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Open Thread - 8/30/2014

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread, video )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown).

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Gloria p (304)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 4:08 am
Varenna Bridge puzzle time; 4:38. It's simply beautiful and it was fun to put together.

I love the cartoon! It's time to feed Charley. I am kitty sitting him.

Lona G (80)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 5:53 am
I'm off the radar perhaps for one or two days, TomCat, so don't overdose on my catnaps and stay away from nicotine, just as you have done in the previous 131 days.
Just had time to read Andy's collumn: he really nailed the absurdity of the ongoing debate. Kudos to Andy too.

Arielle S (313)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 7:46 am
Three cheers for Andy for having more common sense than most gun owners....

The Ditch Mitch campaign should be in full swing - There's been enough bullsnot from this mealy-mouth to last a lifetime.

Jon Stewart - what a sad world it would be without him and Bill Maher. This was one of his all time best, don't you think? And that is saying a lot because he always has some great stuff.

Benedict Arnold has nothing on today's Republicans....they all deserve the same fate.

JL A (281)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 8:26 am
I'd like election day to become the worst day for Mitch, not 2nd, by a landslide defeat.
So glad Andy and Jon are around to speak truth to power and to show the fringe the absurdities they spew.
Yes, many do seem to model their behavior after Arnold--hopefully their consequences will also be modeled after what Arnold got.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 8:40 am
5:19 My guess would be that somewhere upstream there's a dam, and it needs to go.

New Yorker - Facepalm. Double.

Daily Kos - "Important work." Well, that's one way to describe organized crime.

Upworthy - Oh, but there's no such thing as white privilege. Bill O'Reilly says so. Yes, I saw this, and you are right, there is nothing to add. Having said that, I'm going to add what Ben Stein said - "He was 6'3", 300 lbs, and according to what I read in the New York Times on marijuana. To call him 'unarmed' is calling Sonny Liston unarmed or Cassius Clay unarmed."

I also want to quote one small thing from it - which was said to be funny - but is not really an exaggeration -"in their - I'm going to say, last couple of hours."

"Exhausting" is throwing roses at it.

Cartoon - Nowadays they don't think they have to flee the country, so I'm not sure how much of a precedent it really is.

Jim Phillips (3257)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 9:26 am
Daily Kos:
After these revelations, it’s all the more important that we pass the Democracy for All amendment, which would let Congress place sensible regulations on campaign spending. The Senate votes on September 8.
Contact your senator today.

Email your senator and tell them to vote for S.J. Res. 19 - the Democracy for All constitutional amendment!

On September 8, the U.S. Senate is scheduled to take a cloture vote on S.J. Res. 19, the Democracy for All constitutional amendment to allow reasonable limits on campaign spending and restore the voices of American voters.

I am writing to urge you to vote for S.J. Res. 19 and against any filibusters that will block a debate on the bill. If you have already co-sponsored the bill, thank you for your leadership.

Ever since the Supreme Court decided Citizens United, hundreds of millions of dollars from special interests have flooded our elections. Much of the money has come from secret sources, too. All of this money is drowning out the voices of your constituents. We need to restore the voices of We, the People in our democracy. This constitutional amendment is the first step.

Please vote for S.J. Res. 19 when you return from August recess.


ty, tc.

Pat B (356)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 10:46 am
Lost my comment, darn it.Here goes:
New Yorker: Automatic weapons and flamethrowers are extremely dangerous.
UpWorthy: Spot on, Jon. I liked when he said, the people of color face obstacles in America with surprising grace. Add indignity, pain and sorrow to that. So sad.
*Thanks, Jim for the link. Signed.
Pass the Democracy for All amendment!
Thank you for supporting us on this issue.
Sometimes it's better to just take things one at a time, and catnap in between sessions. It works for me. Hope that everyone has a good safe and enjoyable weekend. Do take good care, and Thanks, Tom.

Chris C (152)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 11:50 am
Pitch Mitch into the Ditch!

Chris C (152)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 12:11 pm
LOVE Jon Stewart!

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 12:20 pm
Seachickens? I sense a tad of bitterness TomCat.

Panchali Yapa (26)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 12:37 pm
Thank you

Birgit W (160)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 12:56 pm
Thank you TC.

David C (129)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 2:47 pm
Jon Stewart awesome.....

marie C (163)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 4:03 pm

Edith B (146)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 9:03 pm

The New Yorker: Andy's satire makes more sense to me that the thought of taking an eight year old child out to fire an uzi. I feel sorry for the child, she will have this to live with the rest of her life. I think her parents should be prosecuted for child abuse, and the shooting range charged with man slaughter.

I am not sure of the child's age, but I heard a talking head on CNN today say that 8 is the legal age.


Daily Kos: Mich is very happy with the Kochs and citizens united, that is why he is still in office. I hope he is about to have the very worst day of his live in November when Alison defeats him.

Upworthy" Jon says it all. I am white, so I will never be subjected to the discrimination a person of color has. No matter how far we have come, we still have too far to go in race relations. This tragedy in Ferguson has brought it back to our attention, and now is the time for all to act, to try to make things better for all of us.

Cartoon: Yep, training ground for Republicans and Tea Partyians.


Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 9:57 pm
Puzzle — 3:13 A bridge over troubled water . . . like almost no water!

The New Yorker — The bit about using a flamethrower indoors garnered little chuckles from me as I remember standing in my kitchen with marshmallows on a meat skewer and lighting them on fire — I like charred and gooey marshmallows. I have also seen a friend use a small propane torch to do the same. But chuckles aside, this should not even be a discussion, national or otherwise. The national fixation over the 2nd amendment is ridiculous in my mind. Too many guns, too many deaths and near tragedies. But more than that, this discussion is starting to infect Canada. Fortunately we do not have the right to bear arms as an out moded sense of self defense.

Daily Kos — "“The exposure to this group and to this network and the opportunity to meet so many of you — that really started my trajectory." – Joni Ernst"

Hopefully, that trajectory is straight into the political sewer for Ernst and all other Republicanus/Teabaggers. The new Carpetbaggers will kill the US.

Upworthy — Amen Jon!

Cartoon — Indeed! Arnold betrayed the citizens of the American colonies to the British, as Republicanus/Teabaggers betray the American people to the wealthy and corporations. Time for a new revolution? . . . ideally bloodless!

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 10:10 pm
@ JD --- I think it is a precedent because it is more about the betrayal of the people . . . not about fleeing the country. Both Arnold and the Republicanus/Teabaggers betrayed their nation for their own agrandisement, not for the people..

P A (117)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 11:50 pm

Thanks for this TC, especially the New Yorker segment. This bit really resonated with me "Similar, he says, is the national debate about using a flamethrower indoors. “There has been a long and contentious national conversation about this,” he says. “It’s another tough one.”"

Re Edie's comment – can it REALLY be legal in some (or even all) states for a child of eight to be allowed to fire a sub-machine gun?! How are any of you left alive?!!

Upworthy – yes, Jon Stewart is absolutely correct – again!


TomCat S (128)
Sunday August 31, 2014, 1:52 am
Lynn is correct.

Nancy, they became the Seachickens for me long before they beat my Broncos in the Super Bowl, a well earned win. They used to be in the same division as my Broncos. When I moved to Portland, the TV stations consider us a suburb of Seattle and I never got to see my Broncos, because they always televised the Seachickens here.

Hugs to all.

Lona got me AGAIN!!

James Maynard (84)
Sunday August 31, 2014, 11:30 am
Andy doesn't have a lack of foolishness
to satirize these days....
Am so hoping Virginians don't return
this old fool to Congress.
Jon's latest show was such a brilliant
piece of writing, it was almost heart
Lovely bridge scene.
Lousy puzzle time....
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