Thursday October 17, 2013, 5:11 am
In so far as Ted Cruz was concerned he received a lot of money for his presidential run in 2016. Those who followed him were being used and they could not see it. Look, this was ALL ABOUT TED CRUZ!!!!!
Thursday October 17, 2013, 6:11 am
I do not know about Ted and what money he got, hopefully a pittance (probably not), but it did become clear, to me, that he was after his 15 minutes of fame.
My guess is that he was paying his dues as a puppet for the insurance industry and whatever Plutocratic masters, such as the Koch brothers, to show that he can be their mouthpiece, in their battle against the 99%.
In other, but related, political news:Steve Lonegan, who defiled his state of New jersey, by bringing the Palin thing here last week, lost the Senate election to Corey Booker, 55% to 44%, as of last night's news.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 7:42 am
Of course they are big fat zeros, but I'm not convinced yet that is all they got. I've not seen the details yet, but every one here is talking about a deal and the last I heard about it last night that the only thing Teabaggers got out of it was an extra income check for those applying for Obamacare. That seems next to nothing, but if true:
a) It is a change to Obamacare, so they're going to blow this up to huge proportions with lies and more lies and
b) after the first rage within their own party dies down, this will be spun into new motivation to try again. If you try to repeal Obamacare 42 times even after it had become law, you can grasp at the littlest straw to get you going again, right?
Please, all you bleeding hearts out there, stay very, very vigilant.
I wish I were as optimistic as you are TC, they may have gained and advantage with those weirdos that voted for them to begin with. I'm not counting on Ted Cruz slinking way in shame. He has no shame and is still crowing that this was a victory. That will ring true for some, and he brought his newly selected running mate out of moth balls and she was back to her old tricks again. The question in my mind is will the democrats and moderate republicans remember this next November? The folks who could kick the bums out rarely bother to vote in off year elections, this one is a must. The electorate has a very short memory.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 9:44 am
They got a lot - fewer jobs, higher interest on national debt, scared Americans who have lost faith in government, people who have been furloughed wondering when the next pay check will come and how to make it work from here, the shame on the nation and distrust of it by our creditors and they got away with sedition for the second time since President Obama was elected! No justice for these people who swore to uphold the Constitution - seems like they got a lot in return - and it aint over yet!
Thursday October 17, 2013, 10:19 am
Do not forget this.....and do not let anyone else forget it either...or
1) The Crackhead will be at it again in three months
2) You will get what you didn't pay for
3) Short memories will see Crackhead Cruz, Batsh** Backmann-esque types, Gobsmacked Gohmert...et al...right back in those very same seats with no one to blame but ourselves.
We cannot allow #3 to happen....ever again. Unless, of course, one is a closet masochist and enjoy being punished. This seditious behavior must end. 2014 and 2016.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 10:50 am
I do hope you right TC – but I hope that those who have suffered, especially those who didn't have any resources to depend on due to living on a knife's edge anyway, realise fully that it was a crisis engineered by the GOP/TP, that they planned it several years ago, and that they are likely to do it again in Jan/Feb! They just do not care so long as they can get headlines and pretend that all their evil deeds are someone else's. I hope everyone votes these unworthy representatives OUT of power just as fast as they can and never vote for them again!
Lee – I think you are right - and Terrie and others - their tricks are not over and we must keep arguing with people and proving that they are wrong with reason.....
Thursday October 17, 2013, 11:34 am
actually I think it is probably < 0, since I wondering how much it cost us in morality, world respect, etc, etc, etc.....all the GOP knows how to do is damage, damage, damage....hurt, hurt, hurt....fear, fear, fear....no building, no growing, no comforting......no consideration of anything other than their own goals, wallets and the present times....
Cruz has no cruise control, his mouth will keep running. I just hope the TV cameras find some thing, anything more interesting. I would much prefer the Panda cam to watching the Cruz - Palin show, in fact, I would watch a blank screen and be more interested.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 12:29 pm
Ted Cruz will pay for this in the end. Even Repugs were saying he did it for brinkmanship and for his run for President in 2016. Even most Repugs can't stand him and it won't be forgotten...the Democrats will make sure of that!
Thursday October 17, 2013, 12:49 pm
I'd rather you said "20 to life in the big house" and I am not referring to the White House! They more than deserve to be charged with sedition!
I am glad however that the Republicanus/Teabaggers, even though it was for their own selfish reasons, finally shouted "uncle", as in Uncle Sam, and released the hostage . . . the American people. In essence, they were holding more than the US hostage because of the closeness of the global community.
Let them whine and cry all they want. It won`t change a thing. The Republicanus/Teabaggers are seditionists whose only achievement was to garner the ire of the American people they held hostage.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 1:14 pm
@ Kit --- I`d prefer the old test patterns that used to be on TV at the end of the broadcast day. With 24/7 TV now, you don`t see them anymore, and I am definitely showing my age, but compared to the Cruz/Palin comedy hour, they are preferable.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 1:34 pm
The game they played to avoid bringing the Senate's CR to a vote also keeps others in the House now from doing likewise to the bipartisan Senate immigration bill that Rubio worked on (haven't heard that name in awhile have we?). One perception may be the GOP can only handle one 'token' non-WASP voice at a time so Cruz's attention silences Rubio's support. These may also be considered products/results of the sedition.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 3:37 pm
Sorry, last comment cut off which means I screwed up some coding.
@ Lona --- a) according to Senate leaders strike deal ,
"The only apparent change to the Affordable Care Act, which Republicans had targeted in their budget standoff, involves asking the Obama administration to carry out better checks on the incomes of those applying to take part in new insurance exchanges.`
b) Given Shutdown Boosts Obamacare Popularity so maybe they won`t try again. We can always hope. Afterall, they have to go back at it again within 2 months or repeat the hostage taking.
@ Lee --- I agree, but hopefully their biggest acquisition was the ire of the American and global communities. Americans have short memories, but I think if the Republicanus/Teabaggers tried another shutdown in early 2014, they`d pay at the polls big time. I hope Americans remember this and don`t rely on American exceptionalism.
@ Mitch --- Thanks for the NJ update. Lonegan is such an asshat! It will be interesting to see what the final totals are. And Cruz, I read somewhere that Berkshire Hathaway (Warren Buffett) was his primary contributor. I don`t know if Buffett had anything to do with the contribution or if it was a board of directors decision.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 4:04 pm
I guess I'm old fashioned, I would've given all the RepibliCONs a nice batch of fresh tar, some free-range chicken feathers & a free ride out of town on a rail!;) See, I can be Giving..:)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 5:55 pm
I'm with you Yvonne, I've got a few chickens that roam freely around the area, someone dropped them off and now they live at our apartment complex, plenty of feathers to be had.
I agree with Robert, it was all about Ted Cruz, he didn't care at all about anyone or anything. He wanted to make a name for himself, recognition for when he runs for President. Some won't remember what he did just the name so people "think" they know him, and the Tea Party lapped this up big time so they'll vote for him. This gave him funding from those who support this type of extremism and get the Government out of the way so they can really rule the roost.
No, it's not over, it will begin again right after Christmas and maybe some shady deal between them all will be signed in by President Obama on New Years Eve; like the NDAA was. If so it most likely will be from the New Deal programs as the Republicans love going after Social Security and Medicare and the Democrats don't at all seem to mind helping to offer them up.
The Democrats may come out smelling like roses this time but I don't trust either Party. Both have gotten us to where we are today, both have thrown us under the bus too many times. The Democrats have a long way to go before they have me convinced they are not doing a dance of the good cop bad cop with the Oligarchy at the chess board moving the pieces.
Keep voting in more Elizabeth Warren's and Alan Grayson's and then I'll be feeling we are on the right track, but there are too few of them. Bless Bernie Sanders who was at one point one of the few voices that made the message clear and brought it to anyone's ears that would listen. It's people like Bernie Sanders that is the reason I'm a lifelong registered Independent....no Party has a guarantee of my vote. At this point it would be until hell froze over that I'd go Republican and I'll keep my eye on the Democrats, best you'll get out of me.
I've never seen such a disgrace in Washington, in particular from the Republican side. Disgraceful what they did to the Veterans that Cruz and Palin, shame on them. Also what the others did when they blamed that Park Ranger for closing the WWII Memorial and taking their photo opportunities. Bachmann with the yellow tape in her hand posing with those who truly set their lives on the line. How dare they do this to these aged Veterans. It makes my skin crawl.
I sent them all a letter, along with the Tea Bag Marco Rubio here in Florida that voted to keep the Government shut. They should be ashamed however they are too arrogant and full of themselves to even know what disgrace they bring upon the Nation and themselves. Bachmann in the news already stating "its a sad day, that the Government has reopened." I wish someone had taken that yellow tape and tied it around her mouth.
Thursday October 17, 2013, 9:09 pm
They didn't get what they wanted, but they got plenty of free press and coverage from tv so they can build up their campaign chests with money from the nuts who agree with them. I quit watching the Sunday talk shows because Ted Cruz kept popping up and I am supposed to be watching my blood pressure. I am sure their spin machines will turn this into a victory for them
Friday October 18, 2013, 2:47 am
LOLS! Thanks TomCat!
I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop, come February, so I'm worried. I hope we can keep the pressure on them so we can get some real changes. This just seems like a temporary Band-Aid, too easily pulled off when they're bored of looking at the Pokemon on it. Or after we've spent enough cash on boosting the holiday economy. Whichever comes first.