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Open Thread - 10/21/2013

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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P A (117)
Monday October 21, 2013, 5:14 am
Excuse my language – but WTF is this evil 'petcoke' – stuffed with Vanadium to poison the poor – and a byproduct of Tar Sands – this is beyond AWFUL! No wonder they are trying to keep this quiet – too late!

Please don't exhaust yourself this week, TC, I too will be only partly present as I have too many things to cope with at present and even though PP is quite impossible to miss, I don't know that I will be able to find anything coherent to say – please forgive me as I may only be able to say that I agree with everyone (unless the troll returns)!

Carlene V (202)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:45 am
With the rethuglicans infighting, the real possibility to change seats in Congress and the Senate has given Dems have a good chance to take some of those seats that were lost in 2010. I hope the squabbling continues, those with some degree of intelligence versus the baggers (neo-cons) without an ounce of any recognizable brain matter.

As for the Bros Koch, quite possibly the worst people for our planet.

Gene J (290)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:55 am
“It’s civil war in the G.O.P.,” said Richard Viguerie, a veteran conservative warrior who helped invent the political direct mail business… "

It is well known that among the lesser beasts, that they often eat their young. I have always found that to be a design flaw in the universe, but have decided that in the case of republicans, it is a very good thing indeed. May there be no person left standing after this internecine warfare. We just might become in that case, the great nation we have long aspired to be.

Lona G (80)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:56 am
How is it even possible that the Kochs are schlepping this awful, poisonous petcoke around the country and dumping it within city boundaries without any environmental agency protesting and at least fining them? Is everyone on the take? That they are trying to haul it off to some poor country that can't afford any better and cares about it citizens as little as the Kochs do, doesn't surprise me at all. Dumping excesses on the world market, no matter how much it hurts the economies of the poor countries, has been a 'trademark' of the US for a very long time.

I'm old-school pacifist, so the idea of a civil war doesn't appeal that much to me, but I have visions, of Republican gladiators fighting Teabaggers in hand-to-hand combat in the arena which continues until not one is left standing, that scare the daylight out of me. I'm furious that they influence my thoughts in such a bloodthirsty way.

And I'm even more furious that I now envisage some very painful and lingering deaths for some Texan GOPers after reading how they try to keep so many married women from voting under their married names and saying it is quite reasonable to request the name on the birth certificate to be on the ID. They must be scared as hell of Wendy, the democratic Warrior getting all the female votes.

Pat B (356)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:40 am
Daily Kos: That's some scary stuff, and the poorer countries suffer. PolicyMic: Didn't know the percentage was that low, in Texas for women, geesh!! Hope all goes well this week with your guys. I also volunteer with vision/hearing clinics at different schools, and we are busy with that right now. Keeps me busy now that I'm retired. Take care, have a good week, and thanks, Tom.

Gloria picchetti (304)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:41 am
Nice photo Tom Cat. It's a treasure!

David C (131)
Monday October 21, 2013, 12:22 pm
thanks, Tom, I too am looking for both sides to lose in the GOP civil war!

JL A (281)
Monday October 21, 2013, 1:20 pm
I do believe Southside of Chicago is more non-whites like Detroit, too, as the victims of coke/Koch. Speaking of Texas, I've been getting word of various elected GOP politicians changing their party to DEM to distance themselves from Cruz--could it become a tsunami?

James Maynard (84)
Monday October 21, 2013, 2:22 pm
Stuck on the rooftop.
Thanks TC.

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:03 pm
May they kill off eachother in a great conflagration within their own chambers...and no one else's! I hope they go the way of the Whigs....and the dinosaurs....only to be found occasionally as peculiar fossilized relics of a time long gone by......yeah....I can dream.

Terrie Williams (798)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:05 pm
I ain't even gonna start on their little voter suppression tricks in TX.......I plan to really confuse them since my ID shows my entire name AND hyphenated married name. It will amuse me to watch their pinheads do a Linda Blair for a change.

Lynn Squance (235)
Monday October 21, 2013, 10:54 pm
Puzzle — 3:12 That's my warm little nest up there on the chimney!

Daily Kos — I rather like the following statement: "Tar sands is carbon safely sequestered by nature in the ground. "

Mr Obama said: “our national interest will be served only if [Keystone XL] does not significantly exacerbate the problem of carbon pollution.”

"Petcoke, the tar sands residue that is worse for the climate than burning coal, has been piled up near midwest refineries awaiting export to countries that allow it to be burned. Because it's a waste product of oil refining the Kochs sell it for prices cheaper than coal to poor nations willing the accept pollution as a trade off for cheap energy. Petcoke is the carbon cost ignored in the State department analysis that falsely claimed that Keystone XL tar sands oil will not significantly increase greenhouse gas pollution compared with conventional oil. "

There are 2 points here for me: 1) selling the petcoke to lesser developed countries to be burned as fuel; and more importantly, 2) petcoke is not included in th environmental impact statement for the Keystone XL.

Point number one reminds me of the Canadian government selling asbestos to some countries even though the Canadian government outlawed the use of asbestos in Canada. The sale of petcke is just another way to make money at the expense of the environment and people. In the second point, petcoke must be included in the EIS since it is a by-product of the refining process and a direct consequence of the tar sands mining.

Stop the Keystone XL. Tell Mr Obama to ignore the heavy and persistent lobbying of the Harper government!

NY Times — The Koch brothers are the primary backers of many Republicanus/Teabaggers, with an emphasis on Teabaggers. After reading the Daily Kos article above, and knowing some of the other "after affects" of other Koch operations (river pollution and higher cancer rates in some areas), is there any doubt that the Republicanus/Teabaggers are all about profit without taking responsibility for how that profit is generated. The Republicanus/Teabaggers are big on reminding citizens about taking individual responsibility for their lot in life as the politicians vote to cut SNAP, social security, medicare etc. But how are they taking responsibility for the effects of their profit taking — pollution, climate change etc? They are not! Hypocrites!!!

Truthdig — Just one more tactic to steal elections and leave states, if not the country, in the hands of white males!

"Supporters of these new laws insist that requiring voters to have an ID that matches their birth certificate is a reasonable requirement."

It sounds like, I, were I a resident of Texas, would be disenfranchised of my voting rights. I have a drivers' license, but I changed my surname to that of my stepfather so my picture ID no longer matches my birth certificate. I have a male friend who took his wife's last name and hyphenated it with her last name. He would not be able to vote. Now, we're both flaming liberals so of course, conservative Texas wouldn't give a rat's ass! I would think that this bull shit of disenfranchising whole swathes of voters flies in the face of the constitution and it needs to be addressed NOW!

Cartoon — I was 15 years old. That was the year of Canada's centennial and of Expo '67 in Montréal. I travelled to Vancouver from Toronto on my first ever plane ride. And on the front burner were American draft dodgers. "During the Vietnam War, only 30,000 of the 210,000 Americans accused of dodging the draft left the country. A total of 30,000 deserters and draft evaders combined went to Canada." Another amusing little factoid: Rock musician Ted Nugent described a more elaborate way of "dodging" the draft which involved a lapse in personal hygiene.

TomCat S (129)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 12:23 am
Thanks to all but the damn SPAMMER!
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