Saturday May 23, 2009, 1:21 pm
"They're avoiding a court order, which is against the law, so they shouldn't do that," Best told ABC's "Good Morning America." "But it's also a mother who's looking out for her family. You know, somewhere in between there's an answer."

Best eventually returned home where authorities allowed him to pursue his choice of alternative treatments.

"I ran away because I believe the chemo was poisoning me and it would kill me before it cured me," said Best.

Read more at site..

Saturday May 23, 2009, 1:31 pm
Even Best, who had five chemo treatments before turning to alternative medicines, admits the painful therapy was working. But he said the case is about religious freedom, not science.

“It’s just sad. Even if (the cure rate) is 100 percent, they shouldn’t be able to force it on you. It seems like these are basic human freedoms and things we shouldn’t still be fighting for."


He did not survive without chemo..because he did have it..and as the statement above shows it isn't about what works or not but rather over some stupid freedom in religion..

I hope they find the young boy..

Saturday May 23, 2009, 7:48 pm
that amazing and hard to swollow you can shots i think instead

Sunday May 24, 2009, 2:15 am
At the risk of splitting hairs, like he said, he had some treatments that were working , beofre he went the alternative route and he was 16, not 13.

Sunday May 24, 2009, 3:32 am
Thanks and noted and I am always for the choice to use alternative methods!

Sunday May 24, 2009, 4:50 am
Exactly.. I agree Chrissy..It very well could have been the chemo he received that made the difference..and yes..also he was older and in fact ran away on his own..He was not taken by a parent who refused to let him have chemo..

Daniels story is almost exact to the story of Tryrell Dueck..also 13 years old..diagnosed with osteo sarcoma..a form of bone cancer..
Mother refused chemo and amputation of the leg..and instead he underwent alternative treatments..Chemo and surgery was refused due to religious beliefs.. Just 5 or 6 weeks after his alternative treatments at the so called wonderful Tijuana clinic..in Mexico.. he passed away..

I just hope they find this boy and get him help..real help..Certainly alternative medicine compliments traditional..
But not in itself..and not every so called alternative "miracle" being sold out there works..

Sunday May 24, 2009, 8:53 am
I would really like to comment on this but rather not. I've seen the effects of chemo and I guess it is really up to the individual if they want to go through this process. As a fatalist, I do believe that when it is your time to go its your time to go no matter what kind of treatments you receive.

Sunday May 24, 2009, 10:41 am
it shouldbe left up to the individual that is going thru the treatment. I too believe When it's your time to go it's p to God.

Sunday May 24, 2009, 12:22 pm
The title of this is a misdirect given he did in fact have chemo.

Sunday May 24, 2009, 2:27 pm
kids die all the time when they follow doctor's orders. if the mother were going to sit back and do nothing, that would be different. pursuing alternatives might not be as safe a bet as chemo, but it's not nothing. i don't think authorities should step in unless a parent is intentionally doing harm or being negligent by ignoring the problem. we're all victims of our parents' bad choices, to some extent. this just happens to be a little more extreme than most.

Sunday May 24, 2009, 5:08 pm
"I RAN AWAY because I believe the chemo was poisoning me and it would kill me before it cured me, said Best."

Our immune system is key in keeping us healthy. There is no way we could survive without it.- much less recover from disease. Because chemotherapy destroys the immune system, it is safe to say that no one has ever been cured from cancer by undergoing chemotherapy. No wonder Best said he knew the chemo would kill him. And no wonder the oncologists themselves would never submit to it.
But even though the manufacturers of the chemotherapy poisons are aware of this, they continue to push chemo and radiation as treatments for cancer and have their reps disinforming and bribing oncologists to tell sick people they will die unless they submit to these destructive "therapies".
Chemotherapy poison sales are multi-billion dollar earners for Big Pharma. They would hate to loose this lucrative business. So instead of telling the truth, they do everything in their power to suppress it.
If this is not killing sick people for a profit - then what is?

Sunday May 24, 2009, 8:42 pm
Hmm my motherd died of cancer 7 years ago and chemo and radiotherapy didn't do much but at least we felt that we were doing something to fight the sickness... and she tried alternative medicine too but nothing actually worked. She died 1 year later she was diagnosed. But it should be the patient decission. Eventhough the patient is a child. It is controversial, anyways.

Monday May 25, 2009, 1:11 am
Lars, don't just dissect what you want to read ... how about

"Even Best, who had five chemo treatments before turning to alternative medicines, admits the painful therapy was working. But he said the case is about religious freedom, not science. "

Monday May 25, 2009, 2:52 am
I also had a cousin with cancer. They not only gave her chemo, they took her blook out, spinned it, filtered it and put it back in. Although it gave her a little bit of time, the cancer came back with a vengeance and killed her. She was miserble the whole time they were treating her too!

Chrissy, the chemo did not cure Billy even if treatments were "working."
For those that do not know what chemo is;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotherapy
What doctors don't tell you about chemo;
http://www.wddty.com/chemotherapy.html

Monday May 25, 2009, 2:53 am
Sorry about the typo. That is they took her blood out!

Monday May 25, 2009, 3:44 am
Marty..with all due respect..I have to disagree..first of all..Doctors do tell you just what it is..exact what the side effects are..they are very honest about it..and the questions you ask them..well they are more willing to tell you..

And as far as Billy best..well I also disagree..Having the chemo treatment he did have.by the time he opted out of it..even in his own words there was a great difference in his condition..And by the tests taken well before he began the alternative treatment..it had already improved..
So how you can say the chemo didn't help is just wrong..Maybe you in your own feeling think that chemo is bad..alternative is better..and that is your choice..and that's fine for you..But I will say until one is in that place..one cannot judge another..nor do you have a clue of what is best or what you would or wouldn't do..

You or anyone else..or even me.. cannot go by what another went through..or how they are effected even..as it has been explained..every cancer is different..every treatment is different..so much depends on how early it was detected..what stage it is..and so on..

I respect everyone's own choice..for themselves..however..most of those who say what they will or won't and even worse to say what someone else should or should do..is nothing more than one's own opinion..
Until you..personally..yourself are faced with having cancer..you do not know what you would do..

This also is about a 13 year old child who is under the thumb of his parents..and it is about religion..and again..I respect the right to everyone making a choice for THEMSELVES..but to put religion before your childs health..especially in a life or death situation is cruel..wrong and sick..

Monday May 25, 2009, 3:48 am
"kids die all the time when they follow doctor's orders. if the mother were going to sit back and do nothing, that would be different."

What an insane thing to say..show me the stats or proof you have on kids dying from following a doctors order..

This mother is doing nothing for her child..What she is doing is for herself..her religion..her beliefs..her fears..
And the fact that she is turning to some half ass clinic in Mexico or wherever.. is even more absurd..

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:01 am
I don't disagree with you Dee but I don't think all doctors are that honest. And I agree about the religion should not be the deciding factor. As far as billy, the chemo may have helped but it did not cure him is what I said. If it had cured him he would not have needed to pursue alternative treatment and he does have one of the cancers "they" say it can cure.

My main problem with making the kids take chemo is someone besides the parents are telling them what they can and can not do with their own children as far as health options. That is a dangerous "flag" for freedom in my book. Just as you know people can be cured with traditional medicine, I know they can also be cured with natural treatments.
I agree it is with our own learning that we form our own opinions and until someone is in that spot, they do not know for sure how they will handle it. Experience is a teacher with whatever experience path one takes.

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:12 am
How many people die each year from chemo?
Here is one answer;
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_die_each_year_from_chemotherapy
An HSI article food for thought;
http://hsibaltimore.com/2006/07/20/essential-tremor/
different chemo options;
http://hsibaltimore.com/2005/10/18/different-chemo-options/
Health care choices:
http://hsibaltimore.com/2002/11/06/healthcare-choices/
Don't forget just how much this cancer treatment costs and that not everyone can afford it even if they believe it will help!

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:20 am
There is no cure for cancer..not with traditional drugs or treatment..or alternative..not to date..not yet..Show me real proof..you can't because there is none..
Tumors will.. can.. and do shrink..or even become dormant..cancer can go into remission..but there is no cure as of yet..
Anyone who tells anyone otherwise is not telling the truth..

Cancer is treatable..there is some level of prevention in it..

As I said if this woman wanted to stand on top of a mountain and shout and pray to whatever God she chose to..And if she wanted to eat elephant dong and spin a hula hoop on herself..believing it would "cure" her..Go for it..I could care less what anyone chooses for themselves..so long as they are not harming another in that process..
And again that is my point she is not making the "best choice for her child..It is not based on education..knowledge..or sound information and certainly not on the medical tests..It is based on a "religion"
And that is wrong to do to this child..And I hope for the sake of this child that he is not to far gone to be helped..

As parents we don't have the freedom..thank goodness to be stupid and harm our children or withhold medical treatment for them..because of our choice to pay homage to any religion..To hell with her freedom..I am concerned about this child's freedom to live and to live healthy and well..Period..

There are places right here that do traditional/alternative..and many are living well today because of that..No not everyone survives..but that has nothing to do with either or choice of treatment..Neither one can cure..they can make you better..as I said remission..shrinkage..prevention..

Marty my friend..I hope you never have to take the path in cancer..

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:29 am
Dee, I do not believe people do not cure cancers without doctors. Yes I had a neighbor that cured hers using diet and herbs. I have also read about many people who have cured theirs without chemo or radiation and no I don't believe everything I read. But I do believe the tools necessary are on this Earth already. To each their own.
http://www.articlesbase.com/alternative-medicine-articles/cancer-can-be-cured-natural-herbal-remedies-460926.html

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:51 am
Animals in the wild rarely get cancer. Cancer is a disease of western civilisation. Where western civilisation went and took that diet those indigenous people started to get cancers too. White refined and deadly sums it up chemically sprayed and fertilised the fake sugars and now genetically modified food. All these unnatural things put a stress on the body to deal with them. They contain no value for the body and the body has to use up its resorces to deal with them leading to malnutrician and a body with a low immune system.

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:53 am
I think we all know we can search the web and find just about anything that will validate whatever stance we are choosing to take..

When I look at the ones who have died..and those that have survived..there are two very important factors to it..
First and foremost was early detection..second is treatment..Please let me be clear I am not at all against alternative..I myself have taken that path quite often along the way..but..I have also had traditional treatment as well..Am I cured..No..not from either one..I fight each and every day..I accept and do things that in my mind I never would have thought I would have ever agreed to do..but here I am doing it..and I am surviving it..

But I can also say I have never been foolish enough to search for an online website that promises me a cure..for none exits and that is a red flag..Sadly..so sadly..there are people who prey on the ill to make money..Cancer is a big business..for both traditional as well as alternative..

Most importantly..get a good oncologist..nutritionist..herbalist..and a good surgeon if need be..and do your homework..educate yourself..but not by some flim flam website or scam clinic that promises you a cure..
Chinese traditional medicine saved me after the chemo/radiation..It can take up to a year or more to rid your body of the toxins from chemo..And my doctors told me that..and upon their recommendation they sent me to a great herbalist..

Marty you are correct at how high the cost of cancer treatment is..but do you have any idea just how much money it cost to have some of the most simplest alternative treatments..
How about $50,000 for a 3 week treatment..and not covered at all by any insurance..So don't kid yourself thinking that it doesn't cost..it actually cost more..And that is a crying shame..not to mention..for that high cost.. that most of these clinics are a scam..

I have never had a doctor give me any false hope..and I'll tell you..as much as I love life..want to live..I don't ever want to be lied to..

Here is a bit about this great Mexican clinic..just one of many who scam people who are ill..

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3x_Questionable_Practices_In_Tijuana.asp?sitearea=ETO
Questionable Cancer Practices in Mexico

Description

Some practitioners of alternative medicine who treat cancer using unproven and unapproved therapies -- especially those who market their treatment as a "cure" -- have moved just across the Mexican border, where they are still able to attract US patients. Although there are certainly many legitimate cancer treatment centers in Mexico, many of these "border clinics" offer treatments that are unproven or simply don't work. Some also have offices in San Diego or other U.S. towns near the Mexican border. These offices are used as contact points to find U.S. patients, who are then referred to the actual clinics in Mexico. Specific information can be difficult to obtain because of secrecy requirements: in some cases the clinics are operating illegally in Mexico and are subject to closure by Mexican authorities if they are caught.

Cancer is a journey I wish on no one..and it is not a journey for the weak minded..One has to stay strong and above all educated in their own care and well- being..One must have hope but not ever be so depaaired that they fall prey to those who would take advantage of them..

There is no cure yet..one must accept that before they can even begin their journey..It is indeed the biggest fight you will ever be challenged with..Prepare yourself..educate yourself and have a good support system..
And though I pray..I am never foolish enough to think anyone is going to save me..but myself..

Monday May 25, 2009, 4:57 am
I understand Dee. Will put you in my prayers.

Monday May 25, 2009, 5:05 am
Dee, here is a website that might interest you anyway. They are not charging anything for viewing it.
http://www.cancertutor.com/

Monday May 25, 2009, 6:33 am
http://www.care2.com/news/member/681221234/1151145

Monday May 25, 2009, 7:46 am
((Thank you Marty)

Believe me..I have done my research on both traditional/alternative..My own personal journey began quite a few years ago..

Monday May 25, 2009, 9:09 am
"Believe me..I have done my research on both traditional/alternative."
No, Dee C, we don´t believe you've done your research. In fact, your own opinions prove you have not done any meaningful research at all. Your backward comments reflect your appalling ignorance on this entire subject.

Monday May 25, 2009, 3:26 pm

Dr. Keith Scott-Mumby is an articulate holistic physician with 37 years experience as an M.D. He is also a professor and a great teacher. If you are not yet a subscriber to his free newsletter, you should be. You will get lots of useful information from him. Here's an example. At the end is the information you need to sign up for his newsletter.

"Corruption In Cancer Research

Conflict of interest blocks out real scientific integrity in cancer research.

A study to be published June 15th 2009 in the journal Cancer has highlighted what is essentially corruption in the science of cancer research. It's called 'conflict of interest;' but you and I would call it corruption, bribery or malicious threats. Not nice words for a not nice phenomenon, which I've known about for years. Well, at least the industry is beginning to talk about it.

What it amounts to is that cancer researchers are likely to 'find' (or invent) favorable outcomes for research which is paid for by the major drug cartels. Many doctors engaged in research are on stipends from the very company which produces the product they are supposedly 'testing.' Some take secret bribes, of course, but then so do Congressmen!

Some investigators at major hospitals and medical schools have their salary paid, indirectly, via drug company funding to their hospital or laboratory post. Who has the guts to rock the boat when it pays the mortgage? Ridiculous idea, you say; responsible drug companies would never threaten the jobs of honest researchers. Well, if you are naïve enough to think that, wise up. Not only do drug companies threaten to get uncooperative (ie. honest and objective) scientists removed from their post--they actually do it.

This new up-to-date study puts some figures to the extent to which drug cartels bias what they laughingly call 'research.' As I am fond of saying, it's not research, but marketing strategies disguised as research.

The analysis, to be published in the June 15 issue of Cancer and headed by the University of Michigan, looked at more than 1,500 supposedly-scientific cancer studies published in eight authoritative journals, including Cancer, the New England Journal of Medicine and the Lancet.

Here's what they found:

** Randomized clinical trials that assessed patient survival were more likely to link a survival advantage to the medical treatment being studied when a conflict of interest was present.

** Apparent conflicts of interest (such as industry funding, consulting fees to authors and co- authorship by industry employees) found simply by reviewing the authorship credits were noted in 29% of studies, while 17% actually declared industry funding.

** Industry-funded studies focused on treatment in 62% of cases, whereas only 36% of studies done without industry funding focused on treatment.

** While almost half (47%) of studies done without industry funding looked at epidemiology, prevention, risk factors, screening or diagnostic methods, only one fifth of industry-funded studies looked at these areas.

Any guesses why the drug industry would slew research away from disease prevention? I'll bet you know."

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Monday May 25, 2009, 5:50 pm
"But I will say until one is in that place..one cannot judge another..nor do you have a clue of what is best or what you would or wouldn't do. You or anyone else..or even me.. cannot go by what another went through..or how they are effected even..as it has been explained..every cancer is different..every treatment is different..so much depends on how early it was detected..what stage it is..and so on..

I respect everyone's own choice..for themselves..however..most of those who say what they will or won't and even worse to say what someone else should or should do..is nothing more than one's own opinion..
Until you..personally..yourself are faced with having cancer..you do not know what you would do." bravo Dee!

Lars and Marty, I suspect that Dee has done a lot of research, as have I ... being a warrior against my esophageal cancer. neither alternative, nor traditional treatments can cure "cancer", as I have told people over and over again, "Cancer" is just an umbrella name for over 200 DIFFERENT diseases. So to say one treatment can "cure cancer" is just pure hogwash. My husband has his own battle with stage 4 kidney cancer (13 years and counting) and he didn't have the "benefit" of traditional medicine, other than surgery. there was no traditional chemo available for RCC when he was first dx. So other than having the main tumour removed (it had spread into his IVC (Inferior vena cava) and was just short of touching his heart) we were totally dependent on alternative methods. We improved our diet and lifestyle .... even though we followed very healthy before his dx and yet low and behold, it returned in his lung 7 years later, as a 6cm secondary and that too was removed surgically. Well, here we are again, 6 years after that and he has 2 secondaries in his lungs. Admittedly only 13mm and 15mm each, but they are there and of course during that time, I have been dx with esophageal cancer. having been living a great life, with supplements, mediation, massage and a whole lot more, including NO STRESS, what else could I have done to not get cancer? And what could jeff have done to not have his cancer return TWICE!?

I am actually both PISSED OFF AND OFFENDED that people who have NOT HAD ANY KIND OF CANCER get on there high horses and preach about what people should do. I hope and pray that none of you ever get to meet any of the cancer family, as then you will have to make a very big decision. I chose both surgery 9had no choice as I couldn't swallow) and chemo, along with my already complimentary treatments. 14 months out and I am still here, although the mean average survival for esophageal cancer with ALL treatments in only 5 years. Going totally alternative, rather than complimentary I would be dead, as I would have wasted away from lack of food.

Monday May 25, 2009, 7:35 pm

"I am actually both PISSED OFF AND OFFENDED that people who have NOT HAD ANY KIND OF CANCER get on there high horses and preach about what people should do. I hope and pray that none of you ever get to meet any of the cancer family,"
Your reaction is only to be expected, because you choose to remain under the misconception that cancer comes out of nowhere and attacks people for no reason at all. You need to realize no one contracts cancer by chance. And once you do your homework, you will understand that cancer is easily preventable and curable.
"14 months out and I am still here, although the mean average survival for esophageal cancer with ALL treatments in only 5 years." First, the sooner you realize you survived in spite of your chemo "therapy", not because of it - the better. Second, please keep constructive cancer therapies out of your statistics. The "mean average survival" might be five years for chemo and radiation "therapy" victims like yourself. The true figure is probably even shorter than that. I suggest you read the report "Corruption in cancer research" in my above post . That "research" ends up becoming the statistics you rely on - highly erroneous and totally misleading.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 1:50 am
Sorry Lars, but you're talking out of your arse as per normal. What the hell gives you the right to lecture me about my survival and how I "contracted" cancer? Might I ask what you would have done in my place? I know for a fact that you won't answer and we will be plagued with "cut and paste" articles. Go ahead, shock me with a REAL answer. The stats I am talking about are from my support group, where we keep a track of the lifes of our fellow warriors. These are real people, not "information' dragged up from the Internet.

"Your reaction is only to be expected, because you choose to remain under the misconception that cancer comes out of nowhere and attacks people for no reason at all. You need to realize no one contracts cancer by chance."

And you wonder why I said that I was PISSED and OFFENDED! Give me a clue as to how I managed to "catch" my cancer. Boy, this will be interesting.

Just had a thought. How did Linda McCartney "catch" cancer with her vegan lifestyle? Why is it that Inuits and Northern Russians aren't all wiped out. The nomads of the Russian steppes don't have vegetables EVER!

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 8:20 am
interesting debate, but the bottom line is, it's the individual's decision

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 10:57 am
http://www.care2.com/news/member/748310254/1152037

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 12:18 pm
"Breaking news: The Daniel Hauser family surrendered to law enforcement officials today. Watch NaturalNews for updates on this breaking news situation...

In the mean time, Daniel Hauser isn't the only teen who had to flee the law in order to save his own life from aggressive chemotherapy docotrs: Another young man named Billy Best also had to flee authorities fifteen years ago! And guess what? Today he's alive and thriving, living on superfoods, herbs and natural remedies! (So much for the myth that if they don't take chemo, they'll die, huh?)

Read that astounding story here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026329.html

(Contains a link to a video featuring Billy Best...)"


My comment; this young man they are chasing had one Chemo session, and after that the tumor GREW, so in my mind, if I were doing this, not him, I would conclude this is the wrong road and try something else... Ignoring reality has a risk.. I pity this family who is being subjected to harrassment, legal 'torture' from the state, the medical goon squad, and those who think taking away liberties is a good thing..

How about concentrating on the 200,000 that die each year from smoking, and the lung cancer associated with it? That is a fully loaded jumbo jet crashing every day, with no survivors.. What if terrorists did that to us? But it is OK for tobacco companies?

But now we have a family that is bothering no one, and not smoking up anyplace with toxic chemicals, and they want the right to do what they wish in their family... But no, that is not OK; we have to FORCE them to use a toxic chemical and subject the boy to toxic radiation... all because.... this is a free country.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 1:28 pm

Yes Eric, we're watching a new police state in the making. It's tragic that so few realize they might be the victims the next time. We see in this column the clueless and confused confirm that Big Pharma are really successful in their efforts to have us believe we will die if we dismiss disinformed and bribed oncologists' advice to undergo chemo and radiation.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 1:44 pm
I am so glad the young boy is back and will be cared for..Hopefully the Mother has come to her senses..and will now put her son's best interest above her own..

Update..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_forced_chemo
NEW ULM, Minn. – A 13-year-old cancer patient and his mother who spent a week on the run to avoid forced chemotherapy faced a court hearing Tuesday to determine the boy's medical fate. Daniel Hauser and his mother, Colleen, arrived back in Minnesota on a chartered jet early Monday after sparking a nationwide search. Brown County court officials said a custody hearing for Daniel was scheduled for 2:15 p.m. CDT.

Jennifer Keller, the California attorney who helped arrange the Hausers' return to Minnesota, said Colleen Hauser will continue to seek permission to use alternative treatments for her son's cancer "that aren't toxic."

"But she'll abide by what the court says," Keller said."

Thank goodness..I cannot imagine the stress that has been placed on this poor child being dragged around as he was and removing him from medical treatment..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 1:51 pm
Chrissy..sweetie..please just ignore the comment from Lars..we have dealt with him before..and it is like talking to a wall..He..as anyone is entitled to their own opinions..but as we have seen with some..they get nasty..rude and quite over-bearing..And yes what makes it worse is that they don't have a clue..I hope and pray they never do have to personally face cancer..but until and unless they do..all they can do is copy/paste from biased sights..and tell those with cancer what they should/shouldn't do..and whats best for them..

If it weren't so serious and so sad..it would be laughable..But again Chrissy..you just stay strong and it is best to try to ignore them..They will never understand..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 2:35 pm

"What the hell " and "talking out of your arse" are some of "sweet Chrissys" expressions. A sweet person indeed ! Abusive people such as her not only abuse others, but also themselves. Which means most of them lead highly unhealthy lives that certainly increase their risk of getting sick.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 2:44 pm
So Daniel had only one treatment of chemotherapy, he lost his hair, could hardly walk and his tumour grew hmm and they have dragged him back to court where his mum has to beg for him not to have any more? Im not convinced about chemotherapy at all in Daniels case. Seems like this toxic poisen is not doing Daniel any good at all I think most people could understand that were they not supporting the status quo which must be supported at all costs by those who profit from it. There is alot of corruption in high places and I dont think people realise how much.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 2:59 pm
Lars..after everything you have posted to Chrissy and I not only in this thread but others as well..you are lucky that is all she said..and she spoke quite well if I say so myself..Or is it that you think you should be the only one allowed to speak out..Chrissy is not abusive in anyway..but as many are I am sure sick to death of your copy and pasted posts..especially on a subject you truly know nothing about..other than that which you choose to select and read about..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 3:10 pm

By condoning Chrissys foul language you just prove you're in the same category yourself !

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 3:12 pm
Jeanette..Well seeing as you are not a doctor..more importantly his doctor..nor have you examined this young boy or know of his medical history..its safe to say that how would you know what is best for him..You wouldn't and could possibly know what is best for him..

He was already weak and sick..before the Chemo..losing hair is no bigger compared to losing your life..One round of chemo is hardly enough to do anything..which is why they do more with each treatment..

I won't bother to respond to the rest of your post as it really is sad and silly that so many are so against those that help..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 3:15 pm
Lars..if you are following Chrissy and I around in all of our news stories on this subject..just to "personally" harass us..well maybe its best that you don't dish out what you can't take it yourself..

"Which means most of them lead highly unhealthy lives that certainly increase their risk of getting sick."

Since when is defending oneself an unhealthy lifestyle..You are really grasping at straws on that one..Really..get a grip..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 3:50 pm
"Well seeing as you are not a doctor..more importantly his doctor..nor have you examined this young boy or know of his medical history..its safe to say that how would you know what is best for him..You wouldn't and could possibly know what is best for him."

Your reasoning makes no sense because your arguments applies to yourself more than to anyone else. You, least of all, are in a position to know what's best for this young person.

In fact, we know you don't care one bit for Daniel because you want to see him forcibly injected with poison. Daniel says he will bite and kick anyone who tries to inject him. Since you are one of the characters supporting his poisoning, you are certainly not a friend of Daniel.
Instead, your friends are the lying and cheating oncologists who are killing sick people for a profit.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 3:52 pm
I think its best dee if we stick to the case at hand and leave the personals out of this forum which distract us from the main issues.
:)ORDER!!!!

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 4:21 pm
Again Lars you are just being rediculous..

And Jeanette.. I am sticking to the news story and not being personal..however.. when I am addressed personally I certainly will reply..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 4:22 pm

IT IS IMPORTANT to know that the mere act of taking a child to a conventional cancer doctor is now, in practice, a "surrender" of your child to the State. Once you walk through the door of that cancer clinic, any disagreement with the advice of the cancer doctor will result in you being labeled a criminal, even while state employees kidnap your child and seek to have you jailed.

These are not exaggerations. They are accurate descriptions of precisely what has happened to the parents of Daniel Hauser, Katie Wernecke, Abraham Cherrix, Billy Best and many other children. In most of these cases, the parents had no choice but to become fugitives of the law in order to protect their children from syringe-toting cancer doctors armed with chemical poisons.
Conventional medicine, in a very real way, has become our enemy. By invoking "gunpoint medicine" and turning parents into criminals, the medical establishment now blatantly portrays itself as an oppressive, tyrannical institution that's far more threatening than any terrorist organization. These actions on the part of cancer doctors and Child Protective Services are arguably terrorist campaigns as they clearly terrorize families in an attempt to control them. It's a nightmare scenario. But it's reality.
Who´s the next victim?

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 4:23 pm
The Mother just spoke on the news and happy to report she is agreeing to allow Daniel to return to his treatment as originally planned..
Now I think we all should just send our positive thoughts and prayers out to this young man for his health and wellness..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 4:25 pm
Continuing with what I said as regards cancer being a western civilisation thing and where the western diet met indigenous tribes they gradually started to get cancer.

The renowned medical missionary, Dr. Albert Schweizer, wrote "on my arrival in Gabon in 1913, I was astonished to find no cases of cancer", over the years, cases began to appear in growing numbers, and he concluded "my observations incline me to attribute this to the fact that the natives are living more and more after the manner of the whites".

The celebrated anthropologist and Arctic explorer, Vilhjalmur Stefansson, in his book which was actually entitled, Cancer: Disease of Civilization?, noted the absence of cancer in the Eskimos upon his arrival in the Arctic, but a subsequent increase in the incidence of the disease as closer contact with white civilization was established

Sir Robert McCarrison, a physician who had studied 11,000 Hunza natives in Kashmir from 1904-1911. Cancer was unknown, and these individuals seemed to preserve their youthful physique and appearance well into their sixties and seventies, and to enjoy unusual longevity. McCarrison attributed this to the fact that they were "far removed from the refinement of civilization.....and endowed with a nervous system of notable stability"

there is a strong connection between the non refined diet of these people and cancer also they are not living the stressful life that is lived in the west. These people are not having to work hard to pay loans off or are heavily endebted. Think about how stressful it is to live in the western societies.

Also my feelings on the matter they are not going to the doctor every other week and being given antibiotics for every ailment which lowers the immune system. These tribes were also not having immunisations another assult. There food wasnt sprayed with fertilisers or pesticides (nerve gas in some cases) or eating meat filled with steroids (which lowers the immune system). They drink spring water usually and crops grown in nutrient rich soil. Any animal they eat is on a natural diet also.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 4:50 pm
I meant to say strong connection between refined food diet and cancer. Think of all the sythetic foods we eat foods filled with artificial additives and preservatives, antibitics, the toxic assult on our food is endless. Even our tap water is full of rat poisen and chlorines and we are probably drinking diluted medications and hormone tablets as there are traces of them in the water.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:12 pm
You may want to also check into the high numbers of those that did indeed die from cancer mostly because it went untreated..as it was undiagnosed..Or due to the many who cannot afford medical care in those countries..or even those places that have no doctors available...

No one is debating that a healthy diet vs. a poor diet indeed makes a difference in our health..same for stress..
But there is far too much evidence of those who even do a vegan diet..have little to none in stress..live as naturally and healthy as one possibly can..and they do get cancer..as well as many other diseases..

Every single one of us..healthy or unhealthy..we all have cancer cells in us..
"Although there is no guaranteed way to prevent cancer, people can reduce their risk (chance) of developing cancer by"

* not using tobacco products
* choosing foods with less fat and eating more vegetables, fruits, and whole grains
* exercising regularly and maintaining a lean weight
* avoiding the harmful rays of the sun, using sunscreen, and wearing clothing that protects the skin
* talking with a doctor about the possible benefits of drugs proven to reduce the risk of certain cancers

But the sad reality is..no one is immune to cancer..no matter what steps one takes..

We live as well as we can..well most of try to..and even though as many risk factors can be avoided.. some.. such as inherited conditions..along with other factors are unavoidable..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:15 pm

"We are probably drinking diluted medications and hormone tablets as there are traces of them in the water."
Oh sure - all that is regarded by FDA as fringe benefits of Big Pharma's generous "drugs for everyone" policy!!

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:30 pm
Again if there were any truth to these statement above..well then why don't we ALL have cancer..Why aren't we All unwell and sick..

Yup..its a plot to kill us all..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:43 pm
Eleven thousand Hunzas didnt get cancer Dee not one but then they didnt have the drug industries or the big agricultural industries poluting there land and water supplies. They didnt have the makers of Agent orange over their crops (wink wink)

Instead of multi-vitamins Lars we get multi-drugs its thoughtful of the drugs industry to make sure none of us goes without.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:49 pm
A recent study by eminent oncologists Dr. Lennart Hardell and Dr. Mikael
Eriksson of Sweden [1], has revealed clear links between one of the
world's biggest selling herbicide, glyphosate, to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a form
of cancer [2].

In the study published in the 15 March 1999 Journal of American Cancer
Society, the researchers also maintain that exposure to glyphosate
'yielded increased risks for NHL.' They stress that with the rapidly increasing use
of glyphosate since the time the study was carried out, 'glyphosate
deserves further epidemiologic studies.'

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:51 pm

I agree. And we're deeply grateful. In fact , I don't know how to thank them enough !

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 5:57 pm

.... for their provision of multi-drugs in our water supply. That´s a free gift from our wonderful Big Pharma friends !!!

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 6:14 pm
I'm not quite sure why you both feel the need to keep copying/pasting here..but I will say this..
The Ignorance in some..never ceases to amaze me..

As far as I am concerned this has nothing to do with the story here..though I can see you both clearly and personally are entertaining each other..maybe you both need to go over and read the story again to understand the topic of this discussion..

Until then I will leave you two to your private entertainment..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 6:52 pm

Bye, bye now ! We all will be missing your expertise on this subject and are real sorry you have no more of your valuable knowledge to share with us.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 9:04 pm
Once again, no answers from either Lars or Jeanette as to what they would do should they have the misfortune of getting any form of cancer .... once again , these same people are ignoring the fact that CANCER is not a disease, but an umbrella name for over 200 different diseases, so again, saying there is a blanket "CURE" for CANCER is in fact a crock. Impossible.

As for bringing it on myself, once again, since 1996, when Jeff was first dx with KIDNEY cancer, we have followed a very healthy diet ... not that it wasn't healthy before. As for the water debate, we have our own rain water tanks, with absolutely NOTHING added. ... unless you count bird and frog poop washed in off of the roof and to combat that, we have a filter attached to the pump and another under the sink in the kitchen. We grow our own organic fruit and vegies and eggs from our free range hens, who are supplementary fed with an organic laying mix. Same with the geese. So blow me down, with all this and no stress ... seriously, we refuse to have stress in our lives ... I still managed to "CATCH" ESOPHAGEAL cancer. Oh forgot to mention, we don't smoke anything nor do we drink alcohol. We have also been taking Selenium, Grape Seed, fish oil, multi vit (although with our diet we don't really need to), Glucosomine and we also live in a rural area, so no pollution.

Yes, I chose surgery to remove my tumour ... which left me with only 1/2 a stomach and 1/2 an esophagus, but then I couldn't swallow, so felt I had no choice. Didn't want to starve to death. I then CHOSE to have chemo as 15 of my 30 lymph nodes had ESOPHAGEAL cancer in them. Along with the chemo, I kept up my daily meditation and took on massage. My masseur also does lymphatic drainage and Reiki for me. I am now 14 months out from my surgery and still have eating issues ... NOTHING to do with the chemo, but with the reshaped "stomaphagus".

Jeff is facing a new battle, as 2 secondaries from his KIDNEY cancer, that have been stable in his lungs for 2 years, have taken advantage of the stress from my dx and started growing. Our Onc (we are lucky enough to have the same one) advised against Sutent, which is newly available for KIDNEY cancer as she feels the side effects outweigh the benefit and she would rather only use it as a last resort ... and no, it isn't a traditional chemo, as it doesn't affect the immune system. He is back doubling up his healing meditations to try an kill the buggers off, but if not, then we are hoping they will be removed surgically.

So I suppose that I would like to know what else we could have done. Actually, don't even bother answering .... it'll only be a cut and paste, but once again, after being so upfront with everyone WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS DO IF YOU OR YOUR CHILD GOT CANCER? betting office now open, with odds that 100/1, we don't get a straight answer from anyone.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 9:08 pm
MMM sarcasm and copy and paste now ...

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 10:11 pm
How dare you say such a thing to someone who just shared such a post..You are an heartless idiot Lars..and why you keep coming back to every story Chrissy or I do on anything to do with cancer and post the crappy things you do is nothing short of proof how much of an very rude idiot you really are..

Seriously what is your point to go out of your way and beyond stating your opinion on the topic to personally insult Chrissy or me on our choices..What is wrong with you..have you nothing better to do..Do you not know how to respectfully agree to disagree..Are you so bitter in your own life that you need to attack others..
Or were you not taught any better as a child..and even if that were the case..now as an adult..(if you are) do you know know any better..
You are pathetically sad..and truly ignorant and you have no regard for peoples feelings..do you..

You are not a doctor..you don't even know what you are talking about and you can copy paste all you want..a monkey could do the same thing..All you are doing is spewing the same thing over and over but now you are getting more personally..at attacking Chrissy and I won't stand by and not reply to that..

Are you a clone of someone and regardless if you are or not..really you are being an idiot here..with the sole purpose just to upset people..Is your own life so bad that you derive some sick pleasure from that..

Seriously..why don't stop it..or are you even able to..has you personal life become that bad that this is what you stoop to..

Sad..very sad..You should be ashamed of yourself..

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 10:57 pm
Thanks for the uspport Dee and just as I predicted, it appears that in the world according to Lars, I BROUGHT CANCER UPON MYSELF and yet he doesn't say how. Nor has he ... again as I predicted .... said would he would do if HE or HIS CHILD were to catch any type of cancer. Nor has he answered how people like Linda McCartney managed to "catch" cancer and subsequently die from it.

It's interesting and confirms my beliefs, which I will not share, that you say on your page that you are the way you are because of Jesus Christ. That he changed your life. Interesting.

Tuesday May 26, 2009, 11:00 pm
"Sorry about your bad choices Chrissy." ... Please enlighten me ... taking into account what I have already posted about my lifestyle.

"Again, you survived in spite of your chemo, not because of it." ... yep and it was a choice I made, not my Oncologists.

"And don't forget, no one contracts cancer by chance ...." ... so I "caught" mind because ......

Wednesday May 27, 2009, 2:19 am

Here's for us who are smart enough to take control of our health:

WHY BIG PHARMA'S "SCIENCE" IS PURE JUNK

What AstraZeneca did with suppressing some clinical trials while highlighting others is called "cherry picking" the study data. It's a red flag that scientific fraud is underway, and no self-respecting scientist would ever support any conclusion derived from clinical trials that were selected in this manner.

Cherry picking the science is a routine practice at drug companies: They might commission ten (or so) studies on their drug, compile the results, then throw out all the studies showing their drug to be dangerous or deadly. The rest of the studies -- which magically show the drug to be safe and effective -- are then forwarded to the FDA for "review." The FDA, which conducts no scientific studies on its own, completely trusts the drug trials funded by the drug company, so it declares the drug to be "safe and effective" and gives it the stamp of approval for nationwide consumption.

This is how drugs get approved today. It is laughingly called the "gold standard of evidence-based medicine" by drug pushers and FDA bureaucrats. Anyone familiar with this process realizes the whole drug approval system is based on scientific fraud. It has nothing whatsoever to do with rigorous science or consumer safety. - but has everything to do with profits. And we are the guinea pigs ....

Wednesday May 27, 2009, 3:30 am

Here´s more for us who are smart enough to take control of our health:

BIG PHARMA'S HIDDEN AGENDA - what they don't want us to know !

Here is a link to a video from YouTube done by a former 15 year veteran Pharmaceutical Sales Representative sharing her job experience. Big Pharmaceutical companies have absolutely no desire to cure anybody…this would simply put them out of business. It´s just simple logic - and this lady's testimony confirms it ! Check her out here by copying this link and pasting it in your browser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AazObF_pHSU

Wednesday May 27, 2009, 3:20 pm
Oh you tube..now there is a sound source for sure..Anyone can make a video and support anything..however..that doesn't make it so..How silly to think that supports your side of this issue..lol..

As for anything else you are still copying/pasting..once again it is from website that are biased against this issue..and again that doesn't make it so..

Sound and rational facts are what I prefer to deal with..but I guess some prefer to ignore the truth and facts and just live in their own little world..and they do..often quite foolishly..

Wednesday May 27, 2009, 10:45 pm
Dee, it's a moot point as lars is never going to "CATCH CANCER" as is perfect and lives a perfect life, in presumably the perfect country, with perfect air and perfect food and water ... oh, hang on a moment, that's what I always thought too .......

Thursday May 28, 2009, 10:21 am
ttp://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/1153702

Dr. Jonathan Wright MD; Censored Health Secrets, What Drug Companies Do NOT Want You To Know

In this exclusive NaturalNews interview, Mike Adams talks with Dr. Jonathan Wright, M.D., a true pioneer in nutrition, disease prevention and health freedom. Dr. Wright's clinic was raided by the FDA, ONLY because he was using natural health modalities...and not using chemo, drugs and radiation.

The FDA broke into his clinic, took all his files, computers and supplies, including patient records. They tried to put him out of business and suppress what he was teaching, by punishing him financially and legally.

He defended himself and won in court.

Now if the FDA treats an licensed medical doctor like that, what do you think they do with natural health practicioners, who have much less money, resources and standing in the community. When the FDA comes and breaks down your door, and takes all your files, bank account and tosses you in jail, what would you do?

Remember you have committed no crime, other than offering homeopathy, vitamins and other natural health remedies...

Thursday May 28, 2009, 4:13 pm
It is no one's business which mode of healing anyone uses. I was given Chemo and stopped before it did any damage. It did nothing but make me ill and feel like I didn't want to live. To live again I had to change my entire diet, stop eating dead food and build up my own immune system. I am a miracle in progress. Don't tell me that Big Pharma and (some, unfortunately, Many) Medical Doctor's get perks and bonuses for prescribing dangerous medications, including Chemo. Even a person who is 10 years old and younger can feel the effects of chemo. Our bodies can heal, but Western Medicine keeps the good old immune system down. No One has the right to tell anyone what they must do for their bodies.

Thursday May 28, 2009, 4:35 pm
Chrissy I think Lars is a moot point altogether for right now at least..
The profile you are looking for could not be found..

Thursday May 28, 2009, 4:36 pm
Eric..again with all due respect ..this was over "17" years ago..you can't seriously think that old article applies to today and here in the present moment..We have at least 3 places of business here in our little county that offer homeopathy..vitamins and all natural health remedies...I assure you there are no raids..no shut downs..

Now if one is offering false hope..or any fake treatment..I do hope the FDA is on their case in a NY minute ..and there are many out there..Online healing has become a very big bad business..and if anyone doesn't know that then indeed they are naive..

I am so baffled as to why anyone thinks that in this day and age..all medical hospitals..clinics..doctors..and so on do indeed use both..I am also baffled as to why anyone here thinks there is any dispute whatsoever about alternative methods..There is no dispute in that here..I have used every single method available to one..and I assure you there are many in both alternative/traditional readily available through my oncologist..

However..those here not fully understanding the seriousness of tumors..and or a cancer that becomes metastatic that indeed needs traditional methods..

Also sadly there is the fact that some cancers/diseases will not heal with either method..but certainly both can help and enhance one's survival rate..

To the topic of this news story regarding Daniel..He is finally getting the proper treatment..and I am happy for that..I send him positive healing hope..for his recovery to wellness..
No matter what we feel..I think it is best for each of us to respectfully agree to disagree..and just wish young Daniel well..