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Open Thread - 3/16/2014

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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P A (117)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 12:56 am
Goodness me TomCat – that volunteer authorisation sounds amazing – well done you for going for it – the prison must be convinced of your good work, mustn't they! Kudos indeed! Well done TC!!

TC I have tried every which way a number of times to watch the Upworthy clip of Jon Stewart's show – and I can't, not even on the normal Channel Four or Comedy Central that usually works – so I will just have to be envious of the rest of you who can watch it – which politician (presumably) was it who accidentally insulted the US in it?

I would suggest just a one word alteration in the last line of Krystal Clear's excellent peroration – not 'Do we want a society governed for the needs of the many or the desires of the few?!' I would have said GREEDS of the few. Good for her – and all like her!

Gloria picchetti (304)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 4:29 am
Wow TC the prisoners and the prison employees are lucky to have you. If this is the world's best medical system why haven't I seen a doctor in five years? No money. No insurance. What if something goes wrong? Bye bye - that's what.
I voted early yesterday. I can't wait until real election day to hear the results.
Puzzle time 5:23.

Pat B (356)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 5:27 am
Upworthy: WoW.!!! Our health care in this country is pathetic. Stan Brock-Founder of Remote Area Medical and Aasif were in Knoxville, TN., with the sick and poor folks who needed medical attention. WTG, Aasif's slam dunk to Todd Wilemon's comments was spot on.!! Wilemon is a (FOX commentator).
We rank 37th, with France 1st, Italy 2nd, and San Marino being 3rd for great health care.
New Yorker: Classic Andy.!! It would be hysterical, if it wasn't so sad.!!
You sound like you are going to be very busy with your studying, taking your exam, and getting ready for your orientation. You are committed, and dedicated for helping your guys. Bravo to you.!!
Do take good care, and Thanks, Tom.

Jim P (3257)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 6:48 am
NEW YORKER: Another waste of time and money, for Congress, with the idea of impeaching Obama as it is to repeal the HealthCare/ACA for the 51st time at 1 million a pop.!

SHORT TAKES: UPWORTHY: America has the #1 health care system in the world.

Third World Health Care: Knoxville, Tennessee

6 minute excerpt from Jon Stewart Show, Thursday, March 6, 2014 via HULU.

"At 4:00 is the most awkward 15 seconds I’ve seen in quite some time."

KOS: Excellent commentary by Krystal Clear. Have a listen.

We need to continue the "War on Poverty", not the continuation of the "War for War".

Mitchell D (87)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 7:06 am
Crystal nails it! I've not heard that distinction between the corporate Dems and the more egalitarian ones, before, and I believe it to be quite spot on.
I'm reading "A People's History of the United States," by Howard Zinn, as suggested in these "pages" some time ago.
He reinforces the point made in "Democracy for the Few," by Michael Parenti, that the U.S.A. began with a strong bias in favor of the already favored and wealthy, and that bias continues in the way our system is designed to support th plutocracy. This all comes together when one looks at the health care system, which supports the continuing accretion of wealth to the major insurance companies, which used to be known for owning the GOP.

Arielle S (313)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 7:25 am
No moss growing over you, TomCat - you are like the Energizer Bunny, just going and going and doing so much good for so many, Bravo!!
Bravo to Andy Borowitz, too, for capturing the GOP thought waves in a few paragraphs.
And huge kudos to Jon Stewart for debunking that "best in the world" crapola. The brainwashing propaganda no longer works and the powers that be should be embarrassed to keep pretending it does.

Lona G (80)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 9:54 am
Good luck with your exam, TomCat. I've no doubt you'll breeze through it. Getting to this next level of volunteers authorization must really give you a sense of accomplishment. Fantastic.

Upworthy: This particular episode from the Daily Show is one of the best I've ever seen. It's absolutely hilarious and the face of the Fox news commentator when he realizes he's been set up in front of a camera is absolutely priceless. Not what he says next, however: "If you're poor just stop being poor". Even him being stunned for 15 seconds can't prevent him from giving the typical Fox knee-jerk reaction: blame the victims for being victims. I must say I have some admiration for the way Fox has conditioned their staff to respond even under the greatest pressure.

The New Yorker: Andy is so right on with this one that it's no longer satirical and a couldn't really laugh about it. Because this seems to be exactly what the GOP/TP thinks.

Daily Kos: Great to see that there are some very inspirational young "lefties" rising from the masses of young voters and analysing the situation to a tee. Her show is very aptly named. I love Bernie and Elizabeth and the other 'oldies' of my own generation or the one before it, but hearing Crystal gives me something more: hope.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 10:20 am
7:13 but it could have been worse. I could have stopped to change the battery DURING the puzzle.

Upworthy - Third world health conditions within the US are a big part of why Wendell Potter left the health insurance industry for an honest job. This film is great. I have a nagging feeling it was shot out of order though. I don't see Todd Wilemon getting all cheery-conspiratorial-high-five with Aasif after that scene at 4:00. Republicans are too angry.

New Yorker - I wish he could! Yeah, in a way he did, but it can only apply to Federal and Federal contractor employees. Some of the people who badly need the minimum wage increase are small business owners who would love to increase their employees' compensation but would get undercut out of business unless everyone else does it too.

Daily Kos - "We need to be taking control of the Democratic Party at the grassroots level as though every year was an election year." Fine. Agreed. Let's go do it, you guys. You guys? Hello? Where are you? I can't do this alone!
And while we go play hide and seek, the brainwashed GOP stay in power. Worse, they tie us up in legislation and court decisions designed to keep them that way. (The TPP comes to mind.)
Sure, their ideology is completely discredited. Unfortunately that fact doesn't stop the juggernaut.

Cartoon: I'm not ready to say "It's over. We lost." But we have had a lot of losses.

Multiple congratulations on your selection for what I'm going to call a promotion - because it is. I can't post a picture, but I can post a ridiculous unwieldy link to one.

Winn A (179)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 12:04 pm
Wow, Tom Cat - you're on fire . . . Good for you!

David C (131)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 1:36 pm if the world if you are wealthy, a famous athlete, or entertainer.......

Birgit W (160)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 2:14 pm
Thanks for sharing.

JL A (281)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 5:44 pm
Getting a lot more people to run for local office with progressive vision may be the place to start so they have the experience governing to weigh against the corporate manager's background who begins at state level since power rather than service may be the goal.

Good luck with your authorization--that could prove huge for opportunities to make a difference while walking with an inmate.

Kit B (276)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 5:52 pm

Time 3:48 - what was that? Wine, Champagne.....

It was one of these health care weekends that brought some harsh realities to Wendell Potter who then resigned from Aetna Health Insurance began speaking to the American public with a deep and knowledgeable understanding of how the insurance companies have been screwing us for so many years. Some may think this is only done in the south and they would be wrong, health fairs or whatever name is used are taken to all states, counties and cities and towns in the US. Though they continue to operate the group is in dire need of money, transportation and volunteers.

If the US were the BEST health care in the world, why would the US being number 37 in standing by the WHO? All of this "We are number One is fine for sports games, but this is our life, the lives of our children and their children. Now, I will agree we are number in cost. Obama care may help some but over all as long as health is for profit, it's a losing proposition for the public. Aasif Mandvi is one of my favorite "reporters" on the Daily Show.

Yep, Andy did it again and we both posted that.

I don't really care about who the republicans run, they had one chance in 2012 but didn't allow him a voice. John Huntsman is about as close as these neo-cons get to a moderate thinking man. His creative answers for the homeless in Utah was bold, brave fiscally logical and most important it worked.

Rand Paul, talks a good game but for a man that practices medicine without a license how could he ever be considered for the highest office? Ted Cruz, well I best not go there. There is not much I can say about him without using some very adult expressive language. Though I am sure he has to look up to see pond scum.

Some may think LBJ and only remember Vietnam, but poverty was the real issue that he cared about. Why must everything we attempt to ameliorate always be viewed through the lens of war? There is no winning a WAR on poverty. There are ways to help people help themselves up and out of poverty but it can not be bombed, shot or conquered. Ending poverty is one the most noble of goals and should not be compared to an act of violence.

Thanks for an interesting collection of news things, TC and best of luck with the test and new position.

Gary L (138)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 8:23 pm
thanks TC we need much more exposure of the right wing lie machine AKA fox snooze

Edith B (146)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 10:09 pm
Congrats on your new position, I know you will qualify for it. You will be an asset. Take care of yourself while you are preparing. We need you here to keep us on our toes.

Upworthy: The Repbs don't have an answer when they are presented the truth. My mother was taken to the ER last week, a true emergency. The lobby was full of people with various illnesses that could have been taken care of by an MD, but they had no money to pay for it.

The New Yorker" Andy always gets it right.

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Daily KOs: I have never seen her before, but she is sooooo right.

Cartoon: LBJ tried to help the people who were destitute, the war continues. Will it ever be won? NOt while the GOP is calling the shots.

Charlene Rush (79)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 10:14 pm
That short take on healthcare made my day.

TomCat S (129)
Monday March 17, 2014, 12:07 am
Damn spammer!

Thanks all. Great comments.

Pat, I do everything I can to find alternate clips when one cannot be viewed by our international readers. Sometimes I can't. I'm sorry.

Lynn Squance (235)
Monday March 17, 2014, 12:40 am
Puzzle — 3:11 I was more less with the flow but carried away with its sweet nectar.

Upworthy — I've seen that one before. The Faux Noise commentator was almost speechless near the end. Too bad the fool wasn't speechless! All these Republicanus/Teabaggers are heartless and soulless idiots. Healthcare for everyone . . . as long as you can pay for it! If you can't pay for it, that is your fault. Assholes!!

The New Yorker — LOL! Andy did it yet again! He has the Republicanus/Teabaggers pegged!

Daily Kos — Krystal is on the ball and hit a home run.

Cartoon — As long as there are Republicanus/Teabaggers abounding, the war on poverty will be needed. LBJ knew what needed to be done. I hope that today's Democrats can make happen what LBJ didn't have time to do. We know we can't count on the GOP.

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James Maynard (84)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:33 pm
Best wishes for getting that
position TC.
Mandvi, Ball and Borowitz
are all on-target - brilliant!
Tried to go with the flow
and got washed away....
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