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President Obama's re-election strategy for pretending that the past three years of a stagnated economy and dismal hope for any type of general 'recovery' is someone else's fault, is NOT likely going to fool the voters heading toward the 2012 election.

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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 7:01 am

After destroying the rest of the American economy, tripling the national deficit, blowing another trillion failed stimulus dollars and nearly doubling U.S. unemployment numbers ... Lincoln?, Washington?, ...

You've just got to be kidding us Mr. President!

"Obama Claims He's Fourth Best President Ever - Simply Laughable!!" -- Very Interesting Comments! @ Care2 News

President Obama at the very best currently stands a 50/50 percent chance of winning re-election 2012!!

Sad, but true.


Maggie S (40)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 7:22 am
And, don't forget his war on wildlife and abysmal environmental record! I am a lifelong Dem and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR NOBAMA AGAIN! I will not vote for any of the clowns running for the GOP either - they are an embarrassment as human beings let alone elected officials! I will vote independent or do write ins as I, like many many people, feel it is time to break the party hold on the public. It is time to be Americans again, not Repuglicans or Dumbocrats! There are better people out there who can lead this nation than NObama who is a big oil whore, and the brain dead Evangelical Tea Bagger Repugs!

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 7:27 am

Check this new candidate out here:

Green Party's Dr. Jill Stein For President 2012 - Homepage

Vote: Green 3rd Party 2012!!!

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 7:39 am

This information must be extremely upsetting and unsettling for the struggling delusional Pro-Obama Camp, but ...

Reality still rules the day!!

Arielle S (313)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 8:14 am
Reality? And exactly what would you know about reality, Pink? I would imagine it's rather difficult to see much of anything where you have your head...

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 8:14 am

Voters are NOT fooled ...

Fool me once Obama and shame on you, but fool me twice, then shame on me!!!

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Thursday December 22, 2011, 10:02 am

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 10:09 am
Very well stated Maggie. BOTH Parties are IN ERROR

Until the American people are willing to look outside of BOTH Parties we are going to have this back and forth crap we keep getting. They are all in the same bed with each other, different wings of the same bird, they are like the good cop bad cop routine.

I, along with many, are speaking out on this finally to say we are finished voting for the lessor of the two evils. As a life long Independent voter I have always looked for the best candidate and I see few of them left in the House or Congress that qualify to represent the "best" for America and her people or the environment. I certainly don't see any of the major players in the Presidential race I'd care to cast my vote for.

Signing in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 showed to me the traitors that are in Washington DC. If the American people fail to see that then we are a doomed Nation.

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 10:24 am
Not sure why the title to the story is such but the on to the video itself. The figures can always be juggled to fit the situation, we have an election year coming up, so all will do their best to make figure appear better. Extra hires for the Christmas season could be a factor then drop again, as the video stated some people are no longer counted they have fallen off the radar.

These figures do not take into account the very broken system we have. So we pull a few people into the job market and that leaves what?

Do they have living wages?
Do they have affordable health insurance?
How is the work environment? Friendly? Oppressive? Safe?

Outside of the job markets.
Is there affordable housing?
What about student debt?
Wars upon Wars?

Jobs is only a part of an overall picture. The system is broken.

Barbara W (342)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 10:43 am
"I am a lifelong Dem and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR NOBAMA AGAIN! I will not vote for any of the clowns running for the GOP either - they are an embarrassment as human beings let alone elected officials! I will vote independent or do write ins as I, like many many people, feel it is time to break the party hold on the public. It is time to be Americans again, not Repuglicans or Dumbocrats! There are better people out there who can lead this nation than NObama who is a big oil whore, and the brain dead Evangelical Tea Bagger Repugs! "

Who could hold a straight face and argue against this comment offered by Maggie? Not this lady who has had it with "TRAITORS" from both sides of the aisle, who "Dare" believe they are above the law.

Jefferson would say, "This CONGRESS has, on many occasions, performed "Gross Abuse Of Power.

Occupy is about to Occupy the courts. Occupy knows where the root of America's problems also lie "The court system and the not so SUPREME COURT"
When our great republic was formed over 200 years ago, our founding fathers took great care to protect it against capture. They did this through a clear separation of powers between three branches of government, each with different roles, responsibilities, and term limits:

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 11:07 am
Can't go green here Pink! Thanks!

Elaine Al Meqdad (283)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 11:31 am

Elaine A.

Group History 1 secs ago | Wish the Obamas Well for 2012

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With all due respect for the position of POTUS, I throughly look forward to the end of your term!
Thanks for signing the card
We'll pass along your well-wishes to the First Family.

This PinkMindy came to me this morning from the Obama people and you'll never imagine how much fun I had in Sending this reply to their (GET THIS) Own request for a Christmas card! Yep talk about an arrogant numbnuts figure for POTUS..........On second thought, I think you could totaly relat to my elation in send this message to that idot and his bat faced wife!

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 1:45 pm
Might not be that easy, he does have a lot of cash on hand.

Thursday December 22, 2011, 6:00 pm
People should start checking out Rocky Anderson, Judicial party. Sounds pretty interesting.

Jae A (316)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 6:39 pm
The title is for the rightwingcrazy and their assorted racist groups approval/attention Margaret. At this point no one else stands a chance against Obama...regardless of some opinions at this time...dissatifaction will not translate into a no vote as long as the other running are nothing short of a kookoos nest dog and pony show. Green party candidates can not raise the kind of money needed to win in my opinion. That is and has been their problem for too long now. They aren't crazy or hate driven so money doesn't come there way as easily might be the best guess as to why that is...well that and the GOP throws money at their efforts to destroy efforts of those on the green side of things.

One day Pink is bashing green project and then later.....well, most of us know how it's been going.
Pinks profile is all about animals ..for the contact friends list is my guess, but from all I've noticed of Mindys threads is that the vast majority are nothing more than anti=-Obama/racist baited threads my opinion.

As for 'above the law' that is how the GOP in Congress are behaving as if they all were above the law just as Reagan,Nixon and W each thougth they were.

Jae A (316)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 6:42 pm
Oh well say the title enough and maybe one or two new peole might believe's an old used and abused tactic of the rightwing to do such....just as Pinks thread about Obama being powerless and so forth...but then a few days later a thread posted by Pink stated how powerful he was. Pink is looking, to me, to be much like the flip flopper Mitt R.

Jae A (316)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 7:22 pm
Anyone,in my opinion, who is wanting to stop the GOP Congress insanitea as well as get the White House back on track as to working for the people again is to JOIN AN OCCUPY movement in you area. Don't wait for an election..our votes often don't matter,2000 election proved that beyond any doubt, so we can not depend on elections to get our nation back to being of the people,by the people and for the people of this nation once again.

Ok, turning the tread back over for the tolling of racist for which.. I beleive.. is the only purpose for the posting of it in the first place...

I would also like to state/make a Correction from an above comment of mine...Pinks profile is not 'all' about animals, just that much of it, a majority perhaps.. from what I saw when checking it out. Enviorment things also but as mentione...I haven't run across any animal threads of Pinks or even comments on many if any of others either .. not that I have noticed. I suppose if one wants to see what Pinks purpose on care2 is one might check Pinks thread posting record to see what topics Pink post articles about the most.

Jae A (316)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 8:03 pm
Before this thread disapears into the archives I would like to say that my comments as to Pinks profile page are and were out of curiosity as to why Pink spends more time on anti-Obama thread posting than on those about animals..Pinks time and energy could do a lot more for animals than anything Anti=Obama could be , in my opinion...but of course that is a choice thing and we all have that equal right on care2. ANyway...Happy Holidays to all...!

To help find political/economic solutions please JOIN and support an OCCUPY movement NOW . THey are the peoples opportunity to stop the political/corporate madness/greed/coruption and end their control of our government ....depends on all of us doing so I believe.

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 22, 2011, 10:43 pm
Jae, I always love it that you judge anyone who does not agree with you, as racist. Frankly, I'm sick of it. I dislike Obama for what he's done and what he stands for, irregardless of anything else! You always say "in my opinion," as if that covers for your accusations against any who intend to vote different from you. Just so you are aware, many of my friends who run different animal and environmental organizations, are Republicans. You always state that you are so sick of Pink and her accusations. WTF are you doing exactly? Enough is enough. You spew so much hate and consider everyone who may be Conservative as trash. You have judged everyone else as inferior, and continue to do this on every post of Pink's. Of course, this is just my opinion....

Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 9:54 am
Obama's poll numbers are up 53%to 47%!!!! lol

Smart people are on to the corporate fascism aided by the right. The enemy is out in the open with their attempt to raise YOUR taxes while fighting fiercely for the bush tax cuts on the rich...The cause of both depressions. Suck on that, mindyShill. You hateful, misinformed scum bag.

Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 9:55 am
Bush was YOUR error! Duh!!!

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 11:21 am
DIsagreeing with someone is not hatred "Inactivenomail offline'...[who appears to be active and on line at the time of "inactives " above posting...] .. If one has no point other than to post neg's about Obama with tabloid titles, as is the case and the majority of threads Pink post about becomes very clear that Pink is apparently not aware of the role COngresses plays in his administration, for starters bash Obama just for the sake of bashing...starts to look very 'racist ' to me.

My judgement that perhaps Pink could do more good posting and being an animal activst might be more of use than just continuing to post anti-Obama threads for no obvious reason other than that of ...racial ones my opinion.

"inactive"..but active enough to comment on this thread....I ask questions and state my opimion, just as you have with your opinion of myself and your 'judgement' call of myself. So how is your doing so, different than mine 'Inactive'....[ but active enough to come on a leave a comment on this thread for Pink...or so it would appear in my opinion]...?

I have no problem with people discussing the neg.'s of all sides ..I personally believe we are under a plutocracy and being 'played', in a manner of speaking by all sides. Solutions and the complexity of the 'many' who are still causing them for our people/nation are what I feel we need to be discussing, when possible but that doesn't seem to be on the mind of Pink in my opinion...only thing Pink appears to do on care2 is post anti-Obama things only, as far as I personally have noticed ...other than the random 'green' article which can be in the form of a neg. or possitive about not sure how Pink thinks on that...that flip flop kind of thing I mentioned early on .

I don't care for fakes and shrills who try and fool or deceive people, in personal life,public, and especially those in politics...but for certain for myself.... individuals are on that list also...whoever they might be or trying to appear to be.

Pink has aligned with the teabaggers as far as her postings in my opinion, even though Pink claims to be a green party supporter. Currently Obama is more for Green than any of those running against him so that makes me also wonder what Pinks point is with the Obama bashing if not a 'racist' thing ?

You are sick of whatever, you said "inactive" yet active currently, then I suggest you stop reading the threads and do something else. Politcs is a nasty business as is discussing it....if Pink can't answer questions ask of Pink... [I really have no idea if Pink is male or female so I use the name only],...instead Pink seems to only ask them of others. If Pink can't handle being disagreed with then Pink might need a change from politcal threads ...and that is why I suggested that perhaps Pink would do well to do more for animal threads and commenting on them, since that seems to also be an interest of Pinks.

Speaking of tiring 'Inactive...." my opinion The anti=Obama tabloid type threads for the sake of who knows what..rascism or whatever, are getting tiring to many of us but if they are being posted I for one will continue to leave my opinion on them . well as ask questions about them or of the poster...for them to answer/explain etc. Links to no where aren't much help when trying to figure out what someones purpose of their thread well as the topic of it. That's the way discussions take place on many a site...not just that of care2.

Everything Obama has signed has first been given the ok for his doing so by the GOP...who controls the House...otherwise it'd never reach his desk for signing. The GOP constantly adds their bills onto those that are for the betterment of society so they get signed for reasons other than the GOP's will. Holding bills hostage is nothing new for the GOP as most of us are aware...However that isn't something that Pink shows that Pink is aware of.....not that I have noticed on any threads. Pink doesn't comment on the whole of politics in general..only anti Obama things so what are we to believe is Pinks purpose for posting just those things the majority of the time 'Inactive...." ? It is what Pink and several teabagger shrills seem to only be positng and that makes me curious as to why more often than not, if not for the sake of rascism ?

Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 1:39 pm

Jason --

I wanted to share some good news with you. Today, President Obama signed into law a two month extension of the payroll tax holiday.

Our voices were heard and 160 million working Americans will be spared a $1,000 tax hike on their already tight budgets.

You made this happen. Nearly 300,000 of you fought right alongside with us.

On behalf of my Democratic colleagues, thank you for standing up for the middle class.

I wish each and every one of you a safe, happy and healthy holiday season.

Rep. Steve Israel
DCCC Chairman

We beat the Mindy shills!!! :)

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 3:08 pm
Awesome and thanks for sharing that on this thread with everyone. Good example of what the GOP/TeaBagger congress are trying to do to the point of not giving on just a two month extension that would help millions of struggling American families.... but fortunately, this time, the people..via that Deocratic/liberal/progressive efforts/actions,along with Obama holding firm on wanting the extension,the rightwing did not get their greedy corporate way this time.

My CONGRADULATIONS TO OBAMA also, as well as to all those who showed support for this extension and for his standing firm in support of it

James W (257)
Friday December 23, 2011, 3:15 pm
Joey Joey Joey Why don't you spend more time helping the animals instead of being one on these threads

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 3:50 pm
I don't see a post by a Joey James W. Four avatars with names that begin with a J other than yours, that I count, but no Joey.


Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 3:59 pm
Yes Jae, I know ~ it's a crime to say anything about your illustrious Saint Obama, as you are saying that's all that Pink does. But it's completely alright for you to slam every Conservative and Republican alive. In every post, you mention Bush. Yawn, yawn.

You know darn well who I am. I have my profile inactive because I cannot sign petitions or use my Care2 mailbox. So sorry this bothers you...

I find it ironic that you can post whatever articles you wish, but no one else should be able to post anything contrary to your beliefs. Double-standards personified. This is evident to everyone who does not think as you do, that posts comments here.

I am not Republican, but I admire many who are, as I mentioned, many of my friends are. They are all involved either in animal or environmental welfare organizations. I guess because of their political standing though, they are all racist Nazi's. I mean, according to you anyway, in your opinion. ~Andrea O.

Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 4:11 pm
I rest my case with the comment Jason made above to Pink, calling her a "hateful misinformed scum bag." You guys consider yourself adults, huh?

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 4:51 pm
Actually "Inactive" I don't know who you are other than an animal lover,one that is heavy on the religion side of things, etc.... which I gathered from a visit to your home page.

No one has said anything about other not being able to post what they they something contrary to my beliefs or are the one who is showing signs of being delusional. I am,and always have been fine with people posting whatever they like on any thread I post,or in their reply as to a comment of mine,even if not about the subject of the thread. I often post that on the threads I've posted in the past ...I also don't expect others,myself included, to not comment back in return. . .just as you are doing with your comments above in my direction. Just try and not lie about things would one said anything about others not being able or even thinking that others shuoldn't have a right to post what they think. That is a well know rightcrazywing tactic .... just thrwo B.S./Lies etc out there enough times and someone might believe it. Like the title of this thread and other threads of Pinks lately. i am not going to just let others comment,not in my direction especially, without a reply if I am aware of their doing so..and I certain can disagree with views I don't agree with. That is after all, a part of commenting on the threads , political ones especially,are here for the doing of just that. those who want to discussing things without others comments being the same as theirs have 'groups' on care2 for doing that. The threads are open for comments...regardless of who agrees or disagrees with them. That is something that Pink had a problem with ...and guess is...still does.

I have many Republican or two close ones..but I still don't agree with their politics in general but it's the rest about them that cause our friendships to exist. That would not be the case with the majority of rightwingers . I admire or like some Republicans...extremist no...but some others but for certain not those who are stupid and or just ignorant of facts and or who just pass on B.S. for the sake of passing on B.S. via thread topics. I also try and decide who post what and for what personal it their political views or ethnic views or religious views and so forth often helps to figure out 'where they are coming from' with their views on threads in order to relate or not to attempt to relate to/with them. That being said...I am not sure what your point is about when you referred to your republican friends...which I would think many of us on the left have some that are Republican. It's those who lie and or attempt to pass on B.S. and or who haven't a clue when it comes to the 'whole' of politics/government [s]... that I wouldn't take the time to get to know them, much less be friends,much less close friends, who are Republicans/Neocons/Teabaggers or whatever their political party choice is..

As for racist ...if the shoe fits..let em wear it. No one expects a racist,especially not when commenting on care2, to admit that they are.Generally they come back with..."oh playing the race card" or "i am so tired of all this racist aqusations'' etc...but not always of course. Sometimes they just ask friends to come and post that kind of B.S. on their behalf ...but not a one on care2 that are racist,not that I have noticed, will outright admit to being a racist on the care2 threads.

Many republicans supported Obama and some still do so I miss your point on all that Nazi business also. Those who support the GOP/TeaBaggers in this pollitical climate,currently and during Dubya reign of terror,are in my opinion Fascist they friends or not.

Not sure what your 'case' was other than to defend Pinks comments/thread/opinion/? but happy that you decided to give it a rest..but if you change your mind, come on back and post more would be my suggestion. Another would be not to expect others not to possibly comment/reply back to them.

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 5:13 pm
Correction....I did not gather that you were religious by your profile..but to me , your avatar hints of such. I did notice that you and Pinks profile page state that you are both methodist. Anyway, I assume you believe that I 'know who you are' from some animal thread but I really don't have a clue about you other than what your profile page states/shows about yourself. Other than this thread..and your comments on it, I really have no thoughts or opinions about you personally.

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 5:30 pm
I would now like to go and reply/give my opinion as to a comment that James W. made above about someone being an animal...which to many animal lovers and probably a majority of animal activist is something that is a good thing. Many think more of animals than they do many humans..something I can relate to as well. Depending on the type of animal and how one views them makes 'an animal' a possitive or a neg. I believe. An animal who fights those who are tyring to bring harm to him and those he cares for and harm in any way to it's world in general to me... is an ok one. As that animal is doing what it's instinct tells it to do. FIght back against those it believes to be attempting to bring harm to all those things I mentioned...which I think can also apply to humans . So if that is what makes one an 'animal'...well count me on that regardless of who you were directing that comment. That is exactly what I am fighting against on care2..those people who I believe are attempting,and all too often achieving to do so, to be bringing harm to myself,those I know/care about, our way of life as Americans and our world in general.

Past Member (0)
Friday December 23, 2011, 6:19 pm
Jae, what would we all do without your infinite wisdom? I guess the whole world would just perish. I have no idea where you came up with me being Methodist. I am Roman Catholic. It is impossible to reason with you in any way possible, so to waste my time is pointless. You are perfect, and always right. It must be so fantastic to be you. I guess we all have to aspire to that. Perhaps some future culture will revere you as a God.

For someone who makes a comment to another about being more involved in animal issues, it's funny. I have signed over 6,500 petitons and comment on animal issues, and funny, I don't see you on them. You can't call out someone else to do something you don't do yourself. You are certainly not known to the hardcore animal issue people here on Care2, as an animal activist.

So if you would like to blow some more hot air, go ahead. I'm done with you on this article. You can't reason with someone who doesn't have a reasoning mind ~ in my opinion.

Jae A (316)
Friday December 23, 2011, 7:23 pm
I doubt that the whole word reads comments on care2 or even a majority but go with that if you wish. I see you have no shortage of your own brand of wisedom to spread about but that's different being that those are your opinons/wisedom... . My mistake about you're profile showing that you are Methodist...Your avator does suggest Catholic. It is James W's profile page that states his religion as being Methodist as does Pinks. I had been to each of your profile pages within minutes of one another.

As for all that opinion as to who you feel I am :-), it isn't how I think of myself burt if it's your opinion then so be it. Those with Avators deplicting 'Mary' I would think might think,could suggest to some that they are the ones would think of themselves to be like the mythical character Mary [my opinon she is a myth], somewhat perfect and the other things you mentioned. I think it was Lilith who also used that same avator for a short period but then perhaps not. Anyway... your judgement calls are yours to make in mine or anyone elses direction. It's become the norm for many Christians these days....judging others, just as you are doing in my direction,but who get the most uptight about others doing the same. Not being religious I have nothing against being judgemental...which is also called have an opinoin about and a few other ways of wording it that I can think of. Most of us make 'judgement' calls about others daily...but fewer admit to doing so from what I have noticed about people in general.

I guess that you believe that anyone who holds firm to his beliefs and states them on threads as being someone who thinks they are always right. Reality is that few who post comments on threads, in my opinion, think of themselves.much less believe themselves, as always being right...but often many are so I don't see a problem with being right least some of the time .

As for it being fantastic being me...why hell yes...I think so...duh !! I enjoy being me doubt about that...and I hope that most people enjoy being who they are but I do know that some don't ..but you are right..I am not one of those. So what is your point other than attempting to be cleaver/humorous or just passing judgement if that is your point?

As for a future culture revering me as a God, I'd hope not ,as I don't believe in Gods of any brand so it would not be something I'd think of as anything special to begin with. But if that happens ... I doubt that I will have a say in the matter or give a flip,to state it politely, one way or the other.

I don't sign many animal petitions as they are often not petitions I agree with...or ones from activist groups that I do not support...nor do I consider myself an animal activist..only an animal lover and in case you've missed it...I mentioned that on threads before; that I am an anmal lover but not a hardcore or even a mildly so animal activist. I read more of the threads to do with animals than I comment on.. that is a given. So what does this have to do with being 'an animal' on a thread anyway "Inactive" ?..I can only assume that line of comment from you was trigged by my comment about being one. In case you haven't thought of it "Inactive" many people who never sign a petition are volenteers for animal shelters,donate money to animal causes and so forth. Signing one or a zillion petitions is not the only way of supporting a variety of animal rights/causes.So I personally don't believe you know just who does what in their life, over all, when it comes to animal causes..especially if that is done outside of the care2 system. But apparently you feel you can make such a judgement call ...which it is what you seem to be attempting to do in some way to me with that comment.
Many people do go to other sites and use their time elsewhere to do with many causes. SO again..what is your point about the animal petions ?

As far as I know the rules of care2 to be...anyone can have an opinion and state them on care2 and never sign a petition of any type "Inactive".;.[but active today obviously]. At least I do not know of any rule on care2 that states differently in order for someone to post a thread or a comment on a thread. So again I ask, what is your point about the petition thing other than to maybe let it be known to anyone reading it how many you've signed. Animal,political, or whatever catagory...a good thing credit wise, if one has the time to do and agree with petitions but beyond that...?? I really am not sure how you are so sure that I haven't signed many of the links on animal threads..and political often have petitions on sites other than care2 ? I have signed some for each of those on other sites and political petitions on care2 . I really don't know if any animal petitions I've signed in the past are ones that are on the care2 site itself or not. As I've mentioned...I come to the political threads more than the other catagories and for reasons as I've stated above.

I am not trying to reason with anyone...perhaps you might give that some thought yourself..but if that's what you prefer..knock yourself out. I just state my opinions...not to win any battles...change anyones mind..or to reason with them. To leave my opinion,post a topic thread,and get the credits for doing so...that's about all ..I...feel is what I care to do. Judge that however you wish 'inactive'... in name only. :-)

Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:22 am
Oh...believe it or not...:)...I forgot to cover this when taking about the animal petitions ...You [Inactiv____} said above which might have something to do with my not getting your point about the animal petitions,which might be due to well read on and maybe you'll see why for yourself. You said.... "You can't call out someone else to do something you don't do yourself." By that statement I take it that you have made up more I know of no such rule on care2...but that's beside the point..My point about that statement is that I did not say anything about calling on someone to go to the animal threads and sign once again you are wrong when it comes to what I said...which anyone who wants to take the time to read all my above post will clearly see that I didn't. So again I ask, what is your point about animal petitions other than trying to put words into what I said that weren't said/typed, ..."Inactive" ?

I am not sure why it is that you believe others will follow your made up rules or for others to be expected to post according to what you think their reply will or should be...that sort of jugement call isn't always a good idea in my opinion , but hey...if that's is what you want attention brought to then go for it...just don't expect myself to follow your lead or to assume what my responce will be when commenting....that is honetly the best suggestion I have for you when in a discussion with myself...only thing you can be assured of about myself is.... that I will reply if I am aware of comments directed in my direction on a thread.

I really can't get over how much your comments do remind me of Lilith...missquoting others...making up rules...and a number of other things about your wording and 'style' of comments...weird huh. said something above in a comment,to the effect, that you were finished with our I guess that you meant it...but if not...I for one will not hold you to that...nor do I expect you to keep to that statement, should you decide differently. I have the time this weekend if you do care to return for more commenting/bantering back and forth between the two of us...; or however many others you'd like to bring along with you to join in on comments...about myself or even some about the subject of the thread...of which I still stand by my origional/first comment on this thread about the subject/article/title. Speaking of things that are Weird... I can not find one on the subject of this thread being made by you on it..but perhaps I just over looked it somehow ? Surely you didn't come to this thread,on your own or even by request to just make comments about myself instead of the subject.... or not doing so without first commenting on the subject of the thread. I would think that type of thing would be one of your rules but then your rules are a mystery in general to me so perhaps not.

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 6:09 am

Everyone has the right to their own opinion concerning President Obama, but ... really, well I can see that a few people still are holding fast to their empty Pro-Obama Campaign 2008 'Hope & Change' rhetoric and propaganda.

There exists across the Internet more than enough evidence of Obama being nothing more than a third-rate Chicago politician, stuck in a perpetual snare of gridlock and becoming documented as an Epic Failure as president beneath even Jimmy Carter!

If Obama jumped as high as He could jump, even then Obama could never touch Jimmy Carter's socks ...

In my opinion, of course.

Here is a list of Obama’s documented lies 'so far', with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie, then please submit it here:

List Of President Obama's Lies & Failures, So Far @

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 6:15 am

Care2 Green Star of Thanks goes out to AndyNoMail for his previous comment!!

MmAway M (506)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 1:26 pm
Oh Dear!

This is becoming a RING-Around-The-Rosie with two people that...Ummm, Jae we already know that we are NOT in the same choice with OBAMA, but goodness, be gentle to people - you are spewing things that hurt me to read them and the other person is trying to defend what they believe!

Get a Life (I do remember you Love your Mac! and have a LIFE) and Let Political Issues be just that...No ONE agrees (especially in Washington, but hopefully we are not out to BEAT SOMEONE ON THE HEAD TO MAKE WHAT WE THINK known! Kinda like a REDNECK THAT needs what they want for all to WANT!

You will NEVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE MAKE ME BELIEVE IN OBAMA after all of the Lies and things he has done to EMBARASS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...Even some Marines that have gone to war and have passed on, their children DON"T WANT anything from this GUY, while they can get a Certificate from the President They are Passing on that! UMMM Don't blame them one bit -- I would hate to have a signed certificate of my Dad's Marine Service Signed by Obama who is Kissing all of the backsides of people...We here in the USA have Lost all of our Special gift for being a Power, we are now SLUGS and in TROUBLE!

Maybe you just don't get the term "KINDNESS" and difference of opinion, sadly, I am Sorry you are that way, this is the wrong time to type in anger...Get a grip and let people just have what they think. No need to try to Make your own opinion beliefs be stuck ON all!

BTW...Obama is on a Flipping vacation -- Umm....he doesn't care about what is going on, and hope HE is walking on the Beach and Gets Knocked in the Knoggen with a Coconut that fell off of one of the trees! WISE UP! Be more llike a Kennedy (we are talking Dems so had to use JFK or any of them)! Maybe he won't be the "Yes" man and will STOP MAKING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA look like we are kissing everyones #!#!~Mm Gentle! That gets better replies! Some of us are all here living with a Disaster, who gave it to is is a NON-Subject! OBAMA or BUSH WHO FLIPPING CARES it is HERE!!!...Though I DID NOT VOTE for OBAMA I had hope, but seeing him being a "YES SIR" to people that are not the United States Friends Made me furious! The amount of Government Control right now is OBSCENE and needs to be taken away....I know I wasn't born in a Dictatorship, but sadly the USA has gone there with OBAMA....and those of you that believe I am wrong take a peek at all of the things that are now under Government Control...We had a TON AFTER 911, but sadly, it has gotten so bad now!

Have at me! Not going to take the Bait and if I do it is only because I am seeing what has transpired since this UMMM NO-BAMA has been in office...More business closing, high insurance rates, and homeless people walking the streets...Ya think he really cares?? Not me! I think this guy really wants to be on Air Force One for as long as he can - take all of the trips he can, cave into any pressure - Jeeze, when he does get out of office he will make even more $$$ making speeches, but HOPE HE HAS his TELE-Prompter!

Do believe I see a Figure with a Bobbing head like the older days that were in cars...Yes, I agree, No I don't agree, OOPS, YES I AGREE.

Sorry Pink, Went Rapid when I saw attacks...This to me is not what Care 2 is about! It's called CARE for a reason...YA GOT ME JAE...DON'T LIKE OBAMA and for sure will get out in California to do what I can to make sure this Loose Cannon gets Pushed out of his Padded Seat!

Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:18 pm
FYI...I do not support Obama..but that doesn't mean that I support anyone of the right or anyone running actually. So Maryln M. as well as others are assuming way too much as for my thoughts about Obama. Lots of wasted words there Maryilynn..but thanks for joining 'the two' ,adding your judgement calls about others etc., even if you are as off base with your assumptions as "Inactive___' is.

I just don't happen to believe that there is anyone running who is capable of beating him...

Another FYI...every president for decades has used 'Tele-prompters' to give important speeches. So why even go there ? THat 's the kind of tabloid trash talk that seems to be the focus of the right...tabloid B.S. and for what purpose do any of you think it serves ? Just sounds stupid and petty to me when there are real problems to be solved that go beyond the reach of the next election. OH well,..carry on with your incorrect assumptions or whatever it is you folks find thrilling about tabloid journalism that go for the hype and rediculous titles.


Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:24 pm
Correction...spelled a name incorrectly...that of Marilynn M..

If those who made the incorrect assumptions in their above coments about my thoughts and or support in general had read other threads lately on care2 other than those posted by Pink, they might have seen where I've posted my lack of support for has Mac. I believe we are caught up in a plutocracy and none of those running for president will be any different than any of the others running...some less crazy than Perry,Bachmann,Newt but still , once whoever is elected the corporate coup that was set in stone during the Dubya years will still be in charge of our government unless we do more than just change presidents,in my opinion.

Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:36 pm
I use to support Obama,as did the majority of Dem.'s / Progressives on care2 but that was back then not now. I would like to suggest that Pink,Inactive____,and Marilynn all try and keep up with the changes instead of...assuming...adding words where they were not said...etc, before they 'attack' another commenter. I do believe that both Inactive and Marilynn were names I did not mention prior to their comments in my direction...which by their contents could only be seen as 'attacks'. I did not address either or disagree or agree with any comment of theirs prior to their 'attacks' about my self and my comments. So I also suggest you think about that as not do be the one doing the attacking in the future. In my opinion : If a person is going to attack someone else on a thread, be sure you are not doing so based on assumptions or misinformation about another...

Jussssss say'n....

Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:49 pm
You are right about one thing in my direction Marilynn M...Mac and I do have a life..a very enjoyable and productive one together in fact. . .Yes folks, we are a gay couple...married in Ca. ,after 30 years together,in 2008. .and ya know what else Maryilynn,Pink and Inactive...Obama does still appear to be Black but I doubt that any of you have noticed [winkwink,nodnod].. As far as the rest of your comment about Mac and life etc.......well Marilynn my above comment...posted : "Saturday December 24, 2011, 3:36 pm" ; if haven't done so already.

Yep...Jussss say'n.

MmAway M (506)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 10:33 pm
Jae, Blessings to you, sorry you got wound up during this special time of year.

Just want to say I am going to Pray hard for you to get it together!

Blessing to all and especially YOU JAE may you have a wonderful Christmas...

Jae A (316)
Saturday December 24, 2011, 11:39 pm

When people say that I said things that I didn't and assume they know all about my thoughts on politics or whatever ...and in their doing so they are so far from any semblance of realiy.. well then , the reality is... that I don't get 'wound up.'..I reply with the facts. When people hint at their homophobia,my guess in hopes that others of like minds as themselves will join in on that hint , well than I do then get a little pissed but never 'wound up 'as you are saying ..which once again is just another incorrect assumption of yours.

FYI ..again.... Marilynn, I must say that I find your last comment to be nothing more than a lame attempt at damage control...but what the heck, it is xmas eve. Have a happy one.


Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday December 25, 2011, 9:18 pm
Jae, I always love it that you judge anyone who does not agree with you, as racist.

Andy..But that is what Obama himself told Clinton when they were out golfing and Clinton had been spreading the word that Obama was sinking the Democrat party and taking the country with it..Obama called him on it and Clinton told him to his face that yes..that's what he was doing...Obama lipped off and told Clinton he was a racist just like the rest of them!! ROTFL Any wonder why his followers would call everyone racist when they don't agree with them!?

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Monday December 26, 2011, 8:52 am
Think outside of the box people. Its been made clear to me from a number of different people from different points of view, that our foreign policy and monetary system are trash. Keep up with the insanity of both of those issues and nothing will ever get fixed.

Past Member (0)
Monday December 26, 2011, 4:19 pm

Maria p (151)
Tuesday December 27, 2011, 5:13 am
Obama's poll numbers are up 53%to 47%???? Were in heavens did this come from????The news people??? If you read comments on Obama, most people want him out, now how can this % be so high??? I do not believe the news gives us correct information myself, they want us to believe that he has done wonders, were are the jobs, extensions on unemployment is what they did last year, has not help with increasing jobs, and beside for all of you that are not aware of this, only certain states get extensions, I know that for a fact, my brother collect 72 checks and was told the state were he was collection was not part of the extentions. Big deal he is givng the average family a couple bucks, just a few more bucks for gas and oil people to make more of a profit on the 99%. Both parties are not good, they can't agree on much of anything, plus has anyone seen any cuts in their paychecks????they give up nothing.


Micahel Dewey (1021)
Tuesday December 27, 2011, 6:00 am
Blacks defending Ron Paul, who have done their home work

Jae A (316)
Tuesday December 27, 2011, 6:46 am

Disagreeing with someone is one thing...which I did about my not thinking that there is anyone running currently who can beat Obama. Then I went into my thoughts as to threads that I feel are posted just for the trolling for racist to join in ...and that is entirely different than disagreeing or agreeing Carol D.....which is what my comments were about along with replying to those who made personal comments in my direction...just am I am doing in your direction due to your comment mentioning myself. We each have that right and the post are proving that as they continue so what is all the clapcrap about it not being to begin with ? One should expect to be disagreed with on political threads...if not...there are the private groups for 'choir' meetings where everyone is expected to agree .

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion..but others are also intitled to give there in return..That is the nature of threads and those who would prefer it not to be that way...well,as I just mentioned above... there are private groups for 'choir' gatherings so ta say. If one can not handle those who disagree with them then perhaps it would be wise for them to do that or ta say :-).

I personally don't see any signs of Ron Paul being a racist nor being homophobic. I am bothered by his being a Dominionist...wants to end medicare and SSI for seniors...and every other kind of social services for those who need it the most. I also feel his 'religious' lean is a tad over the top to the point of his not being able to seperate church and state if he were elected. States could easily go bankrupt under his thinking in my opinon. Not a good thing for anyone I don't believe. As mentioned before , I really feel that changing presidents is no solution when Congress makes the laws and decides who gets the money and they are who we all,I think, need to focus the most attention . They are my first choice when it comes to who needs to get back on track and start working for the people once again instead of Wall Street no matter who the president is or will be. I do wish there were a good alternative to all who are running this time but I really do not see any of them, other than Obama winning in 2012 at this time. Even if he doesn't I do feel that the torch of the Dubya years will continue to be passed on to the next administration unless we can do something to stop the entire rightwing/Republican/Neocon/TeaBaggers in Congress from working for Wall Street and not the people..and a probably 2/3 of Dems. in Congress as well. Fact is Ron Paul is a Republican first of all now.

Unless the people manage somehow to stop the flow of Corporate money from owning every politican,Paul just as any other presently running in my opinion on that level. We will not be able to return to the Republic that this nation once stood for that was of the people,by the people and for the people unless we control Congress and not the corporations. Congress is where the buck needs to stop I think and where the serious changes need to be made first.

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Tuesday December 27, 2011, 7:02 am

Tent cities are springing up and enlarging across the U.S. as more families are being forced to the streets to fend for themselves. Meanwhile politicians such as President Obama continue to carry on their defraud by giving money to corrupt bankers!!

"USA Tent "Cities" Rise As Economy Crumbles - News Video" @ Care2 News

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Tuesday December 27, 2011, 7:13 am
I'd like to hear Paul talk of the North Dakota State Bank as the way out of the Fed, and would be how to keep capital on the States. It seems like it would fit right in with Kucinich's plans of putting the Fed under the treasury (Which now looks to be the other way around.) and print its own US Notes as Lincoln did, and fazing out fiat banking in 10 years. Those notes could be given to the State Banks for them to invest in the States.

Past Member (0)
Friday December 30, 2011, 8:19 pm
How long are you going to remain stupid as to how government works, mindy shill? The republican house won't give Obama a jobs bill to sign.!!!!!!!!

I wanted to share some good news with you. Today, President Obama signed into law a two month extension of the payroll tax holiday.

Our voices were heard and 160 million working Americans will be spared a $1,000 tax hike on their already tight budgets.

You made this happen. Nearly 300,000 of you fought right alongside with us.

On behalf of my Democratic colleagues, thank you for standing up for the middle class.

I wish each and every one of you a safe, happy and healthy holiday season.

Rep. Steve Israel
DCCC Chairman

We beat the Mindy shills!!! :)
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