Saturday March 8, 2014, 12:11 am
This is Rachel’s second major Iraq War special, and if you have not had the good fortune to see it, or want to see it again, you can watch it here. She made her point well and documented it with her usual thoroughness and accuracy. While my own analysis includes a second reason, she agreed completely with my main reason. Enjoy!
Saturday March 8, 2014, 1:42 am
I watched both this one and the last one. Rachel Maddow is one of the best activist reporters in the industry today. I expect to see her offered a HUGE contract from 60 Minutes in a year or two unless NBC moves her into the Brian Williams slot after he resigns to take over Jeopardy! from Alex Trebek.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 6:39 am
Gloria, the Republicans don't get it because they only pay attention to the money flowing to the munitions industry and the oil industry. To them, all the rest, peoples's lives, and on, is just static that gets in the way.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 7:21 am
Thanks TomCat, for getting the video's out to the rest of the world too. I've sat through both of them and of course Rachel didn't come up with a total surprise - we all knew that BOTH wars by father and son Bush were about oil. But as usual Rachels brings in so much well-researched material to the table that it can no longer be an assumption that it was about oil, but it now is confirmed and true.
You may be right about the second reason, it seems very plausible, but it also seems more of a very fortunate side-effect than the major reason to invade. I think that Obama with his very close (and very secretive) alliance with Yemen, has found America a much more strategically placed country (look at the map about what it controls).
I have to think on this a bit more, because Rachel's special may also have repercussions for the Dutch. Only last year the prime-minister at the time of the Iraq war had to go before a commission, swearing he dragged the Dutch into this war despite all the opposition because he was lied to and believed in the ruse of weapons-of-mass-destruction. No oil was mentioned. But on hearing how American and foreign oil-companies were expressing interest in bidding on Iraqi oilfields and how the English (with their oil-giant BP) were actually going to Iraq to safeguard their national oil flow, it makes me wonder if Royal Dutch Shell is on that list and if so, how much it pressured our government to join in.
The song, "Money makes the world go around" (Cabaret) should probably be Oil make the world go around, we fight wars, steal property, pollute water, air and land resources to increase the profits of the few' while causing massive damage to the many. I watch the documentary and will probably watch it a few more times. I wish both could have been longer, but they are geared to the attention span of the general public. Kudos to Maddow, she has done very well by the American people.
A few years ago I read the book: "Vultures Picnic" (by Greg Palast) which is journey into the real facts and hellish truth of the oil companies. Truths that most do not want to know, when the lipstick is off that pig it becomes a fire breathing dragon.
I doubt we can reverse the damage done in planet pollution, loss of species or governmental structures destroyed by those years and continued policies of oil at any cost. Now we are FRACKING this country to once again gain the position of global leader; by selling natural gas to all comers. The price we as citizens pay for the few to fill their pockets and egotistical quest for power is a devastated country; suffering with disease and earth quakes in this new gold rush for natural gas. Maybe that should be the next documentary that Maddow takes on, the story is worth the telling.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 11:13 am
If oil makes the world go around, the most activist move we can make is to quit spending as much of it as we can. Lump all your shopping together. Don't give in to impulse runs, and learn to do without. Find alternative energy sources for all that you use, eat, wear, etc. The sooner we don't need Big Oil, the better.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 12:28 pm
I never miss Rachel Maddow's show. I always thought they did it for the oil! As I have said before, Obama was one of the few who had the courage to vote NO on the Iraq war!
Rachel is absolutely amazing. I knew she'd be big when I first saw her as on the Keith Olbermann show. There are quite a few up and coming young talents on MSNBC and I try never to miss them. I'm lucky in that if I miss Hardball, Chris Hayes, Rachel or Lawrence O'Donnell - they re-air each show in the late evening.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 12:31 pm
I hope I am not dead by the time they bring all these war criminals to The Hague. I want to see them convicted and punished. It is always about the oil, lust for power and keeping the MIC contractors happy and monetarily sated. What we want, what the rest of the planet's inhabitants want, is of NO MATTER to them and never will be. We are but mere chess pieces to them and cannon fodder. Until we rid the world of sociopathic men/women of power and office, it will always be this way.
I hope Rachel keeps on it. She is one and maybe the only one (ok, Chris Hayes is another and few more but its a tiny handful compared to the mass of talking heads who call themselves journalists) who still digs and finds facts and researches her information to give the people the truth of things. She is a treasure that I hope MSNBC recognizes and understands that we need more of her kind and way less of talking heads in designer suits telling us BS everyday.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 12:44 pm
Many of us knew at the time it was for oil. I remember that and am glad to see that little fact included here. I think the only intelligent person who was fooled was Colin Powell, and that was a tragic blight on an otherwise honorable career.
I kind of hope I am no longer around when these war criminals are brought to justice. If. Because even if they ever are, I do not want to see what they have done to the earth at that time. Nor am I crazy about being homeless, starving, and in rags, which I expect us all to be by then.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 12:49 pm
"The weapons he is developing could well fall into the hands of terrorists . . . " — Colin Powell
Well, there were no weapons of mass destruction to fall into nefarious hands, but the plans for Iraqi oil were being made by greedy plutocrats and oligarchs, the true terrorists to the world's people. And many of these plutocrats and oligarchs were part of the Baby Bush administration, or had intimate access to it.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 2:01 pm
Rachel speaks the truth, I admire her, for what she says, and stands for. Really good video(s). It's all about the money, greed, oil, lust for power, at the cost of many lives lost on both sides. I'm going to bookmark this to watch again. Thanks, Tom for this.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 3:44 pm
Thankfully journalistic integrity and research is not completely dead and we benefit from these results.
Nowadays in the US almost any discussion of oil interests ends up including Texas. Sometimes it is said that [some] Texans value oil more highly than other Americans. Is it any accident that the Presidents from Texas imposed this view on national policy?
Saturday March 8, 2014, 4:54 pm
Kamia, great comment. There are so many programs I like to watch. Rachael, Chris Hayes, Laurence O'Donnel and more . Thankfully I can watch one and DVR the other.And Tom brings us the very best news!!
Saturday March 8, 2014, 6:46 pm
"At some level of the government, at some point in time ... there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened [on 9/11]." —John Farmer, Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission and Attorney General of New Jersey
"I want to overthrow Saddam [Hussein]. Find me a way to do it." —President George W. Bush, speaking in the first National Security Council meeting of the Bush presidency on 30 January 2001, eight months before the World Trade Center attacks of 9/11, as told by Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, interviewed in the TV documentary, "Why We Did It"
"If I had to narrow it down to one person ... I think my prime suspect [in the 9/11 attacks] would be Dick Cheney." —Dr. Robert Bowman, Ph.D. in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech, former U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, and Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations
Saturday March 8, 2014, 7:17 pm
Thank you for sharing the video. I was aware of this when the war began because I heard Scott Ritter who was in Iraq investigating WMD and said that Iraq didn't have any viable WMD. In addition, I had heard about the New American Century which was a group that Cheney and others were involved with. The show simply confirmed my beliefs. I want to know why they aren't charged with some sort of criminal action.
When Colin Powell was testifying with his little vial of white powder, I was sayin liar, liar, liar. I was castigated by some who believed him. Perhaps he wasn't lying, but telling the truth as he knew it, but his bosses knew. Our country has been devastated by that folly, and I hope how soon all Americans know how they were manipulated for oil and profits for Cheney and the oil industry.
Saturday March 8, 2014, 9:55 pm
We all knew this when it happened! We just had got a cover up job being lied outright to for years!!
What a Crew meeting in secrecy!
At the cost of the taxpayer's and lives of people. We had no business being there.
Yet these leader's think they shouldn't be punished?!
Rachel tell's it like it is!
Thank You TomCat
Sunday March 9, 2014, 6:40 am
I didn't have time yesterday to give this the attention it deserves, so am late to the party. I truly wish Rachel would reconsider her career plans which she has stated to be a continuance of her career to date. I would prefer that she be giving policy directives at a much higher level than simply informing the public. I think a Maddow administration would be the epitome of transparency in government, something this documentary proves is desperately needed.
I want our world outlook and our global policies, to be based on the kind if research and factual information Rachel ALWAYS provides as backup for her opinions. She performs constant listening checks to ensure she is hearing what is said correctly, to make sure she is interpreting it correctly and that her responses are coherent, cogent and factually correct. That is how I think politics ought be conducted, in the light of day, and based on sound truthful positions well-reasoned and justifiable, not emotions or the winds of current events or worse, entirely selfish motives - which happens when you let the people who profit make the policy. Bush got what he wanted, he got to finish his daddy's war, and he is getting the historical notice he does not want as his presidency will always be seen as one of the weakest in our history. His legacy is that he has no achievements, no crowning glory, only abject failure. It is what he deserves, the American people, and the world, deserve a lot better.
Sunday March 9, 2014, 10:39 am
I'm so glad that Rachel Maddow uses her considerable intellect to work for the public good and that she's found a nightly home on TV where we benefit from her dogged persistence and allegiance to facts.
Monday March 10, 2014, 10:16 am
Thanks Tom I have not had chance to watch Rachel Maddow. But will Sure oil, money, power and revenge and the American people did not even care because of 9/11. Have we even learned anything? Let's see i do not think so becaue if you are white you will always fine a way to fool the American people and be forgiven>Just like Bush now Christie. So what bush will we will we hang Obama from. For trying to help the American people. If you love power,money and dishonesty you can have your cake and eat it too.