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Voting "YES" to Prop 2 Is Critical In Helping Farm Animals!


Animals  (tags: abuse, abused, AnimalCruelty, AnimalWelfare, animaladvocates, animalcruelty, animalrights, animals, animalwelfare, cruelty, environment, killed, law, protection, slaughter, Factory Farms, Factory Farming, Chickens, eggs )

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- 2113 days ago - cnn.com
If you live in California or have friends/family in CA please make sure they know about Proposition 2 and strongly urge them to vote "YES"! It would mean big positive change for farm animals. Check out this Larry King interview with Wayne Pacelle of HSUS:



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Saving OpusOne (179)
Friday October 10, 2008, 10:49 am
Larry King recently interviewed Wayne Pacelle of HSUS and itís a really clear and to the point piece that we would love for everyone to see; inside and outside of CA since this issue is wide-spread. California is precedent setting; Proposition 2 could be precedent setting if it passes. Prop 2 would be a dramatic positive change in the way of millions of farm animals. And if it passes in CA, additional states will be far more likely to follow the same example. Please spread the word to vote YES to Prop 2 in CA!
 

Dalia H. (1276)
Friday October 10, 2008, 11:20 am
Thanks for this. Signed and forwarded!!!
 

IE Ries (237)
Friday October 10, 2008, 11:38 am
Oooh, I hope it passes!

The photo shown for this article - animals caged up in tiny cells in relative darkness with no natural light, little or no ventilation, crampt beyond belief - how can any human knowingly do these things to another creature and still sleep at night, let alone think this is somehow acceptable? Are we really so short-sighted and greedy as a species that all that matters to us is money? Disgusting.
 

Pamylle G. (461)
Friday October 10, 2008, 12:06 pm
I hope it passes, too. Ditto to everything you so eloquently said, Rooibos. Thank you Opus, for sharing this.
 

Christine vaudrin rios (376)
Friday October 10, 2008, 12:26 pm
Way to go! So glad that Larry King talked about the importance of prop 2 and I can not wait to see it pass!!!! Kudos to all who have supported this HUMANE cause. I applaud you all!
Christine Vaudrin-Rios
Animal Rights Activist
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday October 10, 2008, 12:35 pm
Ok, left-coasters....sign! Opus, I hope Prop 2 makes it!
 

ROBIN M. (312)
Friday October 10, 2008, 1:16 pm
GREAT STORY I WISH THIS WAS NATION WIDE BUT AT LEAST IT IS A START LETS PREY THAT IT PASSES FOR THE ANIMALS SAKE. THEY NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET. VOTE YES.
 

Joycey B. (750)
Friday October 10, 2008, 2:19 pm
Thanks for sharing the video with us. I love Wayne Pacelle. He does so much for animals. I wish I could vote for this. Hopefully it will come to NC soon so I can vote. Thanks Saving Opus One.
 

stephanie v. (85)
Friday October 10, 2008, 3:07 pm
Oprah's show coming up Oct.14 is titled...Where Does Your Food Come From...with Lisa Ling. Good for Oprah! I hope this will EXPOSE modern "farming" practices. If this show opens some eyes maybe reform will be statewide! Most people don't even think about where their food comes from but they DO watch Oprah! Maybe she can help get this horror story out in the lime light and give it the attention we've been looking for! Thank you Opus for sharing. My family and friends in CA KNOW how I feel about this although many STILL don't want to know. I think I will have to give them a call and ask them to watch on Tues.!
 

Kat H. (303)
Friday October 10, 2008, 5:35 pm
Noted and will forward. Thanks Saving Opus One!
 

clara s. (12)
Friday October 10, 2008, 5:38 pm
This should be a no-brainer. How shameful that in the 21st century, in the USA, that most people don't give a thought to how other living creatures are treated. I consider that gluttony. Animals are every bit as sacred, probably more so, than people. but they have no choice in how they are treated. Wayne Pacelle is an angel. He works tirelessly for all animals. this should be law in every state.
 

Marieemma T. (227)
Friday October 10, 2008, 6:32 pm
I DON'T FIND THE PLACE TO SIGN ! HELP !
 

Nora J. (229)
Friday October 10, 2008, 6:47 pm
I applaud Prop 2. However, I am concerned that there will still be cruel and stupid people working in the industry who will continue to treat animals cruelly for their own sick pleasure. I think people who are allowed to work with animals should be screened for past records, similar to the Working With Children screening that exists now.
 

. (0)
Friday October 10, 2008, 7:27 pm
signed and noted thank you
 

JULIE ANN Z. (247)
Friday October 10, 2008, 8:39 pm
I love wayne Pacelle. He is a champion for animals. Part of what I like about him is puts his actions into practice. He has been Vegan forever, and fights for animal rights not just animal welfare. I pray every day that ca votes for prop2. I long for the day that no animal is eaten.
 

JULIE ANN Z. (247)
Friday October 10, 2008, 8:54 pm
I wish I still lived in Ca so I could vote on prop2, and I dont know anyone who does live in Ca. But I know God hears prayers and I am praying daily for prop2 to pass.
 

Pete Conrads (91)
Friday October 10, 2008, 9:02 pm
Thanks Saving Opus One!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday October 10, 2008, 11:38 pm
It's good to see that there is some sanity being brought to the raising of food animals. When I was a boy we did not mistreat our animals during their life times and we slaughtered them humanely when the time came. We were always taught to respect the animals for their willingness to give up their lives so that we might live.
 

gail dair (0)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 12:20 am
noted thanks Opus One
 

Kathy Chadwell (371)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 2:03 am
Noted, I'm not in Cali so I'm saying prayers:)
Thank you
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 6:53 am
NOTED! THANK YOU!
 

IE Ries (237)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 1:44 pm
"However, I am concerned that there will still be cruel and stupid people working in the industry who will continue to treat animals cruelly for their own sick pleasure."

Nora - good point.

I wonder, though, if it's more that they do not care and think animals "don't feel pain" or something as ignorant and backward as that motivates some of their behaviours...aside from the fact that they place all importance on profit and either don't care about the suffering they cause, or (somehow) don't think the animals are suffering. How many times have I hear "they don't know any better" as a justification to cage up animals the way they are in those hellish places?

My mother was a pediatrics nurse in the late 1950's and early 1960's. She remembers that, at the time, the doctors had theorized that children were not "fully developed," and therefore, didn't feel pain the way a fully grown adult would. Consequently, many children were often strapped during operations and given little or no anathesia. My mother told me that she personally had to hold down a child in an OR while the doctor attempted to operate and the child scream and thrashed (of course!). The doctor requested she keep the child still and she counted that the child was in pain and no amount of restraint would manage to keep the child still. The doctor told her that "the child is merely afraid, but doesn't feel pain" and wanted to continue the operation. She refused to cooperate until anathesia was given and subsequently resigned in protest over the situation and went to work at another hospital where the doctors there - younger and better educated doctors - were administering anathesia to all their patients (children and adults).

The only reason I'm relating this story is because the medical establishment genuinely thought - at one time in the past - that children "didn't feel pain." We look back at that now and think, "How ludicrous!" But at the time, many of the older doctors trained in the early 20th century still thought that children weren't as developed as adults and therefore didn't require anathesia because they didn't feel the pain as intensely.

There's another parallel here, too, as children and women were considered low on the social scale in most societies until only recently. Science and it's development and education is more dependent upon culture than people often realize. Animals are still considered property; it's been only in the last few decades that our learned scientists have begun to acknowledge and admit that other creatures are more like us than different, and that more and more humans also see this are beginning to loudly protest the horrible treatment of Earth's Last Slave Class - Animals.
 

June Rice (125)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 5:39 pm
yes on 2 in CA
 

. (0)
Saturday October 11, 2008, 9:51 pm
I hope it goes through, for the animals sake. Well said Rooibos!
 

Sheila G. (267)
Sunday October 12, 2008, 4:51 am
my God, Rooibos, isn't it unbelievable how man can torture the living with no concern? the only way to ensure this ends for animals in slaughter houses is to shut them down, and we know that will never happen. wicked people will find a way to abuse, regardless. ty Opus
 

. (0)
Sunday October 12, 2008, 10:54 am
Animals has a heart and I believe that if anything that has a heart feels pain and has emotions too. How I pray they pass this Bill. Thanks Opus
 

Laurel W. (217)
Sunday October 12, 2008, 11:29 am
Thank you! We have got to fight for them to have better lives and ultimately to be free.
 

Shirley Ross (180)
Sunday October 12, 2008, 6:00 pm
Thank you Saving! This is sooooo important. Even if you don't live in California, if it passes here, hopefully other states will follow. I agree, it needs to go out to everyone...every where! I will be voting yes on 2 for sure! I've noted, but it does not show up here.
I believed it is in effect in Arizona?
Good Luck to "farm animals every where!"
 

Kathy W. (299)
Sunday October 12, 2008, 9:36 pm
I hope it passes! And then spreads everywhere! Just wish I could vote on it. Thanks for sharing this important video, Saving O.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday October 13, 2008, 2:40 am
Thanks for the news. Noted.
 

Karin S. (16)
Monday October 13, 2008, 4:55 am
I sure hope it passes. I have voted YES, for sure.
 

Judith Jaehn Jaehn (199)
Sunday October 19, 2008, 1:20 pm
We are working hard in Calif, Wayne was also on Ellen's show! And Oprah's! He was great! We in Calif are making a lot of phone calls and handing out leaflets like crazy! We must pass this! If Prop 2 passes the animals must all be safe and out of their prisons by the year 2015! That gives them plenty of time! We have so much planed the next 2 weeks! These beautiful people that are putting these together are unbelievable! I feel honored to have met a few! Please, Vote Yes on Prop 2! Bless you Opus! Noted!
 
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