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Robert
- 2760 days ago - washingtonpost.com
The order followed an unusual series of events set off when a U.S. Army veteran filed a protest against the government practice of hiring what he calls mercenaries; the contract, worth about $475 million, calls for a private company-



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Robert K. (437)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 9:04 am
A federal judge yesterday ordered the military to temporarily refrain from awarding the largest security contract in Iraq. The order followed an unusual series of events set off when a U.S. Army veteran filed a protest against the government practice of hiring what he calls mercenaries, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The contract, worth about $475 million, calls for a private company to provide intelligence services to the U.S. Army and security for the Army Corps of Engineers on reconstruction work in Iraq. The case, which is being heard by the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, puts on trial one of the most controversial and least understood aspects of the Iraq war: the outsourcing of military security to an estimated 20,000 armed contractors who operate with little oversight.

Brian X. Scott, a 53-year-old Colorado man, filed the complaint in early April. He argues that the military's use of private security contractors is "against America's core values" and violates an 1893 law that prohibits the government from hiring quasi-military forces.

Scott's challenge set off a domino effect, prompting the Government Accountability Office to dismiss protests brought by two major private security contractors the Army had removed as potential bidders -- Erinys Iraq, a British firm, and Blackwater USA of North Carolina.
 

Raymond M Burton (156)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 9:37 am
Good one boots !
Kudos to you and Brian X. Scott !
 

Robert K. (437)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 9:50 am
Of course everyone knows Blackwater readily contributes approx. $1million a year to the GOP...
 

Robert K. (437)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 10:02 am
Just opened this from Launi P. and this banned excerpt pushed by the republicans in congress, from Robert Greenwald's documentary - 'Iraq for Sale', - just about says it all. Excerpt banned on video site below. If not highlighted copy and paste. And BTW...thanks Launi for your caring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cJlJudDtVE
 

. (0)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 12:03 pm
Thanks Boots, my sister sent it to me. She and her husband are both former military.
 

Robert K. (437)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 2:19 pm
Scott said he served nearly 13 years on active duty in the U.S. Army and worked six years at the Interior Department on contracting issues. He now works full time trying to obtain government contracts and protesting the use of private security contractors. He has filed about a dozen protests against the use of the contractors in Iraq. All were filed with the GAO, and all were dismissed.

The Army has been narrowing the field of candidates for the Iraq security contract. One is Aegis Defence Services, a British security firm. Aegis won the initial Iraqi security contract in 2004. That contract, worth $293 million, was set to expire in May but has been extended as others have filed protests. Scott said he was indifferent that his court claim had complicated the Erinys and Blackwater protests. "They're just trying to get a piece of the mercenary action," he said.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 3:33 pm
Judge Halts Award Of Iraq Contract - 2 days ago - washingtonpost.com A federal judge yesterday ordered the military to temporarily refrain from awarding the largest security contract in Iraq. The contract, worth about $475 million, calls for a private company to provide intelligence services to the U.S. Army
 

Jennie B. (14)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 3:46 pm
You are amazing Boots! Thanks for posting the Truth fast right here at Care2. This so needs to be right in front of American's eyes before the election- I mean mainstream America that never seems to know what is going on right under their noses because journalists never report the truth. All the laws broken, all the deceit and corruption...Noted
 

RC deWinter (418)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 3:52 pm
This great...now if only they'd stop hiring Halliburton!
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 4:02 pm
It's not only Halliburton, Cate, it's also Blackwater, too ...

let's connect the dots ...

These Guns for Hire -- In These Times Blackwater unites conservative Catholics, evangelicals and neoconservatives to fight a theoconservative holy war. As reported in Jeremy Scahill’s Blackwater, one of the largest providers of private security assets to the U.S. military is more than a...

http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2007/05/10305.php

and now ...

let's connect a few more dots ... just to keep the NeoCON/Republican Religiou$ Cru$ade$ going . . .

Romney run stirs old Mormon prophecy Some Mormons think Romney will fulfill prophecy and 'save' US Constitution.


. . .


The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy.

"You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed," the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. "It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber."

Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.

"Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion," the prophecy says.

and a few more dots ...

NeoCON writes the PNAC Plan to shred the Constitution and institute perpetual war and world dominion for the DOMINIONITS . . .

PNAC and the Future of America and the World Established in the spring of 1997 and funded largely by the energy and arms industries, the Project for the New American Century was founded as the neoconservative.Also see the video http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=pnac

oh, and another thing ...

The Corporate Takeover of U.S. Intelligence | Salon News The U.S. government now outsources a vast portion of its spying operations to private firms -- with zero public accountability.
 

Mara G. (411)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 4:17 pm
Thanks Boots, ya did it again. Noted one more Bush Blunder. Have Gun Will Travel!! If Bush can't get the Military to do his dirty work, then hire it out to Paid Gus. Nazi-ism never looked so good!!
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 4:49 pm
More Media Coverage for Day 4

TV cameras from KING-TV and KOMO-TV news departments from Seattle showed up today to get first-hand reports of Evan’s Tower Guard Vigil. It’s clear that the message about the injustice of military stop-loss policy is gaining momentum every day.

Even rain and thunderstorms couldn’t dampen Evan’s enthusiasm, as you’ll see in his daily video message on Washington Outsiders. His message today is directed to peace activists. There’s also some new photos.

Whirled Peas joins our list of supporters today who are helping to promote this action far and wide. One side effect of this vigil has been the organizing of a local independent media network. A dedicated group of local and regional bloggers have been posting reports of the vigil to blogs statewide and nationally. Has this influenced the mainstream media to give the event more coverage? It seems possible. Based on our experiences in the last few days, we’ll definitely continue to organize the effectiveness of our indy media network in the future. Thanks to everyone who is helping! It’s a real team effort!

http://towerguard.org/


 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (464)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 5:07 pm
Thank you Blue and Robert!
Here in the NW we are avidly following the Tower Guard Vigil.
I will bring a post on it forward!
Is it REALLY HAPPENING???
Is it STARTING???
We hope...........

Take a look at this Share:

Alert: SAYING F*** YOU TO BUSH, COMMANDER-IN-THIEF OF NO MAN'S ARMY!
(0 comments) — Dear Captain Sibert and Brigadier General Moore, As an esteemed US Attorney and a General, you both must have a sense of the potential significance of my separation hearing. The prosecution of a member of the inactive reserve under these circumstances ... more {from Adam Kocesh} Prosecuted, among other things, for saying the "F" word to the two abovementioned; and, by IMPLICATION, to BUSH THE TOP ARMY "COMMANDER". {NEVER FORGET IT FOR A SECOND!}

 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (464)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 5:16 pm
WHERE: Federal Building 104 E. Magnolia Street , Bellingham , WA
WHEN: 24-hrs. a day, June 1-7

Standing Tower Guard on a 6′ scaffold at the Federal Building in downtown Bellingham, Iraq Veteran Evan Knappenberger, 1st BDE, 4th Infantry Division, started a week-long vigil on June 1st to draw attention to the US military’s STOP-LOSS and INACTIVE RESERVE policies, which he submits are being used as a substitute for conscription in a political war.

“I spent a year in Iraq. I pulled 97 nights on tower guard,” explained Knappenberger. “Many of the friends I served with have completed their contractual obligations to Active Duty. Now, they’re being sent back to Iraq for their third or fourth tours. Some soldiers are getting called up after living years of civilian life.

“Stop-loss is an unethical policy.”

The Whatcom Peace & Justice Center, a non-profit organization in Bellingham, is supporting Knappenberger’s week-long action. “This is a powerful, highly-visible action,” said Executive Director Marie Marchand. “It’s a nonviolent, creative way of educating the public about this widespread exploitation and abuse of our soldiers.

“Evan has seen this injustice perpetrated against his friends and comrades. We will do everything we can to help him get his message out.”

Community members have shown an outpouring of support for Knappenberger, including help with night security, media outreach, meals, and solidarity. A new website has been set up: www.TowerGuard.org.

“People come out of the woodwork to support courageous leadership like this,” stated Marchand. “This is huge; and the news is spreading across the nation like wild fire.”



 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 5:19 pm
We can use this link to make sure that Evan's "Tower Guard Vigil" gets the press it needs:

Write a letter to the editor in three easy steps You'll love this, we hope. It's too good to be true.http://www.democrats.org/page/content/partybuilderLTE/
 

LadyLou B. (133)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 6:05 pm
Fantastic news ~ thanks Boots! And also to Brian X. Scott! Noted gladly!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 8:32 pm
Great news....noted/thanks
 

Good H. (3822)
Tuesday June 5, 2007, 9:22 pm
Noted; I suggest he propose a law making the use of National Guard troops for foreign occupations illegal. They are for NATIONAL GUARD duty, not Mercenary FOREIGN OCCUPATION.

 

John Jones (143)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 5:21 am
I tried to post a video about Blackwater a while back and it was one of the ones that wouldn't go thru. I'm sure some of you have had this problem lately. Go to youtube or google and search for Blackwater and you'll find plenty. And these people are financed by "Christians"? I don't know what Bible there reading but they go against everything Jesus taught.
 

Robert K. (437)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 6:23 am
John, yes I have had similiar problems also. It seems some of us are being censored, but with the multi-international billionaires controlling most everything!!! is it any wonder? 20,000 mercenaries with the best equiptment in the world and the backing of the U.S. warmongers and nuclear proliferation they alone could conquer most countries.
 

Robert K. (437)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 6:33 am
And for instance on Cyber censorship -- did anyone receive his ominous message?

My name is Clark Boyd, and I'm the Technology Correspondent for The World, an international news program co-produced by the BBC World Service in London, WGBH public radio in Boston, and Public Radio International. In my years covering tech, Internet censorship has become a hot topic. Recent reports indicate that the scale, scope and sophistication of Internet filtering are on the rise at an alarming rate worldwide. It's clear that many countries want to limit what their citizens can, and can't, see online.


That's why I'd like to invite you to participate in Amnesty International's live webcast, "The struggle for freedom of expression in cyberspace" starting today at 1:30 pm Eastern Time, 10:30 am Pacific Time. The presentation will last approximately 120 minutes, and will be available as an on-demand replay shortly after.
You'll hear from an amazing group of cyber-dissidents, bloggers, writers, technologists, lawyers and journalists, and can even contribute to the debate yourself!

Internet censorship touches on more than just technology; it's also about politics and big business, society and culture. The discussion is sure to be wide-ranging and free-wheeling. If you've got something to say on the topic, or just want to learn more, be sure to join us.

Log on to the event at www.amnestyusa.org/webcast.

Sincerely,
Clark Boyd


 

Michael Brewster (412)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 7:15 am
I hope that they make sure this does not happen. As far as I am concerned, they need this type of help in Iraq, but it should not be at the expense of the USA. The country of Iraq should pay for its own security forces and not ask us to pay it for them. Shame that the US even considers this type of thing.
 

Robert K. (437)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 8:33 am
And while the republian necons are conquering the world, and in Iraq for the Iraqi people's oil I am getting emails from young friends like Juliana F. in Lebanon begging the U.S. to let them live in peace. I hope she doesn't end up like Anne Frank --

There was a bomb explosion last monday near to my house. Thank God it only damaged the glass in my house but it would have been fatal. This is the 4th bomb for the past 40 days.
My country is turning into another Iraq. Stop US from interfering for God Sake!!!!
Now there were any killings but it might in the next one.
Please help us live in PEACE, we deserve it damn it!!!!

http://www.care2.com/c2c/photos/view/90/930284705/Damages_of_my_House/

 

Juliana Farah (187)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 9:52 am
Thanks Boots for forwarding my message. I just hope it helps.
It's getting worse by the day to live here.
This thing happend 2 blocks away from my house. For more photos copy and paste these links to your browser:
http://www.tayyar.org/tayyar/bouchrieh.htm
http://www.tayyar.org/tayyar/bouchrieh1.htm

There had been some frightning moment in the country and the "Fatah Al-Islam" did threaten the country for more bombing. So to this threats lotta people stayed home most of the time so they can be safe.
And what you can see the photos of my house, you can obviously say that even staying in our own house isn't dafe anymore!!!!!
 

Juliana Farah (187)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 10:00 am
And if you are wondering how this has anything to do with US interferance please note what "Seymor Hersh" said to CNN last march (that means 3 months, he told the media what's gonna happen to Lebanon next)

Hersh: Bush administration arranged support for militants attacking Lebanon David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday May 22, 2007

In an interview on CNN International's Your World Today, veteran journalist Seymour Hersh explains that the current violence in Lebanon is the result of an attempt by the Lebanese government to crack down on a militant Sunni group, Fatah al-Islam, that it formerly supported.

Last March, Hersh reported that American policy in the Middle East had shifted to opposing Iran, Syria, and their Shia allies at any cost, even if it meant backing hardline Sunni jihadists.

A key element of this policy shift was an agreement among Vice President Dick Cheney, Deputy National Security Advisor Elliot Abrams, and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi national security adviser, whereby the Saudis would covertly fund the Sunni Fatah al-Islam in Lebanon as a counterweight to the Shia Hezbollah.

Hersh points out that the current situation is much like that during the conflict in Afghanistan in the 1980's – which gave rise to al Qaeda – with the same people involved in both the US and Saudi Arabia and the "same pattern" of the US using jihadists that the Saudis assure us they can control.

When asked why the administration would be acting in a way that appears to run counter to US interests, Hersh says that, since the Israelis lost to them last summer, "the fear of Hezbollah in Washington, particularly in the White House, is acute."

As a result, Hersh implies, the Bush administration is no longer acting rationally in its policy. "We're in the business of supporting the Sunnis anywhere we can against the Shia. ... "We're in the business of creating ... sectarian violence." And he describes the scheme of funding Fatah al-Islam as "a covert program we joined in with the Saudis as part of a bigger, broader program of doing everything we could to stop the spread of the Shia world, and it just simply -- it bit us in the rear."



A RUSH TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS THE VIDEO




RUSH TRANSCRIPT

HALA GORANI: Well, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reported back in March that in order to defeate Hezbollah, the Lebanese government supported a Sunni militant group, the same ones they're fighting today. Seymour joins us live from Washington. Thanks for being with us. What is the source of the financing according to your reporting on these groups, such as Fatah al-Islam in these camps of Nahr el Bared, for instance? Where are they getting the money and where are they getting the arms?

SEYMOUR HERSH: The key player is the Saudis. What I was writing about was sort of a private agreement that was made between the White House, we're talking about Richard -- Dick -- Cheney and Elliott Abrams, one of the key aides in the White House, with Bandar. And the idea was to get support, covert support from the Saudis, to support various hard-line jihadists, Sunni groups, particularly in Lebanon, who would be seen in case of an actual confrontation with Hezbollah -- the Shia group in the southern Lebanon -- would be seen as an asset, as simple as that.

GORANI: The Senora government, in order to counter the influence of Hezbollah in Lebanon would be covertly according to your reporting funding groups like Fatah al-Islam that they're having issues with right now?

HERSH: Unintended consequences once again, yes.

GORANI: And so if Saudi Arabia and the Senora government are doing this, whether it's unintended or not, therefore it has the United States must have something to say about it or not?

HERSH: Well, the United States was deeply involved. This was a covert operation that Bandar ran with us. Don't forget, if you remember, you know, we got into the war in Afghanistan with supporting Osama bin Laden, the mujahadin back in the late 1980s with Bandar and with people like Elliott Abrams around, the idea being that the Saudis promised us they could control -- they could control the jihadists so we spent a lot of money and time, the United States in the late 1980s using and supporting the jihadists to help us beat the Russians in Afghanistan and they turned on us. And we have the same pattern, not as if there's any lessons learned. It's the same pattern, using the Saudis again to support jihadists, Saudis assuring us they can control these various group, the groups like the one that is in contact right now in Tripoli with the government.

GORANI: Sure, but the mujahadin in the '80s was one era. Why would it be in the best interest of the United States of America right now to indirectly even if it is indirect empower these jihadi movements that are extremists that fight to the death in these Palestinian camps? Doesn't it go against the interests not only of the Senora government but also of America and Lebanon now?

HERSH: The enemy of our enemy is our friend, much as the jihadist groups in Lebanon were also there to go after Nasrullah. Hezbollah, if you remember, last year defeated Israel, whether the Israelis want to acknowledge it, so you have in Hezbollah, a major threat to the American -- look, the American ro
 

Juliana Farah (187)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 10:00 am
And if you are wondering how this has anything to do with US interferance please note what "Seymor Hersh" said to CNN last march (that means 3 months, he told the media what's gonna happen to Lebanon next)

Hersh: Bush administration arranged support for militants attacking Lebanon David Edwards and Muriel Kane
Published: Tuesday May 22, 2007

In an interview on CNN International's Your World Today, veteran journalist Seymour Hersh explains that the current violence in Lebanon is the result of an attempt by the Lebanese government to crack down on a militant Sunni group, Fatah al-Islam, that it formerly supported.

Last March, Hersh reported that American policy in the Middle East had shifted to opposing Iran, Syria, and their Shia allies at any cost, even if it meant backing hardline Sunni jihadists.

A key element of this policy shift was an agreement among Vice President Dick Cheney, Deputy National Security Advisor Elliot Abrams, and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi national security adviser, whereby the Saudis would covertly fund the Sunni Fatah al-Islam in Lebanon as a counterweight to the Shia Hezbollah.

Hersh points out that the current situation is much like that during the conflict in Afghanistan in the 1980's – which gave rise to al Qaeda – with the same people involved in both the US and Saudi Arabia and the "same pattern" of the US using jihadists that the Saudis assure us they can control.

When asked why the administration would be acting in a way that appears to run counter to US interests, Hersh says that, since the Israelis lost to them last summer, "the fear of Hezbollah in Washington, particularly in the White House, is acute."

As a result, Hersh implies, the Bush administration is no longer acting rationally in its policy. "We're in the business of supporting the Sunnis anywhere we can against the Shia. ... "We're in the business of creating ... sectarian violence." And he describes the scheme of funding Fatah al-Islam as "a covert program we joined in with the Saudis as part of a bigger, broader program of doing everything we could to stop the spread of the Shia world, and it just simply -- it bit us in the rear."



A RUSH TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS THE VIDEO




RUSH TRANSCRIPT

HALA GORANI: Well, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh reported back in March that in order to defeate Hezbollah, the Lebanese government supported a Sunni militant group, the same ones they're fighting today. Seymour joins us live from Washington. Thanks for being with us. What is the source of the financing according to your reporting on these groups, such as Fatah al-Islam in these camps of Nahr el Bared, for instance? Where are they getting the money and where are they getting the arms?

SEYMOUR HERSH: The key player is the Saudis. What I was writing about was sort of a private agreement that was made between the White House, we're talking about Richard -- Dick -- Cheney and Elliott Abrams, one of the key aides in the White House, with Bandar. And the idea was to get support, covert support from the Saudis, to support various hard-line jihadists, Sunni groups, particularly in Lebanon, who would be seen in case of an actual confrontation with Hezbollah -- the Shia group in the southern Lebanon -- would be seen as an asset, as simple as that.

GORANI: The Senora government, in order to counter the influence of Hezbollah in Lebanon would be covertly according to your reporting funding groups like Fatah al-Islam that they're having issues with right now?

HERSH: Unintended consequences once again, yes.

GORANI: And so if Saudi Arabia and the Senora government are doing this, whether it's unintended or not, therefore it has the United States must have something to say about it or not?

HERSH: Well, the United States was deeply involved. This was a covert operation that Bandar ran with us. Don't forget, if you remember, you know, we got into the war in Afghanistan with supporting Osama bin Laden, the mujahadin back in the late 1980s with Bandar and with people like Elliott Abrams around, the idea being that the Saudis promised us they could control -- they could control the jihadists so we spent a lot of money and time, the United States in the late 1980s using and supporting the jihadists to help us beat the Russians in Afghanistan and they turned on us. And we have the same pattern, not as if there's any lessons learned. It's the same pattern, using the Saudis again to support jihadists, Saudis assuring us they can control these various group, the groups like the one that is in contact right now in Tripoli with the government.

GORANI: Sure, but the mujahadin in the '80s was one era. Why would it be in the best interest of the United States of America right now to indirectly even if it is indirect empower these jihadi movements that are extremists that fight to the death in these Palestinian camps? Doesn't it go against the interests not only of the Senora government but also of America and Lebanon now?

HERSH: The enemy of our enemy is our friend, much as the jihadist groups in Lebanon were also there to go after Nasrullah. Hezbollah, if you remember, last year defeated Israel, whether the Israelis want to acknowledge it, so you have in Hezbollah, a major threat to the American -- look, the American role is very simple. Condoleezza Rice, the secretary of state, has been very articulate about it. We're in the business now of supporting the Sunnis anywhere we can against the Shia, against the Shia in Iran, against the Shia in Lebanon, that is Nasrullah. Civil war. We're in a business of creating in some places, Lebanon in particular, a sectarian violence.

GORANI: The Bush administration, of course, officials would disagree with that, so would the Senora government, openly pointing the finger at Syria, saying this is an offshoot of a Syrian group, Fatah al-Islam is, where else would it get its arms from if not Syria.

HERSH: You have to answer this question. If that's true, Syria which is close -- and criticized greatly by the Bush administration for being very close -- to Hezbollah would also be supporting groups, Salafist groups -- the logic breaks down. What it is simply is a covert program we joined in with the Saudis as part of a bigger broader program of doing everything we could to stop the spread of the Shia, the Shia world, and it bit us in the rear, as it's happened before.

GORANI: Sure, but if it doesn't make any sense for the Syrians to support them, why would it make any sense for the U.S. to indirectly, of course, to support, according to your reporting, by giving a billion dollars in aid, part of it military, to the Senora government -- and if that is dispensed in a way that that government and the U.S. is not controlling extremist groups, then indirectly the United States, according to the article you wrote, would be supporting them. So why would it be in their best interest and what should it do according to the people you've spoken to?

HERSH: You're assuming logic by the United States government. That's okay. We'll forget that one right now. Basically it's very simple. These groups are seeing -- when I was in Beirut doing interviews, I talked to officials who acknowledged the reason they were tolerating the radical jihadist groups was because they were seen as a protection against Hezbollah. The fear of Hezbollah in Washington, particularly in the White House, is acute. They just simply believe that Hassan Nasrallah is intent on waging war in America. Whether it's true or not is another question. There is a supreme overwhelming fear of Hezbollah and we do not want Hezbollah to play an active role in the government in Lebanon and that's been our policy, basically, which is support the Senora government, despite its weakness against the coalition. Not only Senora but Mr. Ahun, former military leader of Lebanon. There in a coalition that we absolutely abhor.

GORANI: All right, Seymour Hersh of "The New Yorker" magazine, thanks for joining us there and hopefully we'll be able to speak a little bit in a few months' time when those developments take shape in Lebanon and we know more. Thanks very much.

HERSH: glad to talk to you.
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Hersh_Bush_arranged_support_for_militants_0522.html


This is exactly what's been happening right now in my country. So what do you think???
 

Juliana Farah (187)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 10:01 am
Sorry I had a bad connection so I sent a duplicate. I tried to erase one but couldn't know how.
Forgive me for that.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 10:53 am
Duly noted..and thanks Boots.....PEACE ON EARTH!!! PLEASE!!!
 

Robert K. (437)
Wednesday June 6, 2007, 3:11 pm
And ramifications of the neoconic conquest are coming in from all sides. Then with the neocons eyeing Iran -- is this the beginning of WWIII ????

Turkish officials say troops enter Iraq
By SELCAN HACAOGLU, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago

ANKARA, Turkey - Hundreds of Turkish soldiers crossed into northern
Iraq Wednesday pursuing Kurdish guerrillas who stage attacks on Turkey from hideouts there, Turkish security officials and an Iraqi Kurd official said.

The reports came amid worries Turkey might launch an offensive against the rebel bases, touching off a conflict with U.S.-backed Iraqi Kurds in one of Iraq's most stable regions. The U.S. is urging its

NATO ally not to strike, and Turkey's foreign minister denied any incursion occurred.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070606/ap_on_re_mi_ea/tur
 

Juliana Farah (187)
Thursday June 7, 2007, 11:13 am
I just read a comment from some irrational person over one colomn on care2.
Can anyone please read it???

By Lorraine Ewart on "Militants threaten to expand Lebanon camp war":
The energies that are being used to the degree that they are is to the point of ridiculous. Having Lebanon threaten other parts of Lebanon; why? I don't think that they know, we know, it's because their entire world is war. They really don't care where they are getting the war, as long as they have the adrenalin coursing through their veins they are happy; I can't see any other reasonable reason to have this war. Americans haven't any reason to be there any longer, they need to come home so that all can be protected and have some form of senseability from all of this. This war has been in error from the beginning. It wasn't realized as such at the beginning, but it has since come to the surface of the average mind that it shouldn't have ever been broached let alone gone beyond. Now it is realized that it was the one person alone that had this plan that was decided upon long before anything happened, before the 9/11. That alone was the reason for the plan to start this fiasco of a war. How does one close/end such a war? That is the question that is the most often asked.
http://www.care2.com/news/member/193692282/393294
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (464)
Thursday June 7, 2007, 5:54 pm
Juliana: The war {really, Occupation} of Iraq will end, WHEN THE TROOPS REFUSE TO FIGHT ANY MORE. When the troops REFUSE to go on patrol, refuse to obey orders, etc. That has ALREADY HAPPENED WITH AT LEAST ONE DIVISION over there. It may very well be spreading, we aren't being told.

What ended the U.S. involvement in Viet Nam, is that the troops, who at that time were draftees not "volunteers", were TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL and most of them REFUSED TO FIGHT. There is a documentary film on this, "Sir! No Sir!". What happened before, could happen again.

BUSH will NOT end the war. The U.S. civilian population, can HELP THE ARMY RESISTANCE with its support. Troops have smuggled e-mails thru the censorship curtain, PLEADING FOR OUR HELP SO THEY CAN COME HOME. We support ALL resisters, both Veterans and troops-on-the-ground resisting!
 

Robert K. (437)
Friday June 8, 2007, 9:53 am
If we were fighting for our families, our lives, our survival, our freedom or democracy it would be different. But we are not. This is a Bush neocon conquest for dominance, power and oil. SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME.. Iraq was demolished in the Gulf war, then years of sanctions putting many Iraqis on starvation in a ravaged war torn Nation. Stop this madness...BRING THE TROOPS - MOSTLY YOUNG UNS HOME.....
 

Carol W. (119)
Saturday June 9, 2007, 8:52 am

The Colorado man sets an exemplary example and now everyone should duplicate his success (file and add their insightful legal complaint) if only to emphasize the seriousness.
 

Robert K. (437)
Saturday June 9, 2007, 2:28 pm
The documentary as shown below explains a few of our interrogatives from which we have been so dumbfounded. Anyone that gets a chance needs to see it as the MSM will not show it afraid they will lose billions of dollars in advertisizing from these malevolents. See it, show screenings, or recommend it to others.

In this acclaimed documentary 'the Corporation' from the co-director of Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, 40 corporate insiders and critics - including Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, No Logo author Naomi Klein and Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman - explore the nature and spectacular rise of the most perasive institution of our time. Combining analysis with footage from advertising, television news and industrial films, The Corporation is an entertaining and provacative look at the inner workings, curious history, controversial impacts and possible futures of the modern global conglomerate. (Everyone should see this documentary) I bought it on site below. Got it in about 3 days. robert knowles

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=blended&field-keywords=the%20corporation%20dvd&results-process=default&dispatch=search/ref=pd_sl_aw_tops-1_blended_8573776_1&results-process=default


The Corporation



 

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Monday June 18, 2007, 10:45 am
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