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Open Thread - 8/17/2013

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Danuta W (1250)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 2:57 am

Sue Matheson (79)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 3:33 am

Gene J (290)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 6:27 am
"From NY Times: …Put it all together, and it’s a discouraging picture. We have an ill-informed or misinformed electorate, politicians who gleefully add to the misinformation and watchdogs who are afraid to bark."

Well. There is hardly anything to add to that. It IS the state of our union, except maybe for the Congress which follows the Do-Nothing but lie track. The sad part is that Paul's right, our watchdogs are toothless and afraid to bark, but for a few who are already in jail or being chased for shining the light of truth on our governments nefarious doings. We are a pale imitation of the Republic we once were and seem to have no principles whatsoever and our one talent is chasing our own tail which any pup can do better.

Arielle S (313)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 7:34 am
Darn it, Gene, I could send you a star just about every hour! Can't send you another yet but you and Tom are both spot on - we are a mess and not much is going to change until we vote out those pathetic, greedy, heartless, miserable excuses for human beings who pretend to do our bidding. At this point, all we can do is keep spreading the truth and exposing the lies - a full time job for all of us!

Terrie Williams (798)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 7:43 am
I fear we are almost to past the point of no return and voting is not going to turn the tide....if the Rethugs/Bagger Fascists have their way with the voting venues.

Winnie Adams (179)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 7:45 am
Vote all republicans out of office in every state at every opportunity.

Kit B (276)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 8:01 am

Putin didn't have to start a Tea Party in Russia, he is relying an older form of crazy the one that made him the new czar of Russia. The old totalitarian communist party. Though it does not and has not ever had any similarity to the idea of communism as proscribed by Karl Marx. These "propaganda" laws are more than just Putin, but come from the various areas government by strong arm selected bosses and filter up to Putin. That makes it look as though Putin is actually doing what the people want. Between the very hard line arch conservative and unrelenting dogma of the Eastern Orthodox Church and the deeply entrenched desire of complete control of the people by the government, freedom of the individual doesn't stand a chance.

I doubt that Russia will see another Gorbachev any time in the foreseeable future, which is very sad for the Russian people. As it seems we will still be sending our athletes to Russia and some will be in harm's way, perhaps the next best form of protest is for both the athletes and visitors to not be productive tourists and keep their money in their pockets.

Thanks TC.

David C (129)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:22 am
continues to amaze me how many are willing to vote for the GOP

Joanne D (38)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 1:23 pm
I believe our watchdogs are toothless and afraid to bark BECAUSE of the few who are already in jail or being chased. They wanted to make examples of them, and it's working, damn it.

Sheila D (28)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 1:24 pm
Love the "cartoon". How true! Thanks for the post, TomCat.

James Maynard (84)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 3:09 pm
Thanks TC!

Birgit W (160)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 4:36 pm

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday August 17, 2013, 11:47 pm
Puzzle — 3:40 Jerry, I'm off chasing those big fluffy clouds!

Daily Kos — 30 – 60 attended. That's 30 – 60 who obviously either were bored out of their gourds, or 30 – 60 who's collective brains would fit in a thimble with plenty of room left over! Would someone please crazy glue this morons jaws shut so that he can't pollute the air around him with his racist and discriminatory bear scat!

NY Times — Two of the truest statements ever.

…Instead, they rely on what they hear from authority figures. The problem is that much of what they hear is misleading if not outright false.`

The outright falsehoods, you won’t be surprised to learn, tend to be politically motivated. In those 1996 data, Republicans were much more likely than Democrats to hold false views about the deficit, and the same must surely be true today.``

Why anyone would rely on a politician as an "authority figure" and expect that politician not to be politically motivated is beyond me. Look at some of the politicians — gynaecologists, eye doctors, lawyers — they might be fine in their own fields (although I have some doubts about that too!), but that does not make them able to explain economics etc. Hell, wasn't it Rand Paul, an eye doctor by trade, who made reference to someone only to be reminded that that person was dead!

And politically motivated? The past 5 years have been Republicanus/Teabagger obstruction, politically motivated because they don't like having a black president — it offends their racist views.

If people want good explanations, they should be listening to educated non partisans like Paul Krugman and Robert Reich.

Think Progress — “Blackmun: We encourage our athletes to work within Russian law, …". Huh? The Russian law is against international human rights law, not to mention against the rule 6 of the Olympics which covers non discrimination based on gender, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, race etc. Blackmun should be upholding the Olympic Charter and rules in his position as the US IOC representative, not his own personally held views.

Cartoon — That elephant should be `white, blue, red` on his lapel! Russian Tea Party indeed!

TomCat S (128)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 3:02 am
Thanks everyone. Running out of gas.

Lona G (79)
Sunday August 18, 2013, 6:20 am
Thanks TomCat, loved your Putin cartoon.

TomCat S (128)
Monday August 19, 2013, 1:56 am
Wrong again, John. I will not vote out Ron Wyden, Jeff Merkley, and Earl Blumenhauer. They are all progressive. Even if they were DINO's, a DINO is better than a Bagger.

YVW Lona, and thank you!
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