like little puppy dogs clamouring after their owners? Having always been single, just wondering.

Think Progress — Sorry TC, but I have to disagree with you on this one.

The more time passes, the more McConJob acts just like a Republican. an asshole, and he graduated summa cum laude with a degree in Assholology! PhD — Piled higher and Deeper!

TPM — In my mind, the Republican Party, the party of Grumpy Old Pharts, is dead. Not only are their bodies going to be fossilised, but their thinking is already fossilised! They, in general, are not capable of thinking for themselves, preferring to think, do and say what they are told to. These "rebels" really need to move on where they can do some good for the people. What was that Kenny Rogers' line — Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em! Well I think it is time to "fold 'em"!

Cartoon — The Gettysburg Address! One of a handfull of Wikipedia articles that, were it a book, would be a dogearred page from consulting it so much! My favourite line and probably the best known — "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."


Yvonne White (229)
Monday November 19, 2012, 5:00 pm
We had to memorize the Gettysburg Address in History class - though I don't recall if it was in 8th grade or in American History in High School..maybe both!;) Love the speech & remember Most of it!

John B (185)
Monday November 19, 2012, 5:41 pm
Thanks Tom for the post.
When congress shows a 50% female make up then I will celebrate.
McCain needs to retreat to his office and take nap.
If the pro-same sex marriage, pro-choice, pro-tax Republican activists go mainstream they will have to form their own party.
Gettysburg Address: short, sweet and to the point. There have been only two honorable Republican Presidents since Lincoln: Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Read and noted.

Robert T (62)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 4:10 pm
I can highly recommend the movie Lincoln. It was filled with history and humor.

Stella Gamboni (17)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:37 pm
Best place to read the Gettysburg Address is at the Lincoln Memorial. With a 19-foot Lincoln looking over your shoulder, it comes to life.

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 8:09 am
Thanks everyone. Kudos to Jim.

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 1:00 pm
TomCat, thanks again for a great post. Re: Lynn's comment about married women; I know several who think differently than their husbands. One in particular says her husband will vote opposite of what she does, no matter what (he's a Republican). Some men just don't listen. Oh well..... We're fortunate some do.

James Maynard (84)
Wednesday November 21, 2012, 3:03 pm
Thanks Tom and all. Just started doing the jigsaws and
BOY am I slow!!!! Ha ha ha . Too embarrassing to even
post the time.... :)

Lloyd H (46)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 5:55 am
John McCain is showing all of the earmarks of Dementia except there is far too much planning an co-ordination in pure crap he Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte are trying to get away with. And just why has McCain become the default GOP leader on Foreign Policy when he has such an abysmal record of being wrong. The sore loser skipped a 3 hour classified briefing to hold a press conference bitching about not being informed. Can you say, "Intentional Ignorance". And it is beyond disgusting that he Defended Condi Rice for knowingly lying nearly every time she opened her mouth but when Susan Rice gives out the details provided by the CIA et alia, which were the same ones McCain was receiving at the same time from the same source, McCain , Graham and Ayotte attack her for incompetence, stupidity and lying.
As usual the simplest answer is usually the correct answer and that would be that McCain is still just plain pissed that Obama spanked his ass in 2008 and further outraged that Obama spanked Romney in 2012. There is nothing as bad as a sore loser except a double loser.

TomCat S (129)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 7:41 am
Thanks everyone!

Sheila, I feel for women married to Republicans.

Hang in there James.

Kudos to Lloyd!
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