Thursday April 17, 2014, 12:40 am
I have long said That Al Dubya (as in G Dubya Bush) is far more dangerous, when it comes to terrorism in the US, than Al Qaeda ever was. For out latest example, here’s a white supremacist hate-crime, how his tea party mayor supports him, his sordid history, and how the hate groups that the Republican Party has embraced are linked together in a terror network.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 2:11 am
This article is disturbing on so many levels, I don't really know where to begin.
You can leave it up to Rachel Maddow and her team to do a very well researched item on this network of white supremacists and we can be sure that this network exists. We can also be fairly sure that the Homeland Security report will confirm the existence of this network. The fact that the Republicans oppose this report coming out leaves me little room for any other conclusion than that there are links between some Republicans in some levels of office and this network of right terrorists. I don't believe the Republicans oppose the report coming out into the open just because so many of their voters like mayor Dan Clevenger sympathise with these white supremacists. Frazier Glenn Miller was known to the FBI for what he was for more than 20 years, but his terrorist activities were wilfully ignored. That takes more than just a mayor to sympathise with him.
If Rachel can find all these websites where these terrorists were openly spewing their hatred, how come the NSA weren't on to him and why haven't they prevented the killing of these three innocent people, and the 31 before them for that matter? This network seems to be protected from above and exempt from investigation. There are some terrible secrets lurking in the darkness.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 6:03 am
Homeland security has made travelling so tough for no really productive purposes
the only catch I ever saw them make was discovering a soldier in a sixty plus woman's handbag
Want to protest the government then please do, in any organized and honest matter that makes you feel good. When guns of any kind become a part of that protest it moves from being a protest to armed insurgency. Armed insurgency needs to be dealt with quickly and effectively. We tend to think of armed insurgents as happening in other countries like, Burma, the Philippines, and of course in Syria. Now our government must treat these self appointed "patriots" as the terrorists they clearly are. Next time, just call out the National Guard, end this immediately. We are coddling them and pretending they have a right to break the law, they do not.
Miller deserves only one thing from us, to spend the last of his years in a cold dark prison cell. He is responsible for many other terror acts over the years and this can not be tolerated. He is nice as long you are the same color and religion, that is not a nice person, that is vile. That is the antithesis of every thing the US stands for. Freedom is not selective by any measure, it means an open and honest society. People like Miller poison the well for all of us. Should the state decide he has earned the death penalty, than I would say he has over his many years as a terrorist, earned that final end.
The Aryan Nation Church is nothing but a front for illegal activities that include but are not limited to counterfeiting, drug running and any enterprise that makes money on the Black Market. Eastern Washington state, Idaho, Montana and a few other states have long harbored these groups. We need not be meek when addressing groups of terrorist. Take them down and end this, ending law and order as we know it is part of their agenda.
If any republican elected official wishes to stand up for these terrorists, let them do so loudly and be held accountable for their own act of treason.
How quickly and loudly US citizens will demand the government take down any foreign terror group but will defend those who are home grown. Hypocrisy of the worst kind.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 8:53 am
What a disgusting and pathetic pile of bones passing as human that guy is.... another shower of stars to Kit for saying what should be said and done - there is NOTHING to be proud about in what these hate groups do. There is no reason for the rest of us to put up with them. Homeland Security (are you listening, guys?) needs to stop with the prissy stuff and go after the true terrorists among us.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 10:14 am
""He was always nice and friendly and respectful of elder people, you know, he respected his elders greatly. As long as they were the same color as him," Clevenger said while laughing, according to television station KSPR. "Very fair and honest and never had a bit of problems out of him." "
+++++++++++++++++ What a stirring recommendation! Makes you proud to be American, dunnit?
Thursday April 17, 2014, 10:58 am
Well, Rachel in covering the 1987 sedition trial makes a pretty good point, without exactly saying it, that when you can't get a conviction, you not only leave the perpetrator on the street to terrorize some more, but you make yourself a prime target. I would love to see these people imprisoned for life, but I would hate to see the best and brightest in our law enforcement, which is noticeably short on best and brightest, assassinated trying to accomplish that. I don't see that as an improvement in our society.
Additionally, since these "people" tend to hang together, in a state like Nevada (I know this isn't about that but it is in all our minds), how do you know the National Guard will even be on the right side? How do you know they won't side with the seditionists? Nameless is right that the mob is the Republican base.
No, I don't have a solution. I do agree that DHS needs to release the right wing terrorism report, even though it may be incomplete. Or there needs to be a whistleblower who will. But I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to blow the whistle in the current climate in the US.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 11:03 am
Missouri is SO RepubliCON (though most can't spell it, so TeaBaggers are friends & family Tweeters!)..only St. Louis is heavily Democrat (you know why..;) Springfield, MO. is full of Evangelical types. We lived there about two months way back in 76 & every freakin' day a "Baptist" would come by trying to "save me", usually with a converted Catholic in tow – I "might" have been impressed if the convert had been Jewish or Budist… My husband's dad & step-mom & her kids lived there. It was hilarious when Jimmy Carter won the election!
Thursday April 17, 2014, 11:18 am
I always thought a Real President would've demanded ALL terrorist groups disband - including Gangs & Reich-wing Militias! But then again, only a Terrorist-in-Charge could've allowed/instigated/enabled 9-11!
Thursday April 17, 2014, 1:08 pm
Something needs to be done and done now about the American terrorists running amok with guns and hate and killing on their minds. Any time they point a weapon at a government agent, they should be shot on the spot. They need to know that that behavior will not be tolerated. Thanks for the post, the rest of us need to be concerned at what is happening to our country and any legislators voted out who supports this activity. They are nothing but traitors and don't belong in our government in any capacity.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 2:42 pm
Remember the Leith, North Dakota man who was strolling the streets armed with the intent of making it a white-only town?
His plea bargain includes no longer beling allowed to own a gun.
He also must petition another state for residency.
Right now he has not yet accepted it in court.
He was also doing this kind of thing in Canada in the past.
Do you also know that John Paul Stevens, former Supreme Court Justice points out that the second amendment needs the words "when serving in the militia" to be inserted after the right of the people to keep and bear arms. . .
Chief Justice Warren Burger himself remarked that the Second Amendment “has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word ‘fraud,’ on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.” He meant the NRA and others' claim that the Constitution intended for people to be alble to collect guns and carry them, is false.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 4:04 pm
CA's DOJ successfully prosecuted quite a number of AB and other seditionists' cases in the 1980's and 1990's--often using organized crime and conspiracy statutes as part of the charges. Part of why No. CA no longer tends to be a part of the separatist territory with (parts of) ID, MT, NV, OR, WA any longer. The roots of the Aryan Nation link with the Aryan Brotherhood prison gang...nuff said.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 5:41 pm
It sure looks like InsHannity is calling for a bloody revolution. What? Then the winners have to live with the losers again?
I wanna a divorce!!!! Give the crazies 42% of the south.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 6:47 pm
The Republican party has been taken over. And the exact way it was infiltrated and taken over is how they intend to do the same with the entire United States. It absolutely needs to be stopped and stopped NOW!!
Thursday April 17, 2014, 7:28 pm
With the things that happened Mr. Cliven what's-his-name, there should be some kind of retooling of the "Right to Bear Arms" amendment! This was totally overboard.
And with this guy Cross or whatever name he is using now going on this killing spree, there has to be something done and FAST!! They act like they are empowered to do whatever the hell they want to!
The older gentleman is from where I live. He was a doctor and a very kind man.
I just can't imagine what gets into the heads of these people that do this kind of Nazi crimes!
I am sick of the far right doing what they want and not facing any repercussions for it! If it was me or mine, they would be in jail for the rest of their lives! How is it that they just skate on everything?? SMDH!!
Thursday April 17, 2014, 9:06 pm
I still can't get sound on your videos, TC, trying everything, so far nothing works.
I saw the mayor on a news report today, everything he said screamed "racist" and I am sure he is fully supported by most of his constituents. I grew up in one of the few small towns in Ky that had several different races, brought there for the mining jobs. I am grateful for that because I knew people who didn't look like me at an early age. Sadly, too many communities are not like that and racism seems to be inherent in communities that don't have diversity.
Frazier Glenn Miller is a terrorist and should be treated as such.
Thursday April 17, 2014, 11:54 pm
All seditionists and home grown terrorists should be treated as such and prosecuted and not let off the hook – what is the government doing, trying to encourage and enable them? Most bewildering!
Friday April 18, 2014, 6:07 am
"Remember the Leith, North Dakota man who was strolling the streets armed with the intent of making it a white-only town?"
Michael M., your comment reminded me of a TV documentary I saw recently called "Sundown Towns".
"Keith Beauchamp heads out on a cross-country road trip to investigate Sundown Towns; All-white towns where African-Americans were not allowed to set foot in after dark. Keith is determined to reveal that such towns still exist today"