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Will God Punish Us?

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TomCat S (128)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:51 am
From the perspective of the Theocon wing of the Republican Party, those Republicans who swear by their Constitutions, while completely ignoring them, America has committed a mortal sin. We have elected a Kenyan, Communist, Atheist, Socialist, Nazi, Muslim, who has abandoned God, to serve a second term as President.

Elle B (84)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:18 am
Republicans are an embarrassment to the eternal realms. . .even they do not have clue where the heck the GOP, et al, came from. . .

“I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe in that He ought to be whipped from pillar to post and back again for His shameful actions toward Humanity.” ― Benjamin Franklin, Wit and Wisdom from Poor Richard's Almanack

pam w (139)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:24 am
GREAT QUOTE, Elle! Sorry I'm out of stars for you this week!

Mythical beings cannot punish people.

And that's the truth.

Edwin M (346)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:36 am
I would think that God has already punished us, 8 years of George Bush and his administration Mitch McConnell and the 112th congress

Roseann d (178)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 11:47 am
No need, stupid humans are punishing themselves by destroying their own planet. Let's hope we don't figure out a way to get to a brand new shiny planet anytime soon. We haven't evolved to the point to deserve one with our"F" grade in Planet Management.

Chris C (152)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 12:11 pm
I highly doubt that Jesus Christ would be a Republican!

Onita Northington (44)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 12:12 pm
As I read in the paper someone commented that God don't like selfish. You're darn tootin' the ones that don't want to provide the poor and elderly with want they need such as enough food and medical care will most definitely be punished. If the rich that owned the businesses would pay the high muckety-mucks less and pay their employees more there wouldn't be so many poor people. There are too many people in this country that are just barely above what would qualify them to receive food stamps and other so called entitlements. In the 60s when I was a kid I remember my parents talking about freinds of theirs who made $12.00 per hour and that was big money, now you can't even afford rent on a decent apartment for that. Something needs to give.

Kit B (276)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 12:17 pm

Great picture - from the movie "Dogma" - still love Kevin Smith's movies.

If only we could give these self-centered folks an injection of empathy, things might begin to look better for the future of this country. I'm far less concerned about what any god will do and rest my concern with what the people will do. We can not allow the government to be fully in charge of the changes that must be made. It's our future, the future of the children of this country and the world. We each must step up and take responsibility for the changes we know must happen.

I grow weary already of the new "debate" - republicans will swap some tax increases for drastic cuts in the so-called entitlement programs. That is not a real "deal" on the table, it's the same old discussion with new lipstick on the that pig,

*My apology to pigs.

SuSanne P (193)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 12:18 pm
Thank you Tom Cat. I enjoyed the article as well as each person's share. I relate to your comment about the OLD TESTAMENT HATRED.

Tamara Hayes (185)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 12:31 pm
Hey Roseann, can I guess what the "F" stands for? God created our punishment when He created man. He just left it to us to carry it out. And so far, we have done an outstanding job!

Yvonne White (229)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 3:23 pm
Reich-wing "Christians" are hilarious! With a straight face & a forked tongue they preach Old Testament fire & brimstone (the Judeo part of Judeo-Christian religion) & embrace Sharia Laws for women while demonizing Islam… their's is a special Unbalanced balancing act & only they can hear those self-fulfilling prophecies of damnation! Jesus should come back & slap the $hit out of every last one of 'em!


greenplanet e (155)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 3:50 pm
Unfortunately some right-wing Christians take the Christian out of Christian.

And the grammar out of English "Unless you're poor, sick or elderly".

Shelly Peterson (213)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 4:16 pm
Kudos Yvonne!!!!!!!!!!!!

John B (185)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 7:45 pm
Thanks Tom for another great post and summation of the pseudo-Christian members of the Republican Party. Read and noted.

David C (29)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 10:15 pm
Can they not work it out, if there was a God and if he was on their side, why did they lose?

could it be that they lie, sin, and are not Christians?

Lynn S (235)
Monday November 26, 2012, 1:03 am
I am a practising Christian (I haven't got it right yet so I keep practising!) and I will not ram my faith nor religion — yes they are different — down some one's throat saying you must believe this. I do not appreciate others trying to ram their religion down my throat. And I'll bet that that is part of the reason that the founding fathers separated church and state in the constitution — they came mostly from Britain where there was great dissent between Catholics and Protestants, between Church of England and Puritans. At various times in the 16th century, people lost their lives because they were the wrong religion.

One of the two greatest of Christian commandments is to love your neighbour as yourself. But that is certainly not what I see from the Republican/Teabagger right wingnut evangelicals, the Supply-side Pseudo Christians, who wage war on the poor, war on women, war on minorities, war on the LGBT community, war on children. To me, these pseudo Christians are like a plastic bobble-head Jesus mounted on the car dash. Thank you Nameless for bringing up Matthew 25. Because it is one of several favourites of mine, I have reprinted it.

35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

Do you recognise any of this in the Republican/Teabagger party platform from the recent election? Do you recognise any of this from Paul Ryan's proposed budget? I certainly don't!

In Gypsy's link (Thanks Gypsy), the following:

Part of the evangelical identity, increasingly, was a pugnacious sense that they were being persecuted and should not be cowed into suppressing their faith. "I knew stating that there is no other Name by which an individual can be saved grate on some ears and prick some hearts," Franklin Graham wrote about his inaugural prayer in his book, "The Name." "However, as a minister of the gospel, I was not there to stroke the egos of men. My role was to acknowledge the all powerful One and please Him….I want to please my Father in heaven no matter the cost." The country's growing religious diversity left evangelical Protestants feeling more defensive and inclined to strut their theological stuff.

So these evangelicals felt they were being persecuted, became more defensive, and turned around and started doing the persecuting — demanding that their way, regardless whether others felt the same way or not, be the law of the land, the moral compass if you like. As such, it is an exclusive stand that has no room for Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, Animism or whatever faith someone has chosen to follow. But in my opinion, it is not true to the real Christianity, nor is it in keeping with the constitution.

One does not have to be religious, or a Christian to be a good person. A good person, in my opinion, will be a brother or sister to his neighbour, loving that neighbour, seeking justice, showing compassion and mercy to that neighbour.

Will God punish us? That I believe, as a person of faith, is a personal question that each must wrestle with in their own way. For an atheist, I believe that is a question of the individual conscience.

I have to say that the picture reminds me of a skit by Mike Warnke where he talks about driving down the highway near Brownsville Texas with a plastic bobble-head Jesus on the dash and the windshield wipers keeping time to some music.


P A (117)
Monday November 26, 2012, 2:39 am
Excellent article TC - and brilliant comments by everyone - I wish the computer would say my week was up and I could give out stars again! Lynn's comment was excellent.

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday November 26, 2012, 9:36 am
The only thing that gives me any hope in this world of the strong killing off the weak is this.....Karma Happens. I am only hanging around this plane of being to see that happen to the GOP, CEO's, Sociopaths (Rmoney, Kocks, et al) and those who give the word 'Religion' a really, really bad name (Fundies of all stripes). Then I can go and come back to dew yet another life ....I have several to do LOL. Great article, Tom.

Robert O (12)
Monday November 26, 2012, 12:42 pm
If he does punish us he should start with the conservatives first because it is their hatred, greed, selfishness, intolerance and obstructionism that has lead this country so far off track and on the path to fire and brimstone.

Janet G (0)
Monday November 26, 2012, 1:50 pm
Wow! Noted.

David C (129)
Monday November 26, 2012, 5:38 pm
good read, but first we have to ask "Is there a G-d?" "Assuming a G-d, wouldn't he be feeding the poor, housing the homeless, paying his taxes, healing the sick and showing humility?"

Stella Gamboni (17)
Monday November 26, 2012, 8:17 pm
I believe that GOP conservatives ARE God's punishment on the rest of us.

Carlene V (202)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 7:09 am
@ Yvonne White cannot currently send you a star but would send several if I could. Love your remark!!

If there is a God, he surely must be disappointed with right-wing phony Christians who clearly do not love their neighbor.

TomCat S (128)
Tuesday November 27, 2012, 7:12 am
Thanks everyone. Once again, I have no beef with Christianity. I am one. My beef is only with those who profess Christianity, but replace hope with fear, charity with greed, and love with hate.

Daniel A (2)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 11:56 am
I just spoke to God Almighty! She said that this talk of punishment is insane. She does not like to mix herself with politics. She does not believe in morality. She believes in ethics. To her, morality depends on belief in a deity and people do not know enough about her to guess what her long term goals are. However, she says that she gave us enough brains so that we could figure out an ethical structure which would do no harm. She said that a good beginning for behavior of humans is, "That which is hateful unto you, do not do unto others!" That is the Law. All else is commentary. Anyway that's what she told me 5 minutes ago.

Gloria p (304)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 8:29 am
Jesus said, "There is not a just person upon Earth that doeth good & sinneth not." He didn't say to go out of the way to be ingnorant, selfish, greedy, unkind, the republicans are.

Gene J (290)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 12:36 pm
""In the last four years, we have begun to turn our backs on God," he said. "We have taken God out of our education system. We have taken him out of government. You have lawyers that sue you every time you mention the name of Jesus Christ in any kind of a public forum."

As far as I know, President Barack Obama has done exactly jack-all in any of these areas. Graham and the other mega-evangelicals are quite certain that there is a war taking place on all these fronts; they are equally certain that it started four years ago, when President Scary Black Man took the reins from President Unmentionable."

Yeah, Franklin. He who wishes he were half the con man his father was. Google him, find out how HE spent his youth. And then found God again when he realized just how much flipping money his daddy made globe trotting and threatening everyone with hellfire and damnation. Franklin's only interest is in trying desperately to keep going the money machine his daddy built and his all consuming fear, about which he is absolutely correct, that he is not nearly the man his dad is, nor does he have the magnetic personality his father used to amass great wealth. If Franklin ever had an original thought it would scare the hell, pun intended, right out of him. Complete waste of space. He could write his entire message on a matchbook. Give me money or you go to hell. Brilliant strategy, worked for Billy, not going to work so well for Franklin. I don't give a rip what he's trying to atone for, I know a snake oil salesman when I see/hear one, and that is Franklin trying to get out from under Billy's shadow, something he will never manage to do, but will certainly make a lot of useless noise in the trying. Ridiculous man who doesn't know the first thing about spirituality. Should get back on his motorcycle and ride off into the sunset. Please.

Daniel A (2)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 2:00 pm
The problem with these "true believers" is that they have been too organized by their leaders. In teaching the History of Religion, My usual comment is that there is nothing wrong with religion per se. What kills religion is over-organization. Once the originator is gone, power struggles begin among the followers--and what separates them is "who is telling the truth about what was written or what was heard, and how to understand it". The winners get to tell the rest what "The Truth", as delivered by their god. So, we have hundreds, if not thousands of sects of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, et al. Each faction claims to be the purveyor of "The Word". Eventually, the factions view each other as "The Other" and that is where politics begins to intrude on religion and religion begins to intrude on politics, which results in the worst kind of outcome for humane beings. Religion is a matter of choice in a free society, and no one must be allowed to place their religious ideals above others. In a free society, All People are Created Equal.

Daniel A (2)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 2:09 pm
N.B. I would award stars to so many who posted here. I love Care2 and think that it is one of the most humane and wonderful group of people on the net. Kudos! Never stop your efforts in perfecting this world. That is our prime mission!

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday December 3, 2012, 5:43 am
Yeah, Yvonne, that was probably moi next to ya. LOL. That was life #6 I think. :) Can't send ya a star my friend but you know you are one to me!
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