Tuesday October 20, 2009, 9:46 pm
"Our Holy Father" is full of holes but his wallet, obviously, is not...

The money spent on re-guilding the icons and furniture in the Vatican (the smallest country in the world) would feed a comparably sized third world country for life...But no, let's recruit a few Anglicans and make more money to guild the lilly...Who cares about the poor and starving?...They have nothing to give us???

Tuesday October 20, 2009, 9:50 pm
You cannot currently send a star to David because you have done so within the last week.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 4:22 am
...bringing in the sheeps, bringing in the sheeps...

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 4:23 am
Since most of those who are unhappy with the notion of Female Priests and openly gay Bishops are Conservative Evangelicals who view Rome as one step from Hades I don't think this bid is going to fall on fertile ground...but there again stranger things have been known.

Personally I am for Interfaith Interventions in its widest format...I am a believer first and way down my list is the institutional body to which I belong.

And yes I believe that Human Rights was pretty high on Christ's list of priorities as well and he would have viewed the wealth of the church with some disdain and overturned their money tables.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 4:47 am
Hm mm! that is highly interesting move! so the church collecting her lost sheep's! and the Governments are collecting all those who have strayed out of colonel system, and creating unions, the European union , the mediterranean union, the Asian union, the African union , all church union, and then what about we join each other in a big happy union and become one world order! very clever indeed, so we are all under the same sovereignty and we are all equal slave in the land! hallelujahs!
Namaste !
P.s discount on chains! 50 % off!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 6:06 am
Sarah Silverman has a solution for the Pope

As for me, I'm concerned about those dark circles under his eyes. He almost looks demonic...

Thanks, David!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 6:16 am
That is brilliant Marion! if he sell the Vatican, i will send him a pair of angel wings, and a sleep mask to hide the dark circles under his arms, and a good washing powder to wash his blood stains hand with it! beauty kit so to say! :))

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 6:55 am
C'mon kiddies, you know I love you just the way you are but this thread is deadly serious...*says he, having burst out laughing and spurted coffee all over his keyboard*...SERIOUS!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 6:59 am
Ah yes, David (clearing throat)...and where may the flock go to whence leaving the Church?

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 7:02 am
They can go to hell for all I care Marion, out of sight, out of mind? :)

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 7:31 am
Marion! they have made a special camp for them where they can't touch the choir boys!the Ex holy men Club!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 8:25 am
Where do they get off at.....Hmmm I think I've seen and read to much to not have the answer..
Must be the weather as all I have going through my head right now is my lyrics to Brick in the wall....'We don't need no religious teaching..just leave our kids alone'...good thing I don't have to sing it for all of you, as that's not one of my better talents.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 9:34 am
It's OK Laurie, Floyd did it for you but thanks for the comment...

Just another brick in the wall?...

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 1:45 pm
they've got dead baby bones behind those bricks -they are the true abominations to yahshua's teachings -false prophets "buy your forgiveness here no need to t'shuvah" -when actually NO religion is needed to live according to the scriptures if it is ones will to do so.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 6:49 pm
Hi Huda,
you wrote: "Hm mm! that is highly interesting move! so the church collecting her lost sheep's! and the Governments are collecting all those who have strayed out of colonel system, and creating unions, the European union , the mediterranean union, the Asian union, the African union , all church union, and then what about we join each other in a big happy union and become one world order! very clever indeed, so we are all under the same sovereignty and we are all equal slave in the land! hallelujahs!
Namaste !
P.s discount on chains! 50 % off!"

Hmmm... I agree with your stance against colonialism, oppression, exploitation, etc..

However, you have made some untrue claims about this issue - and you have not shown any evidence for those claims....

In the real world, the capitalist class (owners of private corporations, which control the world's economy) already have control. They don't need any "world government" or whatever, in order to maintain and increase their wealth and power, to everyone else's detriment.

In the real world, the imperialist countries (the countries of the first world) already dominate the Third World, and reap a net flow of U.S.$500 billion in wealth from the Third World each year, which impoverishes the peopleof the Third World to such an extent that 3 billion people are living onless than U.S.$2.50 per day, about 1 billion people are malnourished, about 1 billion people don't have access to clean drinking water, and about 11 million children die each year from poverty, because privileged people (mainly in the first world) take more than they need, buying cars, big houses, big TVs, going out to restaurants and cafes, buying new clothes regularly, paying money for taxis, paying thousands of dollars to travel in airplanes, etc....

And in the real world, yes the European Union is both a system of unity, which brings Europe together and reduces nationalist conflicts within Europe, and also a system by which the corporations can increase their power and exploitation of Europe's working class... BUT the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, African Union, MercoSur, and especially UnaSur (Union of South American Nations), ALBA, PetroCaribe and PetroSur, are unions of the countries of Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean which unite Third World countries, so that they can resist the first world's imperialism, end U.S. hegemony, and bring about a multi-polar world, in which countries are much more equal, and there is much less invasions by the USA,and much less economic exploitation of the Third World by the first world!!!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 11:08 pm
Marion, excellent, as usual. I loved the Sarah Silverman link, thx.

Yes, David, to the point.

I hadn't heard this til now. I feel like, omg, what next? (control yourself, girl, careful what you ask for) The far reaching implications, and strategies?, that would motivate this are making my brain bounce around in it's pan, damn. And I for sure can't come up with a good and positive motivation.

So, in a clumsy attempt to sum it up, and aside from the power, money, greed influence, it looks as though 'somebody' has determined the very likely possibility that 'they've' lost control and the holy war (and really anything but, oxymoron) becomes something of a probability. So what do you do? Direct your minions to find a way to incorporate large 'made to order' contingencies, increase your numbers exponentially.

Which, quick on 'they're' feet as they are, manages to even more elegantly facilitate 'their' goal. They've pretty much provided what 'they' need, we're resource sucking expendables. Sorry, I wish that I could hear this with hope and with joy, but I see better.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 1:29 am
Many catholic priests have molested children.Catholic churches are going bankrupt all over the country.They cannot afford to pay the price of their corruption and lies.Millions of dollars have been paid out to these sexually abused children.The church has covered up for the molesters for years.Where are the women in these churches?There are none.It is a cult of pedophiles.Jesus Christ never lived in his own "city".He was poor and loved the children.He would have nothing to do with the catholic church if he was here.Sarah Silverman is right,and they would never sell the Vatican.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 1:38 am
Hi Simon!
"I agree with your stance against colonialism, oppression, exploitation, etc.. However, you have made some untrue claims about this issue - and you have not shown any evidence for those claims."
UNTRUE? and Evidence? do you have a few days to go and search what i can give you of evidence?
evidences are all over the place if you care to look at them i can give you evidence!
Both system socialist and capitalist are born from the same group WHO is out to contain all of us in a big animal farm to collect the produce! its a small hand full of people , like Mr Rockefeller and Rothschild and there friends, who are working the world Order! if you stop defending your Agenda and look at the big pic you will see what is going on, that is all i can say for now! i can't spoon feed you, I can point out what i know and i see around me! stand on a mountain top have a Bird eye view, and see for your self! its not my Job to preach to the masses, that is brain washing! am talking about what i see and gather from all this so called unions which is sprouting Like mushrooms, they start with trade agreement , and slowly slowly they are turning of government system! look for your self my friend! THINK for your self ! no one can think for you!
Or you are waiting to have the chip implanted on you and you have the shackles for free! they started already the introduction of the chip for medical reasons! in TV advertisements, so its under your nose every time you put the monster On, we are giving it to you because we care! next we put your Bank account on it to save your the trouble to Cary your visa card! then we are putting your civil data and criminal record, so you can travel easy visa free any where and not lose you passport! then we can zap you when you miss behave and block you money when you are not a good boy follow what we tell you , and you can run but no where to hide!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8nxtStLvXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QkkMTHEfFY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDhDrFrs7as&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD3O4qZcwEk&feature=player_embedded
Namasté

Thursday October 22, 2009, 10:41 am
The Episcopal Church (the Anglican Church in the US) entered into "full communion" with the ELCA (the largest Lutheran denomination) almost 10 years ago and this caused no large number of priests or clergy moving from one to the other nor outflows of money. It did make it easier to find a church in which to worship when moving or traveling. This doesn't seem to me to be that big of a deal.

Friday October 23, 2009, 11:23 am
Lets not mock God... there are good churches where the true followers follow.. those that are spirit filled and live by the spirit, big big different to the relgious letter that comes out of the Roamn catholic church, so do not lump these two different - very differnt goups together... Also don't let man's sin.. be an accuse for pointing fingers at the church as a whole.. God never condones molestation... that is a lustful sin that those people need to deal with...