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Republicans Want to Make America Stupid


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: education, GOP lies, GOP War )

TomCat
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TomCat S. (286)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 2:56 am
Republicans have different reasons for their wars. Their Ear on Women, for example, is to subjugate them at home. Their War on the Environment is to increase profits for criminal corporations. Their War on Voting is to steal elections that they cannot win in a fair contest. Their Wars on Minorities and LGBT people are to tap the hatred of their rabid base and energize them to activism. Now, their War on Education is to make America stupid. Why?
 

Roseann D. (178)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 3:00 am
Because knowledge is power and the GOP prefers we have neither. Look at the duped TeaKochs...KochTeas?... for confirmation.
 

Gloria picchetti (290)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 5:09 am
So true and not new because traditionally in K through 16 the principals and the janitors make more than the teachers. And university and college administrators suck up the budget for everything except (Tom Cat is going to kill me.) teacher salaries and football.
 

Edwin M. (366)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 5:43 am
Where the fox followers are concerned that objective may have already been achieved.
 

Gene Jacobson (252)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 6:17 am
"Unless we produce a generation of Americans smart enough to find new innovations to succeed in a competitive world economy, America will become a third world, totalitarian nation under rigid Republican rule."

I think this is the why, Tom. This is the teapublican goal, if there are any moderate conservatives left, they wouldn't support this. The example of what Rick Snyder did is true across the country. I think the teapublicans would like to eliminate all the great land grand universities or render them impotent because they are hotbeds of liberalism in their eyes (a complaint for decades) and the rich send their kids to Ivy League schools anyway. They don't care about anyone else's kids, never have, never will other than as cannon fodder. And factory fodder. Of course, they need servants too, but the rest of America's children have been left behind long ago. I had the same kind of education you did, in a small two room country school, two teachers with two year "normal" school degrees. Who taught me things that aren't even in the curriculum today. I learned everything I needed to know in those first 8 years, by the time I got to high school in town, it was a breeze, just recaps of things I had learned already. That is far from the case today. Sadly,.
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 6:54 am
Interesting to see the similarities with Islam.....each seeks to promote ignorance and suppress women. Each seeks to create a small group of ''elite'' who impoose their will on everyone else. Each uses media/myth to support their agenda.
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:24 am
That's because most of them are a**holes!
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:25 am
Pam, that is a valid juxtaposition, I believe!
I have written, at C2, previously, that the right wants to quash education for the specific goal, of being able to then lead the unthinking by the nose.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:37 am
they want to bring the intelligent to their level
you can fix ignorance,ya can't fix stupid,or a closed mind
thanks TC
 

Ben Oscarsito (337)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:45 am
Of course they do. But why argue with ignorant idiots...?
 

Winn Adams (192)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:47 am
Vote all republicans and teabaggers out of office in every state at every opportunity.
 

Ben Oscarsito (337)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:53 am
Mark Twain said it: "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience"
 

Jason R. (60)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 8:38 am
And now, they just voted to "let them die" for 1.3 million new Democrats.

That dumbing down is a two way street, republicans.
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:00 am
The Republicanus/Teabaggers want the rest of the country to resemble them at best . . . little Republicanus/Teabagger clones who march in lockstep! If you teach people how to think, OMG, they actually might make better decisions and see the Republicanus/Teabaggers for what they are . . . trolls, political trolls out to control the country rather than lead the country.

Like TC and Patty, I am a product of the 60's only in Canada. I have a post secondary education at the college level but no degree. More importantly, I am a knowledge junkie. The day one stops learning is the day one dies!
 

Pat A. (117)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:12 am
Goodness me – I am part of a chorus – like everyone so far I am part of 60s education, and don't have a degree. Plenty of people with degrees don't know how to think, just how to regurgitate info in a manner pleasing to their examiners.

My instant reaction on reading the headline of this article before I clicked on to it was to think "Well if the GOP want to make America more stupid, all they have to do is have more voters!" (please God that doesn't happen – on so many levels!

 

JL A. (275)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:28 am
Trending states' budget data always show investment in higher education goes down as prison costs go up--the war on drugs and stiffer correctional sentencing of more minor offenses strategically forced increased tuition costs and public universities to depend more on corporations--and setting the stage for these events.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:38 am

Why is the right wing, particularly with the influence of the tea party; leading us down this road of limited education, limited individual rights, limited out-reach to those most in need, and even more redistribution of the nation’s wealth upward and not owned by the majority? I believe that is the essence of the question.

I believe this has been a continuing, if often unsuccessful set of policies for at least the past 60 years. Though the success of these plans moved slowly and without much success until the election of Reagan. The single most serious road block would be the stringent regulations imposed by FDR, in his efforts to end the Depression by use of the only tools at his disposal. The result was that we did have increased taxation on both the very wealthy and the largest mega-corporations. This fed our economy, and we as Americans saw growth. The use of the VA bill allowed a generation of returning war veterans to obtain a college education, without going bankrupt. We showed a generous spirit by beginning a program of protections for our elderly, and finally in the 1960’s we acknowledged that equal and civil rights were not limited to some, but were in fact a part of the ideals of the constitution. The phrase life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, was not intended for the few, but rather the many.

With an educated public and voting rights open to all, this country thrived in a way that made us a model of what a nation could be, a model of what freedom should mean.

The problem with an educated public is that they will and do question the decisions and desires of those in power. Americans acknowledge that some will be rich, either from inherited or earned wealth and accepted the idea of the possibility; that this class should be allowed to use their ideas and ingenuity to grow their ideas and through this: employ the public. Americans, have long expected that from using the tools granted by our freedoms the wealthy do actually owe a debt to the United States.

In the past 30 years with onslaught of ending the regulations that were set in place to prevent another disaster as happened with the unchecked growth and abuse of public funds, we prevented another completely catastrophic collapse of the economy. As the regulations were removed the corporations, banks and Wall Street investment brokers immediately began returning to those practices that took wealth from the public and redistributed that wealth upward.

With that access to extreme wealth comes an expectation to control and dictate all aspects of life that will continue to feed the wealth and privilege of the few, with distain of those not in that very isolated stratosphere of life. Living in the enclave that grants exception to the rules of the many but allows growth of the few people lose a perspective of reality and honesty. The few now have nearly total enhancement of their rights and little desire to see the pubic once again grow in education or voting freedoms. Neither women nor any group of minorities are dependable for following laws, rules or regulations that infringe on their right to attempt to own a piece of the national wealth, rights and freedoms. When each person has the right to own even a small piece of the “pie” that poses a threat to the most wealthy of the ruling class.

The best and most efficient way to deal with the rabble (that would be us) is to limit their rights. Make loud claims of voter fraud and some, too many, will follow that tune with support, convincing themselves that it must be true. Education is for the few that can afford that privilege, not for the rabble, voting for those who might attempt to disrupt this extraordinary movement of wealth upward, is not just a desire to suppress, but a desire to not allow any form of interference.

The WARS on women, minorities and the reticence to accept the reality of needed immigration reform are all a part of this need for protection of the wealthy; their ownership of the mass of wealth created by the nation is currently bordering on desperation.

The most important missing element is an intellectual rebellion that will again allow this country to grow as in once did, from the labor and efforts of the majority.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:51 am

When one is confronted with those who accuse this administration attempting a redistribution of wealth, it might be a good a idea to remind them that this has happened and all that is needed is for those with the most, to active participants for the betterment of the country.

Strangely, one of those most misquoted is the so-called father of capitalism, if one will actually read his work, he was not fond of taxation, but clearly saw the reality of the need for taxation, and most important the very real need for regulation of corporations.
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"Conservatives love to quote Adam Smith, the Father of Capitalism . But I doubt that many of them have actually read his works. Adam smith extolled the free market in his seminal work, An Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of The Wealth Of Nations. But he also talked about other contributors to national success then surely they agree with his views on other related subjects, like how government should be funded.


"The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state." - Adam Smith

If it wasn't for all that government, and ultimately, the rest of the nation, the wealthy would not have been able to amass their riches. They should give back to the community.

""The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich . . . . It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

"It must always be remembered, however, that it is the luxuries, and not the necessary expense of the inferior ranks of people, that ought ever to be taxed." -- Adam Smith
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Though we consider him the father of capitalism he was not one who glorified the accumulation of wealth at the bitter and cruel expense of the rest of the workers and worse - the very poor. Smith had some ideas as a structure for the business of business. He also knew well that his ideas could and would be taken out of context and used to reinforce the most vile of thinking. That only the "best" of society should be allowed a participation in the Wealth of Nations.



 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:55 am

A couple of typos above - sorry about that. And....yes I do realize that few will read these long answers.
 

GGmaSheila D. (169)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 10:41 am
Such great comments...Agree with all of you. The simple answer to why he dumbing down of America is that smart people don't follow Idiots, aka Toadies, bent on the ruination of an entire country at the orders of so few as the 1%. Educated people question, discuss, look for answers, and alternatives.

Public education has been training children to grow up good litte followers for decades. That's one of the drawbacks to that kind of school system, but the only one we had for the poor and most of the middle class. Of course, the wealthy and some of the upper middle class have the money to pay for private education which fosters the ability to think for yourself...
 

Deb E. (64)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 11:53 am
And they have succeeded in doing so.

I am on a list for many of the different governmental committees and so I receive notices of all kinds of things that our government is doing. Very interesting to see how our tax dollars are actually spent. I would advise anyone who wants to know to sign up for these alerts. The latest sent was an invitation to a "free" regulatory and compliance workshop being hosted at LSU for the biotechnology field (makers of GMOs). The focus of the workshop is to help these GMO makers stay within guidelines of the government for the approval of the GMO foods, and make it easier for them to fill out the needed forms by making everything available as "eforms". The workshop will help these major corporations, who have billions in profit, get "free" help from OUR government (the "biotechnology regulatory services" ... regulates the introduction, importation, interstate movement, and release into the environment of genetically engineered organisms that may pose a risk to plant health ... plant health ... not human health) in making sure their products will be gotten to market with fewer problems for them. Now, how stupid are the people of this country to think they can get their government to label these GMOs when their government is paying for people to actually assist GMO makers in getting it all done?

I am beginning to think that this is not just a Republican tactic, although they do a lot more damage to the people than Democrats and certainly Progressives but, it does seem that our current President has a lot going on in his administration that either he is not aware of or he is turning a blind eye to. He has stated that "the buck stops here" ... with him. So is he approving the spending of our tax dollars for FREE workshops geared only to helping billionaire GMO corporations in getting their products through the regulatory process? WTH??

Didn't mean to be off topic with my comment. It does show how ignorant the American people are as to what their government really is doing, though. I agree, most of the politicians who are perfectly happy with keeping the American public stupid (or ignorant) are Republicans. But that is because the Republican Party IS actually the Corporate Party. Their only goal, at this point in time in history, is to promote corporate profits, and the way to be successful at that is to treat people like mushrooms, which they do quite successfully.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 1:50 pm
It occurs to me, to suggest a related book: "Idiot America, How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free," by Charles P. Pierce.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 3:07 pm
Bu$h Leaguers had 8 years & MajnStreamMedia helping "regular, good 'ol boys" to feel that wallowing in ignorance & failing up was the right thing to do! They got every sound byte & Louder is Better "arguement" handed to them without working for it. So, of course they're going to see "Education" as useless - the elites will still get all the good jobs. Blue collar isn't the problem, we always need them..but we waste them by offshoring & out sourcing & then cry because we don't have enough "skilled workers" when we decide to build or rebuild factories. I personally don't think Education is the problem - everyone I went to school with could read (understanding is totally different..;) but I see Education being much like what it was in the 60/70's - only the rich could afford it. They liked it that way & they've done it again. The only thing different Now is that people Can learn to go online & learn much about what they Want to learn. WILLFUL ignorance is WAY more prevalent now than in the 60's & 70's - and That is dangerous for all of us!
 

Dave C. (214)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 3:22 pm
only way to get votes for the GOP.....
 

Dave C. (214)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 3:24 pm
learning how to think, not what to think is what I have always told my children.....
 

Freya H. (307)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 4:24 pm
They want us ignorant because ignoramuses are a lot easier to control. Educated people tend to be less religious. So do smart ones - a disproportionate number of Mensa members are atheists or agnostics.

Unfortunately, Democrats are not much better.

P.S. TomCat, I think you meant "War on Women" not "Ear." Yeah, picky, picky, picky.
 

Robert B. (57)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 7:26 pm
The first order of any Dictatorship is to keep the population uneducated and misinformed.
 

Lona Goudswaard (68)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 8:38 pm
Well it's official now: we may have jokingly called the Republican voter "dumb"or "stupid" here on this thread but it actually is a fact. "The Pew Research Center and others have found that lower income and less-educated whites are becoming more likely to vote Republican than Democrat,"

So the reason to cut down on education is threefold.
First the can delegate the money saved to their masters (the 1%) and themselves in the form of tax cuts. Secondly, they can keep the poor and underprivileged whom they hate so much safely where they are and under control by denying them any chance of getting themselves out of their situation with an education and last, but certainly not least, they keep their masses of dumb voters who'll enable the GOP/Tea Party to perpetuate this grim reality into infinity.
 

Vivian B. (154)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:04 pm
The only way to defeat these Repuglicans is to be ever vigilant and help get out the truth and get out the VOTE! Remember this when November comes rolling around!
Help any way you can. Pick up people and give rides to people that need one to get to the polls! We cannot stop until people realize that the republicans are out to take over every part of the government!
 

Marie W. (65)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 9:18 pm
Too late- USA is already dumbed down. The average German, Norwegian, French, Swede, [ pick a European or Asian country]....know more on just about any subject than the average American.
The whole Jay Leno 'ask a person on the street' gag would fail anywhere else. Sad/pathetic and so true.
 

Edith B. (141)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 10:01 pm
The dumber we are, the more apt we are to vote Republican.
 

TomCat S. (286)
Tuesday January 7, 2014, 11:04 pm
Thanks everyone. Many kudos, especially to Kitty.
 

John B. (215)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 1:42 pm
Thanks Tom for the post. When you are Dumb you want everyone else Dumb. We have got to take back the House and I hope 2014 is the year.
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 11:40 am
Hardly a heavy lift folks.!.Look at the idiots who were voted into office.! presumably by moronic voters.
I find the lack of general knowledge in America quite amazing. I also find the lack of good public education to be very telling !. ( way down the list ). Smarten up ,you are fast becoming a global joke.Too bad.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Friday January 10, 2014, 11:12 am
The scariest thing is that America the Super Power may toss a tantrum at the slightest snicker from "the world"..so the joke's on "the world" in general! What billionaires & Corporations want published & televized isn't necessarily the way it is, so don't assume the TeaBagger "stupid signs" are representative of Americans. But do fear for sanity being denied by electoral theft.
 
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