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An Atheist's Review of the Book of Genesis Illustrated By a Legendary Comics Artist


Society & Culture  (tags: bible, god, genesis, charles darwin, death, crime, conflict, politics, terrorism, violence, war, society, culture, education, humans, religion, sadness, society, crime, death, family, ethics )

David
- 28 days ago - alternet.org
This isn't Beatrix Potter here. It's more like "Dangerous Liaisons" by way of Quentin Tarantino. With tents, sand, and sheep. It's true what they say. Sometimes, a picture really is worth a thousand words, especially when those words come from the Bible.
Comments

Ralph Sutton (45)
Wednesday October 28, 2009, 7:06 pm
Now that sounds like an illustrated book everyone should read. I know I'll be looking to add it to my collection.

Thanks, David, thanks a lot.
 

Janet Solomon (249)
Wednesday October 28, 2009, 7:07 pm
Mythos illustrated? bygawd, it's a MIRACLE!!!!
Thank you, David!
[Namaste BTW]
 

Agnes L. (60)
Wednesday October 28, 2009, 7:12 pm
wow good one thanks David
 

Sharen B. (42)
Thursday October 29, 2009, 9:34 pm
Ahhh.. a book I need to get.
 

Locan Sleeping-Squirrel (89)
Thursday October 29, 2009, 10:43 pm
Interesting read, thanks David
 

Pamylle G. (245)
Friday October 30, 2009, 3:53 am
Can't wait to have a look !
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Friday October 30, 2009, 3:14 pm
I've been a huge R.Crumb fan for decades,
and kudos to him for illustrating the book of
Genesis. I read about this last week in USA Today,
and was very impressed with Crumb's work. I'm
seriously considering purchasing a copy. It sounds
like a real keeper!
Thanks, David! :-)
nted.
 

David Gould (146)
Friday October 30, 2009, 6:58 pm
And yet another great literary work gets dumbed down for the Homer Simpson's of this world.
To get the full impact of this great book hear it recited in Hebrew...listen to the breath pauses...and realise just how big a deal the fall really was...
Of course as a former Biblical critic I have to say that one can detect several different stories going on even in the first four chapters with possibly three different accounts of the Creation and a few verses that possibly didn't even belong (go on look them up they are 1:27 which is possibly part of a Chaldean song and the only mention in the Bible of God being both male and female and 9:20-28 ...portraying Noah as a drunk).
But I think that I would buy a TV before looking at a cartoon version of the Bible...I do not own a TV and would never find a use for one!

 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Friday October 30, 2009, 10:02 pm
If we approach the Holy Bible as being what it is,
the innerrant Word of the Living God, then it's my
opinion that any version of it, whether illustrated or whatever,
is worth checking out.
R.Crumb approached this venture as an atheist, but he did
exhaustive research before beginning the work of illustration.
God has promised that His Word would never return to Him void,
and many people have been brought to salvation even by errant views of His Word.
I certainly don't recommend those errant versions, but each individual is on her/his
own private and personal path, and hopefully those paths all arrive at the same
place, eternal salvation through the shed blood of Jesus the Christ.
R.Crumb's illustrated version of Genesis will doubtlessly move some to read
the Word, and that's a great thing.
 

Black T. (228)
Friday October 30, 2009, 10:03 pm
Thanks David, a totally hilarious read and am going to make the author richer by buying his book. As I said in the comment thread I am going to have a great rainy afternoon read, sounds like fun.
 

John R. (56)
Friday October 30, 2009, 10:23 pm
I can see the Furry Freak Brothers as the Three Wise men, but where will Fritz the Cat fit in or for that matter Bobo Bolinski. He always used to do great drawings of God. I look forward to seeing it, I read the King James version; it wasn't very inspiring. :)
 

Simon Wood (300)
Friday October 30, 2009, 11:11 pm
Any comic of "The Phantom" has more morality and a more plausible and gripping story than this load of superstitious rubbish.

And anyone with any dignity would rather read a "Garfield" comic book than this moronic trash - Garfield includes humour, and is more psychologically healthy than the "Bible"'s authoritarian justifications for abuses.
 

Simon Wood (300)
Friday October 30, 2009, 11:20 pm
News flash:

The "Bible" was written by human beings, not some invisible ghost called "god".

And most of the authors of the "Bible" were sexist, fascist men, who were supersitious, mmentally deranged, and/or liars). "Fascist," you ask? Yeah, they said that "god" and prophets ordered the "jewish" people to genocide the people of Palestine/Israel in order to settle there. Read the "Bible" without youe rose-coloured glasses of reverence, and you will see this clearly.

An infinitely more psychologically healthy and enlightening read than the "Bible" is Richard Dawkin's book, "The God Delusion", a scientific explanation for the delusions that we call "religions".
 

Simon Wood (300)
Friday October 30, 2009, 11:35 pm
PS, the world was not "created in 6 days by an invisible all-knowing, all-powerful ghost" (who then shows his "all-merciful nature" by causing/allowing huge suffering to people and other specices - what a sick joke!!!)...

No, the world was not "created". It was formed naturally, by physical and nuclear and chemical processes, and by evolution. Anyone who believes in creationism did not get a proper scientific education (a common problemin the USA, due to its crap education system, and the huge influence of fundamentalist christians over there). I recommend that all creationists go back and study science properly (perhaps at university, or from decent science books).
 

Simon Wood (300)
Friday October 30, 2009, 11:44 pm
PPS, the importance of all of this in real life, is that the scientific approach to life (basing beliefs on credible evidence, and changing beliefs if new evidence warrants it), is much more psychologically healthy than the dogmatic approach to life (believing with blind faith in ideas that are unsupported by credible evidence, and thus not changing beliefs when the evidence disproves those beliefs).

Dogmatism is a divergence from reality - it is when people are out of touch with reality, believing in delusions, which result in actions that cause very different results to what is intended. The result is huge suffering, caused by ignorant support of oppression, exploitation and impoverishment, in politics and economics, as well as in family and social life, social rejection and violence against people for having sex outside of marriage, against homosexual people, people who choose to use contraception, women who choose to exercise their rights over their own bodies by having an abortion, etc..
 

John R. (56)
Friday October 30, 2009, 11:45 pm
Richard Dawkins, now there's a writer; literature for the enlightened that you can really believe in.
 

Felicita Luna (222)
Saturday October 31, 2009, 7:16 am
Sounds very interesting thank you.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Saturday October 31, 2009, 11:14 am
"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.
No man cometh unto the Father but by Me."
-Jesus the Christ.

God is a Spirit, but He is not a "ghost".
The 66 books of the Bible were written by over 40 men over a period of more than
1,500 years, and it's works fit together perfectly like no other book
ever written. As Paul the Apostle said, the Bible was not written by men,
but it's words were given to men as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
The Bible is the living Word of the Living God, and it's words are perfect
and complete for all our needs and instruction.
Considering only 8 prophecies of Jesus the Messiah, the odds are
10 quadrillion to one that they could have been fulfilled in the life of any
one man other than the Messiah.
Faith is the substanstiation of things hoped for,
and the evidence of things not seen. Without faith, it is impossible
to please God. But, He will give the faith to believe to anyone who asks.
He will reward all who diligently seek Him, and He is certainly capable
of speaking to people thru the work of R.Crumb.
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday October 31, 2009, 9:16 pm
"Considering only 8 prophecies of Jesus the Messiah, the odds are
10 quadrillion to one that they could have been fulfilled in the life of any one man other than the Messiah."...

Them's big odds Tim? :-)...When does a belief in the unknown supercede a belief in reality as we know it? And Why?
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Sunday November 1, 2009, 10:35 am
Yes, David, them's very big odds!
If you have not, please read the blog on my page,
"An Accidental Fulfillment of Prophecy?"
You're a pragmatic man, and I honor that in you.
Your question above is the very essence of faith:
Belief in the unknown superscedeing a belief in
reality.
God cannot be "known" as we know many other things.
Jesus said that we cannot see the wind, but we feel it,
we see it's effects, and we know it is there. The same
can be said for electricity, which powers the computers by
which we all communicate here across the planet.
Without faith, which is a belief in and knowledge of the invisible
and the unknowable, it is impossible to please God. But, if we ask
Him for that faith, He will grant it to us, out of His love for us.
I understand that this boggles the logical mind, but perhaps it's supposed to.
I have not and will not give up on you, David, and neither will God our
Father. He loves you very much, and so do I! :-)
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday November 1, 2009, 11:07 am
No, I can't see the wind or electricity but try plugging your finger into a power socket, it exists bigtime...Yes I can see the effects of the wind, so I know it exists as well...

However I cannot see God, I cannot feel him/her, I cannot speak with him/her...There is no communication...Therefore if I am to belive that there is a God should I note the storms, wars, pestulence and the complete disregard for the wellbeing of mankind and worship the unknown God?...If so, why?

It's comforting to know that God loves me very much Tim...Did he/she tell you so?...

I love you and that's good enough for me. :-)



 

Elderberry T. (187)
Sunday November 1, 2009, 5:43 pm
A BIG thank you from the NWO..from the the bottom of their big banksters stash (No heart)and no God...They congratulate all who attack any belief in God, the Bible and Christianity which they hate. Clearing the way of all faiths(obstacles) is exactly the agenda. God is not responsible for the wars etc etc as you know. God is love, and always here within and without.
 

David Buchan (164)
Sunday November 1, 2009, 6:04 pm
"God is not responsible for the wars etc etc as you know."...Oh really Elderberry, exactly where does God's responsibility end? (And where does yours start)
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Tuesday November 3, 2009, 9:22 am
David, did you think I had vanished?
Not hardly, matey! Just very busy (and tired)
these last two days.

You are right on top of the truth, my friend.
Electricity and wind cannot be seen, but they can
be felt! They can be known without visible evidence of their
existence. Zapping yourself in a light socket, or seeing leaves blown
does not prove the existence of wind or electricity by visibly seeing them,
but by seeing/feeling their effects. This is how it is with God.

Please don't blame God for the wars, pestilence, famine, etc.
He does not want these things to exist. He created humanity
with free will, to do what we choose. We have chosen to not
follow God, or chosen to follow His path, which is why we have
so much evil in the world. It's our fault, not God's, and He will not
revoke our free will just because we've effed-up His world.

An individual's opinion of God, even the belief in whether God
exists is an extremely personal, private and intimate thing,
and the most that poor slobs like myself can do for folks like you
is influence your decisiion and opinion. You could tell me here
and now that you'll never believe in God, and it would not make me
love you any less, David, nor would it make me stop praying for you,
and I DO pray for you! I would be willing to continue this discussion
with you for as long as either of us lives, because it's that important.
YOU are that important, to me, and to God. He's really there, and He really
does love you, David, as do I!
Namaste'!
 

John R. (56)
Tuesday November 3, 2009, 9:54 am
Tim while there is tangible and irrefutable evidence of the existence of electricity and wind there is absolutely none for the existence of "God" or in fact any gods.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Wednesday November 4, 2009, 11:15 pm
Yes, John, I agree completely.
And, once again, I must say, that
this is the very essence of faith.
However, as the Bible says,
"The heavens declare the glory of God."
Or, would you believe that the enormous
complexity of the universe simply happened?
That everything, including life itself, came
to be created from nothing out of nothing by
nothing? To me, such a position would require
far more faith than a belief in God.
Call it "intelligent design", or whatever name
one would choose to put on it, but everything that
exists must have been created by a supreme being.
I absolutely will not say that anyone must believe
in God. I'm simply not that kind of Pastor. Even God
Himself would never require blind belief or blind
obedience. He created us with free will, and He wishes
that we will believe in Him and love Him out of that
same free will. We are free to make up our own minds,
as individuals, to believe in Him and serve Him......
or not.
 

David Buchan (164)
Saturday November 7, 2009, 11:10 pm
The devil is responsible for wars, storms, death and destructiom etc, etc ad-infinitum?...

Does god have any responsibility at all?...

Why worship a masochist?
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (516)
Sunday November 8, 2009, 9:47 am
If we're going to assign blame for wars, death and destruction,
let's lay the blame where it properly belongs:
On humanity.
We have the capacity to prevent these things,
we just don't exercise that capacity.
As for storms, the Earth is a violent planet,
yet it's the only one we know of capable of sustaining life.
Absolutely, God has a responsibility. All life was created by God,
and without Him, life could not be and could not continue.
But specifically, with regard to wars, death and destruction,
God is not the authour of these things It is humanity, under
the inspiration of Satan, and using our free will, who are
responsible for these things. Again, we have the power
to stop it, but we choose not to use that power.
When humanity can properly choose to follow God,
and not Satan, and to be vessels of God's love, then
we'll see some genuine change. But, if it's not happened
in more than 6,000 years of human history, how likely
does it seem to be that that's going to happen on a global scale?
It must be done on an individual basis. We CAN change the world,
but it seems only to be possible one person at a time, and we
can certainly change OUR world......individually.
Namaste'!
 
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