Wednesday October 21, 2009, 9:22 pm
If troops are NEEDED in Afganistan, they MUST be sent. Until the decision is made to take EVERYONE home.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 9:45 pm
"If troops are NEEDED in Afganistan, they MUST be sent"...

Would you also send 40,000 body bags with them and coffins for the civilian 'co-lateral damage' WC? (Just in case)...

TAKE ACTION, BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 11:55 pm
40,000 more troops? No, I don't think so! I do get that O is having to play multi-dimensional chess, but no one is infallible. I accept that he negotiates the insanity of the situation with a consistently focused vision of the goals he hoped that he could be instrumental in actualizing.

But, I guess if I had to deal with it, with the weight of freakin' 'everything' on my shoulders, I'd absolutely change strategies. I'd strip the troops to bare bones, to basically a presence. I'd ramp up an augmented and expanded special forces corps (purpose should be obvious), provide sensibly ample humanitarian aid, and then, pray to the goddess that we'd all get a goddamn grip!

Or, we of like enlightened mind, could do the ultimate meld, and heal the insanity. It's still an option...

Thursday October 22, 2009, 12:46 am
We should all have in mind that this is a PEACE WAR!

Thursday October 22, 2009, 3:28 am
Peace war? Ben would you care to explain, please, or do you mean after all is dead it will be peace?

Thursday October 22, 2009, 6:48 am
"PEACE WAR" is irony (or sarcasm), the best explanation I can come up with...OK?
Yesterday I heard from a trustworthy source:
"This war is impossible to win"
That's what I think too.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 6:56 am
Thanks Buddy! i thought you do! only wanted to hear your view, in few words more that is all; of course i know what you mean! the Irony is that the Good guys, have put them self in a deep pit, which they thought it would be piece of cake, they didn't know the native savage, are just that, they know their Hills well, can you imagine! 2 Vietnam in the same time?! WOW!!

Thursday October 22, 2009, 9:22 am
I agree with Wild Cat. If we are not opting to get our men and women out of there and calling it a day. If the people running the show determine we need more men and women or resources. I feel you have to do it for the safety of those there already. While peace obviously is preferable. We are there now. If we are staying, we must support our troops in anyway needed. It is unfortunate. About body bags, I can only hope that won't be the case.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 9:49 am
"If the people running the show determine we need more men and women or resources. I feel you have to do it for the safety of those there already"...

Additional cannon fodder is adding to the "safety" of those already there?...

Send more body bags...

Thursday October 22, 2009, 10:02 am
I think the best action is to get out, if not, go fully in. Half assed ain't going to get our boys and girl's home any sooner and certainly not in one piece.

Have a good day, David. As always it's a pleasure :)

Thursday October 22, 2009, 6:43 pm
the surge worked in iraq and will work in afghanastan....with pakistan taking the fight to the taliban/al-queda we must take advantage and give the taliban/al-queda no chance to regroup....if the general says he needs more troops then for gods sake give him what he needs...this war can be one against the taliban/al-queda by working with the afghan gov. and tribal leaders and average afghan women(who does not want the taliban back in power for obvious reasons)....people understand we are not in afghanastan to conquer and domonate but too root out the extremists(al-queda) and work with the afghans to set up a democracy and give them freedoms they could only dream of under the taliban....we can not let al-queda regroup inside afghanastan and mount new and more vicious attacks at will against the U.S....give the general what he needs and the troops will come home sooner vs later(and not in bodybags like david hopes)..we have no choice but to fight and win this war because al-queda and their extremist friends will never stop trying to kill innocent americans(their favorite target)..easy for david making these posts since he lives thousands of miles from N.Y.C

Thursday October 22, 2009, 6:51 pm
"the surge worked in iraq"...What absolute rubbish!...How pathetic can pathetic be Joe?...Do you ever engage your brain before putting your keyboard into gear?

Thursday October 22, 2009, 7:44 pm
You are absolutely right, Joe. The surge did work in Iraq and I agree that if the general on the ground in Afghanastan says that he needs reinforcements to win this war, he should get them. Its time that the community organizer stops voting "present" and make a decision.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 8:24 pm
It's easy to say No more troops when you don't have a loveed one serving.Or had one who has served if Pres Obama doesn't make his pea brain up soon.More of our children will die!! & you can all thank him. hy do you think we're safe it's b/c our children are fighting to keep us this way. Let's get real here.Mom of a Vet

Thursday October 22, 2009, 8:54 pm
"It's easy to say No more troops"...Certainly is...And about time the warmongering, people slaughtering idiots among us realised that the unwinnable war was over before it started, bit their tongues in enlightenment and demanded that their child soldiers be brought home before they, too, are dead?

Thursday October 22, 2009, 9:13 pm
David, I know you are passionate about this and that is very commendable. Those of us stating a different opinion, may not be doing so just to be warmongering. There are so many facets to this whole situation. My main issue presently with this situation is if they are going to leave it as status quo, our men and women will certainly suffer bigger casualities. Either pull out or get it done. I am not in to the whole nation building aspect of this. If the people truly want it and our aid helps them to that end terrific. I don't see it ending that way though. I see us pulling out and it going back to the Taliban rule. I feel for those who suffer under that rule, however, I don't think that is my decision to make. Unfortunately, I don't think those people have much power to stop it either. The whole situation is beyond sad. What is the best answer for everyone in the long run. I think I know what you would say....leave! Me, I am just not sure that is the way to go at this point.

Friday October 23, 2009, 12:29 am
I won't leave you Suzanne, before I'm happy that you are not barking up the wrong tree...The MAJORITY of the Afghan people DO NOT WANT the US/NATO occupation to continue!...So why are 'we' there at all?...

BRING HOME THE TROOPS NOW and don't send any more to kill or be killed!

Friday October 23, 2009, 12:45 am
I signed this petition at my private e-mail.
I'm way past trying to deal wth Joe,
so I'll leave it to you, Grigori.
Thanks for the post!
noted..

Friday October 23, 2009, 3:58 am
Did the surge work in Iraq? Wait and see; study your history. Military "conquest" never achieved a lasting result in that area. You have merely tied down the safety valve so wait for the explosion. Your puppet government will not survive.
Similarly Afghanistan has never been subdued. If you send a million more and fight for decades you will never achieve success.
How naive can you be? Bin Laden is not skulking in a cave. His supporters number many thousands, if not millions, who see him as a modern-day Robin Hood opposing the wicked Sheriffs of Washington. He is sitting on a verandah somewhere, sipping fruit juice and planning his next moves. Many governments pay lip-service to the U.S.-led campaigns, but know that their lives would be at risk if they move against him. See what is happening in Pakistan. All is being destabilised in nations where "foreign devils" have interfered. Leave them to resolve their own problems; nothing imposed by alien forces will ever last. Bring home your troops immediately and stop the futile slaughter; it will not be a defeat but rather a triumph for commonsense.

Friday October 23, 2009, 6:11 am
I support getting our troops OUT, I do NOT support leaving them there to die, GET THEM OUT, GET THEM OUT, GET THEM OUT!!! If Obewan is unwilling to do that.. then he MUST send them the back up they need! The thing is he must do SOMETHING!! NOT just sit there while the troops that are there come home by the dozen in body bags, while he sends troops INTO AFRICA to secure oil that does not even BELONG to the U.S.!!!!!:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/514833197/1284220

There is something very wrong with ANYBODY that would not send troops where they are needed, while they are sending troops ELSEWHERE that they have absolutely NO BUSINESS BEING!!!

Friday October 23, 2009, 10:54 am
There are many facets to a diamond and only one way to cut it... this whole situation requires precision and careful dialogue... troops cannot just be pulled out at the click of th fingers without putting in a plan of action... i toooooo do not want the guys and gals there.. but there again those that have died would die in vain if one was to pull out and leave the ship unmanned.. this would create the PERFECT STROM...