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Arizona News: Take THAT You Warmongering Senators!

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: US, military, air force base, Luke AFB, Arizona, downsizing, military fighter jets, workforce, Iraq, war )

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Ahhh, a John McCain state, it's great to be down-sized...esp. when it comes to military bases!! Luke AFB planning 7% reduction in workforce - every %-pt is good news to me! F-16 fighter fleet by 25 planes!!

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Darlene K (356)
Friday February 15, 2008, 6:50 pm
Bravo..., I am amazed this happened in McCain's state, heh. Wonders never cease....Good article Kathy, thank you.

. (0)
Friday February 15, 2008, 6:53 pm
Me too.. AWESOME job Kathy...BRAVO!!!!..... Noted,thnx

Fred Hoekstra (6772)
Friday February 15, 2008, 6:56 pm
What does this translate to? People out of work. Not just at the Base, but in the communities that are near the Base. The businesses are going to find that the loss of revenue will cause them to lay off some of their workers. There is nothing to cheer about when that happens,,,,,

Past Member (0)
Friday February 15, 2008, 6:57 pm
Rock on Kathy, Noted & Thanks

Kathleen H (293)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:05 pm
Fred, that kind of unemployment makes my heart soar higher than the F-16's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

charles mclachlan (1677)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:05 pm
hi noted cathy yer certanly an the ball tonight yer lovely work.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:33 pm
Sorry. Not believing anything positive from the Bush administration.

This man was just on the air a day ago excusing telecoms, to keep us "safe" from terrorists. Guess he doesn't know the terrorists are actually in Washington, D.C.?

C'mon, guys.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:46 pm

McCain: ‘I Dont Think Americans Are Concerned’ If We Stay In Iraq For ‘10,000 Years’

Last week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said it “would be fine with” him if the U.S. military stayed in Iraq for “a hundred years” or even a “million years.”

Fifty-nine percent say the U.S. should “stick to a withdrawal timetable” instead of keeping “a significant number of troops in Iraq until the situation there gets better, even if that takes many years.”

But on CBS’s Face the Nation, McCain claimed that Americans would not be “concerned” if the U.S. spends

“10,000 years” in Iraq:

The point is it’s American casualties. We’ve go to get American’s off the frontlines, have the Iraqis as part of the strategy, take over more and more of the responsibilities, and then I don’t think Americans are concerned if we’re there for one hundred years or a thousand years or ten thousand years.

Kathleen H (293)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:51 pm
I don't trust Bush either, but I REALLY don't trust all the Americans who want to back Sen. McCain for president......the man is crazy.......and I, unfortunately, live in his state!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:51 pm
Exactly my point.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 7:53 pm
Bush has proven TWICE that elections can be rigged.

(Just hunkering down . . . )

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:10 pm
(During the lull . . . and just a thawt)

While we are all diverted by global warming and alternate fuels -- how come we never hear anything about the pollution caused by war? (It IS after all the same air! eventually we breathe.)

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:23 pm
Just thinking . . . while it's still legal . . . but, how much pollution does a body consumed by napalm produce -- as opposed to diesel fuel used to trasport pharmaceuticals?

And why are people required to use seat belts in cars, but not in buses?

And when a village is burned down, or bombed, how long does the particulate matter stay in the air? And how far does it spread?

If a man is tortured in Guantanamo, if it is not in the press -- does no one hear it? (And if some of those prisoners are then "brought to justice," after torture, are their confessions admissible? They were, after all, detained without charges.)

Idle thoughts.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:27 pm
It's hard for me to know the answers -- pure evil -- to that.

And buy this.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:32 pm
To date, the U.S. has spent $494.7 BILLION DOLLARS to murder people in the Middle East.

In the meantime, at a record rate, people are abandoning homes because they cannot pay mortgages. Jobs are being outsourced, the majority of the citizenry have lost faith in their government, and their representatives have violated their oaths of office.


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:48 pm
And all day long, every single day, every 3.6 seconds, someone dies from hunger, while the U.S. does not honor a commitment made in 2002 to set aside 0.7% to ELIMINATE global hunger and extreme poverty..

10's of thousands of lives lost DAILY (75% of which are children). But, we do nothing about it.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 8:49 pm
I refuse to believe this froth when I know the truth.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 9:54 pm
PRO LIFE, to me, means using available funding to secure the lives already in existence in this world, the majority of whom will die without our recognition and push to honor our agreements. These agreements were made with the sanctity of humanity in mind. Our representatives acknowledged that importance and committed to contributing toward that saving.


The rest is all evil. If you do nothing else good in your life, save those children.

I do not want to even be a part of a group of people who KNOW this loss -- but do nothing about it.

Please stop the apathetic condonement of genocide you create by turning away. (I cannot think of anything more pitiful than a child slowly dying of hunger, and a parent helplessly watching.)

Carolyn T (234)
Friday February 15, 2008, 10:00 pm
Noted. Thank you for your comments Carole and Fred. Food for thought.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday February 15, 2008, 10:15 pm

As always, I respect dissenting viewpoints - - but, as is obvious, I have my own strong ones on issues of government promises. We, as Americans, need to hold our representatives to those made with the view of overall humanity. This is not just a "photo op." Lives hang (and have been lost) in the balance. As an average citizen, I should not have to remind nor explain that to my elected (and paid for) representatives.

It is a vow I take seriously.

Thank you for your consideration.

Lucien Pan Morningstar (217)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 1:43 am
dont be shocked that it.s happening in the mccain state hill had been on the brac list for 10yrs(the brac commission was formlated soon after malta((the bush 1 /gorby mtg ,the official end of the cold war ))& first implemeted early in the b. clinton yrs ) hill has and continues to escape total closure due to mccain (&others)many bases have been closed in areas w/ less political & economic clout this "downsizing"is really little more than a token almost symbolic gesture it's 20 planes that were about ready to be mothballed anyhow. and given the size of the military industrial complex or just the us military its a drop in the bucket(esp. in light of carol 's points& the fact that you can count on fingers the countries who's total economy is (public&private;black& white market)is as large(or larger than) the us military"s expenditures... while i do feel for anyone who looses a job again the number's given are small many places have survived& even florished w/ less other positive economic factors than the area around hill more often than not the are replaced by bussiness that actually produce ( this is better in the long run for both the local and larger economies )& several places across the country have suffered an impact greater by a factor of 100+just w/ the deployments to iraq & and afganistan... thank you kathy b for posting and everyone for you well thought and felt comments

Hans L (958)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 2:25 am
Noted great work kathy! Forget the elections nobody needs that in the USA!
Did democracy ever work in the US? The one in power will stay in power!
The president will do as he is being told by the power and it is not the
power of the people! The USA needs natural capitalism! I hope that the people power
will make sure that there will be a new economy....Just look at my video on my
profile to see the woman who can make this change work!
I think that the weapon industry has long enough been the number one item of the US
invest in human capital invent new we need oil? No!!!
Dont tell that to Bush and his friends who love to see you pay $$$$$ like never
before for your american dream....If all americans would buy a SMART
or drive a bike or outdoorstepper for short distances that would make a read the TREK story!!!

Anne B (64)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 8:13 pm
As A Resident Of Arizona, I Am Extremely Surprised To Hear Of Luke Downsizing-And By 7%! Wow!!! Noted, Thanks Indy.

Sandra M Z (114)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 10:08 pm
Great comments everyone and especially Just Carole and Noted, thanks Kathy BD~G!

serge vrabec (278)
Sunday February 17, 2008, 11:03 pm
Noted and thx Kathy!!
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