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Equivalence Is False

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TomCat S (129)
Friday October 11, 2013, 2:06 am
If you’ve seen me say this once, you’ve probably seen me say dozens of times that there is no equivalence between the parties. It’s bad enough to hear uninformed people jumping on the equivalence bandwagon that Republicans are pushing to deflect from themselves the blame that they so richly deserve. However, it’s ludicrous to hear this from reporters whose job it is to report the facts.

Gloria picchetti (304)
Friday October 11, 2013, 3:21 am

Robert B (60)
Friday October 11, 2013, 6:37 am
I totally agree with you Tom. This whole mess is strictly Tea Party contrived.

Past Member (0)
Friday October 11, 2013, 7:09 am
It is quite a joke that the GOP have taken their dirty money to create news for many yrs. But to make Obama look like he and he alone is the cause of taking this country down has finally being seen as one of the biggest lies in history. The GOP will pay for it . They will not be a party of power as much as they will be seen as a lesson (that power and money is not as powerful as the people when they work together).

Obama will go down in history as one of best Presidents in history. Obamacare will be the start of healthcare for all and the GOP will be dust

Poll: 60 percent say fire every member of Congress

JL A (281)
Friday October 11, 2013, 7:29 am
It seems that the corporate media is trying to contrive a separate but equal standard that both interferes with accuracy in reporting standards of journalism and resembles contrivances that the courts found absurd in education and other spheres of life decades ago.

divergent revolution (309)
Friday October 11, 2013, 7:48 am
The very reason I quit my job at abc news
I told them, if they were going to manufacture or falsify the news, I had wasted my college education and would pursue something completely different
So, I set out to sail the world.

Terrie Williams (798)
Friday October 11, 2013, 8:29 am
This belongs to the Tea Bagger/Rethuglicants lock, stock and several smoking barrels. They own it.

P A (117)
Friday October 11, 2013, 8:58 am
How I hope and pray that people will see the truth and see that the Far Right have caused this crisis and such pain to so many millions of people!


Lona G (80)
Friday October 11, 2013, 9:16 am
The Democrats should run this interview as an ad on every news station they can get to air it. It speaks for itself.

Gene J (290)
Friday October 11, 2013, 10:29 am
"Much of the big-picture news coverage has been clear on this. But as the crisis dragged on, more news stories framed the story as old-fashioned bipartisan gridlock between two equally culpable, stubborn, useless sides."

It is because this is the better story. There was a day when journalism was about truth. But that was before Rupert Murdoch and his kind. Now it is about battles. And to have battles there must be lines drawn. Where there are none, shady, lazy "journalist" will create them. There is no negotiating about the ACA. This story is actually coming out more fully each day. It is a LAW, passed by both Houses and signed into law by the President. Now a new group, the teapublicans wants to repeal it. They cannot because the Senate will never agree. So do they introduce an amendment containing their objections and/or new proposals? No, they choose this, in my opinion, both illegal and malfeasance of office, tactic of claiming to want to "negotiate" changes to an existing law. That is not how existing law is changed. It is changed by amendment or repeal. They can do neither, so like children, they are having a very public and tragic, meltdown. They should take their naps and then WIN AN ELECTION, if they wish to change the ACA. Obama campaigned on it, he won, this was front and center the entire campaign, the people WANT it, contrary to the assertions these fools are making today. So until they can take the Senate, House and Presidency, it is the law of the land and will stay so. No negotiating, that was done years ago as it was becoming law. The president is right to say, hell NO, on this and he must stay the course. History will prove him right. And these brats will be properly recorded as such in history as well.

Robert K (31)
Friday October 11, 2013, 11:06 am
Anyone not ascribing this 100% to the Republicans is either utterly ignorant or utterly untruthful. This crap can be traced to the stumblebum Ronald Reagan ending the fairness doctrine.

Shelly Peterson (213)
Friday October 11, 2013, 11:59 am
...."may I make a wish..on a shooting star!?!")....WHEN wil OUR regular news media "expose the Koch Brother's and their bought and owned "branch of the republicans and the rest of the teaparty" that have bought, own and obstruct "America", OUR government,! ..the people that live in this Country!?!...when will the rest of our journalist and newsmedia, STANDUP!!!?????????????????????????????????????????....may there be another shooting star in tonights sky, so I may make another wish!...I WILL NOT GIVE UP!!.............great post, Tom!

David C (133)
Friday October 11, 2013, 1:24 pm
unfortunately as the shutdown goes on longer, I am hearing more people try to place the blame equallly.......

Chris C (152)
Friday October 11, 2013, 1:37 pm
Recently, when MSNBC/NBC's Chuck Todd made that comment about how reporters weren't responsible for deciphering the truth, I was glad to see he got in trouble for that one! (His wife was part of the McCain for Prez campaign...that had to be uncomfortable!) I often wondered about some of his questionable statements back then, too.
Any reasonably intelligent person KNOWS who is at fault! Lee Terry, NE Repug Rep, recently had ALOT of controversy when he made his smart-ass statement, when asked if he would still get his own paycheck he said "Dang straight" - and that he was going to be getting his paycheck, that he worked for it (he worked 9 days in Sept). I called all 3 local TV channels and left messages on his local office phone- it was covered on the news that night. People were fighting mad! A few days later he was on the news apologizing. His last election was too close for comfort! We have no Democrat running right now but if we had John Ewing, the guy who almost beat Terry last time, running now, he would win by a landslide!

Sheila D (194)
Friday October 11, 2013, 1:45 pm
Wonder how much money Murdoch and the Koch Bros had to spend to get the "equal blame" spin out there? Wonder when reporters, male and female, will grow balls enough to start telling the truth? Wonder when the GOPTP voters will start thinking like people, not good little robots? Wonder if America will ever be Free again????

Deb E (63)
Friday October 11, 2013, 3:30 pm
They saw how bad it was looking for them and they decided they had better start the spin and from what the Repugs I know are saying, it worked!!! They went from saying it was the Democrats to blame to "well, it is both parties that are to blame because neither party works for the people". I try to set them straight. They won't listen. Flat refuse to listen. I don't get it. Since when can anyone make an informed decision based on a news talk show host's "opinion"? And it isn't even the news anchor's opinion!! He is reading from a script!! He is told what to talk about! They don't go out and get news anymore. They are fed news to feed to us. And they only get away with it because we trusted them at one time to tell the truth, because at one time the news WAS the truth, and because the younger generations haven't a clue what REAL reporting is. The other thing I don't like is the fact that the left news stations are starting to use the words "surrender" and "defeated". How dumb is that???? That will make the Tea Pukes want to fight even more!!

Robert K (31)
Friday October 11, 2013, 5:02 pm
Some cool figures I just saw, Favorable opinions:

Obama 47% Boehner 17% Cruz 14% Democrats 43% Republicans 24%

Blame foe shutdown Republicans 60@ Democrats 31% Stop the shutdown 70%


Robert K (31)
Friday October 11, 2013, 5:04 pm
60% Hunt and peck became peck and peck. ;o)

Birgit W (160)
Friday October 11, 2013, 6:12 pm
Noted, thanks.

Lynn Squance (235)
Friday October 11, 2013, 8:17 pm
"Seeming fair becomes more important than being fair. …

Reality doesn’t always have a bias, … But when it does, it’s not journalism’s job to rebalance reality."

Reporting events (reality) should be fair and unbiased, but too often it is not. It is not up to journalists to reframe anything because that means it is giving a distorted view of events and then journalists appear to be ideologues and perhaps even complicit in the imbalance.

Some might cite the recent situation of Chuck Todd, NBC News Political Director and White House correspondent, saying that it is not journalism's job to correct the Republicanus/Teabagger's Obamacare falsehoods. But I, like many others, disagree with that. In my opinion, by not reporting the facts, by aqllowing the falsehoods to stand, Todd is taking the position of an ideologue. There is a difference between reporting fact and bringing an opinion to bear which is what happened in this case in my opinion. And damn, doesn't it seem that Lawrence agrees with me. (I wrote this before watching Lawrence)

In the Lawrence O'Donnel interview, Carl Bernstein said that reporting should be "…the best obtainable version of the truth . . . a fact based, contextual, repretorial enterprise …"

He went on to say that the current shutdown and debt default situation is "…ideology over national interest … this is the most egregious case of it that we've seen … and it is built on animus to the President…" Then he went on to reference the Republicanus/Teabagger's plan hatched on the evening of 2009 and the President's inauguration — obstruct all of Mr Obama's policies. Of course, the past almost 5 years have shown that that is exactly what is happening. It is pure ideology over national interest .

As Bernstein said, reporting should be "…the best obtainable version of the truth…" . . . something that is not happening. And Faux Noise is a prime example. There is a reason TC calls Faux Noise the Republican Reich Ministry of Propaganda.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Friday October 11, 2013, 8:51 pm
Thank You Tomcat

Edith B (146)
Friday October 11, 2013, 10:03 pm
"ideology over the national interest" that says it all. We need more Bernsteins

TomCat S (129)
Saturday October 12, 2013, 2:10 am
Thanks everyone. Kudos and stars to many. I remember when LBJ was quoted as saying, "If we've lost Cronkite, we've lost the wart." How things have changed!

Mitchell D (104)
Saturday October 12, 2013, 1:28 pm
Earl Blumenauer, your Rep. TomCat, and Rush Holt, my Rep., represent the idea that intelligence can survive the vetting process that puts people in congress.
Just because 60% of some survey say it would be good to fire all of congress, does not mean it is a good idea.
As far as equivalence goes, whatever claim the Repugs may have once had for it, they have lost like a raccoon with a stick in its mouth, shedding fleas in a lake.
They are giving new meaning to the phrase, "Republicans can not govern." Hopefully that concept is infiltrating the minds of even the dullest Americans.
Yes, Edith, they push agenda, religious, plutocratic, whatever they think will enrich themselves and the people to whom they whore themselves out.

TomCat S (129)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 1:41 am
Amen Mitch!!

James Maynard (84)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:41 pm
Es verdad, TC!
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