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9 Questions That Atheists Might Find Insulting (And the Answers)


Society & Culture  (tags: atheists, questions, religion, society, culture, motivation )

Lynn
- 499 days ago - alternet.org
Every marginalized group has some question, or questions, that are routinely asked of them -- and that drive them up a tree; questions that have insult or bigotry or dehumanization woven into the very asking.



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Lynn Squance (232)
Monday May 20, 2013, 1:03 pm
I was reading this for my own general interest when it occurred to me that too often I see in comments that there are those who believe that atheists are 1) bad people; 2) going to hell; 3) are not moral: and the list goes on. Well sit up and take notice all you who don't comprehend that religion has absolutely nothing to do with morality! If it did, then for Christians there would be no divorce because one of the 10 commandments says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's property". It is bad enough that women in the Hebrew Scriptures were considered property (what the hell, women today in the fanatical evangelical pseudo Christian movement are still looked upon that way!), but a man wanting his neighbour's wife? That's immoral!

I am a liberal Christian by my choice. But that choice does not affect how I see other people --- I look upon others with compassion and love because that is morally right. I help others because that is morally right. I do not do what I do to make "... my god or gods happy and getting a good deal in the afterlife" . That is nothing but deceit and manipulation, hardly moral.

So enjoy the read and think about what the author is saying and about your own feelings and actions.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Monday May 20, 2013, 1:46 pm
Very interesting reading-thanks
 

lee e. (114)
Monday May 20, 2013, 2:12 pm
Thanks Lynn I got a kick out of this - it's fun to laugh at yourself - and as an Atheist - I get some of these questions occasionally - I did however read the Bible thoroughly 4 times prior to coming to my conclusions - I'm very close to Buddhism - which is atheist as well, but it demands too much discipline for me :) - almost as much discipline as praying 6 times a day facing toward Mecca :) I don't do religion well!
 

pam w. (191)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:49 pm
Number 9 is the only one I find offensive, simply because it's usually a manipulative thing....rather like the old ''why are you feminists so ANGRY?"

Well, IF we're ANGRY, it's because you ASSUME we're angry, approach us in that spirit and accuse us in public of ANGER. I guess it's a self-fulfilling accusation but it begins with YOU..

THIS atheist is only truly angry when religious fundies try to subvert the separation of church/state, pass legislation to get their ''commandments'' enacted as law, etc.

Then, my atheist friends and I get angry because of the gross hypocrisy of it all.

If you want to cloud your mind with myths and magic....it's fine. Just don't try to make that a law or impose those values on my private life/health care/educational systems or availability of books, films, music, etc.

That's not ''anger." It's demanding equal rights and freedom FROM religion for me, my family and friends.
 

Jae A. (323)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:47 pm
As an atheist....My ditto to all of the above comments..other than part of Pam's about 'one I found offensive'...as I am not easily offended for starters :-) !!!!!!!!!...but I sure do get angery at times which she also mentioned :-)...as well as all for demanding equal rights and freedom FROM religion .

All great comments and I thank ye each for leaving them. Sometimes reading something I agree with just helps me attitude for the rest of the day :-) ...and makes it ever so easy to leave comments on threads that I don't agree ..which is every rightwing extremist 'fundy' nut case thread posted on care2...:-)....along with their politicans,not so humble but very aggresive.... insanitea pleas !
 

Sheila D. (25)
Monday May 20, 2013, 7:01 pm
Well, I certainly understand why atheists might get upset by all these questions. Personally, I think religion is the source of most evil in the world, but I still believe in God and I still go to a Christian church. Have to admit, it's complicated. Another thing I completely understand: if you want to know what the bible REALLY says, ask almost any atheist. I was married to someone who had read the Christian bible, along with several other religious texts. That was his most convincing argument against religion. Thanks for the article, Lynn.
 

Edith B. (141)
Monday May 20, 2013, 9:51 pm
Thanks, Lynn. As one who has been questioning the things taught as a child, I found this very interesting. In my adult life, I have found that much cruelty and bigotry is done in the name of religion. Since I live in the Bible belt, I pretty much keep my opinions on that subject to myself.
 

Edwin M. (366)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:04 am
I have always felt that organized religion was more divisive than unifying and if one does believe in a creator ,the idea that the only place one can speak with or question such a diety is in a building filled with other people that hold the same beliefs is ludicrous. Thank you Lynn
 

Gloria picchetti (291)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 5:59 am
I think it takes mountains of faith not to believe.
 

Pat A. (116)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:47 am
Who the heck would ask such questions? Don't they have brains? (Oh, sorry - they're the same dumbos who ask us liberal Christians stupid questions). Green star to Lynn who has said it all for me - I think we are here in this world to increase the amount of love and kindness in it - and if atheists do that then good for them and I applaud them!

(Yes religion can be divisive - but so can the Golf Club Committee or the local Women's Institute or the Sewing Guild or the Allotment Association! When two or three are gathered together POLITICS and personalities raise their ugly heads - it is no surprise that bad people use religions to get what they want - it is just that the bad people do not constitute the real religion [whichever it is]).
 

James Maynard (68)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 9:42 am
A little wordy, but a good read. Thanks!

Reminds me of a day when a few Jehovah's Witnesses
came over to introduce themselves and were offering
us some "Macy's stolen cookie recipe" cookies, while
proclaiming what "moral" persons they were. Had to
work at keeping my jaw from dropping and asking them
if they could actually hear themselves speaking!!!

Politely declined them and their cookies......

them
 

ellen m. (222)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 9:34 am
I can't do it...I'll have to come back when I stop laughing about the "boy toy" thing Lyne ;-p
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 11:16 pm
@ Pam --- "THIS atheist is only truly angry when religious fundies try to subvert the separation of church/state, pass legislation to get their ''commandments'' enacted as law, etc."

AMEN!!! That should make everyone angry because it sets up a "religious classism" and there should be separation of church and state as ALL people are EQUAL.

@ Jae --- AMEN to freedom FROM religion if that be a person's choice. The constitutional right for freedom OF and FROM religion. That in and of itself should spell out separation of church and state.

One of the things I find amusing from the evangelicals is their reaction to Muslims who they say want everybody to convert to Islam. They are so vociferous about that, yet they are doing the same thing by wanting everyone to become evangelical Christians. The word èvangelise`literally means to preach the gospel and covert to Christianity.

@ Sheila D --- I think if we remember that God did not create religion, man did, and it helps keep things focused for man. Religion was man`s way of codifying his beliefs and of expressing his relationship to God.

@ Lee --- As I understand Buddhism, Buddhism is about a persons relationship with all about him --- nature, other people, etc and involves seeking enlightenment. How can anybody argue with that? What throws a money wrench in the deal is man`s interpretation of enlightenment.

@ Edwin --- My grandfather, a very wise man, was a spiritual man who believed in God. He went to church faithfully. But he could be equally as comfortable in the woods with nature all around. I like the Hindi word "Namaste" which means ``I bow to the god with in you``.

@ Pat --- Amen! People are divisive because they are basically selfish and want their own way whether in religion or other things.

@ James --- I hear you. I have had more than a couple of experiences with the JWs who told me I was going to hell for supporting gay rights.

@ Ellen --- I gave Philip a hard time about that one! He was doing some shit disturbing and said he had to have some fun some how.

Thanks everybody! Good discussion !
 

Nancy Black (302)
Saturday May 25, 2013, 4:19 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared, tweeted, and shared. I guess what I believe before I question someone about his sexuality, religion, culture, nationality or whatever is "Different Strokes for Different Folks." So I rarely question.
 

Sue H. (1)
Sunday May 26, 2013, 10:45 am
I don't believe in God and get a lot of hateful comments because of it. I'm supposed to burn in Hell because I tell people when I have psychic messages that can prevent them from being hurt and tell them about it. Because I feel or see things before they happen supposedly I'm in league with the devil and so it goes. I don't worry though because I do not believe in the devil, or Hell. What we create here on Earth can be either Heaven or Hell. Funny, that as a non believer I do not spread that same hate into the world. I don't try to change anyones mind as to their beliefs and only try to do good. I do not think religion is to blame, just stupid people who bend the religion to their own agendas. It was an interesting read, but very, very long.
 
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