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Boehner Desperate


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TomCat S. (285)
Monday December 3, 2012, 6:46 am
John Boehner (R-OH), aka Agent Orange, is showing frustration, because the dirty tricks, blackmail, and economic terrorism that worked do well for him after the 2010 elections, have failed to make headway against a far more resolute Obama. so Agent Orange doing what he does so well: trying to lie his way out of the corner.
 

Cheryl O. (82)
Monday December 3, 2012, 6:50 am
Liars are getting to be pretty common in the news. Seems when one politician gets caught doing it they start playing the blame game. It's almost like watching children fighting on the playground. TY Tom Noted
 

pam w. (187)
Monday December 3, 2012, 6:50 am
This man is ODIOUS!
 

John B. (215)
Monday December 3, 2012, 7:09 am
Thanks Tom for the post, video segment from Faux Noise and the link to Think Progress article. I like the "BullS++T" game idea but Faux news already has that in place. Read, viewed and noted.
 

Terrie Williams (753)
Monday December 3, 2012, 7:13 am
Poor little John,,,sigh,,,,he just looses it when the Prez has a boner for Boner.....heh heh eh....oh, c'mon, lighten up sheeeesh....it wasn't exactly potty mouthed ok. :)
 

Dave C. (204)
Monday December 3, 2012, 7:47 am
get money out of politics and we might see politicians back to working for the Everyperson rather than the wealthy elite....
 

Jim Phillips (3205)
Monday December 3, 2012, 8:06 am
Good comment here by TomCat:

"The thing we need to remember most is to reject Republican fear mongering. Adjourning with no deal and taking it up again in January is better that accepting a bad deal."

Ty, Tom.
.
 

Pat A. (117)
Monday December 3, 2012, 8:17 am
"The thing we need to remember most is to reject Republican fear mongering. Adjourning with no deal and taking it up again in January is better that accepting a bad deal."

I completely agree TC - and I hope people will have the sense to find out the truth too. WHEN will the GOP stop lying?!!
 

Tamara Noforwardsplz (185)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:06 am
Noted. Same old rhetoric, new day.
 

Gloria picchetti (279)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:15 am
The can threaten but I don't think the GOP has any wiggle room. Every conservative voter is not wealthy enough to suffer cuts on the benefits they worked for. Some of the wealthy ones are angry because they paid through the nose to support Romney. In GOP buried itself.
 

Beverly T. (82)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:21 am
The pay for being a rank and file member of the House or Senate is $174,000 per year. Majority and Minority Leaders get $193,400, Speaker of the House gets $223,500. If this is their only income....
NONE OF THEIR TAXES WOULD GO UP under the Obama proposal.
Of course we all know that these salaries for most of these folks is not their only income however...
I see this as further proof of who the Republicans are ACTUALLY WORKING FOR.
We have all wondered why would any Republican hold their own voters hostage...??
The leaders of their Party set the the example.
They don't even vote to uphold THEIR OWN INTERESTS !!!!!!
THIS IS JUST NUTS !!!!!
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:42 am
Oh, I wish that picture up here , was on every single billboard in the Country!!!...for at least the next 4 years!!!...then maybe, JUST MAYBE, the majority of the people that vote republican, WOULD CHANGE THEIR MINDS!!!...THAT WOULD GET THE MESSAGE OUT, BOTTOMLINE!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Beverly T. (82)
Monday December 3, 2012, 10:06 am
You're right Shelly
Though the bottom line should read...
AND DESTROY YOUR SOCIAL BENEFITS !!!!!
 

Edwin M. (366)
Monday December 3, 2012, 11:06 am
They were able to coerce him into doing what they wanted him to do in his first term but President Obama knows what the American people want and he won't allow himself to be bullied any longer.
 

Dorothy N. (63)
Monday December 3, 2012, 12:21 pm
Like everyone else, I'm going with the: ... "The thing we need to remember most is to reject Republican fear mongering. Adjourning with no deal and taking it up again in January is better that accepting a bad deal." ...idea - the only one that actually works,

And to Boehner - if it doesn't matter where the money comes from, then why shouldn't it come from the top 2% that impoverished the rest of the country?

The increase of starvation, homelessness and surrender of basic human rights in a prosperous democracy are surely more important to avoid than the continued pandering to those who plead greed!

How on earth can that argument work with ANYBODY, barring the greediest and most callously selfish of that 2%?
 

Dorothy N. (63)
Monday December 3, 2012, 12:26 pm
Disgusting man - just went back to look at some of the links on the article TomCat s. (thanks! as always!) linked to:

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/boehner-raising-debt-limit-will-always-come-with

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said that Congress will not give up control over the nation's debt limit and that each time the limit is raised, Congress will demand cuts and reforms, during an interview on "Fox News Sunday."

Congress is never going to give up this power. I've made it clear to the president that every time we get to the debt limit, we need cuts and reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit. It's the only way to leverage the political process to produce more change than what it would if left alone.



Clearly, the 'change' he wants is the destruction of the last vestige of democracy and a return to starvling serfdom for nearly all Americans!
 

Joe F. (0)
Monday December 3, 2012, 12:30 pm
The too tan man has a plan..... and you're not in it
 

Chris C. (131)
Monday December 3, 2012, 12:39 pm
I'm with TomCat! Boehner, (Mr Tan Man) is between a rock and a hard place...finally! Obama's got him by the...ummmmm - well, you know! HA!
 

Arielle S. (313)
Monday December 3, 2012, 12:48 pm
I love that President Obama has called on the people, both for help and to get them involved. "What does $2000 mean to you?" is something everyone can relate to - well, not Boehner but most everyone. It's a new day, it's a new way....and change is gonna come...
 

Thomas P. (459)
Monday December 3, 2012, 1:29 pm
Noted. Thanks TomCat. More people need to call their representatives, particularly in the house, and demand that they compromise. I'm not sure who these Republicans are "representing," but it is not the majority. Boehner needs to stop carrying water for the wealthiest and holding America hostage in the meantime. He and the teabaggers are responsible for America's credit rating being downgraded, and for the President's economic policies not working more quickly. He and the rest of the blackmailers need to compromise in good faith, or they need to go.
 

David C. (29)
Monday December 3, 2012, 1:41 pm
New billboard? (this is from me guys)

"YOU WILL PAY MORE TAXES BUT i WILL NOT (as I am rich and you are not) YOU KNOW THIS IS GOOD FOR ME!" John Boehner (R-OH)
 

Gene Jacobson (233)
Monday December 3, 2012, 1:57 pm
"The thing we need to remember most is to reject Republican fear mongering. Adjourning with no deal and taking it up again in January is better that accepting a bad deal."

Not desperate enough yet though. And still oblivious. The President holds all the cards here, Boehner's got squat. What he,and his party haven't yet realized, though how they could not is mind-boggling, is that if they do not agree to raising taxes on the top 2% they will be responsible for raising them on ALL taxpayers January 1st including the top 2%. Somehow I don't think that will escape the attention of the electorate even if the gop thinks it can soft shoe its way past it, they're wrong. Either compromise now or enrage the whole country. It isn't like people won't know exactly who is responsible for this mess. The President has a plan, the republican's have obstructionism. Not quite an equitable balance there. He'll cave, he'll have to, if not now, then in the beginning of the next Congress. Most people know when to fold a losing hand, but Boehner seems to think he can bluff his way to winning this pot and he can't, we've seen his cards and the hand is not a winner. Neither is Boehner...
 

Mary Alexander (23)
Monday December 3, 2012, 2:16 pm
This was in the Washington Post just about an hour ago:House Republican leaders on Monday endorsed a far-reaching plan to rein in the national debt that that would raise $800 billion in new tax revenue, slice $600 billion from federal health programs and apply a stingier measure of inflation to Social Security benefits. House Speaker John A. Boehner suggested that the framework Ė first laid out by Democrat Erskine Bowles during last yearís budget battles Ė should serve as a starting point for budget talks aimed at averting the year-end fiscal cliff. They are still trying to take away from those that need it most. down with the GOP!!!!

 

Lois Jordan (54)
Monday December 3, 2012, 2:22 pm
Pelosi stated today that she'd introduce a bill to continue the middle-class tax cuts only. The form she's presenting it is unusual since the Dems aren't the majority party. Apparently, anyone who opposes this bill, though, will have to their constituents to answer to for that vote.
 

janice b. (3)
Monday December 3, 2012, 2:38 pm
Tomcat --that was about as good a review as this following one from Krugman--

Democrats and republicans live in different intellectual and moral universes.
But donít we eventually have to match spending and revenue? Yes, we do. But the decision about how to do that isnít about accounting. Itís about fundamental values ó and itís a decision that should be made by voters, not by some committee that allegedly transcends the partisan divide.
Eventually, one side or the other of that divide will get the kind of popular mandate it needs to resolve our long-run budget issues. Until then, attempts to strike a Grand Bargain are fundamentally destructive.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Monday December 3, 2012, 2:59 pm
I loved "SoINeedAName"s comment! It says: ".I think the reason that republicans are in such a dither is that Pres. Obama is doing exactly what he told them he'd do during his entire campaign run against Romney.
Keeping your word by keeping your campaign promises is such a foreign concept to republicans, it has them totally flabbergasted." LOL!!!!:)

 

Shirley B. (5)
Monday December 3, 2012, 4:22 pm
Boner is writing his own epitaph - Going off this "fiscal cliff may be the only way our country can get back on track. I hope Obama holds his ground even as we go over the cliff. Voting these cretins out would take more education than we have lifetimes for. I answered the request about what 2000k means to me and I have to tell you I don't have a 6 figure income and all I got out of the Bush tax cuts was about $500 (enough to buy 4 tires for my old car). The next tax bracket got enough to buy their high school graduate a Lexus. The top tier got enough to buy my country, incorporate their businesses, send jobs offshore and lobby, lobby, lobby. I have Obama's back for whatever it takes to get our country to move FORWARD! Thanks for the post,Tomcat.
 

Roseann D. (175)
Monday December 3, 2012, 4:36 pm
I LOVE it when Boehner is desperate! Keep the GOP on the ropes!
 

Roseann D. (175)
Monday December 3, 2012, 4:39 pm
Never forget how the GOP lied throughout the presidential campaign. No reason to start believing them now. Their credibility is SHOT, and don't let the stereotype of American's short term memory ring true when it comes to politics. It's not even a month after the election.
 

Ray M. (0)
Monday December 3, 2012, 5:21 pm
Boehner's desperate about keeping his own job. Maybe now he knows how the jobless feel, ya think? NOT. He and his repugnant, ruthless cohorts couldn't care less about the unemployed, the poor and middle-class and our measly little problems. RepubliCONS only care about themselves and their lobbyist pimps who keep them in office even if it is by Grover's blackmailing tactics.
 

Michael Carney (205)
Monday December 3, 2012, 5:38 pm
I hope he doesn't start crying, or that fake tan is going to start running down his face...I'd like to offer Speaker Boehner a small piece of advice...Hey John! Go f**k yourself...Sorry I've been wanting to say that for two years...lol
 

Carmen S. (606)
Monday December 3, 2012, 6:03 pm
Thanks Tom, something needs to be done about him and all the others who are completely out of touch with the needs of the average American.
 

JL A. (269)
Monday December 3, 2012, 6:57 pm
Before Boehner caved to the TeaParty contingency in 2010, many in the media were observing that he is a Catholic and votes to harm the poor are at odds with his church's teachings and directives...wonder whether a faith-based coalition will be seeing whether his conscience is bothering him...
 

Lynn Squance (219)
Monday December 3, 2012, 7:52 pm
@ JLA --- Is hurting the poor at odds with Catholic teaching? I ask this question only because the Vatican (Pope & co) chastised the American nuns for working with the poor when the Vatican wanted them doing the Church's gay bashing and I believe anti abortion work or anti contraception work. A faith based coalition --- hmmmm. Given that the fanatical evangelical right wingnut pseudo Christians are so vocal, and it appears quite numerous, I don't know that there could be a faith based coalition to prick his conscience. The other thing, it presumes Boehner has a conscience . . . let alone one than can be influenced by anything other than GREED. I know he is the Weeper of the House, but I guess I'm getting really cynical in my old age because I truly wonder if he isn't just feigning such displays.
 

Camila K. (141)
Monday December 3, 2012, 8:34 pm
Karma sucks for him, Mr. Narcissist. How embarrassing, and how perfectly karma works.
 

Lynn Squance (219)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:07 pm
It was everywhere. "I found it!" Well I do believe that Mr Obama found it too, or rather them! . . . a set of BRASS balls! And Boehner doesn't like that. I believe he may well end up officially being the Weeper of the House by the time that the fiscal speed bump negotiations are over.

So Mr Obama did learn something, but the Republican/Teabaggers don't like what he learned. The Huffington Post reported that Boehner said there had been no progress. I suspect what he really meant was that there had been no progress that the Republican/Teabaggers found acceptable. And now he is crowing on Faux Noise with Chris Wallace. "What difference does it make where we get the money?" Boehner said. Well, by my reckoning, and I am no economist, it does matter where the money comes from. The Republican/Teabaggers have talked about closing loopholes. But what loopholes? There is scuttlebutt of doing away with mortgage interest and charitable donations, loopholes that the middle class and the wealthy use. But in that case, the real job creators, the middle class, get it in the neck since such a plan would impact them to a much greater degree. Life's a bitch eh John!

Just love the Think Progress "three myths". It catches Boehner with his bare face hanging out! He claims that Mr Obama has not put detail in his plan, yet the FY2013 budget that was out in February 2012 for discussion, and much of the current proposal was out in October 2012, have the details, more details than any Republican/Teabagger plan.

As you have said TC, "Adjourning with no deal and taking it up again in January is better that accepting a bad deal."

So what if the brass is a little scuffed! It is for the people!

 

Edith B. (141)
Monday December 3, 2012, 9:15 pm
Boehner will cry until he goes home and I hope that is soon. The Republicans in both the House and the Senate do not represent 98% of their constituents, it is a mystery to me how they stay in office. I hope the President holds the line and lets us go off the fiscal cliff. As TC says, they will scramble when that happens. Let them explain to all their constituents that they are responsible for the tax increases.
 

Susanne R. (248)
Monday December 3, 2012, 10:50 pm
Early in the interview, Boehner asks "does it matter where the money comes from?" and then goes on to state that it can't come from the wealthiest Americans because it will hurt the economy. The Republicans must have an awful lot riding on protecting the wealthy! They'll lie, cry, and abandon their integrity to protect their corporate masters. What pitiful creatures they are!
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 5:00 am
Thanks.
 

John Gregoire (248)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 6:44 am
Best compromise is to let the Bush era tax cuts expire for everyone. I wish they would stop wasting time and posturing (both sides) and get on with elimnating loopholes and fixing the tax code.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 7:12 am
Bloviating ignoramus! Boehner is and has been a total incompetent at his job which is not a big surprise considering that he was known even before becoming Speaker as spending more time playing golf and drinking in club houses than actually doing the job he was HIRED to do. Boehner plays between 100 and 120 rounds of golf while the House is in session that is one day out of three. In 2009 via his PAC, Freedom Project- evidently freedom from work project, he spent $82,998 on golf. Now if you add to his aversion to actually doing work his inability to actually do math or come up with an idea you get a Boehner in a corner. So far his proposals are 1) the Romney/Ryan tax and budget plan that cost them the election, 2) the Ryan Voucher Medicare and Privatize Social Security Budget versions 2011 and 2012 which have math that simply does not work even when the 98% pays all the bills and 3) A version of the Bowles Proposal that even Bowles says is crap. Boehner and the Repug/Tea Bagged servants of Norquist are going to have to wake up to the fact that they LOST the election mainly because the economics suck enough to lower the sea level globally. His last "proposal" trys the Loophole trick that does not add up and then continues on with fussy math cuts that offer no specifics and base "savings and revenue" on pie in the sky fantasy projected job creation and economic growth that are simply unjustified and endorsed by not even the most partisan Repug economists. In short Boehner is incompetent, lazy, frequently AWOL on a golf course and just plain bad at the job of Speaker. And you can add to that the unicorn he rode in one has thrown a shoe and he can not remeber which Club House he left his magic wand for fixing economic numbers.
 

Kit B. (277)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 6:27 pm

Sure let the middle class and working class carry the load, because the "job creators" are.....doing what? They sure as hell are not creating jobs. Just what is it they do that builds this country? These super wealthy, non creative over paid, and obviously incompetent, job killers do what again?
Close the loop holes, raise the taxes and tax them. No debates, no discussions - I've have enough. If the Congress wants a fight, I believe more than 600 of us can give them a show down. I'm thinking that Occupy needs to do a "sit-in" on the step of the Capitol building in DC - every day till this nonsense ends.
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 7:29 pm
Kit, YOU ROCK!!!! zillions of green stars to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...(and so many others!)
 

TomCat S. (285)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 7:00 am
Thanks everyone. The new deal Agent Orange offered id a non starter. In a while I'[ll upload Open Threads for yesterday and today that cover it.
 
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