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Benghazi Watchdog Hypocrites


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TomCat S. (231)
Friday May 9, 2014, 12:51 am
Republicans claim that their new select committee on Benghazi is serious investigation. Let any Democrats question this, and these Republicans accuse them of spitting in the faces of four murdered heroes. In that case, what is it when these same Republicans ignore the head of that committee to use both him and it as an opportunity for their second favorite (behind election theft) activity: sheeple-fleecing.
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Friday May 9, 2014, 1:54 am
I read a short piece about the US Embassy bombing in Beirut in April 1983 in which 63 Americans were killed. Then 6 months later, 241 American servicemen were killed in the US Barracks bombing in Beirut. All this happened under the watchful eyes of President Ronald Reagan and VP George H W Bush.

Over 300 American lives lost and nary a peep! The first attack should have been a warning, but in my mind, there was little if any added precautions at the barracks. A truck was able to travel straight through the wire fence and into the lobby of the barracks building.

Where was the moral indignation from the Republicans then? Where were the investigations and the call for heads to role?

It is amazing how times change! Are 4 deaths more important than the 304 from Beirut 30 years ago? I don't think the families would think so. All the lives lost were important.

But now the Republicanus/Teabaggers dishonour the memories of the Benghazi 4 by using their deaths as political fodder and for fund raising for a morally bankrupt party. InsaniTEA at its worst! I think anyone who can not see or does not want to see what the Republicanus/Teabaggers are up to, are themselves morally bankrupt. The whole situation is not hard to see.
 

Alexandra G. (249)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:09 am
thank you
 

tasunka m. (338)
Friday May 9, 2014, 4:55 am
BENGHAZI SHMENGAZI
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 6:37 am

Could we ask Americans to realize this is preparation for 2016 and a distraction from the record of republicans as we begin the 2014 elections? The ACA did have a bumpy roll out, but even in Red states, it's working. That was I believe the plan of attack for 2014. Scratch that. Nothing is too low or dirty for politics we all know that, from mocking the Clinton's expected grandchild to rolling out another nauseating look at Monica Lewinsky. (What brand of cigars is she smoking these days?) Now out of shear desperation the Benghazi train is rolling again. How many investigations will we have on Benghazi? As many as possible to try to win elections on the backs of four dead men. Claiming that this attack would not have happened under Romney is a silly as claiming this is the worst attack ever. Yes, Obama was in a fight for re-election and obviously a bit distracted, the first reactions show that neither the White House or the State Department had a clue, it did take a few days to figure out what happened. Those days under an Obama administration must therefore, have been used to nefarious purpose.

If one wants to look up the deaths by attacks on US embassies, there is a chart from 1970 forward and I think this quote is fitting:
"Every ambassador and [foreign-service officer] understands the risks we take in being abroad,
Chamberlin says. "I don't know any ambassador who hides in his embassy. Getting out with the public and speaking is our job, it's why we're there. If you don't want to do that you shouldn't go."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/libya-consulate-embassy-attacks-obama-romney
****

We live in a world filled with terrorists, and whether directly or indirectly many countries including the US and Russia, are financing terrorist activity. The US policy of cleaning up after a war since WWII has cost trillions of dollars, most will never be fully accounted, though Obama has placed a sharp man in Afghanistan to attempt to do just that. It seems he is trying to empty an ocean of corruption with a teaspoon. We don't see Congress looking into this expensive policy filled with the potential to do more harm to the US. Benghazi is nothing more than a BUZZ word. The meaning is easily transparent, "We need a distraction for 2014 elections.

Thanks TC.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 6:39 am

I will be gone to play with my grandson Levi for a few days. See ya when I get back. Happy Mother's Day and a great weekend to all.
 

Robert B. (58)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:38 am
The Republicans are WORTHLESS, all they can do is play politics to get reelected. They all need to be FIRED!
PLEASE VOTE!
 

pam w. (191)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:53 am
SMOKESCREENS!
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:56 am
I think the major point made was clear in the video. They have NOTHING else to run on. They have no platform. Anyone who read their 2012 platform knew it was written by the tea party as all of it was negatives - attacks on women, minorities, LGBT, immigrants, voter suppression, the elderly. There wasn't a single positive step forward on ANY issue for this country. It could be Ted Cruz's mission statement. They don't have any ideas, only negatives and sure this agitates their base but their base is shrinking every election and faster every day. They are so far out of step with ordinary Americans that they are on their way to being just a footnote in history. Let them. I hope they stay negative, I hope they stay stupid, I hope they continue their pleasant path of self-destruction right through the 2016 elections. Kit sent around an outstanding graphic the other day about the 160 Americans killed during the Reagan administration and the complete lack of outrage Republicans showed then. This is just a personal attack on Hillary - the country knows that, the world knows it They think they are fooling everyone but they are only fooling themselves. Let them. They will just lose bigger this fall. I'm glad they are this stupid, it gets them out of the way of actual progress sooner rather than later.
 

Lona Goudswaard (79)
Friday May 9, 2014, 8:12 am
The newly appointed chairman of the select committee on Benghazi is announcing he will not endorse that funds are being raised over the back of four American heroes and at the same time a website is trying to wiggle money out of the GOP sheeple in his name and for the committee. ROTFLMAO. I'm so sorry, it is easy for me to laugh, but I realise that a lot of liberals must be gnashing their teeth. This is so badly coordinated that if it were the plot of a comedy, you would think it too far fetched.

Since the website states so clearly that the donations go towards fighting the liberals, no Democrats should or will partake in this charade. Up front this Republican committee has no intention of doing some truth finding. They've already made it abundantly clear that anything that comes out of this committee has only one purpose and that is to hurt Democrats and specifically to hurt their next candidate, Hillary. So it is also crystal clear that whatever comes out of this select(?) committee is biased and a lie. But when sheeple get fleeced, somehow they get their eyeballs peeled too, making it impossible to see what pile of manure is put right in front of them. The stink ought to warn them, but they'll gobble it up just as they have always done.
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Friday May 9, 2014, 8:39 am
I just got this from Elizabeth Warren, thought people passing through here might enjoy it too. That woman is SO smart. Some day, some day she is going to be President, not just yet, but some day, I really, really hope to see her representing ALL of us.

" Gene,

Earlier this week, Speaker John Boehner announced the formation of a new select committee to investigate Benghazi led by Rep. Trey Gowdy.

All three of my brothers served in the military, and I know firsthand how much Americans serving abroad -- and their families -- sacrifice. What happened in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012 was a tragedy. Four Americans died putting themselves in harm's way in service to peace, diplomacy, and their country. I look at what happened in Benghazi with sadness, with seriousness, and as yet another call to honor the men and women who keep us safe.

So let me be blunt: that kind of seriousness is sorely missing from the no-holds-barred political theater of the House Republicans.

I know a little bit about the way Trey Gowdy pursues oversight. I was on the other end of it when I was setting up the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and I was called to testify before the House. As the Huffington Post reported at the time, Gowdy's interrogation of me "seemed to lack the basic facts" about the agency he was attempting to oversee. I'd like you to read their reporting on one of these exchanges just so you know what this Benghazi "investigation" is likely to look like:

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) grilled Warren on whether the bureau would make public the complaints it gets. She answered that the complaint issue was a work in progress, but that at the very least, there was progress in creating a system for large credit card companies.

"Are any of the complaints public?" Gowdy demanded.

"Congressman, we don't have any complaints yet," Warren said of the still-nascent agency. "What we're trying to do is build the system."

Gowdy also seemed to think that Warren had written the Dodd-Frank law, and he was determined to know what Warren meant by defining "abusive" practices as something that "materially interferes" with the ability of a consumer to understand a term or a condition.

"That suggests to me that some interferences are immaterial. Is that what you meant by that?" he asked a momentarily perplexed-looking Warren.

"Congressman, I believe the language you are quoting is out of the Dodd-Frank act," she said. "This is the language that Congress has adopted."

Still, Gowdy insisted on her answer, although the definitions and regulations required by the law are still being written.

As a Senator, I take oversight seriously because it is powerfully important. But Trey Gowdy gives oversight a bad name. The House GOP is on a waste-of-time-and-resources witch hunt and fundraising sideshow, shamefully grasping for any straw to make President Obama, former Secretary Clinton, or Secretary Kerry look bad. This stunt does a disservice to those who serve our country abroad, and it distracts us from issues we should be taking up on behalf of the American people.

With millions of people still out of work and millions more working full time yet still living below the poverty line, with students drowning in debt, with roads and bridges crumbling, is this really what the House Republicans are choosing to spend their time on? Even for guys who have so few solutions to offer that they have voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare, this is a new low.

House Republicans are doing whatever they can to distract the American people from what's really going on in Washington – a rigged system that works great for those who have armies of lobbyists and lawyers but that leaves everyone else behind. A system in which Republicans protect tax breaks for billionaires while they block increases in the minimum wage for millions of people who work full time and live in poverty. A system in which Republicans give away billions of dollars in subsidies to Big Oil while making billions in profits off of our kids' student loans.

It's wrong, and it's shameful.

Thank you,

Elizabeth"
 

JL A. (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 8:48 am
Gene--you beat me to it. Senator Warren provides an excellent context on how to view the assigned chair in terms of responsible conduct of any investigation.
The email presence vs. content presence screams analytical skill deficits--however the staffers presumably responsible for the sound bytes are of an age that we can attribute them to the dumbing down to rote recall educational practices brought to us by NCLB.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Friday May 9, 2014, 9:02 am
I can't add a syllable to what has already been said. Unless it's that such a massive smokescreen juat has to be concealing massive flames in their own back yard. If we had newspapers and investigative journalism maybe someone could find out what it/they is/are. But Republicans have seen to that too.
 

Jason R. (66)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:07 am
Can we get the death of the GOP already!!! These people are more useless than tar sand!!!
 

Ashley heffner (457)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:10 am
If a family member or friend of mine had been killed in Benghazi and the Republicans pulled this, I would go on every major and minor news network that would have me and I would shame them back to the Bronze Age that they so desperately want to go back to.
 

Laura H. (903)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:10 am
GREAT comments everyone!

The GOP should be ASHAMED-making money off of 4 dead Americans and turning a tragedy into a political football! Vote the @$$holes OUT!!
 

Jason R. (66)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:19 am
From Elizabeth…

Jason,

Earlier this week, Speaker John Boehner announced the formation of a new select committee to investigate Benghazi led by Rep. Trey Gowdy.

All three of my brothers served in the military, and I know firsthand how much Americans serving abroad -- and their families -- sacrifice. What happened in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012 was a tragedy. Four Americans died putting themselves in harm's way in service to peace, diplomacy, and their country. I look at what happened in Benghazi with sadness, with seriousness, and as yet another call to honor the men and women who keep us safe.

So let me be blunt: that kind of seriousness is sorely missing from the no-holds-barred political theater of the House Republicans.

I know a little bit about the way Trey Gowdy pursues oversight. I was on the other end of it when I was setting up the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and I was called to testify before the House. As the Huffington Post reported at the time, Gowdy's interrogation of me "seemed to lack the basic facts" about the agency he was attempting to oversee. I'd like you to read their reporting on one of these exchanges just so you know what this Benghazi "investigation" is likely to look like:

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) grilled Warren on whether the bureau would make public the complaints it gets. She answered that the complaint issue was a work in progress, but that at the very least, there was progress in creating a system for large credit card companies.

"Are any of the complaints public?" Gowdy demanded.

"Congressman, we don't have any complaints yet," Warren said of the still-nascent agency. "What we're trying to do is build the system."

Gowdy also seemed to think that Warren had written the Dodd-Frank law, and he was determined to know what Warren meant by defining "abusive" practices as something that "materially interferes" with the ability of a consumer to understand a term or a condition.

"That suggests to me that some interferences are immaterial. Is that what you meant by that?" he asked a momentarily perplexed-looking Warren.

"Congressman, I believe the language you are quoting is out of the Dodd-Frank act," she said. "This is the language that Congress has adopted."

Still, Gowdy insisted on her answer, although the definitions and regulations required by the law are still being written.

As a Senator, I take oversight seriously because it is powerfully important. But Trey Gowdy gives oversight a bad name. The House GOP is on a waste-of-time-and-resources witch hunt and fundraising sideshow, shamefully grasping for any straw to make President Obama, former Secretary Clinton, or Secretary Kerry look bad. This stunt does a disservice to those who serve our country abroad, and it distracts us from issues we should be taking up on behalf of the American people.

With millions of people still out of work and millions more working full time yet still living below the poverty line, with students drowning in debt, with roads and bridges crumbling, is this really what the House Republicans are choosing to spend their time on? Even for guys who have so few solutions to offer that they have voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare, this is a new low.

House Republicans are doing whatever they can to distract the American people from what's really going on in Washington – a rigged system that works great for those who have armies of lobbyists and lawyers but that leaves everyone else behind. A system in which Republicans protect tax breaks for billionaires while they block increases in the minimum wage for millions of people who work full time and live in poverty. A system in which Republicans give away billions of dollars in subsidies to Big Oil while making billions in profits off of our kids' student loans.

It's wrong, and it's shameful.

Thank you,

Elizabeth
 

Robert O. (12)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:35 am
The GOP is absolutely shameless! Thanks Tom.
 

Bruce C D. (92)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:35 am
Great comments here already pretty much cover it all. I will say that it has been pretty obvious all along that Republicans are using the deaths of Americans in a gross, shameful, opportunistic, partisan manner, so this latest really comes as no big surprise, even as it further sickens and disgusts one. Also, I never realized how similar Chris Hayes and Sam Seder are--not in any bad way, though. ;)
 

Terrie Williams (773)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:40 am
It can't be any more blatant than this as far as fundraising, hypocrisy and LIES) SSDD in DC.

Wa-wa, wa-wa-wa-wa, wonk-wonk, wa-wa SIGH......
 

Winn Adams (203)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:08 am
Great comments by so many. All I'll ad is I hope I get to vote for Elizabeth Warren for President of the US some day in the not too distant future.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:25 am
My favorite word this week is "sanctimonious" which goes very well with Sanctimonious Hypocrites...Such a nauseating bunch these GOP are....So far from the next presidential election and yet, here is Monica Lewinsky, here are yet more Benghazi investigations, here is a ton of muddy water to throw at anyone who might think Hillary would make a good president. Boy, howdy, they must be SO afraid of her.....
 

Chris C. (151)
Friday May 9, 2014, 11:49 am
The GOP is out of "spin"..this "Benghazi" BS will be going nowhere! The shamelessness of the GOP will soon be apparent ... using this to campaign and raise money on the backs of the heroes who died there.! Just let the right wing wackjobs speak...they will hang themselves, as usual!
 

Leanne B. (28)
Friday May 9, 2014, 1:31 pm
Noted thanks.
 

Mitchell D. (132)
Friday May 9, 2014, 2:26 pm
Many good comments, but missing is the idea that thgis may all be about trying to make Hillary look bad, as she was Sec'y of State, at the time, should she opt to run for president.
What she might do is use this "sanctimonious hypocrisy" (thank you Arielle) against them.
 

Vivian B. (158)
Friday May 9, 2014, 2:53 pm
This "Select Committee" is so stupid! They are wasting more money, more time and more of the taxpayer's patience than should ever go on in the hallowed halls of Congress.
For all the obstructionism, they should be impeached! This is such a dangerous waste of time!! There are so many other urgent things that they could be doing instead of trying, yet again, to get blood out of turnip!! Why??? So they can make points with the idiots that believe this crap? Why can't we hold them responsible for this Benghazi debacle? Because they won't take responsibility! It is their fault and they just won't admit it!!
I am so sick of their pontificating and blockages, I could just scream!
Great points made by everyone!! This just shows how to investigate! If they would try listening, instead of blaming the left, they would find the cause of their endless mouth-spasms! Its them!!
Stars for all!! Thanks, TC!!
 

Dianna M. (16)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:09 pm
You'd think SOME of these people's constituents would figure out THEY'RE WASTING YOUR TAX DOLLARS, YOU PINHEADS. After all, hasn't Darryl Issa been investigating this same faux 'scandal' since it happened? (I mean, in between his hearings on the ginned up IRS ‘scandal’.)

So, basically, what you're saying, Mr. Boehner, is that Darryl Issa is totally incompetent? Now, THAT one I can believe!
 

Yvonne White (233)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:22 pm
Oh, forget Benghazi, they've bribed Monica Lewinsky to make the rounds on FAUX News outlets!
How RepubliCONs find the Nerve, after 9/11 to criticize Any Democrat is beyond me!
 

JL A. (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:27 pm
Today in HuffPost Nancy Pelosi is quoted as saying the families of those killed at Benghazi are asking that there not be yet another investigation.
 

Dave C. (227)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:34 pm
comments say more than I can ever write rationally and non-emotionally....all great....if you didn't get a star its because I've already sent you one this hour.....Lynn's comment is where I would start......

No thanks, No More, the GOP has gotta go....
 

Wayne W. (12)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:38 pm
"How many investigations will we have on Benghazi?"

Kit, an AP story today says the total so far is 13 public hearings, 25,000 pages of documents and 50 separate briefings.

Fox Benghazi Myths Dispelled By New Bipartisan Review
http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/01/15/fox-benghazi-myths-dispelled-by-new-bipartisan/197609
 

Birgit W. (152)
Friday May 9, 2014, 3:54 pm
Noted, thanks.
 

Deb E. (63)
Friday May 9, 2014, 5:00 pm
So here is a REAL announcement about investigations: Finally, a lawsuit is being brought against the Bush Administration for the war against Iraq. But it isn't from Democrats investigating the illegality of that war, although it should be. But this is what Dems need to do if they want to shut the Republicans up about Benghazi.

Check this out to see how you can support this effort as well.

https://www.causes.com/actions/1758826-help-an-iraqi-single-mom-get-justice

http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6449
 

JL A. (276)
Friday May 9, 2014, 7:41 pm
spam flagged
I'd like the total cost to the taxpayer of investigations on this with subtotal of those from the House and for the GOP to reimburse us for this partisan political expenditure.
 

Edith B. (145)
Friday May 9, 2014, 9:06 pm
They have whipped up a frenzy amongst their followers, with the help of faux news. They conveniently omit that they voted down funds for extra security at all embassies. ACA is working, so they are losing that battle, resurrect another one. McConnell is lambasting us in Ky with his ads about Obama's "War on coal" and pretending that he has been helping the coal miners all along. There is no limit on the depths of deception that they will use.
 

TomCat S. (231)
Friday May 9, 2014, 10:52 pm
Thanks to all but the Republican spammer.

Great comments abound. Thanks for Warren's take in it.
 

Fran away F. (117)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 1:52 am
Prior to the Benghazi attack, the Obama administration had requested increased security funding for U.S. embassies and consulates. Those funds were of course denied by the party of no, who then found it convenient to blame Obama and Clinton for lax security and the bombing itself. A fair and impartial media would have made certain that the American public had the facts to counter this big lie.
 

Louise D. (38)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 3:17 am
The hypocrisy of the GOP is a thing that has been known for many years. The hypocrisy is made worse by the fact that the people who are demanding answers were the very people who slashed funding on security for American embassies and consulates: if anything they have blood on their hands. It's not the security of American government personnel working abroad. It's the behaviour of American congressmen at home. This partisan attack is little more than a cynical attempt to distract people from the fact that GOP are a shower of bastards who would stoop so low as they have, it is also a point that Mittens choose to exploit the incident during the Presidental election shows how low the GOP group think is, in such matters.

 

. (0)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 3:49 am
arigato
 

Roseann d. (178)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 3:53 am
Scary that these corrupto lying hypocites are scamming their way to a senate majority. Anticipating low Dem voter turnout...and the gullibility of the Right...truly frightening what will happen when they regain power. Maybe it's true...we have to hit rock bottom hard....people really do get the Government they deserve. As they SCAMpaign, so they shall govern.
 

TomCat S. (231)
Saturday May 10, 2014, 11:46 pm
Amen to all 4.

Roseann is SO right! Nobody deserves the exploitation of Republican government more that people who choose not to voted.
 
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