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Video: If Our Drones Are So Accurate, Why Do Their Missiles Keep Hitting Children?


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JL
- 586 days ago - upworthy.com
Despite repeated claims from both the Bush and Obama administrations that missile attacks from unmanned drones provide a surgically precise means of eliminating suspected terrorists, U.S. drone policy has led to the deaths of at least 178 children



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JL A. (272)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 4:36 pm

If Our Drones Are So Accurate, Why Do Their Missiles Keep Hitting Children?

Despite repeated claims from both the Bush and Obama administrations that missile attacks from unmanned drones provide a surgically precise means of eliminating suspected terrorists, U.S. drone policy has led to the deaths of at least 178 children in Pakistan and Yemen (the U.S. is officially at war with neither) as of December 2, 2012. While one hellfire missile is obviously preferable to leveling an entire block with a bombing run, one has to wonder how effective a campaign like this really is in curtailing terrorist activity. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that the friends and families of those 178 children are probably more sympathetic to anti-U.S. propaganda now rather than before the U.S. started dropping missiles on their loved ones.
Mansur Gidfar
ORIGINAL: By Brave New Foundation. You can read the fully sourced report on the effects of drone strikes on children here.
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 5:17 pm

Surgical strikes, now honestly when have we ever had that? We used bombs to intentionally kill civilians, and now we use drones. Signed petition and shared on FB and tweeted.
 

JL A. (272)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 5:39 pm
PR garbage does muddy the waters Kit. Thanks for sharing! You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week.
 

Michael Kirkby (83)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 5:45 pm
Let's not forget that these guys being hunted place their compounds among civilians. It is SOP for them to place mortar and artillery batteries on top of schools and civilian buildings or next to mosques. Civilians are considered expendable assets and if civilians are killed by drone strikes all the more so as it provides a great international sound bite. Sun Tzu said know your enemy and that is what we need to do. Drone strikes like bombs and IEDs are going to kill civilians just as friendly fire kills our troops and has done so ever since projectiles were invented. There is no perfect system and unfortunately it is the citizens who suffer; making them all the more susceptible to the terrorist's doctrine. Of course if you add everything up maybe it's all part of a deliberate plan to gear up for WW3. JMO
 

JL A. (272)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 6:23 pm
Excellent analysis Michael. You cannot currently send a star to Michael because you have done so within the last week.
 

mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 6:46 pm
Why?
Maybe because the perpetrators ((very similar in this reagrd to the I''D''F with their ultra-high-precision, top-of-the-line weaponry)) (think they) can get away with it and they don't give a damn about committing a few collateral murders ?
 

Jim Phillips (3215)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 7:13 pm
It's Time to Challenge the Propaganda Regarding Who is Killed by U. S. Drones
"The public would not be accepting of drones, if they knew how kill decisions are made, and how many innocents are killed in the process."-- Robert Greenwald, Brave New Films

http://www.alternet.org/world/its-time-challenge-propaganda-regarding-who-killed-u-s-drones?akid=9745.100370.eY_MvK&rd=1&src=newsletter754008&t=3
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Here are examples of "high" costs: The Drone.

Child Casualties As a Result of U.S. Drone Strikes

Video from bravenewfoundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8bnYF-WxE&feature=player_embedded
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Living Under Drones

Video from bravenewfoundation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yMOzvmgVhc

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ó the cost, per drone, of 10 MQ-9 Reaper unmanned aircraft the Air Force announced Monday that it is buying. Drones are a lot of things, but cheap ainít necessarily one of them.

$12,548,710.60 This is 12 and a 1/2 million dollars.

Read more: http://nation.time.com/2012/11/06/12548710-60/#ixzz2EhpYrXT8
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Lastly, collateral damage is factored in and yes, civilians and children are considered expendable assets. Yes, suspected terrorists use schools, public buildings, children and civilians for their compounds. The terrorists don't care who gets hurt, killed for promoting their own agenda.

There is one other factor, the friends and relatives of those killed during these "surgical" attacks by the drones will grow up with hatred against the US. More "future" terrorists and enemies...

Ty, JL.
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JL A. (272)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 7:46 pm
Thanks so much for providing all the additional relevant information Jim! You cannot currently send a star to Jim because you have done so within the last week.
 

Lin Penrose (92)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 8:05 pm
Noted & thanks J.L.A. Pres. Obama is probably not programming the drones. Other persons in our U.S.A "Defense Military" operations are. They should be drawn from their positions and replaced with those who are much more accurate with those deadly weapons and logical thinking processes needed for delicate surgery. Weapons that had no business (that we civilians of any countries know of) being in areas we are not at (that we civilians know of) war with - yet. Messing around with Pakistan is very unstable messing, considering the weapons that Pakistan has and their social consciousness & history.. Would the U.S.A put up with type of civilian "collateral damage"? I think not.
 

Jim Phillips (3215)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 8:16 pm
Just you may or may not know...

Pakistan has about 100 +/- nuclear warheads... Gives you a bit of pause...

Ty, JL.
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JL A. (272)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 8:25 pm
Thanks for the specific option to alter results, the reminders about Pakistan and the excellent question Lin. Thanks Jim for adding the details on the weapons Lin mentioned.
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Yulan Lawson (156)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 1:31 pm
Good point, it's discusting what we do to each other.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (274)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 1:37 pm
I HATE DRONES AND WAR
 

Faye Swan (23)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 1:38 pm
I agree with Michael as well - green star sent on your behalf as well, JLA.
 

Jaime A. (32)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 1:59 pm
Noted.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 2:39 pm
Who said drones were 'surgically precise'? I'd like to see where Obama said that.
So should or shouldn't the U.S. go after terrorists? What are all the theories and opinions and 'facts' about that? And do drones cut down on U.S. army casualties? Who knows. What an endless ring around the rosie most of this stuff is.
 

JL A. (272)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:59 pm
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Thanks for sending Michael a star Faye!
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Kenneth I think the gamelike element you mention is the result of 'public relations-speak' and texts that began in one administration that the new one hesitated to dispute. Plain speaking might serve us all better. In answer to your question, definition of casualties becomes important--how many retaliatory attacks were in response to drone attacks? Do such indirect casualties count or does one only count as a component of the drone attack itself?
 
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