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Open Thread - 5/9/2014

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Gloria picchetti (304)
Friday May 9, 2014, 5:50 am
Beautiful, fun leaf symmetry puzzle time; 5:45.

I use public trans because they don't have horses and stables in the city. I am the only person in the family who not only doesn't own a SUV and brag about how many big box stores I ran around to all day. I don't even know how to drive. Sometimes my best friend rents a Zip car to take me somewhere a little far away. After business is done we go to lunch.

Pat B (356)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:08 am
Upworthy: I took a little bus the other day just for fun. They come to your house, pick you up, and away you go. I think the pictures show what we need to do for future generations to protect our environment.
Daily Kos: What a mean, horrible thing to say to another person. If he talks like that in public (tweets), what is this man saying to members of his family. How ugly!! I would reconsider his running for the NY Senate seat also.
I bet that you're glad that you are done with all your paperwork, if not for a little while. That can be draining. I do hope you get a chance to rest a little. I'm off to volunteer at one of the elementary schools for the day, they are doing 'Field Day', which has really fun activities, plus a water slide. (No...not gonna do that!!)
Take care, and Thanks, Tom

Kit B (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:18 am

Time - 3:42

Melissa Harris Perry is very well known and we know that just as liberals must take notes from what the right is thinking or doing, often from Fox the right takes a look at MsNBC to see what the liberals are chatting about. Yep, the Pope is catholic, bears do not build indoor plumbing and Melissa Harris Perry is black. That is known and if there was any doubt, why use the one comparison that in the US has a universal meaning? The very ugly comparison of blacks and apes is done for only one reason, and we all know what that is, not a racist? That it rolls around in his head is proof of how this nincompoop thinks. The US has had public schools in every state since 1870 and long before that in many states. That does mean that children have been a part of the greater village for most of the history of our country.

If we pay any attention at all, then we all know that Greenland is gone, the arctic is gone with each a massive and steady increase in ocean levels. The Antarctic is now not guess work or a potential problem but is also in process of melting. All coastal cities will need to find ways to build massive sea walls, should you live in a country that can not afford to do that, the city will have to move inland. Any thoughts on what happens to public health or the very poor?

As the Arctic and Greenland ice has retracted it has opened areas for drilling, and that is our swan song. The drilling will continue, there will be continued efforts to stop and block the moves to sustainable technology. Lies and denial of climatic changes will continue and those who need to believe the lies will do so. As the old adage says, "You can lead a horse to water....". If you took your child to the doctor for help and 98 doctors said this the problem and this the solution but 2 doctors said no problem time will fix this. What would you do?

We must cut back carbon by at least 50% in the next ten years, but with deforestation continuing at the current rate, the reduction of carbon alone will not make a difference. Every prediction has been balanced for the safest of all possible out comes, each scientific study has made one tragic mistake. The scientists all believed for the past 40 years that no one would be able to ignore the coming drastic changes. The result of that is any thing that says in 100 years this could happen, must be now changed to in a hundred years this will be the state of things to come. Scientists do not like to make dire predictions, but now what possible choice is there?

Those who want to believe that god would not let this happen or will suddenly repair the earth, god gave you a brain and the ability to make choices. Our choices have all been toward building and supplementing the growth of corporations, not people. Corporations exist to make a profit, they have no sense of community, no personal conscience. We can not change what is, but we can make changes to ameliorate the rapid and growing death knell for this planet, if we have the will.

Thanks TC and best wishes for a great weekend. Happy Mother's day to all mom's and of course all grannies.

Robert B (60)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:54 am
When I lived in Germany and Austria we never had to have a car. You could get ANYWHERE with a reliable network of buses, street cars and trains. It was cheap and reliable. We used to have a lot of streetcars in this country until a major tire company bought them up and scrapped them in order to sell more tires. Here in this country most things are slanted to favor corporations and the almighty buck instead of the practical interests of the general public. In the long run, this will be very costly for us.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Friday May 9, 2014, 8:38 am
5:22 Everything is that symmetrical when it is so tiny it only has four leaves, but not everything is that yellow, and unless the pink is something interpolated by magnification and filters, I am at a loss what it might be.

Upworthy - Not everyone lives in cities either. Redesigning suburban and especially rural areas seems a bit more challenging. Being retired, I can opt not to go anywhere except for necessities (outside the city limits grocery delivery is not available, and might be prohibitively expensive if it were.) But not everyone can do that either.

Daily Kos - someone must have told him once years ago that being "color blind" is politically correct, and he misunderstood. Being a bigot, you know.

NY Times - This might be funny if it weren't so scary. Pakistan and Egypt - Egypt depending on flooding to have agriculture, and Pakistan mountainous and arid - how much worse can it get? Yes, I know I'm stereotyping and apologize to both countries. But that is the stereotype, and it's not the stereotype for most of the US - where do Republicans live anyway?

Cartoon - InsaniTEA inspector is exactly what TC is - he outs it wherever he finds it. Benghazi watchdogs, on the other hand, only out what they make up. Which is why there is so much for YC to find.

Mothers' Day - I am not a mother myself but I think this
is worth sharing (Kleenex alert).

Lona G (79)
Friday May 9, 2014, 8:59 am
Eight hours on the paperwork and the day counter is still going. Great job and willpower, TomCat.

Upworthy: If governments were willing to invest in infrastructure for bicycles and in upgrading and expanding public transport while drastically lowering its prices, i.e. making it more comfortable and cheaper to use it than a car, then carbon footprints would go down everywhere. But that would work against the fossil fuel lobby, wouldn't it, so fat chance of that.

Daily Kos: If it isn't a racist remark, but a quote from the Planet of the Apes, then it is a completely inane and meaningless remark, right, so why tweet that? You must really have a very low opinion of your fellow Americans, Mr. Coughlan, if you think them so stupid they'll buy your excuse. But of course it'll get you the vote from all true, I mean racist, Republicans who use that excuse all the time.

NY Times: All in all, Americans should consider the GOP to be the major threat to their country as well as the planet and to the well-being of every one.

Cartoon: One of the best this year, TomCat! Also explains why you're such a busy feline.

JL A (281)
Friday May 9, 2014, 9:04 am
In CA, the SF Bay Area is probably the only part with a sufficiency of public transportation for a significant number of people not to need a car to get to it to use it. Too many urban planners designed things for shopping to be separated from residential rather than integrated. Some small cities provide adequate when mixed with physical ability to walk and/or bike.

Terrie Williams (798)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:53 am
I heard this morning on one of my programs that more and more people are turning to bicycles for their transportation needs. I thought that was a good thing! I agree that mass transit and the need for a gross overhaul of our transportation ways are much overdue. We need buses (smart buses that run on anything but gas/natural gas/oil), smaller cars (like smart cars/electrics, etc). It could be done and so many would get back to working on a JOB (here's the JOBS, Boner and McTurtleMan that you all did not deliver).

Oh, yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiight, he didn't know who harris-Perry is....PLA-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE. Just another RACIST upright vomit-spewing POS.

Climate Change----yes, we could be doing better on the climate front but remember, WE (Dems/Progressives/Greens?Socialists) are the SANE ones and know this is happening.....whereas, on the other hand.......y'all already know what willful iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidiots are on the other side.

Love the 'toon, Cat Man. :)

Winnie Adams (179)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:16 am
Thanks Tom Cat.

Arielle S (313)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:17 am
TomCat, I get a lot of good information from you that is neatly summarized and saves me from having to raise my blood pressure by watching the morons myself.... but I really get a kick out of your interpretations and outlook!
Making me smile when there is such nonsense going on is major - thank you.


Chris C (152)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:41 am
Give a right wing crazy a little rope and he/she will always hang themselves.

Mitchell D (87)
Friday May 9, 2014, 2:35 pm
Is there ANYTHING that a Republican has said over the last few years that makes any kind of reasonable sense?
These people (?) are so mentally bankrupt it is unbelievable to think that they can actually be talking in ways that can be heard, given how their heads are so far up their asses.

Dianna M (16)
Friday May 9, 2014, 2:55 pm
Dear Mr. Coughlan:

That "damned dirty ape" is smarter than you. Also a better human being.

Or were you talking to yourself? If so, then yes--you SHOULD get your hands off that kid. Yours or anyone else's.

A Very Angry, Bitter White Woman Who’s Also A Better Person Than You

Yvonne White (229)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:25 pm
LOVE the graphic, Tomcat!

David C (129)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:30 pm
tomcat, you're amazing....great post....slow on puzzle as is my well....

Yvonne White (229)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:39 pm
Right on Dianna! :)
Reported the spammer.

Birgit W (160)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:53 pm
Thanks TC.

Deb E (63)
Friday May 9, 2014, 4:51 pm
What ever happened to teenage boys growing up and becoming mature men? I am thinking that a lot of the issues we have in this day and age stems from the fact that boys are not "growing up". They continue to banter with their buddies (now it is online via FB and Twitter) and play video games that are totally designed for teens who have an urge to destroy and make what isn't bloody bloody. I get that. Teen boys are coming into their "manhood" and their testosterone is raging. It was one reason having a draft was a good idea. The boys could go play soldier to get all of their violent tendencies out of them and then be let loose on the real world with the knowledge that killing and destroying isn't actually fun. But now, boys don't have to grow up. Look at the workplaces of some of the biggest "now" generation companies like Google or even Spotify in Sweden. The "offices" look like playrooms and the workers skateboard around to each others desks. And, most of the workers doing this are male. It just seems like the mindset of this younger generation, who Jim Coughlan is a member of, (and it seems so are a lot of the new right wing nub jobs) is that they do not have grow up. Growing up means talking to people in a mature way, not sending out snark bites on Twitter about people you don't even know. And that is what they want in our Senate?

Sorry about the testing taking so long, TC, but glad it is now over for you.

Edith B (146)
Friday May 9, 2014, 9:16 pm
Upworthy: Here in my rural area, there is no public transit and no roads safe enough for a bike. I could no longer use a bike for transportation anyway. hahaha

Daily Kos: I hope that tweet costs him the election!

NY Times: How sad for our country that so many are so ignorant about climate change. I fear that my granddaughter will not have a very pleasant world to live in.

Cartoon: I wish there were an inspector for those lunatics

Katie & Bill D (107)
Friday May 9, 2014, 9:37 pm
Interesting, Thank you TomCat

TomCat S (128)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:00 pm
Thanks everyone, except the Republican spammer.

Jo, when I said redesign cities, I meant with suburbs included.

Lynn Squance (235)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:43 pm
uzzle — 3:18 Pretty little thing, weed or not.

Upworthy — I drive most places but if I don't have to go out, I don't. And I try to combine tasks so that I am not wasting gas and time. I fill up about every 5 weeks and it costs about $50. And if I am stuck in traffic or in line for gas etc, I turn off my ignition. Part of the problem with transit here is that it isn't efficient for the places I need to go. For example, visiting my mother because I leave there about 9 or 10 pm. By bus, it would take me at least an hour and it is only 20 km.

Daily Kos — What a load of bull manure! As you said TC "He also does not know the Pope is Catholic and has no idea where bears shit!. " Check his shorts. I bet he has KKK written in them so he knows who he is.

NY Times — Where there is a will to change our outlook on climate change, there is a way. But do we have the will? What is more important . . . a place to live and food to eat, or excess profits which you can't take with you when you die in the floods, storms and rising seas?

Cartoons — When you think about it, the Republicanus/Teabaggers should be charged with littering for all the crap they leave in their wake.

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Lloyd H (46)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 7:16 am
I love Public Transit, got rid of my car after I moved to Tacoma, WA 17 years ago. However, I grew up in Montana, 30 miles to the grocery store, any doctor or medical facility, only 3 miles of paved road in the entire tiny town I grew up in, and I mean tiny graduating 8th grade class of 12. Public Transit is only practical/ possible in large urban other wise there is simply not enough ridership to justify or pay for it. And then even between cities large enough to support PT in Montana, WY, ND, SD, etc. where the drive time is 6+ hours PT is simply not practical or cost effective. As arguably great and necessary as PT is there are simply limits to where it is applicable.
Coughlan is just another leaky Repug douche bag, what can one say. Did he know MHP is black, Hell yes. Does he care that he has proven he is a racist, Hell no. Are the voters in his Dem built safe district going to care, not very damn likely, I say Dem built safe district because the Dems did build it, a very consequential percentage of Dem or likely Dem voters are too f'ing stupid to vote every damn election. When it come to the redistricting, the voter suppression laws, the anti-Women/Choice, anti-Gay, anti-Poor, anti-environmental state and local laws Dems not getting off their butts and voting are as responsible as the Repugs.

TomCat S (128)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 11:48 pm
Lloyd, doesn't a horse run on biofuel? ;-)

Lloyd H (46)
Sunday May 11, 2014, 6:37 am
No TomCat! A horse runs on four feet. Seriously the answer is still no. Horses run on grass, hay, grain, water, salt and more than a few treats apples, carrots, oatmeal raisin cookies and pellets- pressed molasses grain cylinders about 3 inches long and 1 inch in diameter. Biofuel is generally accepted to be either a combination of petroleum products and ethanol or the reuse of cooking oils. Horses do not like gasoline, fryer oil or alcohol.
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