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Religious Leaders Call on Congress to Reevaulate Military Aid to Israel


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Abdessala
- 650 days ago - jta.org
As Christian leaders in the United States, it is our moral responsibility to question the continuation of unconditional U.S. financial assistance to the government of Israel.



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Roger M. (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:40 am
Dear Americans,

We don't even begin to understand why you give such vast sums of money to Israel when there's so much need elsewhere in the world, not least in your own country.

Best wishes

Everyone Else
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (118)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:00 am
Thank you Sir Abdessalam and Roger M.

This will probably interest the American population in terms of constutional rights vs. Police State:

Police shootings OF UNARMED CITIZENS have gone up 500% since Bush let Chertoff authorize police training by Israelis
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (118)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:04 am

oh, yeah, November approaching, the GOP race is almost completed, elections imminent.

Maybe this might be a hot topic in the U.S., when it comes to voting this election ?

Netanyahu and Olmert's Deep Secrets
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:15 am
Thanks Abdessalam for this important post! Also thx to Parsifal, will get to your links a bit later on.
I welcome that action and letter, couldn't agree more! And as oppoded to some comments there, I think the timing was JUST RIGHT. Any other time Congress would not listen anyways, never has.
From the article:
Rabbi Noam Marans, AJC director of Interreligious and Intergroup Relations:"“When the world currently is focused on the Iranian nuclear threat to the entire Middle East and the world, Christian leaders have chosen to mount another political attack on Israel,”
Does this rabbi know just HOW WRONG he is? The world is NOT focused on any IRANIAN NUCLEAR THREAT but rather on the threat by ISRAEL acting completely irresponsibly with the ongoing warmongering!
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:17 am
And this from the comments-for those who did not read it!:
Eileen Fleming • 6 days ago

"Sometimes it takes a good friend to tell you when enough is enough. As
they did with South Africa two decades ago, concerned citizens across
the US can make a difference by encouraging Washington to get the
message to Israel that this cannot continue. If Americans truly are our
friends, they should shake us up and take away the keys, because right
now we are driving drunk, and without this wake-up call, we will soon
find ourselves in the ditch of an undemocratic, doomed state."-Jonathan
Ben Artzi, nephew of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who spent
eighteen months in jail as a conscientious objector against the
Israeli Occupation of Palestine because he refused to serve in the IDF .
 

Kit B. (277)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:18 am

When any government has access to so much money that it can and does buy ever more arms, it does lead to war. We bear a responsibility in those wars, we (the US) has aided by giving the arms or assisting in the purchase of those arms. We must re-think this policy for own future and even for the future of Israel. If one is concerned about Israel, then promote peace, let the International community pressure both sides of the conflict to find a way to peace. I'm not suggesting it would be easy, or that things would change quickly, but given leaders with a vision for the future, peace can be found.
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (118)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:33 am


Because people here like to sign petitions, (and before I forget) - this one is viral - apparently a question of plain survival ...

Tell Obama: War with Iran is not a "Pro-Israel" Litmus Test
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:42 am
.Thx Parsifal, both nothing new at all to me. In fact there was a NYT( I think) article some time ago speaking about this friendship and what close buddies Bibi and Mitten are. I have also posted about this in other comments before. Same with the police brutality. Only with that I had simply made a guess not knowing the facts behind it.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:43 am
Was about to pos,t glad you did Abdessallam..

It's time people of reason, especially people of faith, took a strong stand against what the Government of Israel is doing with American tax dollars and the weapons "We" sell them in exchange for American tax dollars. Talk about laundering money... !

American politicians had better get their act together as well. Gr$$d is a hard nut to crack..The disease of gr$$d gets you where your soul "Dare" not go..

http://fcnl.org/images/issues/Military_aid_to_Israel_Oct_1_Final.pdf

"Dear Member of Congress,

We write to you as Christian leaders representing U.S. churches and religious organizations committed to seeking a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians. Our organizations have been deeply involved in this pursuit for decades, inspired by the call and promise of Jesus Christ who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."

In response to our Christian call to be peacemakers, we have worked for decades to support both Israelis and Palestinians in their desire to live in peace and well-being. We have worked alongside our Palestinian Christian sisters and brothers to help build a peaceful and resilient Palestinian civil society by supporting hospitals, schools, clinics, and social service agencies. These ministries include cooperative efforts with Israelis and Palestinians as well as with Jews, Muslims, and other neighbors here in the United States. Through our presence in the region, and regular visits to our partners there, we see first-hand the impacts of the conflict on both Palestinians and Israelis and hear from them directly about the reality of their lives.

Through this direct experience we have witnessed the pain and suffering of Israelis as a result of Palestinian actions and of Palestinians as a result of Israeli actions. " More at link...above..

Religious leaders call on U.S. Congress to rethink military aid to Israel
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/religious-leaders-call-on-u-s-congress-to-rethink-military-aid-to-israel.premium-1.468931
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:46 am
Kit: "We must re-think this policy for own future and even for the future of Israel." -Could you make that PRESENT instead of/ in addition to future, please?!
 

Barbara W. (342)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 10:02 am
Charity and good will begins at home Democrats and Republicans. "WE" are not spreading good will throughout the world but certain American's slant on democracy, which is terrorism!

It's time that the world's people had a shot at good government so the world has a chance to heal all that has been done to her.

No more polluting the water. air. land nor minds of the people "America". We are in short supply of positive energy among the worlds leaders. They have fouled everything they touch with minds motivated by insatiable mindless gr$$d.

The planet and the creator of this beautiful earth demands that "We" all wake up and do our part to end hate and despair. And begin building community, equality and compassion. America has a constitution that teaches US what "We" must do.

Time to act! Time to put "Childish Things Away" and become brothers and sisters on a common quest, working together.

I have always believed, "When Dreams Die, So Goes Greatness! Dare To Dream and move forward for a better tomorrow..
 

ParsifalOFFLINE S. (118)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 11:08 am

Yeah Angelika, how about this ?

Former IDF soldiers say abuse of Palestinian children is "routine"
 

Angelika R. (146)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:38 pm
I already read this in summer. We all know that ANY VOICES rightfully condemning Israeli criminal actions will always be silenced with some meagre excuses in the least. I am waiting to see the day when Israeli leaderhip faces The Hague,- in fact wish it was him today instead of Goran Hadzic.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:41 pm
I am sure all Islamist religious leaders care about Americans a lot. I am only surpized, why they look at US Aid to Israel of $3B/year, and not to US Aid to Islamic states - of 30B a year.

"We don't even begin to understand why you give such vast sums of money to Islamic states when there's so much need elsewhere in the world, not least in your own country. "

At least, Israelis do not rape and behead our ambassador, do not blow up our building, do not kill our troops and provide lots of good services. Egyptian Morsi, when coming here to get more cash from Obama, was giving US advises on how to live life better.

Abdessalam, where do you find such nonsense articles? BTW, what do you think about US Aid to Egypt, which is completely unnecessary as nobody wants to attack Egypt?


 

Henriette Matthijssen (143)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 1:41 pm
Keep the money on US soil to help your people, stop supporting evil with actions to destroy the world! Thanks Abdessalam.
 

monka blanke (74)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 1:48 pm
The U.S. should stop to support Israel, it's a shame and they could do much better things with that money, don't hand it out to Israel !!
thanks Abdessalam for the post.
 

Dany Strakova (119)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:04 pm
Thanks Henriette for sharing and Abdessalam for the post!
 

Nancy C. (797)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 4:14 pm
Thank you Abdessalam. The "unconditional" aspect of the $$ strikes a chord and needs review and conditions...Oh how many starving American families could have a few years of nutrition while parents are finding or creating a job...
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:35 pm
We need to get our priorities in order in many ways and with many things in this Country. I don't want any more money going to support wars, no matter where they are. Why are we still in Afghanistan? We were told it was to get Bin Laden, well, according to the President we got him. Instead of troops, wouldn't it be far better to help build schools? Wasn't that young girl who was shot in the head trying to say the same thing?

Why do we need to send all this money to Israel, are they not a fairly well to do Country? Can they not support for themselves their own military efforts be they good bad or indifferent. Why are we needed, we have enough going to our own misadventures. If they are having a problem with funding their military, why is it our obligation? If they can not fund their military then why don't they change policy and try to be more friendly and maybe people around them wouldn't try to fight them so much. When we have as Nancy said, hungry families in the USA, why are we sending money anywhere?

Look, if someone needs help with obtaining water, medicines, food, that is one thing, but not to finance more wars. I am so tired of year after year knowing our American Indians live with 80% unemployment, lacking medical clinics, Elders are freezing in their homes, another generation of children growing up without hope so the suicide rate is above the National average and the average life expectancy at Pine Ridge is 48 years old.

Why are we sending money to Israel, on continued wars, or anywhere else for that matter when we have our First Nations people still in conditions that are on par or worse than Haiti? In non native communities, some inner cities children are showing up at the hospital showing signs of starvation, we have people in rural communities that do not have access to medical care, no matter how basic the care. Our bridges are falling into the rivers, some towns can't keep their street lights on anymore, others are tearing up their roads for the pot holes are too many and they have no monies for repairs so they are going back to dirt. Our teachers are being laid off, Fire Houses being closed and the list is endless to the needs in this Country.

Americans......until we can take care of our own backyard why are we sticking our nose into everyone elses yard?

As far as I'm concerned I've turned my back on BOTH of these war mongering Parties. These two Parties that are beholden to the scams of Wall Street, the bowing to the Banksters. I'm tired of begging, writing, signing petitions to two Parties be they wave the red flag or the blue flag and they do the same thing year after year. Our policies in many areas stink, from the environment, our energy policy to the topic of this thread.
Vote Rocky Anderson Foreign Policy
 

Michela m. (3813)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:58 pm
I AM AGAINST WHATEVER KIND OF WAR!!!!!!!!

ABOVE ALL BECAUSE WHATEVER KIND OF WAR IS DONE FOR ECONOMIC PURPOSES.......

MONEY, OIL PLANTS, ARMAMENT & WEAPONS PRODUCING LOBBIES, ECONOMICAL POWER, etc etc
 

Kathleen B. (37)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 10:36 pm
Although I consider this a baby step, I'm pleased that it is going in the correct direction. Israel routinely flouts international and humanitarian laws. I've been waiting for the various church leaders to make a moral statement on the racist Israeli policies.
As long as the USA has homeless war veterans begging for spare change, standing in lines at soup kitchens and standing in lines, hoping for a cot on a freezing winter night, I think most foreign aid should be curtailed.
And tho I am anti-war, our nation has asked these men & women to risk their lives and now refuse to support those who suffer from amputations, brain trauma, PTSD, and other unidentified maladies from depleted uranium.
Israel has a high standard of living for Jews, not so good for the indigenous Palestinian Christians, Muslims and Jews, as many are aware of after the Mitt Romney debacle.
I vigorously support the BDS movement.
 

Pat A. (117)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 12:59 am
Thanks Abedessalam - stars to you, Dandelion, Michela, Nancy, Angelika and others (sorry Kit you deserved a star but the computer won't let me yet) - a very good letter, and about time.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:12 am
Bob A.
Welcome to this story.
1 - Talking about $30 B aid to Islamic states is an allegation you failed several times to prove besides Islamic countries are not occupying any other people's land like Israel has been doing at least for the last 47 years.

2 - The death of US diplomats in Libya was a STUPID REACTION to anti Islam hate speech.You can attack Muslims and call this freedom of expression but DARE you attack Jews ? If you attack Jews,You lose your right of freedom of expression and may be sued as an anti semitic . WHAT A DIFFERENCE !!!!!

3 - US military aid to Egypt is spent in USA and a part of it is something like 'Samples of weapons,or weapons spare parts " given to the buyer (Egypt) to promote US arms sales to Egypt.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:23 am
Bob A. wrote " Abdessalam, where do you find such nonsense articles?"

This question shows clearly that you didn't visit the web. The is a green box on the right side where you can read (if you want to read). If you click it,it will take you to the site and you would have known that I found this article(which you describe as nonsense without reading it) was published by JTA , The Global News Service of the Jewish People.
Did you see how easy it is? You don't need to be smart to get to this article.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:42 am
Thank you Angelika for shedding the light on comments we might have missed. These are few other comment.

1 - Manuel Laboriante • 8 days ago −

The JCPA is not being truthful. US aid to Israel is, in fact, unconditional. The US gives Israel billions in aid and is the only nation that defends Israel against adverse resolutions by the UN. All the US gets in return are belligerent and rude refusals to take any steps that the US recommends for the peace process, like a moratorium on settlements or using the pre-1967 Israel borders as starting point for negotiations. (Israel has the audacity to compare its pre-1967 borders to Auschwitz and states defiantly that it will never, ever return to those borders.) Now Israel wants the US to go to war with Iran for Israel's benefit. Israel doesn't want the US to be its friend; it wants the US to be its slave. If any other country treated the US and its President the way Israel has recently, Americans would demand that relations be severed completely.

2 - Eileen Fleming • 7 days ago • parent −
RE: 'slave' George Washington warned US in his Farewell Address
"Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony
with all...and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another a habitual hatred or a habitual fondness is in some degree a slave...a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils."

3 - sidjames • 8 days ago −
Trying to reason with the Israel can do no wrong crowd is imposible. Israel illegally violated the conditions of aid by using it's US donated weapons for non-defensive uses, IE: attacking Lebanon, Syria as outlined by Jimmy Carter in his letter to the NY Times some time ago calling for it's end. No matter how egregious and overt the Israel lobby's -behavior shaking down our government, blackmailing/bribing our politicos, it is defended by Jews with a regard for the truth equal to Gerry Sandusky and his professions of categorical innocence. Read the text of the recent unanimously (except for Rep Ron Paul) passed bill H.R.4133 United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act. it's a ransom note full of demands posing as US legislation ( I understand the original draft was written in Hebrew). Don't defend flagrant wrong just because it's committed by fellow Jews. Accept peace from the Arabs, be willing accept 3/4 of a stolen loaf. Continuing the illegal occupation of the West Bank is -Stealing, lying about it is -bearing false witness, and -murder is murder, so don't look to the Torah for protection with that kind of commandment breakage, God ain't a schmuck.

3 - sidjames • 8 days ago −
Trying to reason with the Israel can do no wrong crowd is impossible. Israel illegally violated the conditions of aid by using it's US donated weapons for non-defensive uses, IE: attacking Lebanon, Syria as outlined by Jimmy Carter in his letter to the NY Times some time ago calling for it's end. No matter how egregious and overt the Israel lobby's -behavior shaking down our government, blackmailing/bribing our politicos, it is defended by Jews with a regard for the truth equal to Gerry Sandusky and his professions of categorical innocence. Read the text of the recent unanimously (except for Rep Ron Paul) passed bill H.R.4133 United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act. it's a ransom note full of demands posing as US legislation ( I understand the original draft was written in Hebrew). Don't defend flagrant wrong just because it's committed by fellow Jews. Accept peace from the Arabs, be willing accept 3/4 of a stolen loaf. Continuing the illegal occupation of the West Bank is -Stealing, lying about it is -bearing false witness, and -murder is murder, so don't look to the Torah for protection with that kind of commandment breakage, God ain't a schmuck.


 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:45 am
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You can't currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:46 am
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Parsifal Rain because you have done so within the last week.
 

Barbara W. (342)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 1:57 pm
Important related info: Rabbinical Support for the End of Unconditional Military Aid to

Israel http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3471213

The Jewish-Muslim Community Building Initiative

http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3470765
 

Kathleen B. (37)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 6:33 pm
Please understand that the vast amounts of money gifted to Israel allow the zionists to keep the occupation on-going. They fund the colonial land usurpers in the West Bank (which they're trying to rebrand as Judea & Samaria), with access Jews only roads, electricity and water, while ignoring their obligations as occupiers to provide the same for Palestinians (who they wish to rebrand as Arabs or terrorists.)
I
srael claims the apatheid wall is to protect them from suicide bombers, all the while threatening the entire world with the evil Samson Option, modeled after their heroes at Masada. They promise if they feel the end is near that they will destroy the world and commit suicide.
The zionist project has failed, it remains to be seen how much more blood will be shed before they accept the inevitable, which is probably the Sampson Option.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Wednesday October 24, 2012, 6:42 am
Take Action: Support Church Leaders’ Call to Investigate Israel’s Violations of U.S. Law
October 23, 2012

Earlier this month, 15 prominent church leaders sent Members of Congress an historic letter in which they decried “widespread Israeli human rights violations committed against Palestinians.”


The church leaders wrote that “unconditional U.S. military assistance to Israel has contributed to this deterioration, sustaining the conflict and undermining the long-term security interests of both Israelis and Palestinians."

We fully support their call for “an immediate investigation into possible violations by Israel of the U.S. Foreign Assistance Act and the U.S. Arms Export Control Act” and for the “withholding of military aid for non-compliance” with these laws.

This letter is huge—our demand for accountability for Israel’s misuse of U.S. weapons is now going mainstream!

Whether or not you identify with one of the denominations whose leaders signed this letter, please take a moment right now to thank the church leaders for their important letter to Congress.

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/641/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=11802
 
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