Sunday October 6, 2013, 3:15 am
While the House Republicans scurry like headless chickens trying to decide what they are will take as a reward for depriving millions of Americans of basic government services, the Democratic Party has a long shot solution called a Discharge Petition to bring the clean CR, passed in the Senate, to the House Floor. If the majority of Representatives sign it, there will be a vote, even over the objection of Agent Orange and the Republican leadership.
I'm so pooped I forgot to include the graphic. apologies.
Sunday October 6, 2013, 7:55 am
I'm thinking that we may see more of this approach where the DEMs are providing the leadership missing from the Speaker these days on other issues, too--like immigration where the Senate passed billl has been languishing the requisite 90 days without a vote. It is the brightest hope I've seen to start getting the House to do some of their job and sworn duties.
If this worked, - IF - it still only works till November when this all begins again the tea bags along with many republicans have stated unequivocally they will NOT raise the debt ceiling. When this battle begins again and reaches a stale mate, and I see no reason it will not we are begging for Moody's to slap us down another notch, again. There actually is a moral imperative in all of this, it is far beyond ideology. This could - could lead to another serious recession and once again that would be global.
Thanks TC - I'm going to go crawl under the covers and try to feel better.
Sunday October 6, 2013, 8:16 am
There's very little chance those 22 Republicans will go along with this petition. Their displaying was only meant to keep their constituents happy., but they're not going to risk being thrown out of the old-boys-club. Nice try, though. The Democrats are active and the Republicans passive, bordering on catatonic, so that give the Dems the moral upper hand for a while.
Sunday October 6, 2013, 8:35 am
It would work but I have serious doubts the repubs on the fence will follow through. Coming out almost hourly to vote on getting certain people paid when all they have to do is pass a clean CR and saying this is the Dems fault has proven themselves to be the bottom feeders they are.
Sunday October 6, 2013, 9:03 am
it is a better idea than sending Boehner thousands of pacifiers as a symbol
those things cost money,whose? Ours
I want my donations to be more than a joke going to a bigger joke
Sunday October 6, 2013, 1:04 pm
Cruel and Unusual Politics:
The words most frequently used to describe House Republicans these days are CRAZY and STUPID. And itís not just the Liberal columnists and Democratic politicians who are questioning the GOPís basic sanity and I.Q. No less than the editorial board of The Wall Street Journal characterized the latest scheme to defund ObamaCare by threatening an imminent government shut down as inept and a Kamikaze mission. Karl Rove called it ill-conceived and North Carolinaís Richard Burr castigated it as the dumbest idea he had ever heard of, which says quite a lot coming from a senator who introduced a ridiculous bill to abolish the EPA.
The name calling make for good t.v., and the GOP crack up no doubt thrills many a progressive. All the Senate Democrats and several Republicans are opposed to this latest Tea Party hostage taking plot, so the chances it will succeed in gutting ObamaCare are nonexistent. Now that the government is shut down the rest of the GOP will realize the futility of this gambit and the damage it will do to their electoral odds. But all of this attention to congressional procedures and electoral point scoring misses something quite profound about what the GOP has proposed in the past few months: a chilly cruel vision of society in which tens of millions struggle to survive in abject misery while the richest of the rich get richer. Call it Elysium in the real world,2013.
Indeed, the day before the House voted to defund the Affordable Care Act, it passed a farm bill that would cut $40 million from the Federal food stamp program which helps to feed 48 million Americans, 3 million of whom would immediately lose their benefits if the GOP get itís way. Conservatives like Paul Ryan berated the program for lulling able bodied Americans into a culture of independency. The program, however, provides on the average just $4.45 a day, and most of itís beneficiaries are children, the elderly and the disabled. The GOP demanded that food stamp recipients find jobs or participate in job-training programs. But itís the same House republicans who have failed to pass a single jobs bill, while also voting to cut job training programs. The message, then, to the 17 million Americans who struggle to find enough food to eat is quite simple-time to starve.
Likewise,if the Affordable Care Act were to be scrapped, the GOP has no solution for Americans who lack affordable coverage or have pre-existing conditions. Once again, the implicit message is that people should simply submit to the vicissitudes of the free market-the society should just let our uninsured die. And the recent campaign to persuade young Americans not to enroll in ObamaCare, while deriding for itís clownish execution , has a dark intent: actively encouraging young people not to seek health care.
Republicans may very well, not succeed in enacting these miserable policies, but they are winning the larger debate: The Democratic counter offer to the GOP food stamp proposal was a modest $4.5 billion reduction. There has been zero discussion of the serious need to expand benefits. Similarly, Democrats have failed to mount a credible challenge to the crippling sequester cuts. In short, the debate in Washington still accepts the false framework that government is spending too much, with Democrats relegated to doing damage control. With the GOP threatening a debt ceiling breach, itís time for more Democrats to join the progressive Caucus, supporting itís powerful case for an active government that fights for ordinary Americans.
Sunday October 6, 2013, 2:51 pm
As I see it, a Discharge Petition is worth a try ó nothing ventured, nothing gained! As to whether it will work, that is another matter entirely. What Republicanus/Teabaggers, who privately say they agree with the Discharge Petition, will publically go against the party and sign the Discharge Petition, thereby garnering the Teabagger and leadership (if you can call it that ó certainly not enlightened!) wrath in particular. That would be the end of a political career or two!
"It is clear that those in the House who are advocating this shutdown are not only misrepresenting this countryís experience with shutdowns but do not actually understand that history. If they did, they would be taking immediate steps to reopen the federal government."
Sunday October 6, 2013, 3:06 pm
This is what happens when misogynistic, bible-thumping, Home-Schooled dipsticks get a little power - they Don't Know History, let alone Understand it! It's one of those Bu$h League "who could have foreseen" moments when Everyone Sees Except Them!!! Democrats may wear rose-colored glasses, but RepubliCONs wear Blinders!
Sunday October 6, 2013, 9:24 pm
We just watched Rachel Maddox explain this. Very interesting, what has happened should shame all Repubs and Tears right now, to have the shut down. The repubs and teaers may be helpless at the polls very soon!!
Thank You Tomcat!
Sunday October 6, 2013, 10:03 pm
It's a game of cat and mouse, only this time the Repuklicons are the mice. Now all we need is a really big, hungry cat. Thanks Tom. And thanks Judi for the petition link.
Monday October 7, 2013, 8:29 am
If this doesn't work that will be proof positive that the GOPTP really don't want to deal...forked tongues, etc. Whether or not their voter base will believe the truth remains to be seen. If it goes through, we'll know whether or not the GOPTP will remain in control or not before the Nov date - voting over kiddies. I actually hope the GOPTP bite themselves in their collective posteriors - the backlash may just be what's needed to get them out.
What has me worried is what they're really up to. Not many seem at all worried about their seats in Congress. Why?? What have I missed??
Monday October 7, 2013, 8:39 am
I can't picture very many Republicans publically opposing the Terror Bagger even when they know it's the right thing to do. They're afraid of losing their jobs to Tea Baggers--backed by unlimited Koch money--int the next primary election. Of course, if they're afraid of doing the right thing, they don't deserve their jobs anyway.