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Video: Gun Expert Decides To Make Stuff Up. Reporter Decides To Shut Him Down.


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JL
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John Lott is a scholar at the University of Maryland. He has a history of dishonesty (see below video) despite his impressive resume. He uses logical fallacies and arbitrary data points to justify eliminating most gun laws.



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JL A. (272)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 5:52 pm

Gun Expert Decides To Make Stuff Up. Reporter Decides To Shut Him Down.

John Lott is a scholar at the University of Maryland. He has a history of dishonesty (see below video) despite his impressive resume. He uses logical fallacies and arbitrary data points to justify eliminating most gun laws. His theory is that all the killers from Oregon, to Columbine, to Aurora, to Newtown specifically chose their targets based on what local gun laws are so that no one else would have a gun to shoot back. Ergo, eliminate all carry laws and bans, thereby making sociopathic murderers think twice, knowing everyone could be armed.

Thankfully, Soledad wasn't having it. And the result is very satisfying.
Adam Mordecai

At 1:20, Soledad has already had enough and challenges him. At 2:23, Soledad says no again. At 3:36, she's so baffled, she just ignores his really invalid points and goes back to actually trying to make him do basic math. At 4:58, she continues to pummel him with reason. And at 7:15, Soledad shuts that whole thing down.
FYI: When John Lott says at 5:45 that an AR-15 is basically just a prettied up hunting rifle, he's doing what we call in the biz "not being honest at all." Before I wrote this piece, I called my redneck, backwoods-Kentucky, gun-loving, hunting fan of a brother-in-law (his words, not mine) to make sure I had the facts right. According to him, an AR-15 is the civilian M-16, a weapon for killing, whereas most hunting rifles hold three or four bullets in a clip and are slower to fire. Because deer hunting requires a little more nuance and skill. We may try some target practice when I go there for Christmas.

Additionally, he argues in more than one interview that the Columbine killers chose the school as a target because it was a gun free zone, thereby allowing them to kill without getting shot at. However, one of the killers, Eric Harris said during the attack, "Let's go kill some cops" which invalidates his entire thesis, what with police being armed and whatnot.

You should also know that John Lott used to create fake internet commenters to defend himself back in the day. So that's fun. And should be reason enough for you to share this.

Lastly, you should also go to Soledad's Facebook page and let her know you appreciate her doing her job so well.

ORIGINAL: By Soledad O'Brien. Found on ThinkProgress.
 

Vicky P. (462)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 6:43 pm
haha good
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 7:33 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Vicky because you have done so within the last week.
 

Roseann D. (178)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 8:09 pm
At least every time they open their mouths, they make their case worse for themselves. We definitely don't want these whackos walking around with firearms.
 

David C. (29)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 10:42 pm
The facts about the AR-15...........

The M16 (officially Rifle, Caliber 5.56 mm, M16) is the United States military designation for the AR-15 rifle adapted for semi-automatic, three-round burst and full-automatic fire. Colt purchased the rights to the AR-15 from ArmaLite, and currently uses that designation only for semi-automatic versions of the rifle

The AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56 mm, magazine-fed, semi-automatic rifle, with a rotating-lock bolt, actuated by direct impingement gas operation or long/short stroke piston operation. It is manufactured with the extensive use of aluminum alloys and synthetic materials.

The AR-15 was first built by ArmaLite as a selective fire rifle for the United States armed forces. Because of financial problems, ArmaLite sold the AR-15 design to Colt. The select-fire AR-15 entered the US military system as the M16 rifle. Colt then marketed the Colt AR-15 as a semi-automatic version of the M16 rifle for civilian sales in 1963. Although the name "AR-15" remains a Colt registered trademark, variants of the firearm are independently made, modified and sold under various names by multiple manufacturers.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 10:56 pm
Thank you David for providing the history of the AR-15 and its relationship to the M-16 which should settle the question of whether it is a military grade weapon for all concerned about the facts for deciding.
 

John B. (215)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 11:02 pm
Thanks J.L. for the post and the link to the video. The audio was very bad but didn't detract from the interview. Mr. Lott made no sense with any of his points even when Soledad pointed out the inconsistency of the supposed facts he presented. Read, viewed and noted.
 

JL A. (272)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 11:07 pm
You are welcome John. Sorry about the quality of the audio you experienced. Thanks for providing the "bottom line" you gleaned from the video for those who might not be able to view it due to slow web connections, etc. You cannot currently send a star to John because you have done so within the last week.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 2:08 am
What a Moron Thanks J.L.A
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 7:03 am
I am tired of idiots with guns.
 

JL A. (272)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 7:50 am
You cannot currently send a star to Rose because you have done so within the last week.
You cannot currently send a star to Gloria because you have done so within the last week.
 

paula eaton (30)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 9:35 am
If he has a history of dishonesty then why interview him. Do not give him any airtime.
 

JL A. (272)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 10:54 am
A valid perspective Paula--perhaps he's the "best" expert representing that perspective at all?
 

Kit B. (277)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 11:49 am

Silly man, there are many actual experts that know guns and rifles, a bluff may work in the short run but in the world of the Internet everyone can be a fact checker
 

JL A. (272)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 12:10 pm
Quite true Kit! You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week.
 
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