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Are We the Martians of the Twenty First Century, and Is the War in Afghanistan Fun?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: war, iraq, afghanistan, pakistan, iran, north korea, crime, abuse, lies, money, money money, greed, military, death, media, dishonesty, flying saucers, pigs will fly, propaganda, politics, troops, ethics )

David
- 39 days ago - motherjones.com
After almost eight years of war, only now does the danger that we might "look increasingly like occupiers" rise to the surface. Since "occupier" is a role Americans just can't compehend. Let's agree that we are aliens, intent on destroying the planet?
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Laurie W. (161)
Friday October 16, 2009, 4:52 am
The WE club- collective bodies with one mind..no thanks I prefer to do my own thinking
 

Huda A. (40)
Friday October 16, 2009, 4:52 am
Hmmm! there is a word for that which i don't like to use too often, other wise it lose it effect!
WTF!
Peace to earth! Namaste!
 

David Buchan (164)
Friday October 16, 2009, 5:01 am
Think about it for a moment, especially since it's a commonplace of American reporting from the region and so reflects official thinking on the subject. Karen DeYoung and Pamela Constable, for instance, write in a Washington Post piece: "Pakistanis, who are extremely sensitive about national sovereignty, oppose allowing foreign troops on their soil and have protested U.S. missile attacks launched from unmanned aircraft against suspected Taliban and al-Qaeda targets inside Pakistan." In fact, let's reverse the situation.

Imagine that, after the next Katrina, Pakistani military helicopters based on a Pakistani aircraft carrier in the Gulf of Mexico are preparing to deliver supplies to New Orleans. Of course, you also have to imagine, minimally, that the Pakistanis are in the process of building a three-quarters of a billion dollar fortress of an embassy in Washington D.C. (to be guarded by armed Pakistani private contractors), that Pakistani drones are regularly cruising the Sierra Nevada mountains, launching missiles at residences in small towns below, that the Pakistanis are offering billions of dollars in desperately needed aid to a hamstrung American government and military in return for not complaining too much about whatever they might want to do in the United States, that top Pakistani military and civilian officials are constantly shuttling through Washington demanding "cooperation," and finally that Pakistani reporters covering all this regularly point to an "extreme American sensitivity about national sovereignty," as illustrated by a bizarre unwillingness to accept Pakistani aid delivered in Pakistani military helicopters. Then again, you know those Americans: combustible as spoiled kids.

Such reversals are, of course, inconceivable and so, nearly impossible to imagine. Today, were a Pakistani military helicopter to approach the U.S. coast with anything on board and refuse to turn back, it would undoubtedly be shot down. So much for American touchiness.

But here's a question that comes to mind: Why is it that Americans seem to feel so at home so far away from home? Why, for instance, do U.S. military spokespeople so regularly refer to our indigenous enemies in Iraq as "anti-Iraqi forces," and in Afghanistan as "anti-Afghan forces"? Why does our military in Iraq speak of the neighboring Iranians as "foreign forces" without ever including our own military in that category?

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Why are 'we' there at all?
 

ON VACATION Please Hold Mail (338)
Friday October 16, 2009, 5:22 am
What if we send all the "squatters" we have in this country who can't afford houses anymore to become paid "occupiers" over there? Two birds with one stone! Might not be as safe, but who says it's any safer here in the US?

Oh, and any tracking we do over there by non-manned "spaceships", aren't we already doing through Google Maps?? :))
 

Huda A. (40)
Friday October 16, 2009, 6:02 am
Good question! i lost the plot actually in the midth of blood and goar!! why do they need to dirty their hands any way? they have satellites and they have missiles which can reach to the moon! so they are bringing love , and democracy to the savage? what for? why can't they just spray them , with some black pox and finish them once and for all, so they can sing the hills are alive with the sound of our Plans?
I guess am starting to lose my mind or start hallucinating trying to make sense out of this madness!
as peace says , we can locate them on google maps! or may be they can give the afghan a green card! and they move the pentagon to afghanistan? what are they searching for any way? can any one answer me please? what are we looking for? a gang of cave men? who have a sling and gun?
 

Amena A. (109)
Friday October 16, 2009, 10:09 am
Obscene. "Our" (American political/military/citizen) point-of-view in this piece frightens the hell out of me. It is too real. We are the Martians and we should bloody well go home and leave all our neighbors alone. I am a mouse, squeaking defiance at the lions.
 

Huda A. (40)
Friday October 16, 2009, 10:48 am
Amena!
You are not a mouse! and if you let them make you feel that way! then they have won the game! that is the whole idea, to make us all feel helpless and insignificant! to put the fear in our veins ! even a mouse has got power to be a mighty mouse! its not muscles its intelligence! keep your head up Sis!
peace be with you! Namasté
 

David Gould (146)
Friday October 16, 2009, 5:04 pm
Sorry if you have seen this one before but it is relevant here as it was before:-

Impersonal Death

This new war from the air
when remote death comes
unexpected without warning
it is the new drone of war.
They call this the Predator
as hovering death waits
to fire Hellfire Missiles
and depart without a trace.

This they say is not invasion
it is just a pilotless drone
guided by someone far off
sitting just outside Las Vegas.
It is they that fly these craft
and they guide it to a target
and they push the button
to unleash the instant end.

And with Predator comes
another just as deadly
daintily called the Reaper
with its ever so precise bomb
to scatter its human harvest
over desert hill and town.
We have all become targets
in someone else’s warfare.

David Gould © 26th November 2008
 

Chaz Gaily Berlusconi (250)
Friday October 16, 2009, 11:11 pm
Sherbet... I'm getting an identity crisis... firstly I am an infidel, now I am occupier.. oh boy.. who needs a name change when you can have em all...
 

Raymond S. (23)
Saturday October 17, 2009, 10:47 am
Can you spot the hypocrite?
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 17, 2009, 11:33 am
No, whoizzit?
 

Daniel Barker (2)
Saturday October 17, 2009, 1:37 pm
David, you are right. The U.S. wants to protect foreign oil. Obama promised to do something about it - his "Stimulus bill" was supposed to spend billions on transporation to get Americans out of their car.

Sadly, the Republicans have the last laugh. In reality, the Stimulus Bill has turned out to mostly be special-interest spending, including in specific areas beneficial to key Democrats such as Speaker Pelosi.

But people are seeing the light. Electric and hybrid cars are on the market, which means the beginning of the end of petroleum. And Americans rode bicycles to work last year when octane skyrocketed.

 
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