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Open Thread - 10/1/2013


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Pat A. (116)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 4:47 am
Do any Americans (with fully functioning brains) actually realise what is going on and why? I have to say that the rest of the world is struggling – why is the rest of the government allowing the GOP/TP to throw their toys out of the pram and viciously harm those who cannot defend themselves, ie the sick, the weak, the disabled, the elderly…. They really disgust me – the GOP/TP ran up huge bills for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan – and now they are defaulting on their debts as well as making the vulnerable of society suffer!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 6:39 am

The reasonable republicans, those who are in the Congress to work with government to achieve their goals have said they would vote yes on the Senate or CR. The Speaker is cowed by about 70- 80 members of the House that are anti-government ideologues. We really have no history to address these people, the Speaker could wisely ignore them and allow the vote. For goodness sake the darn thing is only good for 2 months. Alas, we do not a have wise Speaker, not even a brave one. Over the past couple of weeks we have all been treated to reading or seeing just who these hold outs are. What a group of ignorant people. The least they could is learn how the government functions.

By mid-October the House must once again begin negotiations for the debt ceiling. This is not something to be taken lightly. If these morons are allowed the same level of influence our entire economy and our place in the world is at risk. *

Please folks, call your Senators and House Representatives - tell them to end this now, to just this once, work with the president and the Senate to find a solid compromise. The debt ceiling following a shut down is not something to be taken lightly.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 7:02 am
Sorry I can't send you another star yet, Kit - why, o, why can't the rest of the world be as reasonable as you are?
It is a sad fact that most people pay no attention until it affects them.....odd how those who are so against government control (as they put it) are so willing to allow a handful of morons dictate the direction of the country.... which right now appears to be downward....
 

Lona Goudswaard (77)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 7:25 am
In a nutshell: many Republicans either don’t understand this or don’t care.
And considering it affects the poor, disabled and weak the most, my guess is the latter. They couldn't give a toss.

I just read in our newspaper that the EPA is sending 96% of its personnel on leave. So after all this is over there's not only a political and financial mess to clean up, but the environment - yet another poor, disabled an weak entity - will need a thorough clean-up after big money has pulled all the stop(per)s out while nobody was watching.

I don't believe, so praying won't help. You're on your own, America.
 

Robert B. (58)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 7:49 am
I have noted with dismay that most people around me where I live are totally clueless as to what is really going on. That's what Republicans are counting on. I just can't fathom why people are more outraged by the stupidity and pure hateful racism by the extreme right teabaggers. If they are going to trash the country merely to deny others a chance at health care then they should also be denied pay like the other thousands of workers that they are forcing to go without pay. We should also take away the teabaggers health insurance.
 

(0)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 8:11 am
The Republicans remind me of rotten little kids having a tantrum because they didn't get their way, ruining everyone else's rights to have peace and enjoyment in their lives. The extreme factions of the party get attention for their screaming antics against health care, women's rights, and generally anything that is humane and the right thing to do. Tired of them destroying our economy, our rights, and our lives. Yet center stage is continually given to the nut cases the party has produced. Yet people in various states still vote for these extremists to enable them to do these things. Why does the electorate constantly sabotage its own well-being?

I only hope that by seeing what has happened today and its damaging results, that people will see their choices (or political apathy) do affect their lives, it does matter. Now it's time that the media and the Democrats put the insanity of the Republican Party under the spotlight. Call it like it is, they do nothing but destroy the country.
 

Pat B. (355)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 8:13 am
Good post today, and the above comments are great as well. It does not bode well, with what is going on, I have a hard time with, (possibly), the financial catastrophe looming on the horizon. I do HOPE that they find a way to concede quickly.!!! Thanks Tom, for this.
 

Terrie Williams (773)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 8:25 am
Can we put these fascist baggers in a rubber room and someone loose the frikken key? Please????? They are truly insane and definitely sociopathic. They have, by this little display of a tantrum, screwed my gov't loan process, which is now on hold. I hope they are happy. I will be....when I see every last one of them out on the street, without a job come 2014 and 2016.

Why are these idiots not being brought up on charges of sedition???????????? This has been done to destroy the US, from within and without a shot fired. Get it? I certainly do. Fascist Bast**ds.
 

Robert B. (58)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 8:45 am
Sorry, Correction: I just can't fathom why people AREN'T more outraged by the stupidity and pure hateful racism by the extreme right teabaggers.
 

Jason R. (66)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 10:05 am
When the dumbed down grew up, they ran for congress, getting the dumbed down vote.
 

Dave C. (227)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 12:23 pm
I absolutely agree with need to get rid of the TeaBaggers who are clueless about history of our country....

I love all the comment so hope everyone got a green star.....

.....and mostly, I, too, have had hundreds of emails at both my accounts as well as phone calls and letters........too many!!!!
 

Jason R. (66)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 1:40 pm
Thanks, Dave. How do we shut down the Roves, Kochs and the rest of the money funding the teabagger, A-holes war on our democracy?
Then, how do we remove their puppets on the SCOTUS? Threaten revolution with action to follow the bluff call?
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 1:43 pm
Puzzle — 3:10 I am not a fungus fan which prompted me to move more quickly to get away

The New Yorker — Oh AB, you're so funny!!!

"… Congress’ health benefits would remain intact: “We want to be in tip-top shape to continue to do the excellent job we’re doing for you.”"

… yeah, at the Republicare Death Panels!

NY Times — Boehner needs to ignore the Hastert Rule and let the House vote on the debt ceiling.

"The problem is that G.O.P. leaders, fearing the wrath of the radicals, haven’t been willing to allow such votes."

That is the only logical and sane thing to do. Mind you, that would assume that Boehner, through that pickled fog, could find a measure of sanity for the American people and the world. With the current thinking in Teabagger circles, (Did I just use Teabagger and thinking in the same sentence? Silly me!), they should be put on the designated domestic terrorists list because what these radicals are proposing is the anihilation of the US and world financial systems.

TPM — I don't know why House Republicanus/Teabaggers were so furious! They knew what the outcome would be and should have taken that into account. I can hear them now blaming the Senate for this "game" of political brinkmanship and the shut down, when in actual fact, the House Republicanus/Teabaggers are responsible.

"House Republicans were furious that Senate declined to return to session Sunday after the lower chamber voted to amend the continuing resolution late Saturday night."

.Cartoon — The Hastert Rule is alive and well sitting on the bar stool beside Boehner!
 

John Gregoire (264)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 3:26 pm
Let us not lose sight of the dirty fact that this is about a CR -continuing resolution- that is needed because NEITHER PARTY will compromise on budget matters. We have not had a government budget in some time and the Obama administration is just as guilty as those idiots on both sides of the aisle in Congress.

SHould the rest of the Republicans override the TPers? Sure if they want to represent their constituents. Should the Democtsars get real and negotiate some of these points seperately? Yes but they've refused to date despite Obama's words.

That's why we are at this gridlock and we need to call every one of our people in Congress and tell them to grow up. That is the message I sent to Schumer, Gillibrand and Reed. Of the three, Reed is a TPer and the other two are Democrats who will not negotiate -Gillibrand better than Schumer.

Democtsars was a typo but it fits. I think we need to kick them all out of office and elect people who want to do good and not be beholden to the rich (or better said, the other rich folk)!
 

Mitchell D. (132)
Tuesday October 1, 2013, 6:21 pm
As Edward R. Murrow, famously said to Joe McCarthy, "Have you no decency?"
That is the question to put to Boehner. With a shred of decency, he would turn around to the Teasuckers and say, "Okay, you have pushed this too far, and I'm not playing your game anymore. Take your toys and go home."
But Boehner clearly hasn't a shred of decency.
 

TomCat S. (231)
Wednesday October 2, 2013, 1:56 am
Thanks to all but John, who can't seem to realize that Republicans have refused to negotiate for six months an want to do so now, only because they they hold a loaded gun. For Representatives to do their jib is not a negotiable point..
 
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