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More Lies, More Deception - Who Is Breaking the Rules, Iran or the U.S.A?"


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: usa, iran, lies, deception, spin, media, government, freedoms, ethics )

David
- 61 days ago - informationclearinghouse.info
The US government, which is currently engaged in three wars of aggression and has occupying troops in a number of other countries, insists that Iran, which is invading and occupying no country, cannot be trusted with nuclear energy capability.
Comments

Frank Gerry (46)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 5:34 pm
Great article, thanks David.
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 6:00 pm
Why in the World can we allow the U.S.A. and Israel to have nukes and yet throw stones at Iran?"...People in glass houses?...

The current sabre rattling over Iran, at war with no one, by the country with the greatest nuclear stockpile in the history of mankind, at war all over the planet and it's little, US funded, brother Israel is unjustified, hypocritical, frightening and absolutely unacceptable!...

I hope that NO ONE is taking this sabre rattling seriously, we sure as hell don't need ANOTHER pre-emptive war!?...

Remember Iraq and the weapons of mass DECEPTION?

History has shown us that it is easy to "talk up" a war and even convince the sheeple that that it was 'their' decision to simply avoid all attempts to negotiate peace but just bomb the hell out of 'them'...

Silly us must also learn the lesson that once a war is started, it leaves a lot of dead bodies and destruction and is bloody hard to stop!!!
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 6:05 pm
Pleeease don't help the US to help Israel wipe Iran off the map...Why should we?...The WMD BS wont work twice, or will it?...Didn't we learn anything in Iraq?
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 6:15 pm
Didn't intend to come back so soon but just watched the news and, don't know about you, but I am sick and tired of watching the US and Israel hypocritically (We have nukes, they don't and we won't let them!) piling heaps on Iran...'Sanctions' are only the beginning and like all sanctions have a greater adverse effects on the civilian poulation than the government...Pointless and idiotic?

LET US STOP THE WAR ON IRAN BEFORE IT STARTS!...

 

Alice B. (158)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 6:29 pm
The USA and Israel have gigantic percentages of their national budget in war - and in war-material production and arms-dealing around the world. DEATH DEATH AND MORE DEATH - that is their shared priority and has been for a long time now. And several other countries are happy for it to stay that way; Switzerland's 'neutrality' is a big joke - that country makes lots of horrible items used for torture, not to mention what horrific demagogues its bank system has propped up and enriched over the years. CRAPITALISM = CAPITAL/PROFITS FOR THE FILTHY-RICH VS. CRAP FOR ALL THE REST OF US.
 

Panda Eats Bankers (274)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 6:57 pm
Neither the Kissinger doctrine ,nor the neo-con ideology are dead..these dictate that America can do what it wants to attack other countries which "just may"become threats.Obama's saving grace is that he hasn't shown the willingness to actually take up arms against the Iranians,which might very well have happened by now under another Repuke regime.."bomb, bomb, bomb,bomb,bomb Iran"joked the hilarious McCain to the tune of Barbara Ann.The hippocricy continues however,and Iran's wish to advance it's energy system is being threatened by US/UK/French attempts to ensure that Iran ..a sovereign state.. is not allowed to have what other more dangerous states have,access to nuclear energy..how many Iranian's will gravitate towards more vigourous defending of the awful Almadinajhad as a result of this?Polarisation will be the consequence..plus many Iranian's will suffer badly as a result of much harsher sanctions.
 

Tinkie K. (51)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 10:20 pm
"Indeed, at this very moment the Israeli government is screaming and yelling “anti-semite” to the suggestion that Israel submit to IAEA inspections. Iran has submitted to the IAEA inspections for years."

This is true. Therefore it is very obvious to me, that this is, again, an excuse for war, just like 9/11. A spin, that is all.
The attack will happen, soon.... Who knows what will come after that... Iran is not planning to play the "sitting duck".
 

Brigitte T. (52)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 11:41 pm
Thank you David, for being the "voix de la raison" in a crazy world.
 

Kathleen R. (1021)
Sunday September 27, 2009, 11:45 pm
WE MUST PAY CLOSE ATTENTION!!!!!
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Monday September 28, 2009, 12:23 am
12,000 cops "from all over the U.S.",
protecting the attendees at the G20?!
Just a little hypocrisy, don't ya think?!

While I would love to see the nuclear genie
placed back into the bottle, how likely can
that be, 64 years after the beast has been let
loose?
Given the situation as it now stands, I would like
to think that a nuclear-armed Iran would be the
perfect regional balance to a nuclear-armed Israel.
However, Barack Obama has been doing his best
George W. Bush imitation this past week, with so
much tough-talk to Iran, after the IAEA made public the
existence of the second uranium-enrichment plant in Iran.
May Peace reign.....but, it remains to be seen.
Thanks, David.
noted.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday September 28, 2009, 1:17 am
IF?...

Surely the most radical Iranian extremist is not stupid enough to not be fully aware of the consequences of rocketing a nuclear warhead into Israel? (If they have one?)...As is being currently (without reason)'suggested' they might?...

Fully aware that any attempt to bomb Israel will end with another full on war and possibly the end of Iran as we know it...Therefore...IF there is a war on Iran, they did not start it?...

The US and Israel, for reasons best known to themselves, are denying that Iran is interested only in nuclear power but are hell bent on developing a nuclear bomb to wipe out Israel...Why?

Logic defies this, and with a bit of luck the 'warmongering powers' will realise that although their warped media may have convinced their audience that Iran is a 'baddie' and needs 'putting down...The rest of the world is not so blind!

The world does not need another war, why does the US and Israel wish to be further despised by the rest of the world? (The illegal war in Iraq didn't help)...Dunno, but rest assured they will be should this potential faux war become reality...

It is not too late to stop the madness (YET) but then there was time to prevent the war in Iraq but the 'people' did not react fast enough...Is it really going to happen all over again?
 

David Gould (146)
Monday September 28, 2009, 5:53 am
Are we to assume that the USA, Britain and France will now disclose all details of all their processing plants...or is this another case of one law for us and another for them. I seem to remember that one of the lies that was circulating to justify the totally illegal war in Iraq was that Saddam was starting to seek Nuclear technology...but did the world take notice as Israel, India and Pakistan all developed their nuclear capabilities...or were their programs with the West's blessings. But Iran...wow we must not let the mad mullahs have the capability of blowing our friends away...now that is double standards.

 

faith a. (179)
Monday September 28, 2009, 6:52 am
Who rules the world?? The G20 do.each and every member is a member on the board of the Central bank.who finances the wars ??always a country who is on this committee.If U will look and check I believe that only the countries on this committee or people who are on the boards of the Central Bank( Search engine Central Bank) have nuclear capabilities. It's all about the Banks and the Money,under the guise of economic recovery which I am all for but it seems that I have a different vision of how this should be accomplished than them.
PITTSBURGH -- The members of the G-20 are the finance ministers and central bank governors of 19 countries: Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, South Korea, Turkey, the U.K. and the U.S., as well as the European Union, represented by the rotating council presidency and the European Central Bank.
more at this link:
http://article.wn.com/view/2009/09/21/G20_Member_Bios/
 

Abdessalam Diab (33)
Monday September 28, 2009, 6:56 am
I believe it is the right of every country to have its own peaceful nuke program.So far AEA didn't confirm that Iran' s program is a military one while all the world knows that Israel had an intensive military nuke program and doesn't deny that it has nuclear bombs and refuses to sign the international agreement in this respect.How many hears have passed and the world namely western world refused draft resolutions before the AEA to force or even to ask or invite Israel to sign the said agreement till only few weeks ago?Why does the US and other nuclear countries allow the Zionist state to do whatever she likes and condemn any move from Iran in this path?All countries must be treated equally.IT WILL BE A BIG MISTAKE IF THE WORLD, SPECIALLY USA, GAVE A GREEN LIGHT TO ISRAEL TO ATTACK IRAN OR DIDN"T STOP ISRAEL FROM THINKING ABOUT THIS.
The world will regret it for a long time because the result will be beyond imagination and all the Middle East,the main source of oil,will be set on fire and this will affect all world economies.LET US HAVE A MIDDLE EAST FREE OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
 

Casey Reed (36)
Monday September 28, 2009, 9:02 am
We, the people of the U.S., have never been able to stop wars from occurring. Even the Vietnam War killed millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese, as well as 52,000 troops.

What we need to focus on is ending the Military Industrial Complex and making it illegal to sell arms or war materials PERIOD. Secondly, we need to make laws that make it illegal for corporations to profit from selling arms to the U.S. government.

Nuclear power is THE most dirty form of energy you can use. It produces several tons per megawatt of power/year of highly contaminated waste that can NOT be stored easily or safely for hundreds of thousands of years.

250,000 years is the half life of high grade radioactive waste from nuclear power plants or weapons grade production facilities. What is the trade off in terms of human health when solar, wave, wind, and even algae produce energy beyond the capability of nuclear power with NO contamination?

There is no choice! End the use of nuclear power and end the production of radioactive waste and weapons.

 

Scarlett P. (93)
Monday September 28, 2009, 9:08 am
"BLESSED BE THOSE WHO DO BLESS YOU: ISRAEL! Those who turn their back on Israel shall fall....

You know David... You are not an American.... I am so tired of the way you and even some so called Americans run down this country...
 

Paul Puckett (25)
Monday September 28, 2009, 10:15 am
According to the US Treasury dept, 21% of the 2008 budget was for National Defense, which includes evertything from the Coast Guard to mililtary operations. 53% was for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and Health and Human Services. The US Treasury Budget reports are available at the Treasuries website.
 

Paul Puckett (25)
Monday September 28, 2009, 10:19 am
Oops, I should use a calculator more often, it's 21% Defense, 58% Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Health and Human Services.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday September 28, 2009, 12:14 pm
NEWSFLASH EXTRA:

"U.S., Israel and U.K. demand unfettered access to Iranian nuclear plants"

Does that imply that the "big three" will give, in exchange, unfettered access of their plants to Iran?

NOT BLOODY LIKELY!...Hypocracy in motion (again)...

Who Is Breaking the Rules, Iran or the U.S.A./Israel/U.K?

NO MORE WAR!

 

Ruby A. (16)
Monday September 28, 2009, 12:35 pm
Leave these people alone. Get the people involved in the peace talks. What Bush did is going to be very hard on all of us...these people have always fought their own battles, they call it a holy war among themselves. Have been, for ever. It should be: if they need us we will be there. I understand there are hostile situations there, but they fight, always have, they don't adhere by Americans doctrines. Certain people in this country think that violence is all there is...it is not. We need to mind our own business, there is so much we have to do for this country. Jobs , killing of our kids, murders, child porn, slave trade, and the list goes on here at home..I have read the Koran and I understand...there is no way that the powers that be will ever understand...It's like trying to stop a school fight in the playground, it will start up again, kids are going to fight....the generals and condi Rice and those who were in the Bush administration should let this go..some people only think that war is the answer, it is not...Take care of HOME...
 

eileen k. (1)
Monday September 28, 2009, 2:17 pm
Scarlet, David is much more American than you willl ever be. Iran has NOT invaded its neighbors in a few CENTURIES; whereas, US/UK/ISRAEL have invaded at least twice in three DECADES.. And, which country actually USED nuclear weapons?? The US - on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August, 1945. If you truly cared for this country, you would support healthcare for ALL Americans - as well as jobs for the 9%+ unemployed - not a group of psychopaths in Israel. David and the others here are absolutely right. Israel has over 400 nuclear warheads - some of them pointed straight at European capitals. Now, who's the "baddie" here? Not Iran.
 

Bruce Anderson (29)
Monday September 28, 2009, 2:43 pm
Okay guys let's keep together before going off in opposite poles. David you do bring up some valid points, ie:Israel not wanting to bow to IAEA inspections and that Iran has not invaded and occupied other soverign nations, but let's look at the current Iranian regime. Do you honestly trust what Ahmadinejhad says? Do you really think the secretly built Iranian nuclear unit is strictly for peaceful energy producing means? As a nation, Iran may not cross borders as a nation for military violence, but they certainly do through Hezbollah into Lebanon and Israel.

Yes, the US shouldn't have mettled in Iraqi sovereignty, but we have every right in attacking the ones who attacked us (al-Qaeda) and accommodated those attackers (Taliban) in Afghanistan.

Either side, don't work yourself up in a tizzy. Point is both sides have faults and both sides only want to concentrate on the other sides faults.

America as of late has had its foreign helm hammered these last eight years, But if it's down to the nitty-gritty I truly would rather live under an Obama run government anyday as opposed to a state controlled Ahmadinejhad government.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday September 28, 2009, 2:58 pm
"Do you honestly trust what Ahmadinejhad says?"...Not entirely Bruce but does that give anyone just cause to obliterate every man, woman, child and building in Iran in the "defense" of America?...I've had enough of pre-emptive' strikes, haven't you?

NO MORE WAR!
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:11 pm
Oh...And while on the topic of pre-emptiveness...Let's pre-emptively bomb North Korea too!...

Although neither Iran or North Korea have stated that they intend to attack anyone at all...

I have gazed into my chrystal ball and am now fully aware that both these countries are obviously covertly plotting to kill us all and must, therefore, be pre-emptively wiped out before they can bomb us?...(Better safe than sorry?) :-)

Does that make sense to anyone at all or only the U.S.A./Israel and the U.K?
 

Mark G. (26)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:16 pm
"But if it's down to the nitty-gritty I truly would rather live under an Obama run government anyday as opposed to a state controlled Ahmadinejhad government."
Well said. And the truth is, who wouldn't?
Also I would rather live under a Netanyahu run government anyday as opposed to a state controlled Ahmadinejad government as well.
Anyone think you could run this website out of Iran these days? Not bloody likely. The US hating is getting rather old.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:17 pm
AND while we're at it, there must be a few other 'sitting duck' countries that we can wipe clean and take over with our overpowering might?...

There must be a word for this?...How about 'Capitalistic, corporate driven, democratic, expansionism'?...
 

Pete Conrads (89)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:20 pm
Dear David, all US commodities have left the country, all the US has to offer is to bring the war to your door.... Another remark for my FBI Dossier.... hee hee not so funny when they are at MY door :o(
 

Elderberry T. (187)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:33 pm
Fine You do live under an Obama run government..enjoy the not too good nitty-gritty if you can...BUT that doesn't mean the rest of the Bloody world wants to does it? AND the problem is that is exactly what the US/UK/Israel shadow is up to...one big takeover and screw anyone who disagrees.
 

serge vrabec (253)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:42 pm
There will be no war in Iran, only peace. The "war" in Iraq is over and the war in Afghan is deflating, all is well. Do not believe that things will escalate because the few would once again TRY to fool the MANY(us), we are aWAKE, aware AND QUITE READY FOR ANY AND ALL SITUATIONS. WE are creating , not reacting. Their non-sense- is smoke once again as we will all see, we will not get fooled again like iraq. WE must be urgent in CREATING and pushing the renewable energies or this type of scenerio will become common place.
Sustainability and changing OUR culture , beginning with YOURself!!!!!!is what will save us. YOU ARE important, never mind these stupid wars that are about to end. :):):) thx david

FEAR NOT PLEASE, it only fuels their "fire". They are beat anyway, resistance is futile, lol....

WE HAVE grown very strong indeed, power with is the key, not power over. REJOICE
 

serge vrabec (253)
Monday September 28, 2009, 3:44 pm
"Revolution in their minds - the children start to march
Against the world in which they have to live
And all the hate thats in their hearts
Theyre tired of being pushed around
And told just what to do
Theyll fight the world until theyve won
And love comes flowing through

Children of tomorrow live in the tears that fall today
Will the sun rise up tomorrow bringing peace in any way?
Must the world live in the shadow of atomic fear?
Can they win the fight for peace or will they disappear?

So you children of the world,
Listen to what I say
If you want a better place to live in
Spread the words today
Show the world that love is still alive
You must be brave
Or you children of today are
Children of the grave, yeah!" _Black Sabbath- Master of Reality
 

Joe Jones (2)
Monday September 28, 2009, 6:07 pm
iran has threatened to "wipe israel off the map" and has shown how much it hates the israli person....iran is a loose cannon and would be willing to take many civilian deaths in order to take "israel off the map"...this is just one reason they should not have nukes there are many more...not to mention their support of terrorists worldwide and im sure iran is already sharing their info on nuclear tech with these terrorists as we speak....many bombs and ied's in afghanastan can be traced back to iran ....if you dont see the danger in an nuclear armed iran david you dont see
 

Frank Gerry (46)
Monday September 28, 2009, 7:28 pm
> "iran has threatened to "wipe israel off the map" and has shown how much it hates the israli person....iran is a loose cannon and would be willing to take many civilian deaths in order to take "israel off the map"..."

Amazing to see this lie continually repeated. President Ahmadinejad did not call for Israel to be "wiped off the map", as has been widely reported by war proponents. His statement translates to:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."

He was not speaking of Israel as a nation, he was speaking of the "regime occupying Jerusalem", that is, the present Zionist theocracy which illegally occupies much of Palestine. This is also evident from the context of the speech, which was entitled "The World Without Zionism" and was a message of hope for oppressed Palestinians. He did not actually call for anyone to be "wiped off the map". He called for the Zionist regime to "vanish from" or be "wiped off/away" from the "pages of time/history". He was calling for an end to the current oppressive regime, something which many others around the world including Jews have called for. It is false to interpret this a threat to militarily annihilate the entire nation of Israel.

The "Wipe Israel Off The Map" Hoax
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

"Wiped Off The Map" - The Rumor of the Century
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4527

> "this is just one reason they should not have nukes there are many more...not to mention their support of terrorists worldwide and im sure iran is already sharing their info on nuclear tech with these terrorists as we speak....many bombs and ied's in afghanastan can be traced back to iran"

One man's "terrorist" is another man's "freedom fighter". The Iraqis and Afghanis are fighting a foreign occupational force. If Iran is supplying weapons to the Taliban, it is not the first nation to do so:

Taliban's Tank-Killing Bombs Came from U.S., Not Iran
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48324

U.S. Uses False Taliban Aid Charge to Pressure Iran
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47504
 

Judy Cross (81)
Monday September 28, 2009, 7:33 pm
Iran isn't the loose canon....Israel is. Iran hasn't attacked anyone for over 250 years.

Israel attacked Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and even the USS Liberty for 5 hours killing something like 37 and wounding 148.....and John McCains admiral father helped cover it up. Israel has 300-500 bombs and has said they will use them.

Lyndon Johnson was often hosting Mathilda Krim , a former member of the Irgun, at the Whitehouse at the time. She was there during the time of the 1967 war when the Liberty was attacked..

It couldn't be more obvious that Israel is a destructive parasite on the US body politic.
 

Ralph F. (12)
Monday September 28, 2009, 8:36 pm
My friend is a Yiddish-speaking Jewish person. He has been anti-nuke and anti-Israeli government for over 45 years. Does this make him anti-Semitic / pro-Terrorist?
 

Chrissy N. (118)
Monday September 28, 2009, 10:31 pm
"The current sabre rattling over Iran, at war with no one, by the country with the greatest nuclear stockpile in the history of mankind, at war all over the planet and it's little, US funded, brother Israel is unjustified, hypocritical, frightening and absolutely unacceptable!..." ... Well said David

and

"Israel attacked Lebanon, Egypt, Syria and even the USS Liberty for 5 hours killing something like 37 and wounding 148.....and John McCains admiral father helped cover it up. Israel has 300-500 bombs and has said they will use them. " ... We may differ on climate change Judy, but couldn't agree more with you on this.

The USA cannot survive without being in a war. Historical facts prove this.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Monday September 28, 2009, 11:25 pm
David B.,
as distasteful as it was, the concept of
"mutual assured destruction" is the reason
why the U.S., Russia, the former Soviet states,
Western & Eastern Europe are still on the map.
A bit of this could be a good thing for the
Mideast. Having only ONE nuclear-armed power
there is NOT a good thing.

Joe Jones:
Thanks so much for filling us in on what
Fox News has to say. You may not realise,
but some of us actually use the brains God
gave us. Still, it's always helpful to know
what the idiot fringe has to say about things.
Keep up your drooling, mouth-breathing work.
 

Abdessalam Diab (33)
Tuesday September 29, 2009, 12:17 pm
Scarlet
BLESSED BE.........." Don't forget that GW Bush and company blesed Israel and they had deeply fallen in history trash box.
 

Michael Dewey (428)
Tuesday September 29, 2009, 6:19 pm
There are those who control power today that think some great world war is Christ's will. My Chirst wouild not have shocked and awed Iran or anyone.
 
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