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Open Thread - 3/22/2014

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Gloria picchetti (304)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:48 am
I voted to do nothing about the Ukraine.

Puzzle time 6:32.

Lona G (80)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 6:05 am
So glad you got your spam filter for your e-mails to work again, TomCat, and that you've recovered everything that was missing. Things like that can really take it out of you, I know, and Murphy will tell you that it always happens at the most inappropriate moment.

NY Times. Kudos to Harry Reid for taking no crap from the CIA and their Republican cronies, not going on the defence as he was want to do, but cutting short any allegations as soon as they are brought up and refute them with hard evidence. Not that it will shut the CIA/GOp up; they're still crying "Bengazi" even after the umpteenth report, but it gives him the upper hand. And that feels so good, doesn't it, Harry?

Alternet: Obama proposes something and the GOP's knee-jerk reaction is: condemn it. If Obama would propose something they had proposed themselves (take the ACA for instance) they still would condemn it. It's hard-wired by their hatred for him. It has little to do with hard-working Americans - they probably never even thought about them - but it has the nice side-effect that it'll save their masters another few billion dollars on salaries, so they'll get a nice pat on the back from them too.

Huffington Post: Well, you must admit, it had been a little quite on this front, nothing much to be outraged about as most abortion clinics have been pushed out of business in the red states, so what is a GOP-er to do? You start digging in some history and make up something to be outraged about in an effort to defund a group that your legislature can't reach. And the bought media will always go along, they need their funding too. Hand over the barf bag again, TomCat.

Great Cartoon: the day another form of slavery was ended.

Arielle S (313)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 6:30 am
Why are there only 12 Republicans in heaven?
If there were any more, it'd be hell.

David C (129)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 7:44 am
I am wondering who the 12 Republicans in heaven are.....

Pat B (356)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:40 am
NY Times: WTG, Mr. Reid, and Ms.Feinstein for making the move in the right direction in this investigation.It will be interesting to hear what info they do find.
Things Republicans Believe: 1. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay. 2. HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart. Source:
Hope that you have a great day, take care, and thanks, Tom.


Joanne Dixon (38)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:50 am

6:25 Forgot one is supposed to relax after sitting on the bench, not while putting it togrther.

NY Times - These Republicans who are supporting the CIA seem to have conveniently forgotten that the CIA has no mission to investigate any senator, If needed, that is the mission of the FBI. So even if they were "provoked" which as Senator Reid says seems patently ridiculous - there is no "stand your ground" law in espionage - they should have referred the situation to the FBI. "Arrogant" may be the kindest thing to be said about it. "Illegal," "Abusive," and Unconstitutional" go more to the point.

Alternet - But they do approve of wage theft. They give CEO bonuses for that.

HuffPost - I find it breathtaking that Republicans who seem fine with wearing an instrument of torture and execution on a chain around their necks to memorialize Republican supply-side Jesus are unhappy with anyone wearing an instrument of torture and death on a chain around their necks to memorialize contemporary victims of their oppression.

Cartoon - Yeah.. Well, it functioned. In a way. So did slavery.

12 Republicans in heaven? I can think of one - Abraham Lincoln. Perhaps the others are all from the same time frame. Eisenhower is iffy - he did brave public opinion to push school segregation. Of course that was when the Constitution meant something.

P A (117)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 9:00 am
The Republicare cartoon is very apt and positively painful to see – it should be everywhere!

Must go – kidney stone…

Kit B (276)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 11:26 am

Time - 2:39 --- I'm not gonna get benched!

Good on ya, Harry Reid, the CIA is definitely in need of oversight, which has been lacking for so many years.

That damn Obama wanting to increase minimum wages and pay workers for overtime, he must be a commie.
Alan Greenspan has the right idea: --Alan Greenspan says our skilled workers are paid too much -- and recommends we open a "significant window of skilled workers" to come to the US and eliminate the remaining concentration of higher pay for skilled jobs in the American workforce -- equalizing wages with the unskilled workers. Greenspan would apparently like to see doctors and technicians make what burger flippers are making. -- Yep, another stupid idea from the man help bring this country to it's knees.

The so called "discussion" about minimum wage is a slap in the face to those who paid for training and worked for years to polish their skills only to be told they do not deserve fair wages. All the while Congress works about 2 days a week, gives unto themselves raises as they please and dares to call others "welfare queens". We know who are the real welfare queens; the Congress and every corporation taking our tax dollars in subsidies. Subsidies we are told keep prices down. So why are prices continuing to go up?

Abortion by coat hanger is no laughing matter, desperation drives people to do things that can often kill them. I don't think anyone likes the idea of abortion, but it sure does not belong in the hands of Congress. Personal private issues belong as confidence between a woman and her doctor. When Congress stops supporting insurance payments for penis pumps and Viagra, I will stand and applaud. Not because I think that it should not be covered, cover any medical treatment, in fact cover all medical treatments, but do not single out women. Whether it's an abortion or birth control, mind your business and I will mind my own. That is for Congress, insurance companies and the miserable excuse used by employers about their own personal religious views. Have any religious view that makes you happy, but do not inflict or force that view on others.

I hear there is a TV show about polygamy - so again one standard for men another for women.

Thanks TC!

Avril Lomas (0)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 12:53 pm
An investigation??? Whoopie .Issa will be turning cartwheels. Another chance for Mr DeMille to get his close up. I find it interesting that ,in my opinion, the largest collection of :takers" resides in the Congress and Senate of the USA.How dare they critisize others. ! and dare to complain re. ACA. whilst enjoying taxpayer funded Universal health care. $174,000,salary, a pension and pockets full of lobbyist money..
However , With the exception of Harry Reid, I think that our democratic reps ALL need to be treated for
LOW T. I was always taught that the best defence was OFFENSE.!
All the best TC. hope you are OK.

Gary L (138)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:29 pm
Thanks TC the Hypocrisy of the right wing nut jobs and their cronies at the CIA is breath taking for it's arrogance about time someone pulled their collective pants down and gave them a spanking

Terrie Williams (798)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 1:51 pm
Harry must have gotten that little package I sent him...(can of Insta-Shine).... :)

Fascist antics......SSDD Dawg forbid the people who toil and actually WORK for a subsistence living in AmuriKKKa have the temerity to actually want to be PAID for their WORK. Oh, no no no no no....can't have that, everyone's money IS their money and they need it so much more than we do.......sickening, sorry-a$$ed POS Fascist Basta*ds.

Pssssst, hey, you Rethuglifascfistfundy basta*ds.....stay the hell out of my vagina already. Coat hangers are no laughing matter when it comes to women who are desperate. Do we really want to go back to the time before 1973? NOPE. However......having said that.........(ehem, my best Joan Crawford voice....)

NO....WIRE....HANGERS.....EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Where's Ayn Ryan, c' a little somethin somethin fer ya.....)

'Toon....ya know dontcha Cat Daddy.....Utah actually repealed part of that law so that Polygamists 'no longer have to fear being arrested for their "FAITH".....sigh....all because that family on TV were 'fearful' so they instigated a challenge to the courts over this and they (state leg) repealed part of the law. They can now be openly polygamist in Utah. So much for the law. All I wanna know is.......when can women start collecting husbands like polygamists collect wives? HHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM?????? Yeah, not......


Birgit W (160)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 2:08 pm
Thanks TC.

JL A (281)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 7:01 pm
Since Bush the 1st was once CIA, apparently defending Bushes requires defending the CIA whether right or wrong. Kudos to Reid and Di Fi.

When you despise everyone different than yourself it is amazing how many you come to despise and thus fail to represent.

Coat hangers are indeed insurance for preventing the next unwanted pregnancy along with any wanted pregnancy, if you survive.

Edith B (146)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:44 pm
I am so happy to learn that Harry is fighting back. I think the CIA has been over reaching its authority for a very long time and needs to be put on a leash.

Alternet: I can't imagine that anyone is surprised that the GOP hates the hard working people, too. We are part of the 47% who "leech off the government" for our Social Security and Medicare. We can't make huge donations to their campaign chests, therefore we are the enemy. How and why people keep voting for these cretins is beyond my imagination.

Huffington Post: Coat hangers used to be free, you got them from the drycleaner. The GOP was happy, we were obliged to pay for a service owned by a millionaire and had this handy little birth control device given to us. No cost to the government or the insurance companies. Don't you just love their outrage?

Cartoon: HMMM. TC are you sure you would really want a passle of wives?

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:45 pm
Puzzle — 3:23 Comfy looking seat but I have to wait until Kitty Kitty is finished lounging!

NY Times — CIA representative Dean Boyd said:

"…“We are a far better organization because of congressional oversight, and we will do whatever we can to be responsive to the elected representatives of the American people.”"

Add the caveat . . . "…as long as it agrees with our goals and interests."

Good on Harry for ordering the forensic audit of computers.

Alternet — Does this mean that those Americans employed on a fulltime basis, yet who do not work fulltime, . . . think Congress Critters like Lyin' Ryan who I read this week works about 2 days a week . . . will have their salaries clawed back? Seems very fair to me especially when Congress worked so little and accomplished even less because of Republicanus/Teabagger obstruction and other shenanigans!

Huffington Post — As I recall, there was a Republicanus/Teabagger who sought an abortion for his mistress. I guess it is "do as I say, not as I do.

Cartoon — Good move! It seems to me that one spouse would be enough! But then what do I know being single! But then, for Republicanus/Teabaggers it is likely all about control and power.

Katie & Bill D (107)
Saturday March 22, 2014, 8:59 pm
Seems as if the repubs are against what is good for them. Perhaps nothing is thought thru!
Just against everything that is good! And if it makes Obama look bad!
Perhaps they need to reach in the back pocket and scoop out some common sense!!
Thank you TomCat

TomCat S (128)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 12:28 am
Thanks all. Exhausting day. I'm in pit-stop mode.

Kit B (276)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 12:35 pm

SPAM - flagged and reported.

James Maynard (84)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 3:03 pm
Hate when my technology acts up.
Good on Harry.
No, no horns.
Coat hanger graphic is was too true.
I get some bench time as my score
was only 20 secs.over average.

marie C (163)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 6:16 pm
Spam flagged and reported Thanks Tomcat
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