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Abbott & Costello Talk About Obama's Unemployment Numbers


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PinkMindy
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Everyone has the right to harbor their own personal hardcore self-Obama-protectionist opinion, even though the facts never add-up against and over-power true reality, but that's exactly what happens when you're wearing those special rose-colored glasses!



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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 9:06 am

"Abbot & Costello Talk About Obama's U.S. Unemployment Numbers" @ Facebook

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COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America .

ABBOTT: Good "subject" in these terrible "times." It's about 9%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: You just said 9%.

ABBOTT: 9% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 9% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 9%...

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 9% or 16%?

ABBOTT: 9% are unemployed. 16% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed. You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ... they are out of work!

ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work, can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.

COSTELLO: To who?

ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work... Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles, that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 9%. Otherwise it would be 16%. You don't want to read about 16% unemployment do ya?

COSTELLO: That would be frightening.

ABBOTT: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means there are two ways to bring down the unemployment numbers?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said, but now everyone completely understands why Obama's unemployment figures are improving!

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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 9:17 am

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PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 9:24 am

"The Anti-Obama Nation" @ Facebook is made-up of many like-minded individuals who are taking action now!!
 

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Sunday February 19, 2012, 9:42 am

"Obama Budget Proposal To Set Up Year-End Clash With Congress" @ Youtube
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:04 pm
COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work... Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles, that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

About sums it up.....I guess is why they want to lower the amount of weeks to collect unemployment. That would push people faster off the roles and now we'd have fewer "unemployed". Doesn't matter that they now just fell into poverty and may now need to live in the woods or under a bridge.....but heck the numbers look better so we must be doing better.

That is the problem with the so called numbers. I formally worked for the Commonwealth of Massachusetts so we had our numbers too. We counted someone as being successfully employed if they were taken off our rolls and entered employment, didn't matter if they were off the rolls for a month, they were off.

Most couldn't stay employed for long as the pay rate was so low they couldn't afford Day Care, food as they would loose Food Stamp, now their sick children had no medical insurance, which most companies if they even offered it was a six month wait sometimes, if a child had a pre-existing condition they couldn't get any medical coverage at all. So the poor women quit the jobs and came back onto the rolls.....but the employment program was considered a success.......after all the numbers said so.

What a joke, what a farce. Meanwhile the people continue to suffer.
 

Ingrid A. (532)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:19 pm
Means the same to me. Thanks PinkMindy.
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:21 pm

The unemployment situation is far much worse than we are being allowed to completely realize and its long-lasting effect upon our American society is mentally demoralizing its people!!!

 

Dandelion G. (384)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:35 pm
I agree PinkMindy. My son graduated in 07 from High School, his buddies all full of hope and energy to start their adult years, I recall them well, 5 young boys. Today, only my son has had full time employment and is due to fact he joined the military. One young man got a job, but had to move from Florida to Oklahoma, and met a woman, they had a baby, and after only 1.5 years of work was laid off. He had to move her, his son, to Florida where they moved in with his Mother. He finally just found work again, but now his marriage is gone, as fiancial stress took it's toil.

Another young man stayed so long on his Dad's sofa that he became an alcoholic along with him, no work he could find, his sister finally sent for him to move with her in Washington State in hopes of saving her brother. The other two are still living at home, best they get is spotty work, fix someone's shed for a few bucks, mow a few lawns, Christmas help then get let go afterwards. It has left all these young men broken, discouraged, and the spark they had 5 years ago is gone, they all are a shell of their former selves.

My daughter is trying to find full time work, it's been 2 years for her, she lives with me, many a night she cries as she can't take flight, she wants a place for herself and my granddaughter, many of her friends have no jobs or part time jobs, no benefits, minimum wage, just slugging along with no real hope in sight.

I fault not only Obama, but the Congress and the House......of BOTH Parties. They play the cards for the well to do and leave the rest of us to sink. The youth want to work, feel better about themselves, but when it has a long duration, years, and one still can't get a leg up, it becomes very demoralizing for sure. On the other end of the charts is those 50 and older but still too young to be able to collect Social Security, they are the hidden ones that are quietly suffering.......
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:49 pm

That's exactly true Dandelion and simply boiled down ...

Obama = NO DIFFERENCE!!! (No Matter For What Reason) ...

So therefore Obama's new re-election Campaign 2012 slogans that are replacing his old 'Hope & Change' and 'Yes We Can' are to be considered just as BOGUS as his original Campaign 2008 propaganda rhetoric!!!

NO DIFFERENCE!!!
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 12:59 pm
That is why I support now the Justice Party with Rocky Anderson.....along with my efforts with the Occupy Movement. I'm done with the two party corrupted theives that have led this Country and the majority of the people in it down the drain. Obama has the same Wall Street people around him that crashed this economy, I'm tired of the Dick Cheney's and the rotating door that go from the Private Industry to VP in the White House that pushed in the Halliburton Loophole, the same old song and dance. All they do is suffle the deck chairs around on the Titanic, it does nothing to stop it from sinking.
VOTE ROCKY
This Party will NOT accept more than $100 per individual or Corporation......it is a long haul against the billions of the other Parties, but if we vote with our bodies, and grassroots efforts, anything can happen. At the very least I hope the Justice Party will light a fire under the other Parties to start working FOR the people, not just for their own special interests.
 

. (0)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 1:12 pm
noted...thanks Pink. Loved the A&C routine...too bad it's true.......send me some rose colored glasses please..:)
 

Liliana D. (124)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 1:18 pm
noted.....sounds very familiar.....
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 2:11 pm
Noted, seems simple to count, but think any politician should realize that approximately 65% of all hiring is associated with the job-to-job movement of workers through the labour force, which neither adds to nor subtracts from total employment, so when they say new jobs, frequently it's not a net new job.
 

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 3:01 pm
This cannot be the party platform of the actual Green Party. My understanding of the Greens is that they are quite liberal. All we ever see from the Greens posted in the groups is right wing screeds about Obama - as if one person could be responsible for it all. We never see anything about the Party of "NO" from the Greens. Does this mean that the Greens support right wing extremist obstructionism? Wow. I can't support that at all. Very one sided and not at all objective.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 3:18 pm
Love it Pink! Thanks!
 

Jennifer C. (169)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 3:55 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing.
 

Raymond G. (12)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 6:10 pm
Noted! And yes all of Washington takes blame for the sad state we are now suffering, with no real end in site.
 

Laurie S. (73)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 6:35 pm
Noted. Thanks!!
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday February 19, 2012, 6:51 pm
... aaand here are the numbers to back it up: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.a.htm
Check out how stable the Employment-population ratio is. Also take a look at the "Unemployed" line (drop by ~1.1 million over four months) and compare it to the part time workers (+500,000) and out of the labour force (+9,000), and the "not in labour force" (+~3.4 million).

Don't worry about the apparent 36% unemployment from the participation-rate. The civilian noninstitutional population includes children and the retired, I think.

It looks to me like a lot of people exited the labour force entirely during this time, possibly to go back to school or something. That, or baby-boomers are retiring en masse, leaving jobs open. Altogether, I think new jobs may actually account for about half of the drop in "unemployment".
 

Past Member (0)
Monday February 20, 2012, 12:11 am
Absurd. Numbers, numbers, numbers, our governments manipulate them constantly. Thanks for the insight.
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Monday February 20, 2012, 5:19 am

Are you eating cake?

"Let's Move! First Lady Jets To Aspen For Ritzy Ski Trip" - Eat Cake??? @ The Washington Times

Are You In ............ FORECLOSURE???


"Let's Move! First Lady Jets To Aspen For Ritzy Ski Trip" - Eat Cake??? @ The Washington Times:

http://times247.com/articles/michelle-obama-enjoying-pricey-ski-vacation
 

John Gregoire (264)
Monday February 20, 2012, 5:43 am
That's the second time today I was reminded of the old saw "Statistics lie and liars use statistics". Thanks for the laugh. We need you and Dandelion to start telling us the good poitns of the Green and Justice candidates. We have seen so very little other than links. Like the two of you, I have had it with the so called major parties and their people. How anyone can be so naive as to still support Obama is beyond me.
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Monday February 20, 2012, 6:22 am

GO GREEN THIRD PARTY PIRATES!!! @ Care2 Groups

Dr. Jill Stein For U.S. President 2012 - Campaign Homepage
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Monday February 20, 2012, 6:44 am
There is various information to be found on the internet, just plug in Rocky Anderson, or Justice Party, or go to Youtube, Rocky has been on many shows, Dylan Ratigan, Rachael Maddow, plus there are other videos he is on with Ralph Nadar at anti War rallies. The hot link I gave above has information on it....one can also check on this link as well.
THE JUSTICE PARTY
 

joyce D. (53)
Monday February 20, 2012, 9:12 am
You Rock Pink!
IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA IN 2--8 TO PROVE YOU AREN'T A BIGOT
VOTE FOR RON PAUL IN 2012 TO PROVE YOU AREN'T AN IDIOT
RON PAUL 2012
 

Billie C. (2)
Monday February 20, 2012, 3:01 pm
thanks pink obama does remind me of a vaudeville routine. to bad we have to have a comic that isn't funny in office. time to vote him out.
 

Agnes N. (717)
Monday February 20, 2012, 7:33 pm
Thanks Pink
 

KS Goh (0)
Tuesday February 21, 2012, 5:12 am
Thanks for the article.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 21, 2012, 10:03 am
LOOK AT WHAT A MESS THE REPUBLICANS PUT US IN!!!

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Tel us all about how bad the Liberals are, dinkmindy! LOL
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 21, 2012, 10:04 am
You would think the campaigns would talk about the economy. The right can't touch it so we get Pindy to tell us all about it.

The republicans still did this to us. 100%!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 21, 2012, 11:12 am
Here's more on the destructive republican party.. Stop the hate, Pindy...Paul...
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Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 21, 2012, 12:56 pm
40 republicans DIDN'T want us to have tax relief during their depression!!!

Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act - Vote Agreed to (60-36, 4 Not Voting)

The Senate gave final approval to the agreement to extend the Social Security payroll tax rate cut, which was reduced from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent last year, through the end of 2012. The bill also extends certain unemployment benefits and Medicare physician payment rates through the end of the year. The president is expected to sign the bill into law.

Sen. Ron Wyden voted YES......
Sen. Jeff Merkley voted YES......

The Democrats are all we have, period.

AND! The republicans in the house want big oil to FRAC and ruin your life giving water. Not the Democrats!

Protecting Investment in Oil Shale the Next Generation of Environmental, Energy, and Resource Security Act - Vote Passed (237-187, 10 Not Voting)

The House passed the first part of the surface transportation authorization bill, which has been divided into three parts. This part deals with energy and would use oil and gas revenue to fund transportation projects.

Rep. Peter DeFazio voted NO

AND! The republicans continue to defund Social Security to end our safty net! Not the Democrats!

Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act - Vote Passed (293-132, 8 Not Voting)

The House passed this agreement to extend the Social Security payroll tax rate cut, which was reduced from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent last year, through the end of 2012. The bill also extends certain unemployment benefits and Medicare physician payment rates through the end of the year. The Senate passed the bill a short time later, clearing it for the president's signature.

Rep. Peter DeFazio voted NO

Don't listen to Paul/Pindy. Don't note this hateful crap. Just hit the not worthy button.

,!.. Paul
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 23, 2012, 9:38 am
I love killing Paul's hateful threads. lol

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The GOP must DIE!!!
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Saturday February 25, 2012, 2:19 pm

Obama = Saul Alinsky + George Soros = Radical Treason + 1% Rich Elite = NO 99%!!!

Think About It.
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Saturday February 25, 2012, 2:27 pm

Jason; Obama is NO BETTER than the GOP!!!

There is far more existing news and information that confirms President Obama as being nothing more than a below-average Chicago politician, who is desperately groping in the dark for any clear direction that would insure His 2012 re-election ...

And nothing more.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 26, 2012, 8:57 am
Lol Obama is WAY better than the fascist GOP! You just don't know why. You never will because you don't want to. When it comes to the two parties, I choose the one trying to rebuild america, not the ones that want to continue the bush policies...Duh! "Corporations ARE people, my friend". What part of that don't you get?

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Past Member (0)
Sunday February 26, 2012, 10:24 am
Dear Jason:

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Ask yourself, who had the guts to document what the Bush tax breaks for the rich are worth each year for Rush Limbaugh ($2,689,135), Glenn Beck ($1,512,352) , Sean Hannity ($1,006,352), Bill O’Reilly ($914,352), Sarah Palin ($638,352), Newt Gingrich ($247,352) and George W. Bush himself ($187,552)? That was Alan Grayson.

Ask yourself, which public figure collected over 100,000 signatures on a petition to oppose any and all cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits, and then personally delivered that petition to the White House? That was Alan Grayson.

Ask yourself, which House candidate, understanding how fed up we all are with lobbyists and PACs and $5000 checks, has turned to ordinary people to support his campaign, and as a result has received contributions from more people in the last six month than any House challenger in the entire country, and more than 434 out of 435 current members of the House? That was Alan Grayson.

Alan Grayson, winner of the Zeitgeist Award for 2011. He says the things that we are all thinking, but no one else is saying. He focuses on what really matters. He speaks for all of us.
 

PinkMindy Ellinwood (567)
Monday February 27, 2012, 12:11 pm

President Obama and his Chicago cronies are succeeding in controlling some public awareness through a 1% Rich Elite power-leverage and weights it upon a good portion of most media outlets! ...

But NOT All.

Pro-Obama camp believers 'choose' to believe in an endless ethereal pipe-dream of 'Hope & Change', however that is your right to believe so.

 

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Past Member (0)
Friday March 2, 2012, 10:08 pm
The fox effect...Bingo, Paul.
 
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