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Open Thread - 6/8/2014

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Gloria p (304)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 5:30 am
Polo pony puzzle time; 5:11. G-d bless California Chrome. Steve Coburn is right. Going off on live TV while arguing with your wife? Hmmm? Not so right but probably more passion and the heat of the moment. Being horsey myself I can forgive.

The food video is old, old news to those of us who are food savvy. The latest thing that drives me nuts is Greek yogurt. It is not Greek yogurt. Greek yogurt is made out of goats milk. It has no sugar, chemicals, or flavors in it. The Greeks add some mint or honey or spice after they purchase it unless they raise their own goats. And there are so many who brag about how healthy they are because they eat Greek yogurt everyday. It's maddening. It's just more factory farm food loaded with trash.

Water burns in Texas while Bolton complains about liberal intellectuals being racists. Beam me up Scotty.

Nice photo Tom Cat. I bet when the prisoners see you their eyes light up because someone understands and cares.

Lona G (80)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 6:47 am
Phew, glad to see that Day counter again and going up, TomCat. By the way, who's that friendly-looking gentleman in your Tread; doesn't look like the GOP type, is he your caretaker or your alter ego?

Upworthy: I'm a member of 'Compassion in World Farming, which now has a subsidiary in The Netherlands (and hopefully a subsidiary somewhere near you :-)) and so I've already seen this video, but it's message goes far beyond how marketing makes us ignore the horrors of factory farming and buy its products without a blink. "The power of wilful ignorance cannot be overstated", that is the most important message to take away from it. And agreed, TomCat, the GOP has already done that.

Daily Kos: Sorry, no time to comment, have to get rid of a full barf bag first. Two, actually, the second was filled after Bolton, former US ambassador to the UN - one of the many ill-advised appointments Bush has made- started his hate-speech.

Common Dreams: No surprise there that independent scientists found Methane values that are so much higher than the not-so-independent-and-that-is-an-understatement Texas Railroad Commission. Apparently there is little in the state of Texas that Big Oil hasn't got its claws in.

Cartoon: Yup, even I get that one.

Arielle S (313)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 7:01 am
Far too much of our food comes from factories - including, as you say, Gloria, that "Greek" yogurt....and most people would rather just not know. But how in the world can you ignore water that catches fire? No wonder Texas has so many crazies - they're full of methane and those other chemicals we aren't allowed to know about.

Too many in prison that shouldn't be there - I'm glad they at least have you, TC.

Kit B (276)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 7:32 am

Time - 3:20 - Not the triple crown but not too shabby.

Nice picture TomCat, I think you look healthier than ever.

I posted this Upworthy video as well. Because we need to look at our food system not just as a petition we sign, or some vague idea that something is not right. We need to dig in and discover why so much of our food is pre-packaged. What does that mean, do we read labels and if we do: do we understand them. If you can not pronounce the items on the label, should you be eating that stuff? It's things we should all ponder.

I could not watch the video. I don't know who that jackass is, but I know he lacks the intellectual ability to follow along with some very simple humor. Yes dummy, that "classic Americana" that makes you drool over days gone bye, is sadly some of the first things we sent out there to space. Even when we didn't know that we were telling the universe that we treat women as inferiors and any race not white is worthy only of the occasional parody, nothing more. Yes, Neil deGrasse Tyson has an intellect that leaves anything Fox has to offer standing at the starting line waiting for instruction. Yes, the man is one of the bright stars of real science for the real world, and yeah --- he is black, suck it up and learn a little respect. He is brilliant and has a sense of humor.

Texas lives on oil and gas. Texas has recently learned that this state can make more money, employ more people, save more money on the cost of energy by using wind and solar. Texas lives on intravenous feeding of the dollars for politicians by the oil and gas companies. This is no new discovery and there is no way the this state will admit that our water is toxic from FRACKING. This is another one of THOSE things, everyone knows it and no one admits the truth.

Thank you, Tomcat

Pat B (356)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 7:39 am
Upworthy: Truthful, telling video. 'The Power of Willful Ignorance is you.!! so very true. At end of video: I signed petition. Thank you for Pledging to Stop the Spin of Factory Farming.

Daily Kos: Such haters.!!! I can't stand this show, so I don't even watch it, ever.

Common Dreams: Read about this yesterday in the local paper, shame that the pipe is not in the TRC's back yard, they'd sure find a way to fix it. It's all about the $$ and greed.

Cartoon: The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The Israel apologized for the incident, as they mistook the ship for an Egyptian ship . (The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship). source: Wiki

Awww....I love the picture of you, you look happy too.! So glad that your trip went well, I know that you are such an inspiration to your guys and the families that you come into contact with. Caring is what it's all about, isn't it? Have a relaxing day, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 8:17 am
5:10 My mouse was dragging, failing to pick up pieces and then failing to drop them, and overshooting. Must have been scared of getting stepped on.

Pic - I said a few days ago that no one here but you would call you ugly, and I stand by my statement.

Upworthy - If she was a real merketer and not an actress, I'll bet she's out of a job now.

Daily Kos - I didn't watch the video either; did read the article. :He fit the profilr." Well, yes, he did. The profile is black and male. The profile IS the problem. In no universe is Neil deGrasse Tyson the problem.

Common Dreams - Kit B, I am so sorry you are stuck with the elephant in the room. Particularly this elephant. And I'm sure it's no consolation to realize many other states are stuck with the same elephant. I know you are working hard for Wendy Davis and I pray all the time that your efforts will be rewarded. I have sent a little money, not much. In a general way, isn't it funny how long we sometimes have to wait, how much money has to be spent, how much obfiscation there is, to get proof of what everybody knows? Yes, I realize sometimes "everybody knows" wrong. but that hasn't seemed to be the problem lately.

Cartoon - Good grief.

Terrie Williams (798)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 12:03 pm
I belong to Compassion in World Farming also. I do not eat factory farmed meat/poultry. I don;t even eat mega-farmed produce. It is all BAD for human health AND for the animals/produce involved. Enough is indeed enough!

Sorry, Cat Man, couldn't get through the Faux Noose BS piece after that dipsh*t McInnes said he hates Tyson. Like you say....we are soooooooo screwed if their viewers actually believe this drivel.

In regards to TX fracking.....what Mizzzz Puddy-Puddy said. We live with it here and it is not a topic to be discussed...even though it is making scores of people sick or it will light on fire or that it is even IN the water we consume. Blind, deaf and dumb so long as there are jobs from it, and palms get greased on a regular basis. I have boiled my water for the last 4 years because. living in the 'Golden Triangle' (also 1# in the nation for CANCER rates) a hole lot of fracking goes on and a whole lot of chemical plants (not to mention the oil and gas plants/refineries) release their crap into the air and into the underground pipes...and occasionally 'dumped' by 'accident' directly into the bayous and the Netches river. Drink THIS water? NEVER without boiling the hell out of it. Even then, one takes a chance. Those that can afford it, have bottled water companies bring them their water for their dispensers, the rest of us have no choice. Inconclusive my entire southern end. It's always about the money.

'toon -- I remember that!

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 12:38 pm

Birgit W (160)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 1:14 pm
Thanks TC.

David C (131)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 2:00 pm
Tom, very nice picture, thanks for sharing!

Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 2:36 pm
Well bless my soul! A little squirrel just came and balanced himself on my window! My windows push out at the top and this window (den) has a drain pipe right beside it. He must have come down the pipe from the roof and decided to investigate the opening. One look at me and he hightailed it out of the window. Cute little guy! Good thing my furbabes weren't right here or there would have been a real ruckus!

Puzzle — 3:19 Giddy-up horsie!

Upworthy — "This also explains how the 1% markets Republican candidates to sheeple." Yup! It is in the wording and knowing that people really are concerned about getting through the day, not about an event, an election, in the future. Key tactic — lying and obfuscation! Make it easy to understand the GOP point so the sheeple don't have to think. Thhe dumbing down of the electorate. BTW, it is not just in the US.

Although she was talking specifically about the meat industry and factory farms, Kate Cooper said:

"We only get away with it because people are prepared to look the other way."

Daily Kos — Neil deGrasse Tyson is a man of intellect and humour. As for the people on that panel, their combined IQ might hit 3 on a good day. As for Gavin McInnes, he clearly is a lower life form and is likely upset that aliens did not make contact with him. Good on the aliens!

Common Dreams — "…the chemical composition shows they are an exact match to the gas being fracked at two nearby drilling site … operated by Barnett."

Incontrovertible proof, and yet Barnett still denies it. I wonder how much a member of the Texas Railroad Commission can be bought for? Oh, sorry, this is Texas we're talking about. They go cheap.

Cartoon — One SNAFU after another! From Wikipedia

"“It seems [President] Johnson was more interested in avoiding a possible confrontation with the Soviet Union, …than in restraining Israel.”"

It seems that type of relationship exists today.

James Maynard (84)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 3:07 pm
Nice photo TomCat!
The poisoning of our groundwater
with fracking should be a hangable
Polo game was over before I got
the puzzle finished.....

Sheryl G (363)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 3:44 pm
Thanks for posting that video on the misleading advertising and the willful ignorance by the majority of us. Those who do not eat meat, bless your hearts as you don't contribute to this, those who eat meat must speak out and in doing so demand that the cows be allowed to graze outside along with the chickens and pigs to be able to wallow in the mud.

We need to go back to the smaller family farms, get the fracking the heck out of there and use the land for our foods. We've been sold a bill of goods, and maybe after the war in some areas it was necessary but we can and must change things now. People eat too much meat, even for those who eat meat, smaller portions and at fewer days, that would cut down on the need to have so many animals going through the system and also it would cut back on the pollution that goes along with it.

Well keep on truckin' do a lot each week that is productive and means a lot to those who are in prison. I can't think of anything worse than to be forgotten, you let them know they are not forgotten.

JL A (281)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 5:35 pm
So many good comments I'll just add that I guess the regulators need the evidence of their own eyes seeing his water catch on fire.

Gary L (138)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 8:12 pm
thanks TC always enjoy your site best wish's for your work with people in need our a little understanding most people don't realize that our country imprisons more people than any other nation on earth most due to drugs and alcohol and poverty and the low life scum that run our person complex love it that way

Deb E (63)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 10:02 pm
We can eat meat and still be caring humans. All that is born will die. If your meat has a good life prior to being killed for dinner, and your meat is killed in a humane way so as not to stress it, there is nothing wrong with eating meat. And it is possible for most people to buy meat that has been raised like this, but it takes research, and a lot of time to find where your local, organic farmers are in your own areas. But they are out there. Find them, cut back on the amount of meat you eat, NEVER eat any chicken but certified "Heritage" breeds, always buy meat only from "true" free range raised animals, and you are doing a whole lot to alleviate the needless suffering of animals.

Sorry, had to stop the video at 1:33 The ignorance made me puke.

Edith B (146)
Sunday June 8, 2014, 10:18 pm
Thanks for the pic, TC. You look very good.

Upworthy, I quit eating chicken 25 years ago, now after watching this, I am giving up pork, too. No more bacon, which is about the only meat I still eat. Marketing is all it takes.

Daily Kos: I couldnt watch all of it. I think Fox should lose their license to broadcast !

Common dreams" Is anyone surprised that a government agency in Texas would side with the oil industry

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