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Drug 'Attacks Cancer Stem Cells'


Health & Wellness  (tags: health, cancer, stem cells, research, treatment, prevention, protection, study, science, disease, drugs, medicine )

Dee
- 137 days ago - news.bbc.co.uk
A compound that appears to target the master cells which help breast cancers grow and spread has been discovered by US scientists.
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Dee C. (529)
Friday August 14, 2009, 12:12 pm
"In tests in mice, salinomycin killed breast cancer stem cells far more effectively than some existing drugs, and slowed tumour growth.

The drug, a farm antibiotic, has yet to be tested in humans, the journal Cell reports.

But UK experts warned a human version could be some years away. "

The reasons why, even following powerful chemotherapy, some cancers can grow back, are not fully understood.

Many scientists believe a key role lies with stem cells, which can be resistant to conventional chemotherapy, remaining to 'seed' new tumours and drive their growth.

The drug's potential was identified by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who tested 16,000 existing chemical compounds against breast cancer stem cells in the laboratory.

Read more at site..
 

Chaz Gaily Berlusconi (266)
Friday August 14, 2009, 12:30 pm
Wonderful news, they should do the experiments on people not on animals.. as this just takes a whole lot longer
 

Heather Andrews (333)
Friday August 14, 2009, 1:58 pm
Oh wow! This is wonderful to hear!
 

Dee C. (529)
Friday August 14, 2009, 9:32 pm
They do test on humans as well..Either way it is a long process..but a very necessary one..

I hope they succeed..
 

Michelle M. (83)
Saturday August 15, 2009, 3:55 am
I do too, Dee. Thanks so much.
 

Sharen B. (42)
Saturday August 15, 2009, 6:38 pm
Good news, now lets make it so if it is tested and proven, that ALL can afford it.
 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 12:23 pm
I am very surprised that an antibiotic can possibly be good for anyone's health, least of all, to get rid of cancer. Antibiotics are manufactured from mold, or fungus, and people who have had long histories of antibiotic therapy usually get cancer. The article says that this substance arrests cancers which have even been resistant to powerful chemotherapy. As long as the medical profession and the pharmaceutical companies keep people believing that chemo cures cancer, we will never see an end to it. Cancer is the end result of excessive injuries to the body: chemical, drugs, poor diet, etc., and we will only cure it when our immune systems are given the chance to fight it. Most people whom I knew who took chemotherapy are now dead of cancer. Why isn't chemo on the "quack" list?
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 12:44 pm
Stuart..first..the medical profession has never claimed any cure for cancer..there is treatment..NO CURE..So that is a lie to state they have ever claimed that..

Secondly..Cancer is not brought on from diet..or injuries to the body..or drugs..Again all lies..

Chemo is not on the "QUACK list" because it saves people..I am proof of that..as is many many other people I know..People do not die from Chemo treatments..they die because the cancer cells renew themselves or spreads..


 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 12:44 pm
Hi Dee! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. But I don't believe in the crap (sorry!) The drug you read about has never been tested for interaction with other drugs. It may be safe taken alone but it is very common to take a few drugs at the same time (before or after a meal for example) for one ailment or another.

Stuart is right - chemo kills 499 healthy blood cells just to kill 1 cancerous cell. When it used to take 10 to 20 less painful years to die from cancer, now cancer patients who take chemotherapy suffer in agonising pain, lose their energy and their hair, and die anywhere within 2 days to 2 years.

Don't believe in the "prescription" drugs. All are with side-effects and worse, generations of consuming such stuff gives people autoimmune diseases and asthma.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 12:53 pm
Dee - there are already cures. Wiki for Max Gerson - his daughter runs Gerson Insititute for more than 30 years and has been curing cancer patients without use of chemo. They were the targets of threats but health authorities could not shut them down, because they proved their treatments works while no one could prove efficacy of chemotherapy.

The only reason why chemotheray "works" is because patients had the time to rest in between chemo sessions. That was what saved them.

Look into post-mortem records of cancer sufferers who had chemo - no cancerous cells, but also no white blood cells. How do people get better when their white blood cells are not there to FIGHT cancer?

What is the cause of cancer then if toxics are not the reasons? Toxics are capable of mutating DNA in cells.

Most cancer sufferers have bodies whose environment is acidic, and that is why cancer is able to survive, mutate and spread further. Our normal bodies are slightly alkaline, not acidic.

Chemo is radiation anyway. It's QUACKERY and has been for many years! I've ditched the PINK RIBBON for a few months now. I wished I did it a few years ago, I would have warned my friend who died being a chemo guinea pig. It was too late when I asked why they needed to test chemo machines when they said chemo is effective!
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 1:31 pm
"Stuart is right - chemo kills 499 healthy blood cells just to kill 1 cancerous cell. When it used to take 10 to 20 less painful years to die from cancer, now cancer patients who take chemotherapy suffer in agonising pain, lose their energy and their hair, and die anywhere within 2 days to 2 years."

Well then.. I take it neither you or Stuart have heard of Targeted Chemo..Its been around a while now..But one won't find that info on quack site such as "Max Gerson"

Chemo treatments absolutely depletes ones energy level for a while..and yes one dose lose their hair..though not all do..and those who do..It grows back..
As for dying within 2 days to 2 years..That is rediculous..
It has been over..well over a decade for me..

Look bottom line is..Everyone has the right..to choose their own treatment..should they ever need it..and to go to whomever they feel is best..for them..even if it is a quack like Gerson..or the many fly by night clinics or any online healers..who promise cures..with false testimonials..and so on..

But everyone should really educate themselves with as many "facts" as they can..when dealing with cancer..And by that I mean those who actually have cancer and not those who just read about it on these foolish web sites..and think they know the truth in it..





 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 1:44 pm
Oh, Dee!!! Do you hear yourself? " ."first..the medical profession has never claimed any cure for cancer..there is treatment..NO CURE..So that is a lie to state they have ever claimed that.. Secondly..Cancer is not brought on from diet..or injuries to the body..or drugs..Again all lies." If they do not claim a cure for cancer, why give it? To make people feel bad? You say the medical profession does not claim a cure for cancer, yet you say that you and many, many more have been cured. If that is the case, why doesn't the medical profession claim it as a cure (for some)? Dee, you cannot have it both ways! I am very happy for you and those "many, many others" who have survived, after chemo. May you continue to be well. If the cancer does not come back in 5 years, they consider it cured. Many "cured" patients have died after six or seven years. Of course, they were cured!!! In the grave!.
You also go on to state "Secondly..Cancer is not brought on from diet..or injuries to the body..or drugs..Again all lies." So, I guess smoking does not cause cancer. Smoking is healthy, right? Polluted drinking water with chlorine and fluorides is healthy, right? What about the hundreds of food chemicals which have been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt in laboratory animals to be carcinogenic? You can induce cancer in these animals, then challenge them with other factors to prove certain things. Are they all lies, too? Please, Dee, get educated, before you write an article, getting victims' hopes up on mythological "science".
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 2:00 pm
Dee sent me this,"Well then.. I take it neither you or Stuart have heard of Targeted Chemo..Its been around a while now..But one won't find that info on quack site such as "Max Gerson" Chemo treatments absolutely depletes ones energy level for a while..and yes one dose lose their hair..though not all do..and those who do..It grows back.. As for dying within 2 days to 2 years..That is rediculous.. It has been over..well over a decade for me.. Look bottom line is..Everyone has the right..to choose their own treatment..should they ever need it..and to go to whomever they feel is best..for them..even if it is a quack like Gerson..or the many fly by night clinics or any online healers..who promise cures..with false testimonials..and so on.. But everyone should really educate themselves with as many "facts" as they can..when dealing with cancer..And by that I mean those who actually have cancer and not those who just read about it on these foolish web sites..and think they know the truth in it.."




Thanks for your private reply to me, Dee. When there are less intrusive ways like blood tests to detect cancer (for example), do they always tell patients, or do they tell patients they need a mammogram?

You are right Dee, everyone has the right to choose their own treatment but how does one choose their own treatment when not all options are spelled to them by doctors hmmm?


Although I am very much tempted to say it's ridiculous to die from chemo in 2 days, it has happened before. One of which was reported here:
A teen became so weak from chemotherapy-induced treatments for stomach Cancer, that she had kidney failure within a few days of receiving chemotherapy.
Full story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-404599/Girl-killed-cancer-told-indigestion.html


Since people are free to choose their own cancer treatments, please allow me to quote several facts:
1. Two-time Nobel Laurette winner Dr Linus Pauling said: Chemotherapy kills more patients than the disease itself.

2. Researcher Dr. Ralph W Moss said "Chemotherapy is a dull weapon." He exposed the nearly abject failure of chemotherapy (that has come at the worst possible time for the beleaguered Cancer establishment that was reeling from the resignation of Dr Samuel Broder, the director of National Cancer Institute (NCI) and Dr Bruce Chabner NCI's director of Cancer treatment).

3. American physician Dr Lorraine Day, who understood Western treatments and chemotherapies fully, refused to go through with it.

4. Chemotherapy kills healthy brain cells: http://www.redorbit.com/news%2Fhealth/750107/study_says_chemotherapy_kills_healthy_brain_cells/index.html

5. "The disease that we call Cancer means that the immune system has failed to kill these naturally occuring Cancer cells before they got out of control and profilerated. overwhelming evidence suggest that Cancer is location-specific. That is, it's associated more with environmental factors (eg. food and drinks we take, air we breath, etc) than with heredity." - Dr. James W. Forsythe, Cancer Screening & Treatment Center, Reno (Nevada)

6. FDA officially approved a drug targetted at breast Cancer patients. The drug's called Evista and comes in a box a box warning patients of a heightened risk for stroke by taking the drug! Full story: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-approves-lillys-evista-for-breast-cancer


Sorry Dee, I may not have cancer but my mum had Cancer in all 2 places. She recovered without chemo too.

Did you mean Gerson is a fraud? Hippocrates Institute is also a "foolish website"? I noticed your posts here - 99% are all about 'good drugs'. Who do you really support? Money from drugs or good healthy lifestyle that helps mankind?

Targeted chemo is still chemo. It is still radiation (same substance). You have the right to your own opinion, I'd say chemo is ridiculous, so let people choose what treatments they want.
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 2:13 pm
Stuart..You really should read better..I never said I nor anyone else was cured..It is called remission..for most of us..Cancer can be treated..like many diseases/illnesses..there are treatments..not cures..This is what the research is about..to find a cure..a better way of treating many diseases..And there have been great strides made in it..
No doctor aside from the quacks out there will ever say they cured anyone's cancer..

Again..you really need to educate yourself about cancer..

"Cancer cells develop because of damage to DNA. This substance is in every cell and directs all its activities. Most of the time when DNA becomes damaged the body is able to repair it. In cancer cells, the damaged DNA is not repaired. People can inherit damaged DNA, which accounts for inherited cancers. Many times though, a person’s DNA becomes damaged by exposure to something in the environment, like smoking. "

And where some people blame what is in the world today..food..environment and such causing cancer..While I will not dispute that possibility as an added cause..but cancer was here long before many of those possibilities..

Oldest descriptions of cancer

"Cancer has afflicted humans throughout recorded history. It is no surprise that from the dawn of history people have written about cancer. Some of the earliest evidence of cancer is found among fossilized bone tumors, human mummies in ancient Egypt, and ancient manuscripts. Bone remains of mummies have revealed growths suggestive of the bone cancer, osteosarcoma. In other cases, bony skull destruction as seen in cancer of the head and neck has been found."

You have debated many of these stories..Yet you yourself have never had cancer..and I will add thank goodness..However..you have only pulled stuff of of silly sites to repeat here..

Yes smoking can and does cause cancer and many other illnesses..and I never said it didn't..As a matter of fact I have also done many news articles on the dangers of smoking..Lung cancer being # 1 because of it..


And like many of these articles I post on cancer (I do not write them) but I have had personal experience with what they claim..and I can say they are or are not helpful..

Again..as I said..you or anyone can choose to do as you see best for yourselves..However..what is so disturbing is that you and others like you who have never had cancer..come in and tell others what they should or shouldn't do..And you do it based on the Quackery site you get your info from..

Sadly if there are some out there with cancer and should they take heed to your nonsense..it would be a real shame that they didn't get the right treatment because you and others have scared them by this nonsense..

 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 2:35 pm
Kelly..I sent you no such thing..It was posted here..Not personally sent to you..
The post is right up above for all to see..What is wrong with you coming here and lying that I sent you a personal message..That is terrible to do..And I have no idea why you would do such a dishonest thing like that..

To give you the benefit of doubt..I will say perhaps you are mistaken in thinking it was sent to you..if you are tracking this story..you will get a copy of any post made here..I hope that is the case and you have not just deliberately lied about it..

As for your mom surviving without chemo..My sister has as well..She has breast cancer..No chemo to date and is doing well..
Every case is different..Cancer does not come in one size fits all..and that is the ignorance I see so often that where one did well without chemo and or surgery that it means everyone will..

Again..until one is faced with having it themselves..or knowing what type of cancer..where it is or to what extent it metastasizes..Not everyone does well on the same exact treatments..drugs..Everyone is different and every case of cancer is as well..

I support well-being..I support honest health care..I support facts based on proof..not just because someone is anti drugs..anti Big Pharma..

Except for one idiot who should not have been a doctor..I have never had a doctor not give me all of my options..both traditional and non-traditional..In fact most of my doctors work extremely well with both..

There are so many lies and false facts when it comes to treatments..and that is sad..
 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 2:59 pm
I think that we are quibbling over the word "cure"..It is not that hard to define. If chemotherapy gets rid of the cancer, and the patient can remain cancer-free, whether the medical profession calls it a cure or not, it would be a cure. But how many people have taken it and died anyway? Chemo is quack medicine, designed to make the phamaceutical companies wealthy, no matter how many desparately ill patients it devastates. I never said that I didn't have cancer. All of us have cancer cells inside us, which our immune systems are constantly fighting.

In a biopsy of the prostate, in 2000, I was told that I had cancer and that I should have either surgery or radiation. I chose surgically to have a radical prostatectomy, in which they biopsied my, by then, out-of-body prostate, and guess what? No cancer! Some who write here are so full of assumptions: (1) I never had cancer; (2) I get my information from "silly, quackery sites". I have ".come in and tell others what they should or shouldn't do." I do not go to cancer sites. Stop assuming! How can I take what you say seriously when you have so many incorrect assumptions? In 1975, I brought my aunt down to the immunotherapy practice of Dr. Virginia Livingston, M.D., in San Diego,a Vassar graduate, and in "Who's Who of American Women",then in her 80s My aunt had stage IV B. Nowhere else left to go. Dr. Livingston, a trained immunologist, developed and gave vaccines known to fight the cancer. She could never publicly state that she was curing cancer because the government would put this 80 plus year old genius in jail for treating cancer other than by the approved, accepted methods: surgery, radiation and chemotherapy. We got to know many of her patients who did very well. THIS WAS NOT REMISSION. IT WAS A CURE. I later, in gratitude to Dr. Virginia, arranged for her to get more patients and meet with more physicians to train them, up here in Los Angeles. I do now believe that the reason Dr. Virginia cured so many advanced cancer patients was because, in adition to the anti-fungal vaccines, she advocated a fungal-free diet. My aunt lived another 26 years, and she succumbed to the effects of a stroke, in her 80s.As far as Charlotte Gerson, who has pursued her revered father's methods, she knows more than any oncologist that I have ever met.
If you do not want to pursue immune-enhancement to treat your cancer, that is your choice. I have never ever told anyone what to do. But, I thought the purpose of these blogs was to exchange factual ideas and educate one another.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:06 pm
Wooops! Dee, I realise a little too late that the email notification with your comment is not a private reply. This isn't a lie, I truly mistook it for a private reply and I had no intention of replying privately as this may make a good discussion for others (after several comments, I will stop as I have to focus on getting sleep!)

"And where some people blame what is in the world today..food..environment and such causing cancer..While I will not dispute that possibility as an added cause..but cancer was here long before many of those possibilities.. "

It used to be lack of nutrition that caused cancer. Now it is "over-nutrition", obesity, toxic and stress causing cancer.

While it was only a fraction of world population suffering from cancer (before industrialization and chemo), now it looks like 1 in 7 has cancer or had it (an estimation from the number of people I know who have cancer in Singapore where I am).

That's 2 major differences of cancer before toxics and chemo "ruled the world" (chemicals and toxic wastes from factories, dying solutions, detergents, pesticides, etc), and cancer as it is now.

"No doctor aside from the quacks out there will ever say they cured anyone's cancer.. "

Nothing cures diabetes and cancer. That is because the health authorities don't want people to know there are cures. I asked myself, who should people be scared of? The health authorities or alternative treatments for cancer?

Why would people be scared of an apple or a natural food, as opposed to what chemo is or does? I can understand why orthodox medicines is feeling threatened by homeopathic meds. The major difference is that homeopathic meds do not harm cells to heal, does not interfere in the body's natural immunity but instead helps each body's organs to function better.

You said everyone is different. How is every normal person that has cancer, different?

Do you know Dee, most prescription drugs are not based on proven science? Even some food manufacturers are telling university researchers what to write on their products. It's sad sad sad! I call it "wishful science".

You're damn right foods don't cure Dee! My personal experience tells me too that the body is capable of self-healing, if given the right foods. The body is the best doctor, and Gerson nor Hippocrates would ever deny that.

Dee, your implying Gerson Institute and Hippocrates Institute, Bill Maher, and a number of other medical people and doctors are quacks. (They are the very same people or organizations that say toxics cause cancer and a myriad of other diseases.) I guess agreeing with their Gerson's or Hippocrates' treatments would also make me a quack!

Btw, Stuart - I can't view your profile at all. ?? Why?
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:13 pm
"But, I thought the purpose of these blogs was to exchange factual ideas and educate one another."

That is absolutely the purpose..But also important is stating facts not fiction..Not quackery..and not copy/pasting from unreliable websites..and or testimonials from those websites..

And yes..again..Everyone needs to make their own choices..but those choices should always be made on educated facts..



 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:17 pm
I re-read the message Dee posted to Stuart and it reads differently from what Dee sent me. Since that message did not appear here, it is a private message.....From you, Dee.

"Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 1:31 PM
Subject: Comment on: Drug 'attacks cancer stem cells"
 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:24 pm
Hi, Kelly C. You are right. I chose not to post a profile here. I guess that keeps me from being an authorized "member" of Care2. I am not interested in telling people about myself. Only sharing ideas.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:24 pm
What is "educated facts", Dee?

As far as I know, I don't think Stuart and I are sprouting fiction. Website testimonials? I am in amazement that you think we may not at least have a few friends or relatives cured by "Quacks"!

Stuart, I am also in full praise of Gerson - they know more than any oncologists I know.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:28 pm
Stuart, I understand. Okie, bed for me. 6.26am in Singapore! Night people!
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:29 pm
Stuart is known for posting and hiding his profile..We have done this before..As a matter of fact he has been banned before for his nastiness in posting these debates..And of course he will deny that..but that is the truth..

I thought you may have misunderstood that Kelly..which is why I explained it to you..

In any event yes..Gerson is/was a quack..The institute makes a lot of money..they also pay for people to write testimonials..They have gone as far as putting up statements from doctors who in fact were not even doctors..That is fraud ..
No I am not calling you a quack..but it is foolish to believe in these places..and sadly many do..But when the real world steps in and one is facing cancer..they learn quickly was it fact and what is fake and fiction..

All I can say is one will do what they feel is best for them in there own situation..and personally being in that situation is where one will learn the most..and that is a fact..There is nothing like reality to awaken one to the truth in anything..

How sad to be so cynical to say some of the things you have said..Such as they are hiding cures to make money..Very sad..and I do feel sorry for anyone who thinks that way..

 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:49 pm
Oh, poor, poor Dee. You are so desperate to put your point across and discredit anyone who disagrees with Her Majesty's opinion. When did I ever copy and paste any quack website on this blog? When did I ever quote a site, for you to say that I read "quackery" and "silly" websites? I explained to Kelly why she could not find my profile. I choose not to publish facts about my life.
I am not hiding anything. I could write a false profile, and no one would know the difference, but I am too honest to do that. Not having a profile is not automatic indictment of something nefarious, but you, in your insecurity, have chosen to prove, ipso facto, that I am dishonest. I disagreed with your conclusions. I never attacked you personally, as you did when someone made an innocent mistake about what she thought was a personal message from you. You went ballistic. And the biggest lie of all: If I have been banned from this site, why can you still read what I write? I will let others decide who is telling the truth.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 3:56 pm
I guess Dee, I am as cynical as you. :) As far as I know, Gerson has a clean record. And no, I don't work for them and have never been asked to be a testimony for them. I am one of their loyal newsletter subscribers. Gerson was also several media to support the no-meat diet that many vegetarians and activists are aware of.

As for Stuart, I would really like to know him (even though he seems like a private clamshell!) His comments (at least for this post) ...I find his comments more "awakening".

"There is nothing like reality to awaken one to the truth in anything.. "

Well, I am sorry for anyone who thinks the world of drugs too, or who has slandered Gerson.org and the likes without verifying facts from fallacies. I guess that wraps this up. Let's discuss this again when one of us has cancer. lol I will not reply anymore - will stop tracking this post. Thanks and best of luck!
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 4:43 pm
The Medical Society of the County of New York suspended Gerson's membership..and rightfully so..as the man was a fraud..
Raymond Gram Swing who spoke on behalf of Gerson..on a radio station..went on to describe beneficial results of Gerson's treatment for cancer.. which could not be backed up..and was later discovered that he never had cancer to begin with..
Gerson also lost his hospital privileges and malpractice insurance..

"Two aspects of the Gerson treatment have attracted attention as possible causes of adverse effects--the use of raw calves liver juice, and coffee enemas.

"Ingestion of raw calves liver juice has been associated with infection with Campylobacter fetus subspecies fetus, an organism that is carried in the intestinal tract of cattle and sheep. Infection with C. fetus subsp. fetus is treatable if detected early, but can lead to sepsis and death if undetected or inadequately treated (339). An outbreak of C. fetus subsp. fetus infection among cancer patients, some of whom were thought to have been treated with the Gerson regimen, was reported in 1981 (339)."

And..
"Charlotte Gerson claims that treatment at the clinic has produced high cure rates for many cancers. In 1986, however, investigators learned that patients were not monitored after they left the facility [19]. Although clinic personnel later said they would follow their patients systematically, there is no published evidence that they have done so. A naturopath who visited the Gerson Clinic in 1983 was able to track 21 patients over a 5-year period (or until death) through annual letters or phone calls. At the 5-year mark, only one was still alive (but not cancer-free); the rest had succumbed to their cancer [20]."

So yes..A quack indeed..and his daughter is as well..Now find out the cost for this so called.."Miracle treatment" that doesn't work..It would blow your mind..


 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 4:49 pm
Stuart..again you are pulling the same thing that got you deleted in another news story a while back..But please do continue on..

I have said clearly it is a choice that one will and should make on their own..I only say it should be based on facts not fiction and certainly not on any quacks out there..
These people are dangerous to one's health..and could not care in the least if they lived or died..

I am not desperate to disclaim anyone..and certainly not because anyone disagrees with me..I just like facts that are based on the truth that's all..


 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 5:12 pm
Well, whatever I am "pulling" that got me deleted in another news story, why don't you tell me and other readers what I am pulling. If I don't have a profile, how do you know that was me? I met Charlotte Gerson several times in my life. This was at the Cancer Control Society's conventions in the 70s. She made a lot of sense to me at the time.She knew a lot about the immune system, and Dr. Livingston asked her own patients to do coffee enemas, to cleanse their livers. Livers are always toxic in cancer patients. It is also a gall bladder cleanse. I know nothing about the Gerson therapy and would not go down there if I had cancer because I want the protection of the United States, not Mexico. Being banned by medical societies, the AMA, and the FDA means nothing to me. They are in the pockets of the pharmaceutical big business, and they will fight anyone who deviates from their profit-making protocols. Traditional medicine does not care about the well being of the patient. I like my calves liver rare, and I never got sick from it, any more than I would get sick from ingesting the blood of rare steak. If the immune system is compromised, I can see where people can get sick from raw calves juice, especially if the calf were not healthy. By the way, what am I doing now to get banned? Disagreeing with you?
 

Michelle Bafik-vehslage (9)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 5:55 pm
I just have to say,if this is a possibility it would be grand. I was just diagnoised with breast cancer on 21jul 09. It can not help me but who knows what the future holds. Just look at 25yrs ago and how far we have come. Keep the faith.
 

Stuart L. (0)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 6:02 pm
To Michelle So sorry to hear of your diagnosis. You are correct about the future. Not one of us knows what the future holds, in the next 10 seconds. Just keep studying and questioning. I am not suggesting that you follow any of what you have read today here, but you must take responsibility for your own health, so keep studying, asking questions, contacting survivors, and making up your own mind. My good thoughts go out to you.
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 6:34 pm
Hi Michelle..Very sorry to hear about your breast cancer..How are you doing now..
You are so right..the advances they have made even in the last 5 years are great..And each and every day they strive to make treatments/drugs better..and of course in working hard for a cure..

I hope you have a good doctor..that is most important..hopefully one who will work with you on both traditional/non-traditional heath care..
Please do not follow anything that sounds unsafe..or unreal..

I also hope you are getting good support with your situation..either friends..family or a support group if need be..If you ever need to talk..just contact me..
Be well..feel good..and above all hang in there..
 

Ancil S. (54)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 7:49 pm
This is wonderful news indeed! I had a favorite aunt who died July 16,1971,from cancer,just 3 days after my 10th birthday.She fought hard,but succumbed in the end.I do hope and pray they will find a cure for all cancers so no one else will lose a family member or even lose there own life.
 

Dee C. (529)
Sunday August 16, 2009, 8:07 pm
Ancil..I am truly sorry for your loss..Yes..this is good news..and they are working hard to seek a cure..and or methods that really help even more..
Thanks for sharing..
 

Edward H. (44)
Thursday August 20, 2009, 7:45 pm
It is good to see more in the arsenal to beat this beast...it will be a great day when cancer is finally tamed...
 

Dee C. (529)
Thursday August 20, 2009, 7:53 pm
Thank you Edward..I couldn't agree more..and hope that day is soon..
 

Kelly c. (100)
Monday September 28, 2009, 4:23 am
Cancer can be tamed, Edward! Except the law does not want to recognise it. Go to Youtube and research on Hemp Oil. In the 1920s a Cancer cure was denied because politicians beat 3 votes to it.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Monday September 28, 2009, 4:30 am
""Charlotte Gerson claims that treatment at the clinic has produced high cure rates for many cancers. In 1986, however, investigators learned that patients were not monitored after they left the facility [19]. Although clinic personnel later said they would follow their patients systematically, there is no published evidence that they have done so. A naturopath who visited the Gerson Clinic in 1983 was able to track 21 patients over a 5-year period (or until death) through annual letters or phone calls. At the 5-year mark, only one was still alive (but not cancer-free); the rest had succumbed to their cancer [20]."

So yes..A quack indeed..and his daughter is as well..Now find out the cost for this so called.."Miracle treatment" that doesn't work..It would blow your mind.. "

Hi Dee, give me the full name of that naturopath and I will verify for myself if your news is true!

And have you ever wondered why THEY are not able to shut down Gerson Health Institute? Because if they shut it down, they will have to renounce effectiveness of:
apples
acuppuncture
ayuverdic
Chinese Traditional Medicine
and to renounce that every herb, vitamin, mineral and enzymes ever studied in both humans and animals, on this planet.

As long as people do not eat right, the cancer will always return. My mum won cancer is 2.5 months with natural remedies, before her doctor sais CHEMO! We are no longer afraid of Cancer.

"The Medical Society of the County of New York suspended Gerson's membership..and rightfully so..as the man was a fraud.. "

Of course, the medical society had to suspend because they themselves were under THREAT! Life Threat!

You should really read up how the American Medical Assoc became rich. GREAT CORRUPTION rules the USA and of this world.
 

Kelly c. (100)
Monday September 28, 2009, 4:31 am
And hey, don't give your children any pats or massages because you know some councils say they are just QUACKERY and that massages has and will never boost your immunity.
 

Dee C. (529)
Monday September 28, 2009, 1:03 pm
Wouldn't it be common sense that if these claims made by these places were true..everyone would be rushing to get there..and cancer would be no more..

Seriously..

 

Kelly c. (100)
Tuesday September 29, 2009, 12:42 am
Yes Dee, what's stopping them from going out to get the cure? Because there are medical associations who say otherwise. It's not too long ago doctors said SMOKING is good for pregnant! And also that margarine (trans-fat) is healthier than butter. Who do you believe? What if people continued believing smoking was good?

ADHD is a disease name made up so the psychiatric establishment can continue to prescribe deadly drugs. RITALIN should ring a bell. It was first marketed as a weight-loss pill under a different name, and was pulled off after some complaints. Canada quietly placed Ritalin back on the market after "pressure"!!

That is why so many good doctors and clinics/institutes get threatened. And are called quacks.

There ARE baddies out there who want to profit from your sickness. And cancer is one of the most common ailment they wish people never know or find a cure for.
 

Dee C. (529)
Tuesday September 29, 2009, 2:09 pm
"ABC News blasts "alternative" cancer treatments. Last week ABC News PrimeTIME Thursday aired a detailed investigative report on quack cancer treatments in Mexico. During the investigation, which took place in December 2001, producers used hidden cameras to film what various clinic staff members told cancer patients who asked about the various treatments. The program's most unusual sequence was the interview with Dr. Juan Manuel Nunez at the Center for Integrative Medicine (aka C.H.I.P.S.A.), which offers hyperbaric treatment, coffee enemas, and other approaches based on the methods of Max Gerson and Joseph Issels. When the patient inquired, Nunez gave lengthy explanations of how the various treatment worked. But when reporters returned to question him on camera, he admitted that none of the treatments worked and said he didn't offer them, the clinic did. On the day following the broadcast, Dr. Stephen Barrett participated in an online chat at ABC News."

Again I will say..if these methods worked..if there was a true cure out there..regardless of what any one was saying or suggesting..people with cancer would be flocking to these places..And is is so ignorant to suggest otherwise..

When you speak of profit..are you saying Max Gerson or now his daughter.. and others like him do not profit from cancer treatments..They rip people tenfold..at much higher costs than traditional treatments....and most importantly it does not work...

They are called quacks..because they are..and scammers at also..

Kelly..you have the right to your own opinion..and by all means if you sadly ever get cancer you are free to run to your nearest clinic and get yourself a coffee enema..

I'll pass..and hopefully many others will.. who are wise enough not to buy into these frauds..




 
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