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Let George W. Bush Discuss His Legacy However He Likes... From the Hague


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: usa, bush, bushadministration, cheney, congress, republicans, crimes against humanity, The Hague, torture, iraq, lies, terrorism, 9/11 )

Lynn
- 474 days ago - commondreams.org
George W. Bush presided over an international network of torture chambers ... launched a war of aggression that killed hundreds of thousands ... instead of the bloody details of his time in office being recounted at a war crimes tribunal...imperial privilege ...



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Lynn Squance (230)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 12:59 am
I too would like to see Baby Bush at The Hague answering for all his nefarious conduct. And he can take Cheney with him. Perhaps they will get cells next to each other.

Another history revisionist.
 

Teresa W. (676)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 1:01 am
good idea
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 2:33 am
I would like to see that Happen !
 

Diane O. (149)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 6:07 am
Sorry, folks, but George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were never charged with any wrong doing. Do you think it was because there wasn't any evidence to support it?

Move....forward. George W. Bush has a 49% approval rating today. He'll look like a saint once Obama exits left in 2016.
 

Wild Thang (9)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 11:45 am
And what of Congress and the bipartisan approval given to him or the rah, rah USA eagerness to hit anything the moves in response to 9/11??? What of Albright telling the dems they should go along with it and how many did? And the ones that didn't did so just to get an alternative for the party if it needs it.? What if we had to pay reparations. Presidents function as scapegoat so we can all get off and they just get a black mark on their scorecard and build the monument to the Presidency to rewrite their history later in a sanitary way. May our won soldier deserve reparation too and the Vietnam vets and Vietnam? Maybe our foreign assets could be frozen and accesssed?
 

tasunka m. (334)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 11:49 am
Did u hear about his expensive huge lie bury?
Signed a petition against it.
He doesn't deserve to waste taxpayers dollars
 

Diane O. (149)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 12:35 pm
Hardly an American shame or a joke. His popularity rating just went up to 49%. Wonder why? GWB did many things that were good for our country and, of course, NOW we learn that Saddam Hussein moved his WMD's, you know the ones I'm talking about...they ones which couldn't be found? They have just surfaced in Syria.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 3:11 pm
As the article states, Bush has an heir in Obama - or didn't you catch that? So, as Obama has supported Bush's military plans, it stands to reason that he to needs to go to The World Court.
While there, maybe Obama can be asked for the need in his want of military spending for missles that even the Pentagon does not support.
 

Nyack Clancy (432)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 3:15 pm
Difference being, of course Allen- Obama ENDED the war in Iraq. Bush stayed there for a little genocide (the very thing he accused Sadam Hussan of) and killed 100,000 Muslim Iraqi's.

If Obama did that, I guess I missed it.
 

Wild Thang (9)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 3:29 pm
The US the anti-superman spreading depleted kryptonite around the middle-east like agent orange in Vietnam and droning on and one about how abused we have been and how we are taking down anonymous culprits everyday as more babies with birth defects are born in Iraq and Vietnam..
 

Lisa sick Windsor (154)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 5:29 pm
I am with Nyack on her comment! Never liked Bush or Cheney either...
 

Lynn Squance (230)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 6:18 pm
@ Diane O --- "...NOW we learn that Saddam Hussein moved his WMD's, you know the ones I'm talking about...they ones which couldn't be found? They have just surfaced in Syria."

Regardless whether the WMDs in Syria are from Hussein/Iraq or not, decisions to illegally attack Iraq were made by Baby Bush, Chickenhawk Cheney and their council of clowns on the presumption of WMDs, not on solid evidence of WMDs. How many Iraqi citizens, non combatants, were murdered as a result of that decision? How many US troops were sacrificed as a result of that decision? Nobody can go back and say "See I was right." because at the time of the decision, Bush was wrong!

"His popularity rating just went up to 49%. Wonder why?"

Diane, maybe you should have tried to answer your own question. This from the "Washington Post re:Bush's Approval Rating"
"According to the April 23 front-page article “A new library and a new assessment,” former president George W. Bush’s approval ratings are up as his library is about to open. That is not unusual. Such ratings often rise once presidents leave office — out of sight, out of mind.

But nothing changes the fact that Mr. Bush was one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, and no amount of right-wing spin can change his wretched performance as president. . . . "

and the short article goes on. The only right thing that Baby Bush did was to leave office in 2010. Oh but wait, he was constitutionally bound to step down so that was not his decision. Hmmm...

Bush should be answering questions at The Hague, not getting his adoration fix at the "expensive huge lie bury" (Tasunka --- love that phrase!") where he is trying to rewrite history in the deluded Republican/Teabagger mode.

@ Allan Y --- I caught that, but we should remember too that Bush committed the country to a course of action and nobody, including Mr Obama, can turn that puppy around on a dime! Likewise there has been a recalcitrant Congress that has stood in his way for his entire presidency.

Thanks everyone!
 

John B. (215)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 6:31 pm
Thanks Lynn for posting the link to the great article by Jodie Evans and Charles Davis. Bush and most members of his Cabinet should be facing war crimes charges not opening libraries or making money from speaking engagements. Read and noted.
 

lee e. (114)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 7:45 pm
OHHHHH FUUUUU*K! It's Diane coming to the defense of the world's most notorious terrorist! Get out of here - go back beneath the stone you came from - or is that your heart? - Damn - she gets me pissed off! This was the most corrupt administration ever to have marred the character of this nation - even Nixon couldn't hold a candle next to this Mussolini - he and Cheney - Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Rice, (sorry to say even Powers), Yoo, Bybee, a host of others that should be condemned and exiled in disgrace from this country - but not even Obama ( in all of his feigned "goodness") could find it in his heart to save the nation's face - no - he speaks with forked tongue - Bush managed to make the most pure of our nation turn to malevolent ways - I hope someone will take it upon himself to bring about some justice - destroy that building that brings more shame on this country and bring that regime to justice!
 

JL A. (275)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 8:17 pm
Given that the international laws so many have referenced above were insisted on by the US originally, it seems we should be willing to honor them and let The Hague determine the justice of the criminal allegations or the innocence of Bush and Cheney.
 

Genoveva M M. (331)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 11:15 pm
Hard to believe,but after 9/11 I thought he was a good president, what a cruel awaking after a while.
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (379)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:47 am
I could never stand him, almost as much as I can't stand BiBi! I hate stupidity and inconsistancy.
 

Pat A. (117)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:16 am
Green star Lee , I had quite forgotten the troll. Lynn, and Lee, I completely agree with you.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:22 am
And now, we find out that George W. Bush was absolutely correct about the WMD's in Iraq as they have surfaced in Syria....along with the chemical weapons. So, George Bush was right all along. You seem to forget the years that Saddam Hussein refused inspections while he moved the weapons to Syria.

You can now close that chapter.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:25 am
Hillary Clinton lied about Benghazi. Eric Holder lied about Fast & Furious. Obama's hand picked tax evaders. These things spare no political party.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday May 3, 2013, 3:07 am
How do you get off calling anyone a liar, Diane/? You are one of the most inveterate liars I've ever come across. Every wotd from your poison pen proves your irrationality and ignorance.

And if you think Bush and Cheney weren't terrorists, encourage them to tour the world. There are warrants out for them for crimes against humanity from most of our allies. Good indication why he has oroperty in Paraguay which doesn't have extradition treaties. And no American court would allow charges of this sort against former presidents or vice presidents,

Here's what I wonder, I once posted a fact on NewsMax and was banned for life. But Diane comes here where sane people gather, posts lies, ignorance and stupidity and gets away with it. Kind of shows the difference between liberals and conservatives, doesn't it?
 

Angelica C. (84)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:18 am
They weren't charged with wrongdoing because they held the highest offices in the land. Thanks to the right wing worship of money and power, we don't prosecute people like that. And this is one area where I disagree with Obama. He's too damned soft on the right wing. But the American left is not the only group that wants them arrested. If either of them ever travel overseas, they run the likelihood of being arrested for war crimes. There are several European countries that would like to get their hands on them, as I understand it. Are they wrong, too? This country has always prided itself on following the rules of the Geneva Convention. We were honorable. These morons destroyed the respect America had in the world and tapped into such a vast wellspring of hatred from the Middle East. You see the results now. Do you think Bush and Cheney care one bit about the lives damaged and lost at the Boston Marathon? I don't either. Do you think Bush and Cheney have to suffer the typical indignities at the airport like the rest of us do? I don't either. But they caused all our present troubles around the world. .
 

Lynn Squance (230)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:22 am
@ Diane O --- "...George Bush was right all along. ..."

No Diane, Baby Bush was NOT right all along. You can NOT change history. You're a typical Republican/Teabagger revising history to suit your own ill founded logic. Bush made decisions based on NO evidence, only on manufactured suppositions. It doesn't matter that Hussein refused inspections, Bush still did not have any evidence. Bush took the US into an illegal war of aggression (secretly for oil) under the guise of WMD, for which he had no evidence. And he put it all on the country's credit card.

You, one of his adoring blinded fans can close that chapter in your revision of history, but history will continue to record Bush as a fool and the worst US president ever.

Further more, Diane, please do not try to change the subject of the thread over to Mr Obama. He has nothing to do with this thread.

Thanks to all but one.
 

John Gregoire (254)
Friday May 3, 2013, 5:21 am
Boy, how a supposed discussion of some irrelevant body in the Hague quickly went into the liberal/conservative gutter! Name calling seems to be the best so many can do. And, we wonder why we still have so many incompetents in our Congress! -these are the folks that blindly keep voting them back in.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday May 3, 2013, 6:12 am
We have incompetents in the congress mainly because people don't do their due diligence. If they did, there would be no Republican obstructionists in congress and we would be a great country once again.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday May 3, 2013, 6:16 am
Tasunka, I wish I could agree with you, but Presidential Libraries are privately funded. Why anyone thinks a Bush (either one) library is a good idea tells me that some people are way too overpaid if they think a Bush library should be bigger than a breadbox.


On second thought, a Bush library dedicated to their crimes might be a fine idea.
 

Pat A. (117)
Friday May 3, 2013, 6:16 am
Green star Robert K and Lynn and others deserve more green stars but they can't have them just yet! Excellent comments!
 

Arielle S. (316)
Friday May 3, 2013, 8:11 am
Bush was (and still is) the laughing stock of Europe and many other countries. He and he cronies are basically prisoners here now because if they leave, they could and should be arrested. Both Bush and Cheney are poor excuses for human beings and I cannot imagine how anybody could defend either one.
 

Kathy B. (98)
Friday May 3, 2013, 8:17 am
Truth be told, the Iraq war was about OIL, WMD's were just an excuse.
 

pam w. (191)
Friday May 3, 2013, 8:40 am
You can ''spin'' until you're GREEN, Diane O....you'll never EVER turn Shrub into anything other than what he is....a genuine pig's ear.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday May 3, 2013, 8:54 am
Kathy B, not just an excuse, a pathetic one. Thye inspectors said Saddam had allowed them free access and there were no WMDs and that was why Bush ordered them to leave and attacked, because his lies were being exposed. Now. whenever anything related to WMD is seen the numbskull righties say, "see, he did have them. Not realizing that any poison gas from Saddam would not still be operational, they saing y that they're so dumb they don't realize that they only are effective for a few years and that almost any chemist can manufacture them in limited amounts. We don't even know whether the gas allegedly used was used by Syria or the rebels. Now, if they were used in extremely large amounts, which apparently they weren't, that would probably be an indication that it was the government.
 

Nyack Clancy (432)
Friday May 3, 2013, 9:05 am
@ Dianne
"So, George Bush was right all along. You seem to forget the years that Saddam Hussein refused inspections while he moved the weapons to Syria. "

Well, the question begs top be asked, if Bush KNEW that, why did he bother to invade Iraq and kill 100,000 Iraqi Muslims?
 

Terrie Williams (768)
Friday May 3, 2013, 10:04 am
They all need to be at the Hague, including Obama, the Great Betrayer.
I see our resident Fascist troll is back to stir it up and spin trash. Sigh.......

It never changes.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Friday May 3, 2013, 12:34 pm
Noted.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:05 pm
Actually, I consider all of you trolls LOL. Public forum in case you've forgotten. Don't want to be challenged on your incorrect comments? Then don't post them.

When GWB left office unemployment was down to 5.2%. Even with the war in Iraq GWB's debt was 2.5 to 3 trillion. In four years Obama kept unemployment between 8.7 and 9%. His added debt is $7.trillion and he intends to add another $4.8 trillion.

GWB had an all democratic congress in 2007and 2008 - why didn't they push for raising taxes? Think about it.The 2007 GOP budget was close to coming out even.

TARP was in GWB's deficit:
TARP: BY THE NUMBERS

70 Percent: Percentage of TARP disbursements ($411 billion) taxpayers have recovered ($287 billion) to date, including repayments, dividends, warrant sales, and other income.

$48 Billion: Estimated lifetime cost of TARP (President’s FY2012 Budget), assuming all housing funds are spent

$28 Billion: Estimated cost when also including AIG common stock held outside of
TARP (President’s FY2012 Budget)

8.5 Million: Additional jobs that would have been lost without the federal
government’s response to the financial crisis, including TARP and the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act – according to a study by economists Marc Zandi and Alan Blinder (How the Great Recession Was Brought to an End, July 2010)

88,600: Number of jobs the auto industry has added since GM and Chrysler emerged from bankruptcy – the strongest job growth in that industry in more than a decade.

$13.5 Billion: Taxpayer proceeds from the November 2010 GM IPO, which cut Treasury’s common stock stake in that company nearly in half

$28.72: Break-even price for Treasury on its AIG common stock stake

$245 Billion: Amount that TARP has invested in banks

$243 Billion: Repayments and other income from banks to date

$20 Billion: Estimated lifetime profit expected on TARP investments in banks

$12.3 Billion: Cumulative profit to date on Treasury’s TARP investment in Citigroup

607,607: Number of homeowners that have received permanent mortgage modifications through TARP’s Home Affordable Modification Program SM (HAMP SM)

27,957: New permanent HAMP modifications in January 2011

$475 Billion: Maximum authorized TARP disbursements, which was reduced from $700 billion under the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act

Steve Adamske is Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Public Affairs.

Seems to me we need to subtract $287 BILLION from GWB's deficit, don't you?

You people have been spoon fed garbage from the biased left wing media. I understand it can't be helped because over 65% of journalists in our country are liberals.

Nyack, you are an easy target: Why did GWB go into Iraq anyway? Try to say this name two times: Saddam Hussein Saddam Hussein murdered over 200,000 of his own people because they disagreed with him. Imagine that. When GWB got rid of Saddam Hussein women were finally released from brutality and began to work and vote. A price came with that victory like in every war.



 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:13 pm
SUB PRIME MORTGAGE DEBACLE WAS THE CAUSE OF OUR DEEP RECESSION.

Predatory lending got his "wings" when Jimmy Carter was president. Then President Clinton enhanced to make it easier for minorities to buy a home but he had to lean on the banks to reduce their lending standards. Guess what, folks? Thousands of minorities bought homes they couldn't afford and they went belly up and crashed Wall Street, the banks, the auto industry, the building industry, you name it .... Jimmy Carter's "big boy idea" to relax mortgage lending practices showed up GWB's watch and he had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

So, what did obama do? His answer to the problem was to sell us an $860 billion stimulus package SOLD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AS A JOBS BILL, which it wasn't....and it failed. It not only failed it crashed with all of Obama's hand picked private sector green companies going bankrupt in record time. Oh, and those jobs? Each of them cost the taxpayer $350,000 each and now those jobs went down with the bankrupt green companies.

Everthing Obama has touched has hurt the American people not helped them. Oh, nearly forgot The Lily Ledbetter Act....that was the last constructive "cerebral" moment IMO.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:20 pm
What surprises me is that you hate a past president who actually had a much better record that Obama has had in four years. EVERY SINGLE POLICY BUSH PUT IN PLACE Obama has wrapped his arms around and they are still in place with the exception of a few very minor changes. WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT IF BUSH'S POLICIES WERE SOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD THAT OBAMA WOULD'VE CHANGED ALL OF THEM?

Obama didn't change them. He pulled out of Iraq too soon as we all can see because we can read the news....and the bad boys are circling the wagon again. That never should've happened but, hey, Obama was elected because he some kind of experience, right? Yep, that's right, he was a community organizer with an expired law license. Worked for the liberals and you see what a mess he has this country in?

Obama never knew what to do....he will be known as the "band aid president." He put very expensive band aides on really big issues and therefore, they never really went away. They simply festered underneath that taxpayer bandaid.

I'm surprised that the liberals don't all have prayer mats.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:20 pm
typos: "much better record than...."
 

Gene Jacobson (251)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:01 pm
"It came into being on 1 July 2002—the date its founding treaty, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, came into force[6]—and it can prosecute only crimes committed on or after that date.[7] The Court's official seat is in The Hague, Netherlands, but its proceedings may take place anywhere.[8]

As of May 2013[update], 122 states[9] are states parties to the Statute of the Court, including all of South America, all of Australia, nearly all of Europe and roughly half the countries in Africa.[10] A further 31 countries,[9] including Russia, have signed but not ratified the Rome Statute.[10] The law of treaties obliges these states to refrain from “acts which would defeat the object and purpose” of the treaty until they declare they do not intend to become a party to the treaty.[11] Three of these states—Israel, Sudan and the United States—have informed the UN Secretary General that they no longer intend to become states parties and, as such, have no legal obligations arising from their former representatives' signature of the Statute.[10][12] 41 United Nations member states[9] have neither signed nor ratified or acceded to the Rome Statute; some of them, including China and India, are critical of the Court."

There is a catch. The above is the introduction to the Wikipedia entry on the World Court. In the same way some "banks" or "companies" are too big to let fail, so to does the US consider its people. We have withdrawn our original signature and are no longer party to it. We're above the law. Who's gonna come get 'em? And would we ever let anyone? Not likely.
 

Angelica C. (84)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:06 pm
Obama is not culpable because he was a community organizer. Frankly, I am really fed up with the right wing view of "every man for himself" in community living. You are members of communities./ What's wrong with community organizing?
 

Roseann D. (178)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:10 pm
Diane O. you post inaccuracies all the time...so don't dish your usual bullpuckey crap. Lead by example you know. Remember POST FROM REPUTABLE SOURCES...WHERE ARE THOSE LINKS so we can check your material for ourselves????
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 2:27 pm
What do you mean "every man for himself?" We pay a great deal in taxes that go to the slackards and also fund welfare, medicaid and medicare. The rich pay the bills in America. So how much more do you want? Do you want the personal responsibility Americans to pay for their children's college education, money they have saved for this event since their children were born and then pay for your daughter or son to go to college? Do you think if a personal responsibility has three cars and you only have one that the personal responsibility Americans who live within their means and can afford what they buy should hand over their third car so that you can have two?

You have a pure socialist mentality if you believe you have a right to other people's hard earned money.

I don't have inaccuracies in my post because if I did you didn't list them and document your source for rebuttal. My link is up there for the TARP information. It's from a government site. As far as my other comments all of them can be easily googled and you'll see plenty of links to support them.

I don't care if you call it crap or not. I would expect you to call it crap because you aren't interested in posting a rebuttal.

Angelica: Community organizer is right out of Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals." The community organizer is needed in a socialist setting to agitate the minorities preaching to them that their government is responsible for giving them more in their lives while many are in three and four generations of being welfare recipients. The largest expenditure our country has is for entitlements. Think social security is a nice big bulging fund? You would be wrong. It's a ponzi scheme. There is NO social security fund. What we bring in every month is what we pay out and soon the baby boomers, the largest contributor into social security will retire and that revenue stops. Then what will you do? Elect another community organizer to fix it? LOL
 

mike Kowalchuk (40)
Friday May 3, 2013, 3:49 pm
DianeO..... How in the hell can you defend anything that Bush and his cronies did, polices are you kidding me he could be on the good list for a million years and it still would not clear what he did he was just responsible for things that were unforgivable.Jeeesssusss some people just don't get it even when the evidence is overwhelming.
 

David Menard (43)
Friday May 3, 2013, 3:50 pm
The Bushwhacker,Cheney and their GOP/neo-con dirt bag flunkie stooges started the US down the road to police state patriot act Etc. Bush legacy= misery,corruption ,greed,stupidity,fascisim,plutocracy and a insane debt for 2 wars based not on faulty intelligence but manufactured intelligence. to bad the could not manufacture some for themselves! Bush library is a JOKE.
 

Diane O. (149)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:06 pm
Mike, easy...so very easy. You have noticed that Obama has kept nearly every Bush policy in place. I rest my case. Obama couldn't alter them because they worked.

George Bush will look like a saint by the time Obama exits left in 2016. I always knew history would be very good to George W. Bush. Don't like him? Who cares? I don't. His popularity rating has soared over the past week for the very simple reason that Americans were given the opportunity to see what a Leader looked like. We've forgotten since Obama, the leading from behind president, took office. Obama is no more a leader than I am a Hollywood starlet.

And, David, GWB and Cheney were never charged with any crimes simply because there was no evidence to lead down that path. Obama, on the other hand, has Fast and Furious and now Benghazi and fortunately for the republicans in 2016 there's no way Hillary can wiggle herself out of this debacle. The truth always comes out. Just like Saddam's WMD's turning up in Syria. You just can't make this stuff up.

Bush's popularity rating this week at 49%. Case closed.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:48 pm
Amen!
 

Angelica C. (84)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:50 pm
Well, all the people that benefit from taxes are referred to by you as "slackards." Evidently, you feel they are less worthy than you.So, yeah - republicans think it's "every man for himself."







 

Nyack Clancy (432)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:51 pm
Obama DID NOT keep every Bush policy in place, Dianne. He ended the war in Iraq, and stopped the genocide of 100,000 Iraqi Muslims.

Bush wouldn't have stopped until he invaded Iran for Weapons of Mass Destruction, and built a pipeline that included Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq- no mater how many Muslims he had to slaughter to do it to give contracts to his oil friends.
 

Nyack Clancy (432)
Friday May 3, 2013, 4:54 pm
And THAT is common knowledge all over the world, Dianne. Everywhere EXCEPT Fox News.
 

Dale O. (193)
Friday May 3, 2013, 8:53 pm
Fascinating article. Bush was not exactly what one could call a progressive president. pam w, you and so many others have got that one right!
 

Barbara V. (51)
Friday May 3, 2013, 9:59 pm
Frankly, I can't stand the sight of this bloke. With his 35 crimes against the Constitution, he ought to be sitting in jail and doing the first hard labor of his wretched life. But oh no,, he was Prez, so that means he's untouchable. There will come a time, however, when an authority bigger than Bush wiilll do something with him. Him and that horror he had as a VP.
 

Barbara V. (51)
Friday May 3, 2013, 10:11 pm
Diane O: It's views like yours and the voting results that have pulled this country down. Some Americans are unbelievably blind. I assume you're one of their club members. Bush was and is, a little worm.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Friday May 3, 2013, 11:15 pm
Oh, God please do not even try to discuss anything with Diane O'Lying Parrots. She will never admit that W was on watch,if it did not conflict with his taking 33% of his term in office off as Vaction time, and there fore responsible for the single worst/most successful Terroist attack on American soil. She will never admitt that by 2020 52% of the US DEBT will be from the Bush Tax cuts and interest on them and both the Afganistan and Iraq wars as the Tax cuts and War and all those Supplimental expenditures went directly on to the Nations credit card. She will never admit that while she and her ilk are still having fits about 3 dead in Benghazi while during W's two terms 60 Diplomats and staff died and not a single Repug ass clenched or mouth opened.
US Embassy and Consulate Attacks Under George W. Bush
Jan. 22, 2002: US Consulate at Kokata, 5 KILLED
June 14, 200: US Consulate at Karachi, 12 KILLED
Feb 28,2003: YS Embassy at Islamabad, 2KILLED
June 30, 2004: US Embassy at Tashkent, 2 KILLED
Dec 6,2004: US Compound at Saudi Arabia, 9 KILLED
March 2, 2006: US Consulatein Karachi again, 2 KILLED
Sept 12, 2006: US Embassy in Syria, 4 KILLED
March 18, 2008: US Embassy in Yemen, 2 KILLED
July 9, 2008: US Consulate in Istanbul, 6 KILLED
Seot 17, 2008: US Embassy in Yemen again, 16 KILLED
January, 2002 to Septtember, 2008 60 TOTAL DEATHS ON W. BUSH'S WATCH.
Federal spending:
Under W '02-'05 increased by 7.3%
'06-'09 increased by 8.1%
Under Obama '10-'13 increased by 1.4%.
New cost under W: $5.07 Trillion
New costs under Obama: $1.44 Trillion.
Diane can spew all the fresh manure from the Bush Book of Revisionist History she wants but lies are still lies, there was no 'yellow cake', there were no 'tubes, there were no WMD but there were multiple warnings about Bin Laden, and air planes and Bin Laden was at Tora Bora and let go.
George W. Bush was the worst President in American History and no amount of revisionist bull shit will cover the stench.
 

Lynn Squance (230)
Friday May 3, 2013, 11:34 pm
@ Diane O --- "...Bush's popularity rating this week at 49%. Case closed."

THAT is only your opinion. As I noted above from the Washington Post:

"According to the April 23 front-page article “A new library and a new assessment,” former president George W. Bush’s approval ratings are up as his library is about to open. That is not unusual. Such ratings often rise once presidents leave office — out of sight, out of mind.

But nothing changes the fact that Mr. Bush was one of the worst presidents in U.S. history, and no amount of right-wing spin can change his wretched performance as president. . . . "

Hell, even with his own party, Baby Bush was and still is personna non grata. No invite to CPAC, nor to the RNC, nor to . . . He doesn't have many friends. He is like the black plague! There are, or will be arrest warrants for him in various parts of Europe including London and Switzerland. Bush, Cheney and their council of clowns need to be tried for war crimes and be held accountable for their illegal war of aggression and the resulting deaths.

Thanks everyone.
 

Stuart Thomas (504)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 1:26 am
George W. Bush's presidency was a disaster for our country and for our world.

I find it incredible that anyone except for people who were in his administration would speak so positively about it.

If a person lost a son or daughter in the Afghanistan or Iraq war, I was ask was that sacrifice is worth it?????

I would doubt a loving and sane parent would say yes.!

When George W. Bush and Vice President were officially no longer in office, I sighed with relief.
 

Edwin M. (366)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 4:37 am
Selective amnesia
 

lee e. (114)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 5:45 am
W - is the only president in modern US history to wage a preemptive war, based on lies.
W - was the only president to directly ignore the Constitution first with the Patriot Act, initiating torture as US policy, the administration leaked Valerie Plame Wilson's identity as a CIA agent, rendition of terror suspects, defense contractors' criminal misconduct, he ignored the Constitution dozens of times in relation to his domestic surveillance programs. This guy considered to be stupid, was responsible for the degradation of the country - and I will not rest easy until that regime is brought to justice! I was going to mention the many "Benghazi's" perpetrated under the shrub administration but Lloyd H beat me to it! look all this crap up Diane O - it's reality according to history - not faux noise! A library commemorating this weasel indeed!
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 9:02 am
W may have been the "Decider", unfortunately he was wrong almost always. Interesting that during the Katrina exercise in the Decission interactive game the primary and only consideration given for action in New Orleans is to "quell civil unrest and criminal activity, at no point does aid, rescue or the human cost even get mentioned.
 

mike Kowalchuk (40)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 9:35 am
Dianeo,its going to take a lot more than two term's in office to straighten out the mess that Bush left your country in.I am not defending Obama by any means.There is know doubt that know matter who took over it would be a very daunting task to get thing's back on track.
 

Lois Jordan (54)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 1:05 pm
Trying to stay "on topic," I also wish Bush would be on trial at The Hague....war crimes, torture, war profiteering--just for starters. The Bush Regime knew Curveball was a liar who wanted to spark a war in Iraq, so they propped him up as "reliable." No one should ever forget the notorious Downing Street Memo....wonder if that's included in his lie-bury?
The Bush Regime also knew exactly who Joseph Wilson was when they sent him to Niger to check on that supposed yellowcake. When he came back & reported the truth, (that there was no yellowcake), his wife, CIA-employee Valerie Plame Wilson was outted as an agent, destroying her career....as well as the entire caseload she'd been working on.
 

Stuart Thomas (504)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 3:33 pm
Taken from Online "SALON":

MONDAY, FEB 7, 2011 06:54 AM -0700

Bush cancels Europe trip amid calls for his arrest
Amnesty International and other groups asked Swiss authorities to investigate the former president for torture
BY JUSTIN ELLIOTT
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TOPICS: GEORGE W. BUSH, WAR ROOM, TORTURE, POLITICS NEWS

Will George W. Bush set foot in Europe again in his lifetime?

A planned trip by Bush to speak at the Switzerland-based United Israel Appeal later this week has been canceled after several human rights groups called for Swiss authorities to arrest Bush and investigate him for authorizing torture. Bush has traveled widely since leaving office, but not to Europe, where there is a strong tradition of international prosecutions.

The Swiss group and Bush’s spokesman claim that it was threats of protest, not of legal action, that prompted the cancellation. But facing protests is nothing new for Bush. What was different about this trip was that groups including Amnesty International and the Center for Constitutional Rights argued that Switzerland, as a party to the UN Convention against Torture, is obligated to investigate Bush for potential prosecution.
 

Gloria picchetti (286)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 3:59 pm
#43 is a criminal.
 

Dale O. (193)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 4:17 pm
It is a well known fact that even if a decaying fence post was a republican president, some would still vote for it and hold the post in high esteem. Bush has a such a poor reputation world-wide that those wearing republican rose coloured glasses will never be able to spruce him up.
 

Dale O. (193)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 4:19 pm
No matter how many paint jobs republican revisionists wish to apply to the fence post, it cannot alter the fact that the post, aka Bush and his presidency are still rotting and his reputation is a pile of splinters for the historical record.
 

ellen m. (233)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 4:48 pm
"If wishes were horses.." WWouldit be so..

And the troll would crawl back under her rock as well.
Great comments from all. Well, with a minor exception or two ;-) thanks Lynn
 

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 6:29 am
Hey, I disagree with Diane on everything political. But she isn't a troll. This is what she believes. I also think that we on the left must always be better than those on the right in our behavior towards others. The right wing stands for screwing your fellow man. But we are for compassion. We have to be compassionate through and through. We are winning this war against neo-American corporate fascism. We can't ever let our guards down.
 

Winn Adams (191)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 7:18 am
Bush and Cheney are criminals. Bush stole the first election. He was and still is a dry drunk and both men are a blight on America. Cheney was pulling the strings behind the curtain. I know there is one place I will Never Visit and it's the Bush Library. It's filled with lies, lies and more lies and taxpayer dollars Never should have been spent on it.
 

Diane O. (149)
Monday May 6, 2013, 11:51 am
You may "think" they are criminals but the fact remains that they were never ever charged with any crimes and they never will. That should tell you a great deal. I mean, your own liberal president Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath. I would think that had Bush and Cheney committed any crimes their butts would've been hauled before the court. But, they weren't. And why was that? Common sense tells you that they didn't do anything wrong.

And, thanks, Angelica, for the comment but then you went a tad overboard and made a broad and inaccurate statement that all republicans stand for screwing your fellow man. Do you know how absurd that comment is? My guess is that you believe that you deserve someone else's hard earned money.....redistributive wealth....evening the playing field.....all families in the neighborhood have the same luxury items, etc etc...the Robin Hood story. That is an uneducated and very childish statement to make. It simply isn't true anymore than all liberals are for compassion. Really?

History will, indeed, be very good to George W. Bush. Our financial situation and low unemployment were far healthier for our country then than it is today. The sub prime debacle leveled our financial industry and guess what? Those predatory loans were going to your people....the liberals, the Obama lovers, the minorities, the down trodden....and what did they do? They got themselves into loans they were never going to be able to afford....and they went into foreclosure. It's called personal responsibility. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, two liberal presidents leaned on the banks to "change" the rules on how could qualify for a home mortgage. Hello? Anyone out there? That was the beginning of the predatory loan monster. It's always good to start at the beginning and work forward.

Quite frankly, you folks can call me a troll every day. It doesn't bother me. When you call me a troll I know right then at that time that you have no rebuttal to what I post. "When your opponents call you names you know you have won."

 

ellen m. (233)
Monday May 6, 2013, 3:50 pm
@ Angelica. ..In your comment I dissagree with your first 2 sentences, but wholeheartedly agree with the rest.

And the post just before this one show's how dillusional she can be as well ;-)
 

Angelica C. (84)
Monday May 6, 2013, 6:00 pm
Diane, I work hard for everything I have - not that it is anyone's business. And I do believe that the republican party stands for screwing mankind.

They voted NOT to send aid to the victims of hurricane Sandy. Why on earth? They voted against background checks on gun purchases after 21 vinnocent children and their teachers were massacred. They support Paul Ryan, who created a budget significantly nicknamed "The Granny Starver Budget." They support screwing the middle class in just about any way you can think of while vehemently defending the rights of the one percent not to pay any taxes at all. Their presidential candidate stated quite firmly (Mittens) that he would not be a president of the poor, that they would not be of the slightest concern to him. He also demonized the middle class as parasites. And republicans voted for him anyway. How could they be anything else but screwing their fellow man?
 

Angelica C. (84)
Tuesday May 7, 2013, 5:09 am
By the way, Diane, American exceptionalism is not socialism.
 
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