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Open Thread - 6/4/2014

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Gloria p (304)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 4:51 am
Cute clown fish sculpture time; 4:07.

I shared the infographic but I wonder if anyone will notice. The world just whirls around me with friends and family that have jobs and money. Because of poverty I pray for death the way a farmer prays for rain.

The terrorist cartoon is one of your best!

Kit B (276)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 5:48 am

Time-- 2:42 - I guess eating razor blades for breakfast does make me sharp ;)

Thanks TomCat, for the great info graphic, I would just add one thing that should be included. Those who live in poverty both children with developing brains and adults do not eat well. Food is the fuel for our bodies and our brain. Poor nutrition leads to poor quality in the brain's ability to cope and develop. Shame on this country and the leaders that have been directly instrumental in the horrible decline into deep poverty. Poverty that is both forced and created of,and force by that damnable one percent of FAT CATS. (No insults or derogatory comments are meant toward actual cats.)

During the elections in Alabama a 90+ year old man, who can no longer drive and voluntarily surrendered his drivers license was prevented from voting. He was told his voter registration would be adequate identification, and why not, the man had not needed his license to vote in prior elections. Need I say that this man is a man of color? All across the south state by state even when courts have struck down their shiny new restrictions on voting there are still blockades firmly in place to attempt to prevent the elderly, women and people of color from voting. The constitution does not say that you must pay a tax to vote, but being forced to wait on line and buy state issued ID is de facto a poll tax. The highly obstructive limitations on where one might vote is another way to limit voting. Contrast this with the recent elections in India. Voting poll areas every 2 blocks and cool water to drink should you need to stand on line and wait. Far too many Americans do not want people to vote so they call out voter fraud. The real fraudulent practice is the direct effort to prevent any citizen from the inalienable right to vote.

I read that Daily Kos article yesterday and laughed and laughed. Fox is insulting the few once loyal viewers they had. This article also had a funny graphic of an elderly couple watching TV and giving the universal hand (finger) gesture to Fox.

Thanks TC, enjoy your trip and stay well.

Arielle S (313)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 6:06 am
The cartoon is purr-fect!!

Poverty becomes all-consuming. Sleep is difficult, worry is constant, every little thing is measured by what it will cost. Not a fun way to live.

Woo Hoo - Faux Noise hurting! That big grin on my face just won't go away...

Lona G (80)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 7:08 am
Have a safe journey without too many hassles, Tom Cat. And I hope, this training is of more interest than the last one; a few new facts or topics would be nice, wouldn't it.

Upworthy: Shocking graphics, and very correct, I would say. But I wish they'd done a better job on the relationship between poverty and IQ. The way it is presented here is very unscientific and therefore to easy to shoot holes in it by any Republican with just a bit of his mathematical brain working. And yes, sadly a few of them do exist. A missed opportunity, I think, because from this chart the conclusion that poverty results cognitive burden which in turn results in 13 point IQ lost is tentative at best. There is however ample scientific evidence that poverty leads to malnutrition which in children, when not counteracted with the right nutrition, will lead to lasting impairment of intelligence. And you need not starve to be malnourished, a fast-food diet or a very one-sided diet, would do 'the trick'. Bad or no healthcare and poor living conditions and sanitation have the same negative effects on IQ of children, as apparently does little or no education.
So the dumbing down of America is very simply attained by keeping people poor, a strategy of the GO we have discussed here earlier.

Daily Kos: Fox News viewer numbers taking a dive and that of CNN (Fox Lite) even dipping harder is the best news in days! They'll probably blame it on the summer coming or something, but that can't explain why they fell do much harder than MSNBC. I'd love to hear what embarrassing idiocy they come up with to explain it away.

NY Times: If I remember correctly from the book I was reading, the Reagan and Bush administration appealed some of the Democratic Gerrymandering successfully in the courts, but that obviously isn't a likely outcome with this SCOTUS. There seems to be no end to governmental voting fraud (what else can you call it?), now or in the future.

Cartoon: You were inspired by Arielle's comment, I think. LOL, Kudos to you both.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 7:58 am
4:15 Poor little trangendered clownfish! Although I suppose if everyone is. they don't get bullies for it, and then they get the best of both worlds, so feeling sorry is not appropriate. In his day, Tiresias was considered the wisest (and luckiest) man on earth.

Upworthy - the Republicans are trying to equalize some of that by reducing Social Security (the only thing keeping many older Americans out of poverty. For some reason though, Democrats (myself included) just don't think that's a good idea.

Daily Kos - Hooo. I am going to whine a little bit here. All my life I have been in groups considered less intelligent. Female. Blonde. Overweight. Now I am also elderly, and apparently grey is the new blond. I really don't think I am all that dumb. I know better than to watch Fox, and what I read from Fox I know better than to believe. But I get no respect.

NY Times - But the strategy is correct, after the first decision. "OK, you say that Alabama has reformed since the 60s. Well, what about this?"

Cartoon - Couln't find one with Cliven Bundy, hm? Well, this is just as good.

JL A (281)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 10:08 am
Reconciling what happened with what the prior decision said seemingly will take as much legal maneuvering as gerrymandering took.

This Fox forgot there are limits to survival if you depend solely on the hen house.

Facts don't lie so those who want to believe themselves like the 1% ignore them. Add the consequences of pollution's disproportionate impacts on those living in poverty and the brainpower killed now may be dooming the country's future.

CA had many races without a GOP candidate for you TC.

Pat B (356)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 11:24 am
UpWorthy: For our Poor, working two jobs, feeding the children, paying the bills, so aptly stated: 'Poverty is like pulling an all-nighter.' How horribly sad.
Daily Kos: Well said, senior citizens, well said.!! ;-)
Great Cartoon.
Well take a well deserved rest today, and have a Great Week ahead. Try and enjoy yourself, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

Avril Lomas (0)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 1:04 pm

To quote. Tony the Tiger. re. cartoon).

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 1:12 pm
Thank you TC.

James Maynard (84)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 1:47 pm
Great infographic.
Worst Supreme Court ever.....
Cartoon is spot on - as usual!
May have to send in the clowns
to get a decent puzzle time....:)

Mary Donnelly (47)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 4:00 pm
Great post.

Jim P (3257)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 9:59 pm
Demographics. SEPTEMBER 27, 2012
While this study is less than 2 years old, it does present a factual graphic chart with
the usage of various news programs, outlets with age, economic and political profiles. It is an easy but hefty read. Simple but comparative charts are used.

Section 4: Demographics and Political Views of News Audiences

I am glad that Faux News is down. But, I am surprised that the viewers are in the 70+ range. I would have thought they would watch the standard bearers of old like NBC, CBS and ABC, not the brash and out of touch reality gop propaganda machine aka Faux News or another aka "Alternative History Journal".

ty, tc.

Lynn Squance (235)
Wednesday June 4, 2014, 11:12 pm
Puzzle 2:57 Ah, I think I found the "Great Pumpkin"!

Upworthy "The loss of IQ and mental illness factors help explain why some poor people vote Republican." AMEN! I knew there had to be some explanation for something non sensical.

Daily Kos "Hooo?" It would please me to no end if Faux Noise, or the Alternate History Channel as Jon Stewart would call it, disappeared with their audiences. Good on Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes!

NY Times The Injustices will do what they do best . . . interpret the Constitution in a half-baked way to favour the state government's position and in effect restrict the Black and Democratic vote.

Cartoon Good one! You could put the whole Republicanus/Teabagger contingent of Congress Critters in that picture and not be stretching the truth.

TomCat S (129)
Thursday June 5, 2014, 3:00 am
Thanks all. I live.

David C (133)
Friday June 6, 2014, 2:07 pm
thanks, Tomcat....

marie C (163)
Saturday June 7, 2014, 3:56 pm
Thanks TomCat
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