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We Just Bombed the Moon! - Doesn't Anyone Else in the Universe Get a Say in This?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: moon, water bomb, environmentally incorrect?, nobel peace prize, how many planets can we destroy?, crime, abuse, ethics, we destroyed Iraq, where to now?, How high is the moon? :) )

David
- 79 days ago - alternet.org
So, Obama wins the Nobel Prize for peace, just as we go ahead and bomb the moon. Don't worry it's not alien terrorists we're after, just water. But then again, I'm no rocket scientist. So why the heck are we doing this? Stuffed if I know, do you?
Comments

B. M. (99)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:02 am
David......Seems to me man just can't leave well enough alone!!

I know you agree..........Man seemingly walks, talks stumbes &
staggers his way to destruction.............Perhaps that is why
martians have never shown themselves. The martians think we
are nuts & dangerous most likely.

If only man were a bit dumber........Would he be any smarter?

Maybe if there were not sooooooo many of us we would
not have the nerve or the urge to go beyond our own planertary door.

I really think there is something wrong with our brains.

Plant trees for life...................
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:04 am
NASA said Friday's rocket and satellite strike on the moon was a success, kicking up enough dust for scientists to determine whether or not there is water on the moon.

"We have the data we need to actually address the questions we set out to address," said Anthony Colaprete, principal investigator for the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, mission.

NASA crashed the rocket and a satellite into the moon's surface on Friday morning in a $79 million mission. (Why waste money in a collapsing economy?)

I could think of a few things we could do with $79 million -- like help kick off a public trust fund back here on Earth to ensure adequate infrastructure for safe drinking water, housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, healthcare for all, education for the un-educated etc, etc?
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:08 am
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I have already Care2, have a problem with that? :)
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:15 am
"Seems to me man just can't leave well enough alone!"...

I agree B.M. but I have spent every waking hour of my life wondering if there is water on the moon, haven't you?...Hopefully $79 million will give us the answer and we can rest easy from here on in? :) Wotawasteofmoney!
 

Bill C. (347)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:23 am
Your right David, we should have never left the cave or the trees. We should all only live to be 20, have no medicine, no stupid stuff like electricity, computers, phones. We should have an infant mortality rate of 95% and have the right to simply club idiots whose goal is disruption. Hell we don't even need fire or the wheel, damn inventions ruined our lives, we should be void of art and have no goals or desire to learn.

Yes David with people like you leading the way we would have never even had language, another useless thing and what idiot invented boats? Stupid fools did not see that once someone realized they could go to other places they could not be killed if they got uppity. And DAMN the Wright brothers, take a bicycle and make it fly, hell they were likely plotting 9-11 when they did it.

If we had stopped idiots from discovering what cause the plague, who by the way are the fathers of the H1N1 conspirisy to kill us all off, yea they thought of it in 1350 and now they are ready to strike, disease would have kept populations so low that with the animals eating us we would not have ZPG.

Yes David your the man, learning is wrong BAD BAD BAD. And who the hell gave women shoes? They did not need them, running after game and picking berries for the men put good hard skin on their feet. Then some woman invents a spear and a shapes a rock to dig and POOF all hell breaks loose.

I tell you David you need to be careful because of progressive thought like yours you know the "man" is watching you, tracking your every move, your computer is likely infected with a keylogger, every time you leave your cave video survaliance.

Your a hero. Keep your cyanide pills close, science gets hold of that brain and God only knows what will happen. Bring back Oggla he knew how to run the cave.....why he could make a tree sleeping pad in less than an hour and when he invented the leaf on the head to stop rain, well we should have killed him just as he would have us for inventing such a thing.



 

B. M. (99)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 5:34 am
Bill......Your comment cracked me up!!!!!!!

But, truly Mother Earth could do withour a few billion
starving microbes & a few billion more trees.

Yes......Should have stayed in the caves & climbed
the trees for sight seeing!!!!!!!!...........Doesn't cost much.

Plant trees for life....................

 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 6:14 am
Where have you been all my life Bill?...I somehow knew there wasn't a 'real' person in it but now I'm sure there is one! :-)

To learn is to die?
 

B. M. (99)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 7:38 am
Well......If there is water way up there maybe
the U.S. can send all prisoners with a few seeds
of some sort, maybe tree seeds & just leave em' there.

The can stay up all night & chat about their criminal
escapades & look at pin up pictures tacked onto a few
boulders here and there.

I can just see it now, "I here by sentence you to 100
years on the moon". :O ).

What a trip!!

Plant trees for life.......................
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 8:24 am
Bill C, You know Ppsychiatrist say that if you insult others it means you are unhappy. You must be plum miserable because all I have ever seen you write is insults.
 

Bill C. (347)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 12:42 pm
Thank you so much Cynthia
 

Samantha R. (33)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 8:52 pm
What on earth does this prove? and why isn't that money spent cleaning up the filth and pollution man has already done to this poor blue orb? 41% percent of the oceans on earth are polluted and now they want to find water elsewhere to throw rockets into? madness, sheer madness.
 

B. M. (99)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 9:08 pm
Are we not a looney lot?

Our newly elected president gets
the Nobel prize for what I can not fathom,
we are overpopulated by any stretch of sanity
to the tune of 6.8 billion & half can't count
or read but they have learned the fine
art of begging.

and, now we watch while our well heeled
branier comrades blow millions all the way
to the moon looking for water.

Someday soon the only water man may
see is rain water..........

Yes Samantha......We are a mad lot even the animals
aren't as crazy as we are.

Plant trees for life.........On earth not the moon.................
 

Chrissy N. (114)
Saturday October 10, 2009, 11:07 pm
I could think of a few things we could do with $79 million -- like help kick off a public trust fund back here on Earth to ensure adequate infrastructure for safe drinking water, housing the homeless, feeding the hungry, healthcare for all, education for the un-educated etc, etc?

Here, here!!!!!
 

Suruna SisterTruth (46)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 1:11 am
You guys crack me up! Back to the trees? That's the 3 year old "What if?" game.

Getting serious, the money spent on this venture, astronomical (puns are fun) no doubt, again, why?

I don't believe it was a purely scientific pursuit. Sure, in the sense that what 'they' can learn about the moon for its' potential for colonization, for whom? I suspect a hidden agenda.

A space pod anyone? How about using us up, and our Mother, and having prepared, just moving on. Taking the brightest and the best, so they might think.

And, ya David, Bill, Casey, all fellow goof-balls, ... you know, beware.

I love the Minds and Hearts that come to share here.

 

Pamylle G. (256)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 4:03 am
There is nothing wrong with science & exploration. Unfortunately, we conduct such things in an ignorant, ultimately disrespectful manner." Dominant Paradigm" humans act as if there is no connection between things in existence, that humans (with schemes of future profit) are the most important creatures, that blowing things up is perfectly fine. I do not think so, and I am not alone.

It is violence, pure & simple. BOOM ! BOOM ! We are operating on the assumption the moon is just a big rock, that altering it will not affect us in anyway. I would suggest this mindset is ignorant; it is wreaking havoc here on Earth.

Surely we can figure out how to satisfy our curiosity without brutal force. It's beyond ridiculous, our immaturity.
 

Laurie W. (168)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 8:53 am
Pamylle...apparently I've already sent you a star this week..news to me !
I agree there's nothing wrong with science & exploration but for 79 million at this time. If there was the presense of a source of water on the moon this quest just answered a 70 million dollar question...meanwhile back here the moon influences the tide but doesn't and would never provide the multitudes with water to substain their existance...
Good thing the moon isn't made of cheese or we would have eaten it long ago..we seem to be in the dark most of the time so who needs the moonlight!
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 9:00 am
Laurie......Funny & truthful comment!!

Another star for you!!

Plant trees for life................
 

cheryl o. (0)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 9:06 am
Probably the dumbest thing we have ever done!! All that money could have fed the starving!! What the heck were they thinking?!!!
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 9:18 am
cheryl.......I agree!!

Along with feeding the hungery this
money could/would go a long way
in educating them in so many ways.

If I were in charge of such a huge amount
given to the poor wherever I'd feed them first
on a regular basis & then teach what advantages
there are to using birth control. It is a well know
fact you feed the hungry in poor countries
they tend to expand their family size. And, for
this to happen is detrimental to having healthy
educated people.

Again, all those millions spent to just see whats up there
and man can not see what is in front of him here on earth.


I'm amazed of our supposed intelligence.......Plant trees for life...................
 

Arielle S. (116)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 10:17 am
Ah, the money we could have used for something meaningful....and we all know that thing about the butterfly flapping his wings in Asia so how could we think this bombing would not have some effect? Headline later this week: "Moon cracks and crumbles".
Is it any wonder so many of us prefer animals to people?
 

Betty Robinson (43)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 11:34 am
we have so much of our own things to take care of on this planet why are we messing with the Lords handwork. come on Build homes for the homeless, feed our children, spend money on things that are necessary not the moon. We need to focus and we are not. I agree with you Arielle s I love animals they know better then we do , we are destroying ourselves.
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 11:37 am
Betty.........The animals have far more common sense.

Plant rees for life.....................
 

Cheryl S. (61)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 12:34 pm
My first response was...who's bright idea was that. What a waste of tax payer dollars. Are they aware of what's going on here? Are they bored and Ignorant? Do they live too well or are they well? If they want to bomb something, join the armed services.
 

Marion Y. (287)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 12:36 pm
Kudos to Pamylle for a great comment.

I agree: there is a responsibility and should be an accountability for actions like bombing the moon. First, we can't afford experimentation like this right now. Second, shouldn't we take care of the planet we live on first before we explore another one? Of course, the conspiracy theorists would say the masses who would destroy another planet will not get there to do so. Something to think about...

I'm all for science and all, but this is a crazy action at this time.

 

Shirley H. (36)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 12:44 pm
What a GIANT waste of monies that was.
Shirley H.
 

Martha A. (8)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 1:13 pm
Perhaps the rocket was not sent to the moon to find water. Maybe it was sent to destroy a base or something else we found previously or left up there.
 

Mary D. (9)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 1:56 pm
Why, why. WHY do some of us have to get ugly and call people idiots if they disagree with you? To quote Rodney King: "Can't we all get along?" A lively debate is fun - but when it turns from disagreement into belittlement and name-calling, it's not fun anymore. Come on, guys - chill out!
 

Catherine O Neill (48)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 2:17 pm
IMO it was money wasted!! We need to take care of Earth 1st I'm sure there's a few ways the 70Million could've been spent lol I]m saying laugh out laugh because it comes down to pure Common Sense IMO
 

Iain Parkes (0)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 2:24 pm
All the money spent on this has stayed on the Earth! It has gone into the pockets of all the people who have had a hand in producing this rocket - from the miners who mined the metal which went into it, to the person who pressed the big red button that launched it!

All of these people live on Earth and the money stayed on Earth, it got spent on food and water, housing, transport and taxes - it continues in circulation continually! We are going to live in space eventually, and the Earth will be left to the cuddly animals - but we will only get off this rock if we can find resources to live off of, and water is the most essential resource there is!

Money spent trying to expand the area that life can exist in, has not been wasted!
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 2:37 pm
Ian I did not think of it that way at all.

Very good point!!.........Plant trees for life..................
 

David Gould (145)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 4:42 pm
Clearly following the great American principle..."If in Doubt...Oh Bomb her."

Perhaps if they get busy bombing the moon they will leave some of of those wretched people on earth alone.

Iain...nice point. All those folk got to eat as well...like those poor arms dealers who mop up all the spare dollars sloshing around...those that the bankers haven't stolen.

Why would NASA be worried about spending your money anyway...there is plenty more...first it is blood out of a stone and then it is water out of the moon...wonder what his next trick is going to be?

"OHbomberHER" Worthy recipient of a peace prize when he declares war on the moon...I think they let the wrong folk out somehow.

 

David Gould (145)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 4:44 pm
Oh go on crack a smile for tomorrow is Monday again.
 

Nyack Clancy (781)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:02 pm
Well, see.. this will supply scientists with an anual 7 figure salary over the couse of the next 10 years as they study...

WHY THE OCEANS'S TIDES HAVE SUDDENLY AND MYSTERIOUSLY CHANGED...
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:25 pm
Smile cracked as ordered, thanks David it feels good :-)...

"We are going to live in space eventually"... Are we Iain, really?... At what cost and why?...After all we don't understand the workings and 'mysteries' of planet earth yet. It takes a lot more than water alone for human life to exist on a very hostile planet?

Already knowing that the moon is incapable of sustaining human life, is a $79 million throwaway realy worth the 'research' (employment package) Pamylle?...

Assuming all agree that $79 million would be wasted on the homeless, the uninsured sick etc etc?...If it has to be spent on 'research' why not on how to irrigate and live in the vast unpopulated deserts or the unknown oceans (75%? of the planet we already occupy)...Why bomb the moon?
 

Daniel Barker (35)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:34 pm
Right - all you liberals, what about the billions upon billions - I think hundreds of billions - in the stimulus bills that go to pork projects?

how much money has the new president spent in Iraq? In Afghanistan? Why haven't you impeached Bush or Cheney - you haven't even arrested them.

If you had any sense, the $234,000,000 bridge in Alaska that was to serve a handful of residents represents real waste.

 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:40 pm
Mary D. You are so right. We are all entitled to express a point of view without being attacked.
Mine for what it is worth is, in the field of scientific endeavor the amount spent in terms of GDP is miniscule.
Yes it could be spent on lots of other needy projects but it was invested in science for the future.
For what reason?? It could be that we do need to colonize the moon for a myriad of reasons.
Personally I believe we need to adopt a more upbeat attitude to science and look toward positive outcomes rather than screaming "they've bombed the moon" A bit like chicken little with the sky falling down
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:43 pm
Ohhhhhhhhhh the poor moon is nothing sacred anymore???

Big Gorilly Hugs
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:48 pm
What man needs is the total evaporation of about
five billion people on this earth........That still leaves a billion or so.

One thing is for sure humans sure reclone themselves alot.

Plant trees for life........................
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:54 pm
Pppppppppfffffffffffftttttttttttt...B.M.....LOL

Gorilly
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 6:54 pm
THE MOON - Statistics:

Mass: About 1/80 that of Earth...(Tiny?)

Temperature: The temperature of the moon varies from a minimum nighttime temperature of about-260 deg.F to a maximum daytime temperature of about 250 deg. F...(Got a REALLY good aircon?)

'WE' cannot exist there, so why spend $79 million to see if there is any water there?...

I have no problem with 'research' per se, but money (we cannot afford in the current economic meltdown) spent on 'research', when we already know that the final results will be of no use to anyone other than those employed to do it, why spend it at all?
 

B. M. (99)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 7:00 pm
Gorilly......What is that???????
 

Elsie ED (229)
Sunday October 11, 2009, 11:16 pm
Well maybe they want to build another Military Base. Like they don't have enough on earth.
One never knows when those pesky Aliens are gonna get us. We must be prepared for the little green men you know.
 

Chaz Gaily Berlusconi (266)
Monday October 12, 2009, 3:47 am
Now that the oil wells are drying up... and they are bored with fighting for the last remainder... they now need to bomb the moon to look for water... riduculous to say... all that money could of being made into making desalination plants from sea water for those that do not have water... how can they take all the tax payers money and play fire crackers with it in space... a blooming shame we never got to see the display after all...
 

Joe Jones (2)
Monday October 12, 2009, 6:20 am
we can exist there is water(ice) is found in large quantities...water for growing and drinking...hydrogen for power heat...its everything we need to get started...it is inevitable that we will colonize planets/moons...its in our human blueprint to explore and branch out...might be 500 years or so but it will happen..
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:21 am
"What man needs is the total evaporation of about
five billion people on this earth........That still leaves a billion or so."
B.M. You evaporate first I'll stay here ok thanks
 

Jonathan B. (9)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:46 am
I really find the whole idea that progress is a universally glorious and wonderful thing, and all acts of knowledge gathering and science are never questionable, to be a dab too faithy for a group of scientists who mock and deny faith in anything but material reality.

The science crowd tends to put down and label as luddite, any people who question the wisdom of various acts of science, and suggest that such people just want to return to a hunter gatherer neolithic caveman society.

I tend to be skeptical of science as the new great religion of man, and even though I risk the blistering scorn of the atheist faithful, I would suggest that not all science is good science, and some borders on the arcane concept of evil science.

I can see the benefit of agriculture, animal husbandry, and orchard science to feed mankind, but I am a doubter of the value of GMO crops and animals, since much of the products of GMO science have proven toxic, and damaging to men and the environment.

I love the advances of physics, and the knowledge gained on the universe, but I am still questioning the wisdom of the CERN collider in France, and the risk of planetary destruction, while the scientists there seek to trigger a new Big Bang, or create a stable black hole on the surface of the planet.

I have yet to understand the benefit of nuclear weapons, beyond their being so toxic and fatal to the environment that no sane government has used them after the action of the U.S. against Japan in WW II.

The so called peaceful use of nuclear materials may have benefitted in nuclear medicine, but the area around Chernobyl is still lethal to anyone after long term exposure.

We have yet to come up with a safe place to put all that nuke waste that we have generated, beyond storing them at the power plants or loading them in depleted uranium missiles to poison all them "Al Quaida" in the Middle East, as the rascist Bush regime did in those demented Gulf Wars .

In almost every area of science, there seems to be a dark side, from the biowarfare weapons that arose from the same studies that created useful vaccines, and the studies of light and sound that created tools of laser surgery medicine and microwave cooking, but also infra-sound weapons and microwave beam weapons to dispurse curly anarchists who protest the war.

Bombing the moon may well bring all kinds of cool new science that will benefit mankind, or it may just provide the information for some new doomsday weapon that will threaten all life by using the moon as a weapon platform for a big old rail gun.

It may be the human blueprint to explore and branch out, but it is also in our blueprint to shoot people and blow things up.
 

Marion Y. (287)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:51 am
David B ~ BINGO! We can't afford it now. Solve issues here before moving on with exploration and testing.

Elsie ~ So true. What we are told and what is reality might be two different things.

Chaz ~ Yes, use that money to solve issues here.

Joe ~ I believe you truly believe this nonsense.

Cynthia ~ You crack me up, girlfriend!!!
 

B. M. (99)
Monday October 12, 2009, 10:12 am
Cynthia Dear:
As I stated earlier:
What man needs is the total evaporation of about
five billion people on this earth........That still leaves a billion or so.

One thing is for sure humans sure reclone themselves alot.

The world is bursting at the seams with the human race and
animals, resources from the earth are all vanishing at an alarming rate.

There is no quick fix on the horizon.........What will all our future
generations have?...............Not much or maybe nothing but
chaos & riots in the streets over a loaf of bread or a last apple!!!!!!!!!!

Plant trees fo life.......Trees provide food.......Think hard.
 

Jamie Clemons (141)
Monday October 12, 2009, 10:59 am
Bomb the earth first and then we will get the other planets later.
 

Jamie Clemons (141)
Monday October 12, 2009, 11:01 am
Well actually it is more of a crash than a bombing. There are already pleanty of craters in the moon to prove that it has been bombed by meteors and asteroids far more than what we have done.
 

Nyack Clancy (781)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:31 pm
yes but there is nothing to "prove" that all the meteor/ asteroid crateres did not strike the moon BEFORE it was set into a fixed cyclical orbit that effects our ocean tides moment by moment.

What kind of rational thinking is that? its been bombed lots before so its perfectly fine we bomb it somemore... (as if its our "god given" American birthright to blow shit up!)
 

Marion Y. (287)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:34 pm
"as if its our "god given" American birthright to blow shit up!"

It's the American way, Nyack.
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:37 pm
Okay yall heres just a thought...

I bet they knew there was water on the moon but they just wanted to be boys with a very expensive toy on a very delicate target...LOL

Just sayin...dont be hatin....

Big Goirlly Hugs
 

Bruce Anderson (30)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:48 pm
Well Davey-Boy, whatever is in store for man's future, who knows... But if we are to have one, man's future lies up there. Laying the groundworks for that voyage is all they're doing. It's the old adage, 'be sure the wagon is properly loaded before hitching the mules.'
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:56 pm
I hope they have plenty of heaters and ice on that wagon Bruce?
 

Margi L. (114)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:58 pm
Well said Pamylle!!!!
 

Be Kay (20)
Monday October 12, 2009, 1:59 pm
They just wanted to start a war they can WIN!
I believe we will be victorious over the moon!
That would be the first war we have won in a long time!
 

Susan T. (10)
Monday October 12, 2009, 2:42 pm
Well yeah! Maybe they are indeed looking for something else, like oil, plutonium, etc., cause, thinking about it, if they did find water on the moon, how are they gonna get it to someplace else????? And who wants it or needs it. I live in FL and everyday, almost, during the rainy season we get so much fresh water that we simply pump it out into the ocean.

I agree, it makes no sense. Lets wait and see what the reaction is going to be. Remember for every action there is an equal,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

David F. (0)
Monday October 12, 2009, 3:02 pm
To quote Cheech & Chong's "Sister Mary Elephant": "Class, claass, SHUUUUTTTUUUPPP! Thank you. The real problem here is the use of the word "bombed". A clip I saw online at the CSMonitor's site (from Fox News, of all places) had the anchor speaking with the attitude of (basically) "That's it?" Now, children, it's time for our little naps. BTW, when Seattle imploded the Kingdome, ESPN showed it live after which Kenny Mayne (a former Seattle sportscaster) said: "This just in. For all you soccer moms, practice at the Kingdome has been cancelled". Enjoy the rest of your day.

Dave
 

Elderberry T. (187)
Monday October 12, 2009, 4:22 pm
Hmmmm Bit late but don't you think IF they had already been to the Moon water would have been 1st on the list to check?? Dust has already been scientifically examined according to Nasa, conclusion surely has to be..another reason for this action.
 

Janet Solomon (249)
Monday October 12, 2009, 6:49 pm
I woulda gone to John Lennon's crater instead--isn't that in the 'Sea of Tranquility'?
Sheesh.
pity we can't fix our own world before starting on the others..
[or is this just the 'safety net' for the rich & powerful?]
I know I certainly wasn't asked about it-and I'm betting about 4 billion OTHERS were'nt, either.
So LET the damn dam break!
[uh yea] NAMASTE! xo
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday October 12, 2009, 6:57 pm
Ok kiddies, as this thread is almost dead and the reason for bombing the moon has not been decided, I believe that the punchline at the end of the following amusing little video EXPLAINS IT ALL!...Enjoy! :))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuCWuZPvvY


 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 7:15 pm
"B.M. You evaporate first I'll stay here ok thanks"
Cynthia that's really very funny all the more so because you said it in good humor ;)
 

B. M. (99)
Monday October 12, 2009, 7:41 pm
Merv Dear........Are you a clone playing follow the leader?
In a few years not much will be funny to any of us.

Here we can play all we want with unseen buddies
and put downs but reality will set in eventually.

Perhaps you think utopia is just around the corner
of dreams & wishful thinking.

With 6.8 billion people all over this planet I
fail to see how you think the way you do
and joke about it at the sam time. And,
bombing the moon is a far fetched way of
reaching utopia.

Plant trees for life...................
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 7:58 pm
Susan T. You, I think have come closest in my opinion to other reasons for this experiment.
What other minerals might there on the moon be that can be mined in the future.
There would be no intention to transport the water, they would just to use it to sustain lunar mining operations.
The other aspect to this of course would have to be whoever is first to set up camp and utilize lunar territory would have the right to lay claim to it as their sovereign territory.
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:22 pm
Thank you Merv, It really was meant to be in good humor.
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:29 pm
I loved the video David, Kinda sums it all up doesn't it.
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:31 pm
B.M.Sweetheart, Fairly sure I wasn't cloned. And I am not aware of having been involved in any put downs.
Utopia?... nah no such thing. (my belief or non-belief) Obviously you fail to see things the way I do, your experiences and mine have been totally different And yes I do take a light-hearted view to it all because I know I can't change it and neither can you and I don't see the point in bringing on a coronary over it.
B.M. I would encourage anyone who can make a difference to do so, but when you know it's something you have no control over, go find another cause.
B.M. Please try to steer away from believing sensational headlines. There was no bombing of the moon. There was no bomb. There was no explosive. The empty rocket crashed onto the moons surface and sent up debris which was analysed, thats it. The moon remains unaltered, it was not hurt, the moon does not have feelings.
 

B. M. (99)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:39 pm
Dear Mery...Your response made me c-r-a-c-k- u-p!!!!!!

And no kidding......I can't change much of
what is either. Sensational headlines?,
hmmmmmm, believe NASA did that!!

Glad the moon hasn't got any feelings
or all those lovers who think their in love
would be more dewy eyed than a white
tailed deer.

Thanks for the laugh.......Plant trees for life................
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 8:44 pm
Thanks David very awe inspiring video, kinda reminds us of our insignificant place in the universe.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday October 12, 2009, 10:25 pm
I'm really pleased that Cynthia and Merv took the time to watch the vid....Right on Merv, is it not about time we 'Gods of the universe' took a good look at ourselves and accepted how truly insignificant we are?...In terms of time and space we are 'nothing'!...And yet 'we' for some obscure reason believe that we are the be all and end all of everything...

Why?...I don't know but do accept that there is "bugger all intelligence on earth"...Here today, gone tomorrow and hopefully there is a little intelligence "out there". After all the "man in the moon" was here long before we got here and will be there long after we have left, although, perhaps suffering from a "black eye" (extra crater) we so mindlessly given him in our innane Quest to know everything!...'We' know nothing but how to destroy each other, wage war, ignore the poor and hungry and in the process make fools of ourselves and everything else we can...Imagine a little green alien looking down on us?..."Oh just watch these earthlings, fighting each other and knowing that they will all die shortly anyway, what a strange people they are"???

WE are obviously the only intelligent life in the universe???...

How big is the universe, how high is the sky?...I have no idea and don't really care...I have my life to live and to clutter it up with a quest for unobtainable knowledge is both a waste of time and a waste of reason...Why bother?...Life is short, let's make fun of it...
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 10:33 pm
Dear B.M. Now there you go you are laughing. I'm glad what I wrote had that effect. I hope it catches on.
No doubt the moon stimulates emotional responses in people whether it be love or madness or is that one and the same??
And I agree wholeheartedly.........Plant trees, many, many, many trees for life.
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday October 12, 2009, 11:13 pm
The moon is a balloon?...Maybe David Niven was right?...

When we contemplate the unimaginable vastness of the universe, the incredible diversity and complexity of life on Earth, the sheer tenacity of life to survive, the wonderful beauty of nature, we are filled with a sense of amazement. !3,000,000,000 years or so in the making, (well let's put a number on it, don't we always? :) and here we are, wondering why.

In this unbelievable universe, with its 100 billion? galaxies, each containing 100's of billions? of stars, we inhabit a small world circling one ordinary star. One star amongst 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.?

And we wonder why?...

We consider the processes that followed the Big Bang? how the universe cooled down as it expanded,
? how matter formed out of radiation? how gravity shaped star formation and galaxies? how stars created heavier elements? how those elements formed planets? and how life developed on at least one of those planets.

And we wonder why?...

We study the emergence of life on Earth, how asteroid impacts, volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, fire, droughts, disease, starvation, ice ages, all threaten to extinguish that life. But it survives.

And we wonder why?...

Why are we here? What is the purpose of it all?

What do I think?--------------------------------------------

The answer to life, the universe and everything, is a matter for the individual. If you really want to know what I think then here it is.

I don't believe we will ever know. The really important question for me is, why do we ask? If we knew the answer to that, the answer to the original question may be self apparent.

As I say in Is there a reason for our existence? there need not be a reason, or meaning, to any of this. Once the Big Bang? started, the stage was set and events took their course. You may ask why there was a Big Bang in the first instance, but thats just the same question. You could also ask what events took place to initiate the Big Bang, and so on. See The Big Bang Theory We can keep going back in time asking the same old question - why did this event happen? I say in Where did the universe come from? that at some point we must accept that we are going around in circles. We are looking for a 'start' to everything, the original first event, but there can not be one, it's quite simply impossible to have a first event. Its the old chicken and egg question, or if you prefer, cause and effect.

So here we are, existing in a universe that has an impossible beginning. There are two conclusions that may be drawn from this.

1) We, and the universe, do not exist. We can not prove that we exist, we just think we do. See I think, therefore I think? That being the case there is no need for any of it to make sense. We just try to make sense of it.

and/or

2), Science is unable to provide an explanation. There is no reason to believe that science will be able to explain everything.

Our understanding of the universe is restricted to the 3 physical dimensions that we happen to exist in, plus of course the dimension of time. Many theories strongly indicate that there are many more dimensions in the universe. Perhaps with an understanding of these other dimensions it will all make sense. Perhaps not. Probably not.

As I said in "Is there a reason for our existence?", everything in the universe is linked, every individual thing was formed from the Big Bang singularity. The entire universe is one, vast, complex organism. Every star, galaxy, planet, atom, person, are all inter-linked parts of the one same universe. We are the universe.

Some people will tell you that this is the very concept of what God? is, A oneness. That we are all a part of God, that we all contain God within us. See What evidence is there for God?

So the answer to the question "The meaning of life, the universe and everything?"

I believe there is no answer. We shouldn't assume that just because we can raise the question automatically means that there must be an answer. I don't believe we, or the universe, exist for a reason, we just exist.

I hope that this sets the scene for what is to follow. Open your mind and question everything, but don't expect answers. Maybe just a few opinions though, and I'm sure you have yours.

----------------------------------------------------------------

And we wonder why?...No answers?...No matter, just watch the video, it has the only 'real' answer, accept that you are you and are here and now and that "bombing the Moon is just plain silly! :)
 

David Buchan (164)
Monday October 12, 2009, 11:23 pm
THE ANSWER IS: There is no answer!..

So just accept it, go out but don't bother going to war and killing your brothers Share your food with your neighbours, smell the roses and enjoy what little life you have!...

PS: Don't give me 'God' or the Bible, Torah, Koran etc...I don't need it and (if you 'think' occassionally, nor do you?...

Peas and happiness to all! xo
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Monday October 12, 2009, 11:31 pm
David-"The moon is a balloon" Geez David give me time to digest all that.
 

B. M. (99)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 4:21 am
David wrote:
how truly insignificant we are?..
.In terms of time and space we are 'nothing'!...
And yet 'we' for some obscure reason believe
that we are the be all and end all of everything...

Sooooooo very true!!!!!!

David, if everyone thought like you there would be no wars,
less people, less dying and just less crazy ass people period!

There is a little piece on my Care2 page that explains all
this self importance so well. I'll put it my next comment.

And thank you for the tree comment......Plant trees for life...................
 

B. M. (99)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 4:25 am
May everyone share the following....................
Grand Canyon
You ever been to the Grand Canyon?
Its pretty, but thats not the thing of it.
You can sit on the edge of that big ol’
thing and those rocks… the cliffs and
rocks are so old… it took so long for
that thing to get like that… and it
ain’t done either! It happens right
there while your watching it. Its happening
right now as we are sitting here in
this ugly town. When you sit on the edge
of that thing, you realize what a joke we
people really are… what big heads we
have thinking that what we do is gonna
matter all that much… thinking that our time
here means didly to those rocks.
Just a split second we have been here,
the whole lot of us. That’s a piece of time
so small to even get a name.
Those rocks are laughing at me right now,
me and my worries… Yeah, its real humorous,
that Grand Canyon.
Its laughing at me right now.
–Simon, Grand Canyon 1991

Plant trees for life......................
 

Marty H. (74)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 4:58 am
I think the Universe(s) is/are very interesting. "The Truth is out there." However we have so many problems here on Earth right now that I don't think spending that kind of money is wise. It could have done so much good here on Earth! I also don't believe the story they gave about seeing if there is water there, lol! I also believe there is something more to this. Minerals definitely could be one option. Something to do with weather? Pissing off an alien race with bases there? I certainly don't give NASA any rewards for truth telling. It will probably all come out in the wash one day though.
 

Marion Y. (287)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 8:57 am
"And we wonder why?...No answers?...No matter, just watch the video, it has the only 'real' answer, accept that you are you and are here and now and that "bombing the Moon is just plain silly! :) "

I LOVE that video, David, and your great comment. But I disagree that there is no answer.

You see, here in the desert, everything seems bigger and strong, including the ants, to survive the harsh conditions. So watching each large ant cross the patio is easy to see. (Yes, I have alot of time on my hands and after raising children, careers and all that goes with it, I enjoy watching ants.)

Unlike the city ants which are smaller and bite people, these desert ants mind their own business as they scurry along to take food and forage the yard for flowers, sticks and things to feed the queen and the other ants, as well as build their complex network of homes beneath the ground. They eat, sleep, work, help each other, rescue each other and they don't go bombing other ants, ant homes, ant cities or the moon. They've been doing the same thing since they came into existence, and they don't seem to have the illness we humans have...the "always wanting MORE Syndrome."

Mind you, I'm careful not to step on these ants when I walk around the yard. There's not that many ants, they are so big, so it's easy to avoid them. Occasionally I step on one, but its by accident, and I am truly sorry when I do. I think they sense that I am sorry and didn't mean to.

I have a theory why city ants bite people. I remember people walking around in a mad, careless dash to and fro without any concern for the ants. I think they bite people because they don't like humans for stepping on them carelessly...sometimes on purpose. They have learned to hate people. They learned that from us. If we weren't so careless and learned to appreciate ants and what they do for the soil and the environment, maybe we could learn how to live from them.

These desert ants in my yard had never been exposed to humans before we built our home here. Because we treat them with respect, I believe they have not learned to hate us. They never try to enter our home either. They like their food, we like ours. When I sit on the patio and my bare feet touch the ground, they walk around me, just like I walk around them.

I really appreciate their seemingly simple, yet complex life. They don't compete with one another or hate each other. They seem to have a mission to serve the community and they all keep moving in that direction, for that purpose. I have seen when an ant is injured, other ants quickly rush to see where the ant is hurt, pick that ant up, carry it on their backs and take it back home.

I can only imagine if they started being selfish, self-serving, competing and hating each other and try to take what doesn't belong to them from other ant groups or planets, they would neglect their own homes and what they have worked for thus far would fall away from neglect and destruction. The selfish ants would constantly fight with the poor ants, and the ant cities would suffer. It makes me wonder how they would expect to thrive in a new home on another planet if they don't take care of the one they have.

I think I found the answer we are seeking...in the desert ants.

What does an ant city look like?
 

David Buchan (164)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 9:09 am
I do like your story of and about antics muchly Marion...Guess it simply proves that ants are far more intelligent than 'humans'...But you haven't finished it?...

........Then the 'bad ants' evolved into leemings and they all jumped off a cliif and the 'good ants' lived happily ever after! OK? :) x

 

Marion Y. (287)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 9:13 am
Oooh, I like your ending, David...
 

David Buchan (164)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 9:16 am
PS: Give my love to the desert ants (de zuuuuurt ants?)...Do they tase good?...And throw a rock over the cliff, there may be one or two survivors...If not it's not a bad idea 'cause Cheney might be hiding down there?
 

Marion Y. (287)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 9:24 am
I'll send my regards for you. :) I've heard ants are a delicacy, but I would only eat them if I was starving. But we have plenty of cactus to eat, so that wouldn't be necessary. If Cheney were hiding out here, I would hope my ant friends would eat him.
 

Laurie W. (168)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 9:45 am
Gee, Mrs Obvious are you trying to tell us that if we worked together in a common goal ( for the betterment of the colony) we would have the answer to co existing in harmony? I may not have the compatible strength of an ant but that has been my thoughts for quite awhile..and to think the answer was right at my feet...lol...Loved this ..thanks Marion and hopefully David a kinder ending would be the 'self serving ants' would finally realize at the cliff's edge that they needed the colony to save themselves...those who continued to jump just couldn't lose face, but they were really ants in looks only.
 

Marion Y. (287)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 10:26 am
Laurie ~ Thanks for understanding the ant story...co-existing in harmony...what a concept.
 

Laurie W. (168)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 10:51 am
Marion..While sitting outside with one of my grandson we were watching the array of birds feast on the food we had just supplied for them, and he was asking questions on why some just are content with eating their fill, and others come and chase off the rest to gourge themselves leaving little behind.I try to relate animal stories to how it reflects on how some people are..I then saw him pick up a small ant and pop it in his mouth, and when I asked why he said he saw someone on survivor show eating insects..' well it would take quite alot to fill your stomach' I then asked him if perhaps when an ant bites him it was just out of curiosity to see what he tasted like..the look on his face told me the dots connected.
Co-existing in harmony...now that's a change to strive for.
 

B. M. (99)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 11:30 am
Ohhhhh, the darling ants, I do admire their tenacity to survive.

Marion, perhaps you could contact the U.N. and ask if you could
tell this ant story/philosophy to all the warring countries; maybe
just maybe N. Africa, Isreal and who ever else is fighting might
lany down their arms & hug each other in brotherly/sisterly love.

It just might work.........And, then you could have all the
world as your stage & at your feet for such a brilliant analogy.

Do keep in mind the ants have known what you just told
us for thousands of years.

Plant trees for life................

 

B. M. (99)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 11:49 am
And Marion......You have a death wish upon Cheney?
Another human being!...........Awful to think such
terrible thoughts!!

And there are species of ants that do fight
an opposing species.......I believe red ants
is one of them.

Plant trees for life.........

Plant trees for life..........
 

Laurie W. (168)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 12:01 pm
B.M.
Perhaps a fable is just what the juveniles in the UN need to be told...logic,common sense,human rights & justice seem to be balls they are all fighting to claim as theirs and off limits to the weakest of our species.
 

B. M. (99)
Tuesday October 13, 2009, 1:57 pm
Laurie.......People have warred & searched for peace
for 2000 years. Do you really think in 2009 man is
suddenly going to stop warring, bombing whatever,
and gaze up at the moon in a moment of prayer
& wishes get it someway, somehow the peace
we all think we want?

Afterall it is the nature of man to explore, fight
and search for what he wants which is the rule
of thumb for survival.

Plant trees for life...............
 

Vicki Love (45)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 12:10 pm
I cannot believe that of which I have just read.

Crack the Moon? Where were you people educated? Doesn't anyone know
anithing about physics?

Hey folks, what about the human need for exploration? What about The possibility
of new industries?

Do none of you have vison? Imagination? Is that why my high school students can't
think themselves out of a paper sack.... their parents have lost the capability to dream?

I bet you all like your clean water that comes out of a facet hot or cold. I bet you like
your sewer system, air conditioner, your mode of transportation. How do you think
these things came to be? From wishing them into existence?

Grow up. $79 million would not feed the poor, stop global warming, change the global
economy.... but it might just spark an idea that can change humanities' future.
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 2:34 pm
Vicki Love, What kind of teacher are you if you would make a statement like this, "my high school students can't think themselves out of a paper sack.... " I'm sorry but that's got to be the worst thing I have ever heard a teacher say about her own students. Maybe they or their parents aren't the problem.
 

Marion Y. (287)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 3:02 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Cynthia because you have done so within the last week.

Kudos to you, Cynthia. I'm a retired college instructor AND a dreamer. However, I am also a realist and sensitive to the BOMB, BOMB, BOMB attitude of conservatives and some so-called Christians. The timing and manner of this "experiment" is wrong for reasons cited above.

Let's show some love for the moon, Love...shall we?
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 3:53 pm
I think Vicki has a very good point with kids and their lack of imagination. I'd love a dollar for every time I've heard a kid (my own included) say "I'm bored, there's nothing to do". It seems to me the TV, X-box, nintendo, PC's and a host of other electronic games have turned them into passive puppets who over time have lost the means to invent their own entertainment.
I think back to my own childhood when of course there were none of these electronics (not even TV) and I never had a single boring moment, because we did have very active imaginations.
Getting back to the moon, I wish people would see the experiment for what it was. It was not a bombing for reasons I cited earlier. It was a scientific experiment to determine whether or not water is present.
Between you and I and the gate post it was probably also to find out if there are any other resources that can be exploited. Not saying that's a bad thing, it always will be the case of first in best dressed.
 

Vicki Love (45)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 3:55 pm
Yes, yes, yes... I thought I might get a few of you riled.

I am a very good teacher, by the way.

Can anyone explain why this impact on the Moon at this particular time is wrong? I have been writing about the Moon for over 30 years. This experiement, of which that is all it is, an experiement, should have been done by NASA 35 years ago. There was no bomb exploded. There was nothing more than an impact to throw up some dust so some measurements could be done. How is this wrong?

College instructor? Nice. I hope your students appreciated the dreamer in you.

And Cynthia, if that is the worst thing you have ever heard come from a teacher then you are very, very lucky.

Our students need to know the difference between something real and an emotional fabrication. I try to teacher reality, scientific method, pragmatism, yet our students cannot make these connections.

How do you propose they connect to the real world when people are running around saying a little experiement is actually going to hurt the Moon? The Moon doesn't have feelings. Its a huge rock formed into a sphere by gravity. It has impacts upon its surface weekly. We need to understand its true composition if we are to eventually put people on it.

I dream of the human race progressing. We are, at the moment, standing still. The pause button needs to be released.
 

B. M. (99)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 4:25 pm
Vicki.......Man has progressed to the point where
we are just a minute away from self annialation
because of all the seemingly brilliant things our
overly intelligent brains have invented, discovered
and developed!!!!!

The cave man should have stayed a caveman
because there would not be 6.8 billion of us
and the animals would own the land, sea and
the air.

Man has robbed all of what once was a beautiful
place because of one facet of our being..........

GREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plant trees for life.......................
 

David Buchan (164)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 4:55 pm
"I try to teacher reality"...I try to TEACH reality, teacher!...4/10...

$79 million may not be your idea of enough to feed the poor but I'm sure the poor would disagree and benefit from it much more than us having the "knowledge" that there is, is not, water on the moon?
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Wednesday October 14, 2009, 6:33 pm
Vicki Love you write ...
"Do none of you have vison? Imagination? Is that why my high school students can't
think themselves out of a paper sack.... their parents have lost the capability to dream?"
Then you write....
"Our students need to know the difference between something real and an emotional fabrication. I try to teacher reality."
It seems to me that you need to make up your mind what it is your teaching before you talk about how they can't think their way out of a paper sack. Are you teaching them to have vision and imagination or realism. You seem to be confused about what you want from them. My guess is they probably have more imagination then you do. Most likely even as young as they are they probably have sense enough to know we are in a depresstion and this was not the best time for spending this amount of money and like David said It might not be your idea of alot of money but I betcha your sudents,( "that can't think their way out of a paper sack,") know just how much it is. And no it wasn't the worst thing I have ever heard from a teacher but it was still a pretty nasty thing to say and if I was one of their parents you would definitely be hearing from me. Making a statement like that make me believe that you don't seem mature enough to be teaching, or maybe you have just been around teens so long you are feeling superior enough to put them down.
 

Vicki Love (45)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 9:34 am
Thank you all for the personal attacks... shows just what sort of people hang around this place.

If you are really concerned with young people and teens then I suggest you go to your local high school and volunteer your time. The students could really use your help. There are many ways to volunteer and being a tutor would, as it looks on this page, be a natural for most of you.

Instead of criticising you should be asking me questions like... why do I think the way I think? Why did I make the statement I made. You that have nothing but criticism in your hearts should look at yourselves before turning your sarcasm my way. I know exactly what my statement has to say about me because its a silly little metaphor we use as a warm-up lesson. The students get a real kick out of it. :)

Now...

Everyday I go to a job where kids depend on me to be present, to teach them even when they are hungry or ill or tired (by no fault of their own). Before you criticsize you should dig a little deeper. Don't be so shallow. Do you know how many of my student's parents are in prison? on drugs? How many of my students live in foster homes or group homes, or how many are pregnant or already have children at the age of 15??

Think before pointing your finger.
 

Cynthia Davis (249)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 12:08 pm
Nicki Love, "I know exactly what my statement has to say about me because its a silly little metaphor we use as a warm-up lesson."
Are you tell us that you start your class by telling your sudents "they can't think their way out of a paper sack", and you want us to believe they think it's funny? I don't think I need to dig deeper. Reading your last paragraph tells me that you have a superior attitude and it appears that you are the one that is shallow considering your take on your sudents parents. And your assumption that we don't volunteer our time to our children or teach them reality is a insult and It apperars to me you are the one with criticism in your heart. Try to develop some heart and maturity for your students and their parents sake and stop insulting them.
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 1:36 pm
I have to agree with much of what Vicki post in her last comment.

Kids run & makes their own rules in life in todays world.
Again & again I comment on the murder of that young man.........
.The obvious question is what kind of parenting did these kids get?
And the parenting skills in todays world ranks near the bottom
compared to say 50/100 years ago.

And the kids Vicki referred to as not being able to fight their way
out of a paper bag is ment more so scholastically than physically.
Those kids in Chicago & other places like it can knock your head
off in a heartbeat because they were never shown how to think before
making a move.

There is no way I'd ever want to be a teacher for one simple reason,
the parents ecpect all the childs learning to begin & end in a
classroom.........If anything it begins at home first!!!!!!

Plant trees for life....................
 

David Buchan (164)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 2:38 pm
Anyone remember the Moon?
 

Joe Jones (2)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 4:42 pm
you cant stop human nature and the need to explore and expand...it will go on forever and we will eventually colonize many moons and planets...like evolution it cannot be stopped...we left africa...that was the start...
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 6:32 pm
I agree Joe, onwards and upwards. It is not just our planet, it is our universe.
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 6:51 pm
David........I do remember the moon!! LOL

Man & people have a way of starting a conversation
on any one subject & pretty soon we end up on another
subject altogether..............Another planet? G.R.I.N.

Plantttrees for life......On Earth...............Maybe on the moon? What a trip!!
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 7:19 pm
Great idea B.M. If there is water on the moon, plant trees, transfer CO2 along with some nitrogen from earth, the trees will produce oxygen and there you have it. An atmosphere and a forested green moon.
Hang on I think there's a flaw in there..........gravity?? Oh well back to the old drawing board.
Let me see Archimedes once said.......................
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 7:33 pm
Merv Dear......You crack me up!
But, you never know there may be some
earth dirt underneath all that dead rock &
boulder smolder just waiting for tree seeds,
any seeds. If so, lets hope our intelligence
stays just dumb enough to leave well
enough alone like we should have Mother Earth.

Maybe we all should ponder deeply our moon
ventures, sit around a camp fire muching on Mars bars.

Plant trees for life...............On earth.................
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 7:37 pm
Merv and BM couldnt we just magnatize it and have magnets on the bottom of our shoes????

Gorilly????
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 7:54 pm
Hey Gorilly, the problem is having enough gravity to keep the newly created atmosphere hanging around.
I know!!!, we could accelerate the moons rotation by firing strategically placed rockets to increase its' gravitation, thereby,.................. uh darn it that may also pull the earth and moon together.
Hey, now there's an idea, what if we.............................
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 7:57 pm
lol....aaaaaaaaa wow I think I would get sick if it went to fast...OH it might sling us off too???

Goirlly
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:05 pm
Goirlly, don't want to make you dizzy but mother earth rotates at just over 1000 miles per hour and hurtles round the sun at 67,000 miles per hour. No wonder we sometimes feel a bit queezy.
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:06 pm
Ppppppppppppppfffffffffttttttttt is that why???? Wooooooooooowwwwwwwww didnt know...thnks though I know now...LOL

Big Gorilly Hugs
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:14 pm
Just to make it more interesting our galactic velocity is 630 km per second.
When you think about it, it's one heck of design
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:16 pm
Or one large mixing bowl with lots of goodies in it.....

Big goirllyHgus
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:18 pm
Is the center of the moon magnetic?

Plant trees for life......................
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:22 pm
Although there would be no dire consequences (that I know of) if the moon were somehow removed I get a feeling we would all feel a bit lonelier. Our big rocky security blanket.
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:24 pm
B.M. Sweetheart, The short answer is no , the longer answer is........... longer.
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:33 pm
There is some remnant magnetism left over from the time when the moon had an active dynamo within its' core, but that is thought to be slowly eroding. (at the same rate the cheese is expanding.)
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:42 pm
I think the moons spinning & grinning is making
all three of us goofy or drunk!

Plant trees for life............
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:46 pm
Or its all that nanner juice I keep puttin down...LOL Or just maybe the moons affect on me????

Big gorilly Hgus
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:47 pm
Mervy........I'm going to sleep well tonight
because it is raining & you have me cracking up!!

Plant trees for life......................
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:51 pm
Nanner juice? What on earth is that?

Bananas?

Plant a banana tree.(nanner)..........And a slice of swiss (moon) cheese.

 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:54 pm
Yes BM its banana juice....LOL Did the old man in the moon make the cheese????

Gorilly
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:55 pm
David......Forgive us for turning
your post into a comedy club here.

Gorillys' been passing out that damned nanner
jjuice and we are just all slap happy over the moon.

Plant trees for life....................
 

David Buchan (164)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:55 pm
Does anyone remember sanity and common sense?
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:58 pm
David.....When was the last time you read
anything on Care2 as simple minded & laughing
all over the place like this?

Plant trees for life...................
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 8:59 pm
My sanity is gone david...lol Common sense I think that flew too...sorry..

Big gorilly Hugs

I will go night night now...

Your thread is to fun...
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 9:02 pm
nighty night
 

B. M. (99)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 9:02 pm
David......Been great fun for a change.

Good night & eat swiss cheese & plant trees for life.......................
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 9:12 pm
David, the problem with common sense is it is relatively uncommon.
And sanity is matter of interpretation and court room battles
Could you please pass the nanner juice and cheddar.
 

David Buchan (164)
Thursday October 15, 2009, 10:17 pm
Go back to bed Merv, midnight snacks are out for you and the other naughty kids...Off to sleep now kidlets all...Tomorrow is another day...

Back to the moon...
 

Vi S. (2)
Friday October 16, 2009, 10:35 am
we sort of "discussed" this in geo last week, but from what i gathered, the moon is supposedly one of the driest areas in the solar system. i understand why scientists want to find water on our own moon, but it's not a good time to fund such a mission, what with all hell breaking loose over here.
 

Ellyn S. (17)
Friday October 16, 2009, 7:10 pm
The word I have is that they were endeavouring to destroy an underground base on the moon that they did not want to have discovered. Well, they failed. Notice how the TV pictures disappeared at the time it was due to impact the moon?
 

Merv Gillespie (15)
Friday October 16, 2009, 8:11 pm
Ellyn S. Just interested, Where did you get "the word" from.
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Friday October 16, 2009, 8:14 pm
HUH???? Underground base????

Big Gorilly Hugs
 

B. M. (99)
Friday October 16, 2009, 8:20 pm
Ohhhhhh, I know what NASA was after!!

Matians have a hidden swiss chees factory
and NASA was pissed the martians got there first!!
And, these martian were going to label the holy cheese
imported.

Plant rees for life.........................
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Friday October 16, 2009, 8:24 pm
Ppppppppppppfffffttttttttttttttt...lol Niw that is classic B.M. Ohhhhhhhh Davids gonna run out of here for sure....LOL

Big gorilly Hgs
 

David Buchan (164)
Friday October 16, 2009, 9:01 pm
I'm not going anywhere Gorilly, but is there someting wrong with a sensible discussion?
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Friday October 16, 2009, 9:03 pm
Were busted guys...LOL David we love you you know that right???? Why do you think we gravitate to YOUR post????

Big goirlly Hgus
 

David Buchan (164)
Friday October 16, 2009, 9:10 pm
"Gravitate" by all means Gorilly but please do not descend. Go and leave such a heavy footprint on the far side of the moon...'We' won't see it there...
 

Gorilly Girl (369)
Friday October 16, 2009, 9:23 pm
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to David because you have done so within the last week.

Gorilly walks softley But Gives Big Gorilly Hugs...nighty night...
 

Christoph Wuth (74)
Saturday October 17, 2009, 7:49 am
The Earth as seen by aliens: "On one hand there are over one billion people starving here; on the other hand a few million are so, but so rich that they don't know what to do with all their wealth, so they proceed to bomb their moon!"
 

B. M. (99)
Saturday October 17, 2009, 8:04 am
Christoph.........The answer is so simply to all those hungry
souls........Feed em' then get them on birth control.

When you feed hunry people they tend to have more children
if they are not taught (education) to have less children to feed
and the world surely doesn't need more.

Right now there are 6.8 billion on this planet & counting!!!!!!

Plant trees for life.......................
 

Anumpeshi Aduddell (201)
Sunday October 18, 2009, 10:22 am
Grandmother Moon,Father Sun/Hashi Inkba/Stars and the mansions of planets are there children
My heart is in slumber and i ask the great spirit of the universe,to please awaken all mankinds hearts
I know not why the barbaric behaviours on planet earth have been exceedingly infiltratred into mans minds, or why this has been allowed for another race to supercede our own planet with evil and darkness,man is an illumed spirit,man has forgotten his divinity of heart and lost himself to greed,man has also been used as experiments and enslavement,they are useing the divide and conquer method on families, and in Wars.Until mankind remembers to live with heart,giving and replenishing,we are killing all that is beauty, all that is magnificent and all the wonder and miracles that we were created to be.We are as the stars,born to shine and sparkle,thru the gifts of the Devine.Supporting our community as One,each child is everyones responsibility,every tree,every bee,every gift from the animal kingdom,mustangs,tigers,elephants and dolphins,we must become as One,loving with compassion for all lifes breath on our Earth Mother
 

Winefred M. (74)
Tuesday October 20, 2009, 9:05 am
Noted and read and I do think that everyone of you have a point.
 
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