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David C (29)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 5:08 am
Nixon a Republican, that was so so easy to forget!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 6:15 am

P A (117)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 10:10 am
I saw that Limbaugh and Co are going to be leaving the airwaves but WHERE are they going to next? They won't stop pushing their message of hatred and loathing in the foreseeable future, as far as I can see.

Glad to see you are supporting the Fast Food Workers strike, TC. I signed a petition to support that earlier today, there are several about, I'm glad to see.

Jim P (3257)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 10:39 am

Deb E (63)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 11:01 am
Unbelievable ... cities go broke and toss retirees, most of whom had never paid into Social Security or Medicare, into the new Obamacare that Republicans have been trying to get rid of since he brought it up. The benefits that were supposed to have been paid to these city workers were part of their salaries. There are going to be a ton of people hurting from this. That article said that people joining these insurance "co-ops" (my term) might pay $4275.00 per year as 52% of the entire annual premium. What? That means that the monthly premium is around $700.00. Who can afford that kind of money for health insurance? And I know for a fact that it is much higher for many people. Health care should not be a multi billion dollar industry. No more than fire protection or police protection should be. Why would the citizens of a country NOT want to allow for the people who live there to be healthy???? This entire thing just boggles my mind, that the health care industry and pharmaceuticals are the fastest growing "industries" in this country.

I cannot believe that the communications company called the radio show hosts "talent" ...

I got a quote for replacing the old, leaking shower hardware ... the stuff inside the wall ... and was quoted $90.00 an hour labor and $230.00 for parts. It would take about 4 hours to take all the old out and put in the new. It's no wonder that retired people can't afford to own homes anymore!!! You can't pay to get anything fixed and you are too crippled up to do it yourself. $90.00 an hour for a plumber?????????? My point of this is, how in the world can a plumber think it is okay to charge that kind of money when minimum wage in this country is $7.00 an hour? If a plumber worked a 40 hour work week at $90.00 a hour, they'd be bringing in $14,400.00 A MONTH!! PUUUUULEEEEEAAASE!!!! Even at $35.00 an hour, a plumber would make $5600.00 a month. Isn't that a decent wage???? How in the world can anyone think that people who make less than $10.00 an hour could ever afford to pay the plumber? This country is just so messed up.

Jim P (3257)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 11:06 am
The Nation: Signed several petitions to support the strikers. Here, in Sonoma, there have been no strikes against the few fast food chains in town. I don't patronize them.

New York Times: The banks will take the monies owed to them and the people who live in Detroit will get stuck with the remaining bills. And the blacks will lose their rights to vote.

Aternet: Glad to see that Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity will be booted out of the Cumulus Media and, maybe soon, from Clear Channel as well. They will find a "home" somewhere...

Cartoon: Good thing that bushy was not impeached although he should have been. Look who would have become President, next in line: Dick Cheney. That was a very scary thought! Brrrrr...

Ty, Tom.

Arielle S (313)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 11:52 am
Yeah, Jim, only the thought of Cheney as Prez kept Bush reality, they BOTH should have gone off to that place in Cuba....

Mitchell D (104)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 12:09 pm
Bush can still, technically, be impeached, as can Cheney. It is not going to happen, and at this point, I would argue that it ought not, as the Repugs would have a new issue with which to make hay.
And, while Pelosi is not of the House, it was in part because she gave Bush"Carte Blanche," after 9/11, that it never even came up.
BUT, can we petition for a House Ethics committee investigation into Mr. Speaker Boehner's apparent conflict of interest regarding his investment around Keystone XL?

I don't know why no one called me to help put up that sign, in 1974, I may just have been willing to walk to D.C. for it! That piece of pond scum set the stage for the depths to which the GOP has descended since then. Karl Rove probably has an altar to him, in his house.

Mitchell D (104)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 12:22 pm
This is one of the things that I have trouble getting my mind around: how was he re-elected, and at the time, it was reported that some 10-12% of my/our fellow Americans thought he was doing just a fine job, right up to the bitter end!
Sadly, I have my understanding about how Reagan got re-elected, bigotry and greed. G.W. never got elected, as far as I'm concerned, so he does not fit into the conversation.

Pat B (356)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 1:42 pm
Good for the workers striking, I don't go to any of those fast foods. Hope all is good, thanks, Tom, take care.

Mary H. (0)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 1:44 pm
I followed all this and was addicted to the whole series of events. He should have been impeached and removed from office. I think part of the reason was it happened right after the agony of Viet-Nam. The nation was hurt, lost and afraid. I suppose it was the devil you know as opposed to the one you don't. It was a blight on American presidential history. And. I could not comprehend it all when he was given amnesty by President Ford. That sent me screaming in my head. I remember that I listened to medieval music for days just to keep my sanity!!

David C (133)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 2:08 pm

Dianna M (16)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 2:59 pm
Awww, Rush and Sean are getting the boot? I'm crushed. (Wipes away imaginary tear.)

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 4:06 pm

Dotti L (85)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 6:12 pm
I do not frequent fast food joints, but the workers certainly deserve a fair wage. Me too,Dianna, wiping away imaginary tears. I hate to say that I hate anybody, but I surely do dislike them intensely.

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 6:40 pm
Thanks for the good news, Tom, on everything but poor Detroit. That is just a terrible mismanagement by those in charge. Those who broke the system should be criminally charged and made to pay the price, not those who have been so adversely affected.
Glad to know that Limpbag & Hannity will lose this one. I don't pay attention to them, but there are many who live by their twisted words. I've been signing petitions & sending letters supporting the fast food workers, and am very glad to see this movement gain such wonderful momentum around the country.

Lynn S (235)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 8:03 pm
Puzzle 4:55 Are these the kind used for pulling teeth?

The Nation I too will stand in solidarity! I very rarely eat there (last time was a couple of months ago) but I almost hit McD's this morning as I took my big boy to the vet's. More on that later.

NY Times And if the Republicanus/Teabaggers succeed in repealing the ACA (God forbid!) where does that put these people who have been "moved over"? Nevertheless, Republicanus/Teabaggers, ever the hypocrites.

Alternet I am sooooooo lucky that I don't have to listen to their drivel and lies.

Cartoon But Nixon gave them the slip and resigned 09 August 1974 before any impeachment. This from Wikipedia about his resignation speech:

"Nixon's speech contained no admission of wrongdoing, and was termed "a masterpiece" by Conrad Black, one of his biographers. Black opined that "What was intended to be an unprecedented humiliation for any American president, Nixon converted into a virtual parliamentary acknowledgement of almost blameless insufficiency of legislative support to continue. He left while devoting half his address to a recitation of his accomplishments in office." "

Interesting that Conrad Black was convicted in the US of mail fraud and obstruction of Justice. From crook to crook.

Personal My cat, Primo, went to the vet's today and it turns out he has an abscessed anal gland on top of being constipated. So it was subQ fluids and another bit to help him poop, a pain injection and more medicine that I have to give several times a day. Now I have to watch for him to poop, bathe his bumb with warm water and epsom salts compresses, and give him anti-biotics. His appetite ha never flagged and he is looking fairly spry, but I am still very worried about him. The other two seem to know that something is wrong and are giving him some loving attention. Would appreciate good thoughts or prayers for my big guys speedy and trouble free recovery. Thanks

Edith B (146)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 9:42 pm
I only eat fast food when I am travelling, but have signed several petitions supporting the fast food workers. Ihope they prevail.w

James Maynard (84)
Tuesday July 30, 2013, 10:42 pm
Thanks TC!

TomCat S (129)
Wednesday July 31, 2013, 3:10 am
Thanks everyone.

Deb, the $90/hour you paid to the plumbing company helped cover the overhead of an office warehousing an extensive inventory of parts, the vehicle and vehicle maintenance, and profit for the owner of the company. So you can't treat it is though it were wages.

Mitchell, at this point they should be criminally charged. He was reelected, because Republicans controlled the e-voting machines in several states.

Patricia H. (440)
Wednesday July 31, 2013, 3:17 am

Lona G (80)
Wednesday July 31, 2013, 5:14 am
Kudos to the striking workers of the fast food restaurants.

TomCat S (129)
Thursday August 1, 2013, 1:21 am
Thank you both!
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