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Open Thread - 3/25/2014


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread, videos )

TomCat
- 522 days ago - politicsplus.org
Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).



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Gloria picchetti (302)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 2:14 am
How busy Tom Cat? Busier than a republican stealing groceries at a food bank! Love it!

President Carter said he uses the real mail so no one can look at email.

I restarted the puzzle twice. It took me over eight minutes. I felt as if I was letting the poor dog down!
 

Pat A. (117)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 4:49 am
Ex-President Carter says when he wants to discuss something with a foreign leader he sends them a handwritten letter via snailmail as he feels his communications are being monitored! I respected and respect Jimmy Carter more than any other presidents the US has had – and more than our leaders over here – it just goes to show I suppose, if you stand up for principles then you will be suspected by the Right Wingers of anything and everything!

Oh that horrid Koch politician! Whenever a politician says 'I have to be honest…' I always a) start laughing and b) don't believe a word they say – and especially here when he talked over that woman to the howls and cheers of his supporters there. Thus died free speech!

Mike Rogers feels that small arms distributed to an untrained populace in Ukraine would win against armed forces equipped with monster tanks and missiles??!! Has this belicose dimwit had any experience of active service? Just asking – as the most belicose people usually haven't – such as GWB and his cronies. If the West weighs in with weapons, then it will be inviting WWIII – but the Reich Wingers don't care about that as they are convinced that the Rapture will then happen and are deluded enough to think that they will all go up into Heaven! (They won't of course as they have ignored all of Jesus' teachings to care for the poor and the sick etc – poor souls – but the belicose Right will doubtless destroy everything else with them, if given the chance.).

 

Pat A. (117)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 5:19 am
Oh dear, I am silly - I have just realised that of course Mr Rogers wants the Ukrainian people to lose - the Right Wingers all admire Mr Putin don't they? God help the Ukrainians!
 

Robert B. (60)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 6:47 am
I'd like to know what freedoms the Kochroach brothers are trying to protect. It certainly isn't the freedom of a FAIR Democracy. They are nothing more than stinking rich bullies with no sense of what real freedom is. They are FRAUDS.
 

Lona Goudswaard (78)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 6:51 am
its good to hear that you are so busy, TomCat. It must mean that the move to the new apartment has done you a world of good, that you're health is slowly improving and you feel you can take on a lot of thing. But take care, its the same with heaping food on your plate: if your eyes are bigger than your stomach, you're risking a belly-ache / exhaustion.

The Guardian: It's a very sorry state of affairs if one of the the most respected former presidents doesn't trust his own governments agencies and feels the need to communicate with world leaders by post. Why would they be so scared of the most honest one among them? Probably that he will speak out and tell the truth.

TPM: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers wants to send in some military aid, mainly spy material, to the eastern borders of Ukraine, just because he wants to make Obama look bad (again). How did he become chairman? By leaving the little intelligence he's got at the door? This man is a menace to world security, get rid of him.

Crooks and Liars: Thank goodness I'd already digested most of my lunch when I started the video. Just the thought that Dave Vitter is honest about who is paying for his seat and his propaganda kept the rest of it down. All shame has left the GOP, the Kochs have clearly declared it pay-back time and their footsoldiers can't sing their praise hard enough.

Cartoon: I must have missed something here, which candidates sounded almost sane?
 

Arielle S. (316)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 7:37 am
Jimmy Carter - one of the most under-rated, under-appreciated presidents ever. If he says a thing, I believe him.

Then there are the bloody war mongers who should all be sent to the far reaches of the earth to battle each other in hand to hand combat until there is only one left. Him, we'll send to Russia.
 

David C. (236)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 8:27 am
Glad to see there is at least one other person using "snail mail" more than email....

If you're like me and don't like The Koch (brothers or planet killers) & Tom doesn't mind me doing this (Tom, if you do please report or erase my post if you want) then please sign my petition to the Koch Brothers

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/787/622/233/koch-brothers-dont-you-care-about-leaving-a-healthy-earth-for-your-grandchildren/

....and look for a new one in a few days maybe depending on how busy I am....
 

Joanne Dixon (33)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 8:41 am
5:45 So tie-tie! And the dog too.

Guardian - I certainly agree with your assessment of Jimmy Carter - and also with your assessment of intelligence agencies.

TPM - We need to take the Defnse Department's money and its toys away, and how we are going to do that in the present state of Congress I have no idea.

Crooks and Liars - Barf bag Alert indeed. I already saw this and barfed, I'm not going to look again.

Cartoon - Well, certainly not Rogers and Vitter.
 

JL A. (286)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 9:10 am
Jimmy laid the groundwork for ethical foreign and domestic policies--do any shreds of that framework remain to help us with the Ukraine or anywhere else?
 

Deb E. (63)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 11:14 am
President Carter was a prime example of why no one who is honest and nice can do anything once in the White House. Just like Obama, he was set up to fail by the Republicans. They hated his honesty. They hated that he stood for the people. And they fought him on everything and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Iran hostage crisis was if not brought about, at least made to last longer than necessary, to make him look bad. I know that the reason it wasn't settled was due to the elections coming up. They get released when Nixon comes in? Can we say any more obvious that a hand was played to make that not happen so that Carter couldn't get re-elected? If an honest person wants to swim with the sharks in DC, they have to decide to play the shark game or they will go down. Doesn't mean they can't stay honest, but they gotta play really tough. And that is why Obama has failed. He should be ripping them all a new one but instead he plays Mr. Nice Guy.

War does not have to be fought anymore by losing thousands of lives on the battlefields. Russia knows it and so does America's military. If we put troops on the ground or even begin setting up a bunch of military personnel on that border, Putin is crazy enough to blow us all up. Keeping sanctions ramped up is the only way to wage war against his invasions. And we should also be sanctioning any country that sides with Russia's move to take over free countries IF Russia moves on any other little country in that region. I cannot believe the people who are so eager to put our soldiers in harms way when we STILL aren't done with the last freaking war! They remind me of the Queen of Hearts with her pelicans for croquet mallets ... Off with their heads! Sheeesh.
 

Pat B. (355)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 11:51 am
The Guardian: Isn't that alful? Mr. Carter has earned the admiration and respect of many people. I believe what he says, that his communications could/or/are being monitored, good decision on his part to 'talk' by 'snail mail'.
TPM: No way, now how...Mr. Rogers. Aren't you learning anything from the war we are involved in now??
Crooks and Liars: Yuck!! Yes, he does wet his diaper(s), and leaves a trail of foam from his mouth when he talks.
Try and do things a little at a time. Don't overload yourself, as your health is important. Do take good care, enjoy your day, and thanks, Tom.


 

Terrie Williams (784)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 2:16 pm
I respect Mr. Cater and he is one of the few politicians that can be believed when his lips move. I have no doubt his communications are monitored. They probably intercept is snail mail and peruse that as well before letting it go forward. I would never put it past them.

Mr. Rogers needs to have a gag shoved in his facial orifice and taken to a dark alley....nevermind. I loathe, no....I am past loathing and full into the hate zone now, I HATE friggin Fascist Basta*ds like HIM who blithely talk of starting frigging WWIII like it's nothing. Let HIM go over there and let HIM train Ukrainian militiamen how to use our arms, etc, etc....let HIM do the dying for once....or HIS children. I am so SICK of war and I am so SICK of Rethuglifacist INSECTS (sorry real insects) who have never served a single day in the military or been deferred several times, who have absolutely NO concept of what real on-the-ground-warfare is all about...just sitting safely in their mansions, calling for war, starting war, dreaming of war, getting filthy RICH from war, etc etc ad nausium. Apparently, this ignernt POS doesn't or does, who the hell knows, that Mr. Manly Puty-Poot would like nothing better than to play a game of Oblivion.

I need to frikken stop. So I'll stut up now. Thanks, Cat Man, After listening to Diaper Dan, I need to go hurl. The Kochroaches, Patriotic.......no, Mr. Potty \-Pants.....Kochroaches = TRAITORS/Fascists. Ya sycophant.

OK, now I'm done.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 2:51 pm
Pres. Carter is proof some people are just too honest & caring to be a politician. I think of him as a Statesman.
I imagine the Alphabet Agencies are monitoring ALL ex-Pres. & CONgre$$ critters & their families, friends, etc.. probably not just the bulk data collection either, I'd bet somebody Actually Reads each one!
 

Birgit W. (153)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 3:07 pm
I have the highest respect for Mr. Carter. Thanks.
 

James Maynard (74)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 3:26 pm
Hate to mention this, but, his letters
are probably being monitored as
well. Pretty easy to x-ray. I too am
a fan of the former President.
I have no hope for Mssrs. Rogers
and Vitter.
Welllll, the dog got tired of waiting
for me and left.......
 

Debbie S. (31)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 4:53 pm
President Carter was one of the few honest presidents and he also had a conscience! We still use the post office a lot as much as possible ourselves
 

Debbie S. (31)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 4:56 pm
Speaking of this if any of you get the chance to see Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States there are 10 parts to it but very well worth watching. Very enlightening and disturbing at the same time. I think every American should watch this.
 

Edith B. (145)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 9:50 pm
If you are busier than a Republican stealing from food banks you need to eliminate a few things!

I agree with you about Jimmy Carter. He is an honest man and that is one of the reasons he was so detested by Washington, they could not corrupt him.

TPM: I heard Rogers say this, what an idiot, and he is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Crooks and Liars: Barf bag alert needed on this one. I would love to see his bank statement so we would know how much the Kochs have given to him.

Cartoon: This is about right. The Tea Party is getting rid of any Rep who is half sane.
 

TomCat S. (217)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 1:07 am
Dang! Two Republican spammers in one thread. :-(

Thanks all,
 

Birgitta S. (206)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 7:21 am
TY, TomCat. && TY! Dave C - signed your´s
 

Jamie Clemons (280)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 1:20 pm
I had much more respect for Carter than for Obusha. I think we should stay out of the Ukrain and not support a violent right-wing neo-nazi group that overthrew the government there. We already have our hands meddling in enough countries. The NSA should not be spying on anyone without a search warrant.
 

. (0)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 7:35 pm
arigato
 

Franck R. (51)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 10:37 pm
Thanks for sharing
 

Dan Nickerson (180)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 10:55 pm
Look at your life accomplishments and then try to compare them to President Jimmy Carter. It's sobering. "There are some things money just can't buy like: common sense, intelligence, compassion, manners, morals and empathy..." President Jimmy Carter
 

Elizabeth M. (68)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 11:33 pm
I really admire Jimmy Carter for his honesty and caring. A politician with a conscience is hard to find anymore.
Mr. Rogers, I wouldn't want you living in my neighborhood, haven't we had enough of war. The worst thing we could do is get involved with Russia and the Ukraine. House of Intelligence, no wonder we have problems.
The dog ran away before I finished! Crooks & Liars This guy makes me barf!! His diaper is hanging so low because his pockets were all full and that is where the rest of the money is going.
Thanks for sharing Tom, and take it a bit easier!
 

TomCat S. (217)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 1:00 am
Thanks to most.

Jamie, the Republicans must appreciate your help. Obama has flaws, but comparing him to Bush is extreme lunacy.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 2:41 am
Agreed TomCat. Comparing Obama to Bush?? Please!! Apples and oranges!!!
 

A F. (129)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 6:16 pm
Thanks Tom
 

Sheila D. (26)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 8:58 pm
President Carter was too honest for the job, that's why the rabid Right wanted him out and tried so hard to destroy him. He's actually much more effective now than he was in the White House.
To Deb E.; they didn't prolong the Iran problem so much as they waited until Carter was out of office and then Reagan negotiated with them, which we had all been told was not going to happen. After all, we didn't (and don't) negotiate with terrorists, and that's exactly what they were. He even sold them guns as part of the negotiations; one of many reasons I think Reagan was one of our worst presidents ever.
Thanks for the post, TomCat.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 28, 2014, 2:37 am
Spam flagged. Facepalm!!
 

Jhn Wzt (3)
Friday March 28, 2014, 1:24 pm
ofc they want to send equipment to ukraina 2 provoke putin 2 invade n use it as an xcuse for war :)
its 2014 100 yrs since ww1 n they want a new one or atleast some "big bad wolf" 2 use as an xcuse 2 spy even more at home & abroad
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday March 28, 2014, 2:17 pm
Hi TC. How areyou?.
Look out folks. ISSA is at it AGAIN!.Wasting OUR time ,(we could be working on jobs,infrastructure ,immigration reform.etc.etc.BUT NO. Having found NO evidence or improper behaviour,(apart from HIS. (see mike cut off)
He has put on his make up and started ALL over again!
Here is the thing ,Up to now
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday March 28, 2014, 2:25 pm
Hi in completion. Up to now this egotistical twit has wasted $14,million .he happens to be the richest man in congress so how about him pitching in and reimbursing the American taxpayers .
Also ,whilst I am on a rant. Since OUR reps only "work"126 days per annum,and are in fact part timers I suggest that they go on the clock !.
ANYONE?!
 

Diane O. (193)
Friday March 28, 2014, 4:00 pm
Let us please not use selective memory when trying to honor a one term president...Jimmy Carter. When Reagan won, Jimmy Carter handed him 24% mortgage interest rates, inflation, recession and a colossally failed foreign policy record ...think the American Embassy hostage crisis in Iran. Extraordinarily bad leadership IMO.

Jimmy Carter wasn't "too honest" for the job IMO he was incompetent for the job. Obama's foreign policy is Jimmy Carter redux. If the liberals want to honor two incompetents who had/have zero leadership skills, then I acknowledge your freedom of speech. That's the best I can do. The facts are the facts. Selective memory should be challenged with the record.
 

Angela J. (61)
Friday March 28, 2014, 9:40 pm
Thank you.
 

Jae A. (320)
Sunday March 30, 2014, 12:58 am
Diane O.....all that coming from a Dubya Bush fan..now that's just funny .

As for two 'most incompetent Presidents of all time....well that would have to be Reagan and Dubya who win that one hands down Diane O. ..but thanks for playing all the same.
 

Diane O. (193)
Sunday March 30, 2014, 2:32 am
Look at Jimmy Carter's record. Selective memory makes a weak argument. I'd take Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush back today to remind us what real leadership looked like "back in the day." Obama's popularity rating is around 35%. The ACA approval act rating is down to 26%. I don't need to add more than that to prove my point.
 

Marlene Dinkins (265)
Sunday March 30, 2014, 1:32 pm
noted ty for the article!!!!!
 

Jaime Alves (42)
Monday March 31, 2014, 2:30 am
Noted.
 

Aaron Bouchard (154)
Monday March 31, 2014, 2:06 pm
noted thank you
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Tuesday April 1, 2014, 12:04 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Elise swansborough (10)
Tuesday April 1, 2014, 1:10 pm
I have always been particularly fond of Mr. Carter. He seems to me to be a genuine, honest, caring and compassionate man.
 

Diane O. (193)
Tuesday April 1, 2014, 2:57 pm
President Carter may be a genuine, honest, caring and compassionate man but he was one lousy president. History was NOT kind to Jimmy because of his lack of leadership skills. He was a one term president for a reason....the American voters didn't want him back for another term. Imagine....you, your friends and family facing a 24% mortgage interest rate buying a home. It was rough. I remember it well. Now add inflation, deflation and blatant stupidity when he botched our foreign affairs situation and you'll see Carter's face beside it.

IMO Obama will take Carter's place in history but for different reasons....all of them bad for our country.
 
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