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Reinventing St. Ronnie Ray Gun

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TomCat S (129)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 2:42 am
When Republicans want support for their travesty de jour, they attribute it to the patron saint of the Republican Party, St. Ronnie Ray Gun. St Ronnie wore a white hat, rode a white horse, and could do no wrong. That St. Ronnie may have been or done the exact opposite, matters not, because they have the Republican Reichsministry of Propaganda, Faux Noise, to parrot their lies. Now they are claiming how St. Ronnie would NEVER gave allowed chemical weapons use.

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 2:46 am
Sometimes I wonder if Republicanus/Teabaggers don't worship at the alter of St Ronnie Ray Gun 5 times a day! St Ronnie was a blistering fool, and obviously this Republicanus/Teabagger is too stupid to check her facts. I hope this comes back to bite her in the ass!

As I recall, Hussein used chemical weapons on Iranian soldiers and civilians, but also on Kurds in Iraq. He was just as bad as Al-Assad. Given St Ronnie's complicity in providing the expertise and components of the chemical weapons, he is another Republicanus that should have been tried at The Hague for war crimes. I wonder if St Peter got him at the pearly gates and sent him south to the land of excessive heat?

Carrie B (306)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 3:38 am
I do so love how the GOP/TP rewrite history to suit their own propaganda needs.

Tamara Hayes (185)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 5:40 am
Repuklicons just love to marinate in their own stew of lies! We actually have twice the number of Repuklicons in the Senate because they are all so two-faced. St. Ronnie my ass!

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 6:16 am

pam w (139)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 6:22 am
Remember that we in California SCOFF at the worship of Ronnie. WE knew he was only an actor--and a very wooden one at that!

Gene J (290)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 6:32 am
Yeah, what I remember from my early life about Ronnie was he hosted Death Valley Days on tv on Saturday nights, then did the same in DC from 1980 to 1988. Oh, he and Clint Eastwood also mopped the floor with the monstrous threat to world peace that was Grenada. Then, he had Ollie North do some rather awful things. A saint he was not. He even used Keynesian economics to improve our economy, I wonder how Faux Nausea and the republican party can oppose those principles now given that their patron saint believed in them. I mean, I know it is because they can't stand the thought of an economic recovery under a Democratic president, but what just never stops puzzling me is how they live with the hypocrisy of what they say and what the truth actually is. Then again, lies ARE their real business, so...

Carlene V (202)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 7:43 am
As a Californian I am repulsed by both Ronnie and Arnold. How dumb were the voters who put them in office? Faux noise has no one in recent history to throw out there so they dug deep and put out Ronnie who raised taxes how many times? The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

@ Tamara Hayes - Well said!

P A (117)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 8:09 am
Was Ronnie a better actor than his B list status lead us to expect or is it just that they can fool such a large amount of the populace at any one time? Very good Think Progress article TC many thanks.

Kit B (276)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 8:19 am

While we are pointing fingers, we might also remember that the United States also has dirty hands. I don't believe anyone would call the use of Agent Orange any thing but chemical weapons.

I remember the guy from Death Valley Days selling us soap, he continued to that during his years as governor of California and by the time he became president he had bubbles erupting from his mouth.

Let's just review some actual history ---
April 18, 1983: A suicide bomber in a pickup truck loaded with explosives rammed into the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon. Sixty-three people were killed, including 17 Americans, eight of whom were employees of the Central Intelligence Agency, including chief Middle East analyst Robert C. Ames and station chief Kenneth Haas. Under Saint Reagan our actions were as follows; The U.S. government took no military action in response to the embassy bombing, although, according to retired Marine Lt. Col. Bill Cowan, a covert military team entered Beirut in order to gather intelligence in preparation for retaliatory strikes.

October 23, 1983; A suicide bomber detonated a truck full of explosives at a U.S. Marine barracks located at Beirut International Airport; 241 U.S. Marines were killed and more than 100 others wounded. They were part of a contingent of 1,800 Marines that had been sent to Lebanon as part of a multinational force to help separate the warring Lebanese factions. The president assembled his national security team to devise a plan of military action. The planned target was the Sheik Abdullah barracks in Baalbek, Lebanon, which housed Iranian Revolutionary Guards believed to be training Hezbollah fighters. Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger aborted the mission, reportedly because of his concerns that it would harm U.S. relations with other Arab nations. Instead, President Reagan ordered the battleship USS New Jersey, stationed off the coast of Lebanon, to the hills near Beirut. The move was seen as largely ineffective.
Four months after the Marine barracks bombing, U.S. Marines were ordered to start pulling out of Lebanon. The action was no action.
December 12, 1983; The American embassy in Kuwait was bombed in a series of attacks whose targets also included the French embassy, the control tower at the airport, the country's main oil refinery, and a residential area for employees of the American corporation Raytheon. Six people were killed, including a suicide truck bomber, and more than 80 others were injured. The suspects were thought to be members of Al Dawa, or "The Call," an Iranian-backed group and one of the principal Shiite groups operating against Saddam Hussein in Iraq. The U.S. military took no action in retaliation.

March 16, 1984; CIA Station Chief William Buckley kidnapped. U.S. officials believed that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah was behind most of the kidnappings and the Reagan administration devised a covert plan. Iran was desperately running out of military supplies in its war with Iraq, but Congress had banned the sale of American arms to countries like Iran that sponsored terrorism. Reagan was advised that a bargain could be struck -- secret arms sales to Iran, hostages back to the U.S. The plan, when it was revealed to the public, was decried as a failure and anathema to the U.S. policy of refusing to negotiate with terrorists.

Sept. 20, 1984 In Aukar, northeast of Beirut, a truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. Embassy annex killing 24 people, two of whom were U.S. military personnel. According to the U.S. State Department's 1999 report on terrorist organizations, elements of Hezbollah are "known or suspected to have been involved" in the bombing. President Reagan and the CIA called off covert operations when Lebanese intelligence operatives -- some allegedly trained by the U.S. -- set off a car bomb on March 8, 1985, in an attempted murder of Sheik Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the Shiite Muslim cleric who some believed to be the spiritual leader of Hezbollah. Over 80 people were killed in the attack near a Beirut mosque. Fadlallah survived.

Dec. 3, 1984 Kuwait Airways Flight 221, on its way from Kuwait to Pakistan, was hijacked and diverted to Tehran. The hijackers demanded the release of the Kuwait 17. When the demand wasn't met, the hijackers killed two American officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development. On the sixth day of the drama, Iranian security forces stormed the plane and released the remaining hostages.

Now I could go on with this display of totally inept actions by the Reagan administration during the 1980's and frankly no one knows how well or poorly proper military action might have been. Personally, I'm really tired of hearing what Reagan did as the valiant modern day white prince, because that myth holds no water. I will say this, Reagan was nearly brilliant at using the camera and a wink and smile to persuade the audience that this grandfatherly image was taking care of them. In fact, that like all of Reagan was a contrived image.

Sorry about the rant, TC but this worship of a rusted god is extremely annoying.


divergent revolution (309)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 9:34 am
Agree with Pam
We haven't forgotten his pot parties
A bigger hypocrite, idk????

Deb E (63)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 9:35 am
I bet most of them still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, too. I was native born Californian and when Reagan got elected as President, everyone I knew was in total shock. The guy was an actor (a cheesy one, at that) who got a part. That is when I figured out that the Republicon Party was hiring puppets to do their bidding. They adore him because under his reign, they were able to begin The Great American Takeover.

David C (133)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 10:18 am
w/r RayGun, I am still amazed how sainted and idolized he is, yet he wouldn't be RayGun or Conservative enough to be nominated now.......mythical RayGun is like mythical Jesus that the GOP Christian Cons claim for their side....

Arielle S (313)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 10:48 am
Great rant, Kit - of course, with their selective memory, Republicans remember none of that stuff. And all I (care to) remember about Ronnie was that he started every sentence with, "well....." But then, who else can Republicans use on their altar? Certainly not George W. At least, Ronnie could speak with compound sentences.

Jason R (67)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 11:22 am
Misinformation up the...

Reagan rates up there with mabusH as one of the worse presidents, ever.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 12:40 pm
I'm really sorry I clicked on this one while trying to eat. Now forewarned, I'll have to come back later.

Louise D (44)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 2:44 pm
Old Bonzo being wheeled out again, you would get the impression that in 2016 they will be trying to reanimate Reagan's corpse using all sorts of witch craft and so Reagans back but Reagans changed, Reagan's hungry for Republican's brains ... Zombie Reagan ... Zombie Reagan. He's down in the cellar he's hungry again, Nancys says she can cope if she don't knows their names she dresses in black as it hides the stains.
Reagan was a hypocrite and a monster who made the world a far more dangerous place to live in. the Republicans continuing need to transmogrify Ronald Reagan in order to gin up an excuse only underscores how morally impoverished, intellectually bankrupt and justifiably discredited the conservative movement is right now.

Robert K (31)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 2:57 pm
The only good things I can say about Ronnie is that when he was a liberal Democrat he made sense and the other is that he wasn't as bad as Dumbya. But he wasn't all that much better.

Robert K (31)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 3:04 pm
Ronnie the tough guy actually did have a couple roles done well, but he didn't live up to the tough guy myth. He ran like the sissy he was from Lebanon and then to make the kool aid drinkers to accept him he attacked Grenada. Cool, the country with the most powerful military in the world against a country with no military at all to speak of makes you tough? My old platoon could have overpowered Grenada.

I met Reagan during the 1980 campaign and what I found was a warm, friendly bigot without a clue. And I said at the time that I thought he had Alzheimers . Not happy I was right, but at least it may explain some of his issues. He didn't start out stupid, but he got that way before going into politics.

JL A (281)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 4:36 pm
Ronnie remade himself so often...leader of student demonstrations in Kansas, leader of union in Hollywood who turned fellow actors in to Joe McCarthy's witchhunt., was a democrat when married to Jane Wyman and switched parties when he married Nancy and competed with Hayakawa for who would fall asleep first at Chancellor's Office meetings and as Governor had a very bad hair dye job on his sideburns...a chameleon with an instinct for self-interest

Mike M (43)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 5:56 pm
Ronnie was a actor and he acted and spews the stuff they told him to say using the same methods as the used on Mr. Ed.

Jamie Clemons (282)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 6:58 pm
Ronald Reagan was responsible for the trickle down economics that is destroying our nation. He was responsible for the mentally ill being turned out on the streets as homeless people.

James Maynard (84)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 9:35 pm
Paul Joseph Goebbels would have been envious
of the way the GOP has sanitized and saintitized
the horrendous actions of Mr. Reagan - and he
was damn good.

Edith B (146)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 9:43 pm
He sold chemical weapons to Iraq, he raised taxes on us, not the wealthy, and he broke the unions. Of course the Republicans consider him a saint.

TomCat S (129)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 1:50 am
Thanks to all, and kudos to many, especially Kit.

Lloyd H (46)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 8:05 am
For all of the Repug/Tea Bagged revisonist history relating to DuhDubya and Jelly Bean Brain they fail to mention that Reagan could not survive a single Repug/Tea Bagged primary today and Bush dear god they will not even say his name in public.

Jason R (67)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 9:09 am
"He had his faults as we all do"?

Talk about denial! You call the republican downward spiral of a nation a fault? That's just crazy blind to reality, John.

And you didn't answer me when I asked how you med bills went way up. Is that because you were so casually lying?

Dotti L (85)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 12:33 pm
As an ex-Californian, I totally agree with Carlene. I take comfort in being able to say "I did not vote for them."

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 3:52 pm
To add to Jason R, I would not define leadership by including "you would not hear of it until it happened." To me that is tyranny, not leadership.

divergent revolution (309)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 5:18 pm
aside from scandals like iran Contra which was plain awful, even his daughter admits the man had fiull blown alzheimers his whole second term,he was just a talking head reading a script!

Winn A (179)
Sunday September 8, 2013, 7:07 pm
Vote all republicans out of office in every state at every opportunity.

TomCat S (129)
Monday September 9, 2013, 2:59 am
Thanks everyone. John, ya gotta stop smoking that InsaniTEA!
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