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Israeli Police Continue Their Violence Against Palestinian Children, Brutally Attacking and Mistreating Them in Israeli Jails.


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John
- 794 days ago - presstv.com
They are banned from having family visits or legal rights and are not allowed to have any representation, they are forced to sign confessions in a language they do not understand because it is mostly Hebrew.



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John Doe (22)
Monday July 16, 2012, 12:54 am

Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:23PM GMT

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Interview with Maha Rezeq, child protection advocate
Well the fact that the Gaza Strip is geographically isolated from the West Bank so the kind of treatment children receive there is different. Children are put under arrest on border lines and during incursions by the Israeli military but they are also banned from having family visits, they are banned from having legal rights, they are not allowed to have any representation, they are forced to sign confessions in a language they do not understand because it is mostly Hebrew."

Israeli police officers continue their violence against Palestinian children, brutally attacking and mistreating them in Israeli jails.

The Israeli authorities arrest around 700 Palestinian minors annually. Some 200 Palestinian children are arrested on a monthly basis.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Maha Rezeq, child protection advocate, to hear her opinion on this issue. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.

Press TV: Some of what we saw there, it is slightly different in Gaza. Could you explain briefly why?

Rezeq: Well the fact that the Gaza Strip is geographically isolated from the West Bank so the kind of treatment children receive there is different. Children are put under arrest on border lines and during incursions by the Israeli military but they are also banned from having family visits, they are banned from having legal rights, they are not allowed to have any representation, they are forced to sign confessions in a language they do not understand because it is mostly Hebrew.

It is the same set of violations that are breached by Israelis against the Palestinians of the West Bank are the same in the Gaza Strip but the fact that they are isolated and the fact that Israel is taking those children breaking, breaching international law by detaining them outside the Palestinian territory is a violation in itself so it is more difficult for families to have access and of course ICRC is unable to arrange those visits and they are dealing with those constraints as well.

Whilst for the West Bankers it is more of the day to day discrimination as children in Israel who still fall under the civil [law], even the settlers fall under the civil law whilst the Palestinians juvenile they have to go through military Israeli court and the law there is completely different.

Press TV: In terms of the personal impact, people separated from family you are just thinking when that happens in a completely normalized situation it is traumatic enough when it happens sometimes at the butt of the gun, I can appreciate that it is a very difficult thing indeed?

Rezeq: It is a very difficult thing for different reasons. Children are not; when they are arrested families are not immediately informed of their arrest.

Press TV: Yes, where is my son? There was a demo, he has not come home, what has happened?

Rezeq: So the basic procedure is children should be informed of their legal rights, families they should be informed also of the location and the arrest of their child, children should be accompanied by their parents throughout their arrest investigation and so on, they should be represented and they should be told their rights and then they should be presented before a judge.

But children, they wait a long time that could go up to eighty days before they could see a judge unlike children from Israel who would just maximum would be held in detention for maximum 40 days before they can see a judge.

So you can see the complete differentiation, discrimination based on race between the children under the Israeli rule.

Press TV: But aren’t charities and NGO’s working in the area concerned with this? Aren’t they taking this to a more international platform?

Rezeq: Well Human Rights organizations are very aggressive and they are very active working to highlight those issues and there are lots of reports are being launched talking about the discrimination and the treatment between children even in definition of what a child is.

Under Israeli law for an Israeli child, the minors are considered 18 and under but while for the Palestinians after 16 they are not considered minors.

So all the rules of adults are applied to them and they are not even held in child detention centers, they are held throughout the detention and imprisonment with adults and that is also a breach of the CRC of Child Rights Convention.

But the thing that happens basically most of those reports are being ignored because Israel is not respecting all the Geneva Convention or international law. They are actually not recognizing that the West Bank is under occupation.

So they can always manipulate international law and they can argue about that it does not apply it because international humanitarian law only applies to occupied people.

Press TV: There is a really, the idea here that an Israeli person will see a Palestinian child as a potential threat and therefore must be treated in a completely different way.

Rezeq: Actually it is an Israeli prosecutor who basically said every Palestinian child is seen as a potential terrorist and therefore it is legitimate to, or in their eyes it is legitimate to arrest 700 children every year and until this moment I think around 200 Palestinian children are arrested on a monthly basis and they are going through all this humiliation, interrogations, shackling and all types of torture, solitary confinement, isolation, bad treatment, denial of legal rights and medical rights but this will only change when the international community will just hold Israel accountable to the treaties they are signatory of, to the international law and other laws.

Otherwise all these consolidated work of the international organizations, involved human rights organizations will mean nothing without enforcement of law, it will mean nothing.
 

Naoko I. (262)
Monday July 16, 2012, 3:59 am
No child should be in jail, let alone isolated from the family. If it is not a grave violation of humanrights, what is?
 

Naoko I. (262)
Monday July 16, 2012, 4:41 am
And now all over the world (?) animal activists are at rage and protesting agains BSL (breed-specific legislation) ...they are so furious (well, I'm, too) but I wonder if some of their enrgy would go towards "race-specific legislation" ??
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Monday July 16, 2012, 7:41 am
This is a report issued by the humanitarian news and analysis service of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs. It is dated 19 October 2011 . There are many other reports to follow,let us read this one :

Concerns over Palestinian children in Israeli custody

GAZA CITY, 19 October 2011 (IRIN) - While there have been emotional scenes after the release of 477 Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails, concerns are being raised about the plight of 164 Palestinian children from the West Bank in Israeli custody.

They were either sentenced or are being detained, mainly for stone-throwing, according to the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) which, along with other international NGOs, is appealing to the Israeli government to release all Palestinian children in Israeli military detention.

It is unclear whether the children will be part of the second wave of 550 releases in the coming two months.

“UNICEF calls on the Israeli Government to release Palestinian child detainees so that they can be reunited with their families,” said Jean Gough, UNICEF special representative in the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt). “As stated in the Convention on the Rights of the Child, the detention of children should be used only as a measure of last resort and for the shortest appropriate period of time,” she said.

The Israeli Justice Ministry was unable to confirm the number of Palestinian children detained by Israel.

Rami AbuHaneieh, aged 14 and from Hebron, was arrested by Israeli forces one month ago for throwing stones. “I have not been permitted to see or speak with him since his arrest,” said his mother, Khloud AbuHaneieh, a primary school teacher. His lawyer was allowed to visit Rami once, said Khloud, adding that her son may be released as part of the second wave of the prisoner swap.

International NGO Defence for Children International-Palestine Section (DCI-Palestine) also issued an urgent appeal for the children to be freed.

According to the latest figures released by the Israeli Prison Service and DCI-Palestine, on 1 October there were 164 Palestinian children (aged 12-17) in Israeli detention facilities, including 35 aged 12-15. Seventy-six of these children have been sentenced, while 88 children are being held in pre-trial detention.

The number of Palestinian child detained in Israel fluctuates, said UNICEF spokesperson Catherine Weibel in Jerusalem. In 2010, on average 250 children were in detention each month, and in 2009 the monthly average reached 300, she said.

Military and civil courts

DCI estimates each year about 700 Palestinian children aged 12-17 from the West Bank are prosecuted in Israeli military courts after being arrested, interrogated and detained by the Israeli army, police or security agents. According to UNICEF, over 7,000 Palestinian children were arrested and detained by Israeli authorities over the past 10 years.

Sabri Awad, 16, from Beit Umr, near Hebron, was arrested and detained by Israeli soldiers three weeks ago. “Our family and his lawyer have not been allowed to see or speak with him,” said his 18-year-old brother, Yousif Awad, unsure why Sabri was arrested.

In 2010 two children were being held in administrative detention (detention without charge or trial authorized by administrative order rather than judicial decree) in violation of international law, reports UNICEF, although there are none at present.

According to UNICEF spokesperson Weibel, Palestinian children from East Jerusalem are tried in civil courts administered by the Israeli police, just the same as Israeli children. Palestinian children from the West Bank are tried in military courts.

Palestinians arrested by the Israeli army in the West Bank fall under the jurisdiction of Israeli “military legislation”. This is a separate military court system that applies only to oPt, according to the Israeli army.

Radhika Coomaraswamy, UN special representative for children in armed conflict says: "Juvenile justice standards are clear; children should not be tried before military tribunals."

Since Israel’s “disengagement” from the Gaza Strip in September 2005, Palestinians from Gaza detained by Israeli authorities are generally prosecuted in Israel under civilian security legislation, and not under military law.

It is a violation of Article 76 of the Fourth Geneva Convention to remove children under military occupation from occupied territory, said spokesperson Weibel, thereby prohibiting family visits.

The Israeli army admits that most Palestinian detainees are imprisoned inside Israel, but argues that removing Palestinians from oPt is approved by the Israeli High Court of Justice and is consistent with Israeli law.

Ill-treatment

According to DCI, reports of torture and/or ill-treatment during the arrest, transfer and interrogation stages in the system, when children may be pressured to sign confessions, have persisted for years.

“Ill-treatment starts at the moment of arrest, when many children report experiencing terrifying night-time raids on the family home, before being tied, often painfully so, and blindfolded,” reports DCI.

Also, children continue to be interrogated in the absence of a lawyer and/or a parent, and continue to be denied bail in around 90 percent of cases in violation of Article 37(b) of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, according to DCI.

The Israeli Prisons Authority was unavailable for comment.

In 2010, there were at least 90 cases documented of the ill-treatment of Palestinian children while detained by Israeli authorities, says Weibel, and in 2009 there were at least 101 cases documented.

Hamas deputy foreign minister Ghazi Hamad, who participated in talks with Israel to broker the prisoner swap deal, told IRIN: “Nearly 200 children and medical patients being held prisoner may be part of the second wave [of prisoner releases].”

 

Michela m. (3934)
Monday July 16, 2012, 8:08 am
TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Noted
 

Jeannette A. (146)
Monday July 16, 2012, 8:19 am
War against children hurts us all... it promotes hate, destroys compassion and makes our whole world cry for justice. If we do not nurture and love the children of all peoples, there will NEVER be Peace.
 

Carrie B. (305)
Monday July 16, 2012, 8:25 am
How cruel and wrong. Children deserve happiness, peace, and unconditional love.
 

Henriette Matthijssen (145)
Monday July 16, 2012, 12:14 pm
Children are not adults & should not be arrested! Children will not understand why they are away from their family & why they are mistreated for just trying to live their lives normally without prejudice with equal human rights. This is wrong on all levels of the laws, regardless of where it is happening. We are all born equally with the same rights.
 

Angelika R. (143)
Monday July 16, 2012, 1:02 pm
I am as outraged about this as anyone in their right mind must be and I just cannot understand why it has been impossible so far to bring Israel to compliance with international law. What good does it if the UN file dozens of reports -or even resolutions for that matter- and yet Israel gets away with every atrocity and violating the law?
But then again I just learned from one of the commentators to Kit's post that "international law is in no way supported by Jewish values", if I understood that correctly...

We are signing for the hungerstrikers, why no petition letters for the children?
 

Angelika R. (143)
Monday July 16, 2012, 1:11 pm
I am also wondering if I perhaps missed a storypost here about Moshe Silman, the Israeli Jew who set himself publicly on fire in Tel Aviv on Saturday night. ? The letter he left is a testimony as to how Israel treats his own citizens...
 

Surunatik WTF (38)
Monday July 16, 2012, 1:36 pm
There are a number of news links to Moshe Silman on google
https://www.google.com/search?q=Moshe+Silman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a - I'm another one who can't get a hot link posted, sorry.

Israelis behave like bullies, thugs and criminals. There is no justification to treat children in this way, like animals. Again, those guilty of these deeds do not represent the feelings of all Israelis.
 

monka blank (74)
Monday July 16, 2012, 2:18 pm
This is sooo wrong. Children are no adults and can't be held responsible in the same way as adults. If my parents are hurt I'd be throwing stones, too I guess. There is nothing left for them, but aggression. What would you do, being surrounded by bullies ? Those children are left in a psychic despair - nothing justifies that. What does it take to end this ? Israel must be hold accountable, no child where ever in this world deserves this treatment. America : stop supporting Israel on all levels !!! If there was a petition, I'd sign it, for sure.
 

Betsy Bee (1058)
Monday July 16, 2012, 6:15 pm
Abuse of the truly innocent comes from fear and a sickness in the soul.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Monday July 16, 2012, 7:19 pm
SICKENING
 

beatrice d. (124)
Monday July 16, 2012, 7:42 pm
words fail when it comes to children
unfortunately it's all true. there is no inaccuracy.
what surprises me, still, is the total freedom Israel has and continues to enjoy.

 

John Doe (22)
Monday July 16, 2012, 8:13 pm
What surprises me is that this will never be reported in the mainstream media as it should be. Israel is to be protected from external observation at all costs?
 

Siti R. (12)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 4:27 am
too sickening! worst is the rich Arab nations are not combining efforts to influence the UN to punish Israel for these crimes. where is the justice??
 

Robyn M. (123)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 9:12 am
Children never forget!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 1:08 pm
as long as any being lives in fear, hate, exploitation and death at the hands of man so shall all men live under this same threat, don't fool yourself no one is free as long as another is oppressed. withdraw your consent for as long as we agree to the small things we have agreed to the big ones, the pebble seems so small but its effects are far reaching
protect life, prosecute those that seek to destroy our shared home and our fellow beings
life has value beyond measure
Peace and Love
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bilja c. (48)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 1:25 pm
Seems UN collected more documents than acted in past years. Is UN really objective,independent
and strong in various fields except politics?
 

Barb Mann (12)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 2:14 pm
It's wrong and it's cruel!
 

Heather Norstrom (51)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 2:29 pm
A someone that loves this site and disposes intolerance and bigotry of any kind, I see this article as a complete sham! This is completely untrue and another lie propogated by the arabs and their ilk that wish to anhilate Israel off the map. I don't see anything here about the way the arab countries treat the Israelis or anyone that doesn't follow their practices. The Israelis were not the ones laughing about September 11, they are not the ones that torture and behead innocents to show to the rest of the world, they are not terrorists, and finally, they are not the ones that send their children out there to blow themselves up and anyone else they can get their hands!!!!
 

John Doe (22)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 3:13 pm
'I see this article as a complete sham!" -?
 

Heather Norstrom (51)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 3:17 pm
And to you, Naoki, how dare you condemn animal activists for being outraged at breed specific legislation! One thing has nothing to do with another. However, if you choose to condemn racists/bigots (which I certainly agree with), how about going after the arab countries that continue to torture and murder innocent Israelis!! I am shocked at the ignorance of people in believing whatever garbage the anti-semetic UN and arab media puts out there. And for all you animal lovers out there, you would be sickened at how they treat animals!
 

Vicky P. (464)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 3:48 pm
heartless Israel.. when will this stop
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 3:55 pm
Hello Heather
You write"The Israelis were not the ones laughing about September 11," I am afraid that you missed a very important story The New York Times published two days after 9/11 and an important statement by Netanyahu 0n 9/11. Let me remind you with this story to know who danced on this occation the same minute the attack took place: Please read

1 - " On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

2 - The Five Dancing Israelis arrested On 9-11
As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question......Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)


One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab. (8)

(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these "Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")


Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.

White, 2000 Chevrolet van with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)

When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:


"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (10)

Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)


The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (13)

"...two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge ... The FBI ... says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.





 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 4:08 pm
Heather
You want to know more? Read :
It was reported the van contained tonnes of explosives (14).

What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (15), the New York Post (16), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (17) all clearly and unambiguously reported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (18), and Yediot America, (19) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five.

Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a "get-away van" to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 "mystery caller". A classic misdirection play.

From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.

The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me." These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through." (20)

A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (21).

Suter's departure was abrupt, leaving behind coffee cups, sandwiches, cell phones and computers strewn on office tables and thousands of dollars of goods in storage. Suter was later placed on the same FBI suspect list as 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and other hijackers and suspected al-Qaeda sympathizers, suggesting that U.S. authorities felt Suter may have known something about the attacks. (22)

The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers' vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

"There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11." (25)


Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." (26)
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How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?
It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents - here's the most logical scenario:

1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.
2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.


Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1
CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it." (27)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, "experts", and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval" and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the
9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." (28)

You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?

[A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (31)

"So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming" - Dick Cheney. (32)


To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find "lying around" in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (33)

There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government ... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now" - Senator Bob Graham. (34)

If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Senator Graham was an enemy of the United States the "compelling evidence" would not be kept secret for 20+ years.

One final point; at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (35). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories." (36)

Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (37) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?

Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, "A land without people for a people without a land." (38)

The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been labelled terrorists.



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"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html
 

Naoko I. (262)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 4:20 pm
To Heather, first, I'm not "Naoki" but ""Naoko"(oh, so you're not refering to me?!) and I did NOT condemn animal activists - did I not write "they're so furious (well, I'm, too)? Yes, I am furious and outraged, too, by animal cruelties. Plus, FYR, by humanrights violations by any country, including some Arab countries or Muslim countries. Indeed, one thing has nothing to do with another.
 

Robert O. (12)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 4:45 pm
Just sickens and saddens me to the core. Thank you for posting this John.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 5:02 pm
To Heather
1 - I responded to your comment " The Israelis were not the ones laughing about September 11," I actually agree with you 100% that Israelis were not " laughing " They were "DANCING"
2 - If you consider that this story is trash or garbage as you stated why is the result of the investigation that took place with these Mossad agents is classified?
3- what about your beloved Netanyahu statement about the attacks when he said""It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"

4 - It was not an Arabic newspaper/magazine that published the story and in such case it must be true because as you said "here in the US, they teach us factual history"
4 - I also will not even go into how hundreds of thousands of American women are treated
 

Surunatik WTF (38)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 6:26 pm

I am tiring of the vitriolic diatribes I'm experiencing in these posts. While personal attacks fly, it makes it difficult to come away with an enhanced perspective. Many of us have barely a cursory knowledge of Mid-Eastern issues, and this crap makes it damn hard to learn anything. I understand that the Israeli-Palestinian relationship should be called war, it is just undeclared internationally. That the deck is stacked in Israel's favor, atrocities, on both sides, abound. What can we really do beyond express our outrage, and call for an end to it. Nothing.

 

Surunatik WTF (38)
Tuesday July 17, 2012, 8:25 pm
Michael M. my point was valid, your disdain for it sad, if not insulting. But this sort of comment is common when someone jumps into a thread this late along.
 

Peace Monger (185)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 12:17 am
No child deserves to be treated as a felon. There is absolutely no justification of such treatment; I don't care if these kids are Muslim, Jew, Christian or atheist. They're kids! They have human rights & most of all, we, as adults have an obligation to assure each child has the opportunity to grow up without the fear of unjust incarceration.
If people can get worked up about defenceless animals, why is it so difficult to have compassion for a child? Are their hearts so hardened by the fear instilled by the media because of the religious beliefs of their society? If so, I find that cruel & inhuman; I have no wish to be a part of 'their' society.


The first peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us. ~Black Elk, Oglala Sioux



 

David Marchesi (0)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 3:51 am
The most sickening aspect of this story is probably the underlying support for bullying which is propagated by the media and politicians who dare not call Israel to account whatever it does.Of course, the US itself is proud to be "the bully on the block" (quote: Colm Powell, discoverer of wmd's in Iraq...and "No more My Lai's" fame) Very sad, and even more disgraceful if one is indignant when the victim of your bullying resists.Sow hate and you will most likely reap it. The Palestinians have been neglected/ignored by the outside world for generations, while the US taxpayers subsidise the Jewish State
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 6:41 am
Just another lie of many from Islamist propaganda against Israel. Arabs love using children - as a human shields during the shootings, their schools as cover for rocket launching and even child's art as a form of propaganda. Grand Mufti Hussein taught Hitler how to kill Jews better, and his modern followers continue the suite.

Palestinian Arabs are very lucky that they are at war with Israel: even the other Arab countries treated them by incomparably worth, and even US and Canada dealt with their enemy aliens population much harsher.

Yes, Islamists pay to children to go and through stones at Israeli motorists, or to attack passerby in secluded area. One can say that these children are doing it because of poverty and not based on racist indoctrination (I would think BOTH factors are true), but Israelis cannot just sit and watch juvenile criminals running the show without consequences.

David, why won't you go to visit Gaza and Israel to see things for yourself, rather than distributing Islamist propaganda. Islamists won't be good for you, we both know that.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 7:00 am
David M wrote: "The Palestinians have been neglected/ignored by the outside world for generations"???

Palestinians are the WORLD BEST PAID REFUGEES!!! UN considers a Palestinian Refugee any Arab who lived in Israel between Jun 1946 and May 1948, for just two freaking years! And then the title of "REFUGEE" together with a full pension from UNWRA is passed from one generations to the next without limitations ,forever. Only Palestinian Arabs managed to get such a sweet though racist deal, while all other refugees go under another UN body which never pays to DESCENDANTS of refugees.

Out of several million "refugees" Arabs managed to place on UN payroll and grab over 1BILLION bucks every year, Palestinian Arabs get about 2 BILLION more from the very same US taxpayers.

Arabs are the only ethnic group that thinks it's OK to leave care for their own to others. Saudis contribute about 7% of the costs involved. Within themselves - Arab states consider acceptable to ethnically expel Palestnian Arabs: Quwait, Iraq. To strip them from citizenship: Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt. To keep them in concentration camps: Lebanon, Syria.

And only Israel gave its Arabs full human rights.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 7:07 am
Naoko, as you mention "race-specific legislation", you should protest about racist laws of Arab states, stripping their non-Muslim citizen from basic rights.

Selling land to a Jew under Palestinian law is punishable by the Capital punishment. Christians are persecuted and leave Gaza and even West Bank. Bethlehem lost its Christian majority, with Islamists using Church of Nativity as a hiding place from Israelis.

In comparison, Arabs in Israel have ALL rights and had become Generals, MKs, businessmen, professionals, etc. Israel lets its Arabs live in peace and even maintains Arabic as a second official language.

You seem to be an honest lady. Please consider all the facts, and make sure they come from clean sources.

 

John Doe (22)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 7:43 am
"Just another lie of many from Islamist propaganda against Israel" - ?
 

John Doe (22)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 8:23 am
Israel's war crimes and crimes against humanity go unreported by media, Norman Finkelstein

The Canadian Charge.

In a presentation sponsored by Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East (CPME), at the University of Toronto recently, American scholar Dr. Norman Finkelstein said there was no war in Gaza: the so-called War in Gaza was a massacre. He also said the 2008-2009 devastation of Gaza may be but a prelude of what's to come in Lebanon.

Mr. Finkelstein was awarded his doctorate by Princeton University in 1988, and has subsequently taught at Rutgers, New York University, Brooklyn College, Hunter College and DePaul University (Chicago). His academic research has concentrated on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and its representation in political discourse.

He said that although Israel flew 2,800 to 3,000 combat missions, not a single plane was damaged because Hamas sat in its bunkers the whole time; an Israeli analyst said not a single battle was fought.

“After the first week of the air assault, the land assault began. The Israeli soldiers had special night-fighting equipment so Hamas couldn't even see them. One Israeli soldier said: 'There was nothing there. It was a ghost town, with only livestock.' Another soldier said: “I didn't see a single Arab the whole week I was there.' Another Israeli soldier said: “It felt like hunting season. It reminded me of a playstation computer game.' ”

Surreal though this may sound, Mr. Finkelstein said the reality is that this so called War in Gaza was really 22 days of death and destruction inflicted on the Palestinian people in Gaza. He said the Israeli military exploded white phosphorous – which burns at a temperature of 816 degrees Celsius – over schools, hospitals and markets, resulting in 1400 Palestinians deaths.

“Four-fifths of these deaths were civilians, of which 400 were children. Israel had 10 combat deaths and four civilian. The kill ratio was 100 to one. Is this a war or a massacre?”

Subsequently he asked the audience to raise their hands if they had heard that Israel claimed the high number of civilian deaths was due to Hamas using human shields and forcing people to gather near Hamas staging grounds. Although many in the audience raised their hands, few did when he asked them how many knew that of the 300 human rights organizations that investigated, not one reported any evidence of Hamas using human shields or forcing people to remain around buildings controlled by Hamas.

“That shows the power of media,” Mr. Finkelstein said. “The basic facts are not widely known.”

He added that Amnesty International said even if Israeli accusations of human shields being used were true, it doesn't explain the deaths in Gaza.

“Many were killed in their homes or going about their daily activities. Of the 400 children killed, many were studying or playing on their roofs or in their homes. All the human rights organizations said these actions were war crimes and crimes against humanity. They said Hamas committed comparable crimes, but not on a comparable scale.”

He acknowledged that Israel has the right to prevent weapons from entering Gaza, but noted that because both sides are guilty of war crimes and violations of human rights, under international law, both sides should be subjected to a weapons embargo.

Mr. Finkelstein said he thinks the real reason for the assault on Gaza was part of a plan to restore Israel's deterrence capacity, after it suffered military defeats in Lebanon in 2000 and 2006. He said a former US ambassador to Israel has predicted that Israel will attack Lebanon within the next 18 months.

“Israel has made it clear that it intends to do to Lebanon, what it did to Gaza – use massive force against the civilian infrastructure. Israel has said that the next war will be a game-changer. Hezbollah leader Nasrallah said the next war will be a tit for tat war – a factory for a factory and an airport for an airport. If missiles hit Tel Aviv there will be massive casualties. There's no way that Israel will accept a third defeat in Lebanon. If Hezbollah starts losing, it's almost certain that Iran will enter, knowing they will be next. It's difficult to know how it will end, but both sides will probably resort to extreme measures.”

With the possibility of war on the horizon, much is being made in the media of the peace process to try and resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; but Mr. Finkelstein said there has never been a peace process: it is just a facade for annexation.

“In September 1993, when the Oslo Peace Accord was signed, there were 250,000 settlers. Now, 17 years later there are 500,000 settlers. Fourty-two per cent of the West Bank has been annexed. When Palestinians complain about this, Israel says the issue of settlements must be negotiated in the peace process.”
 

Naoko I. (262)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 9:11 am
Bob, honestly, I might have not been noting or commenting on news/articles regarding humanrights violations and/or racial discriminations in Arab countries and/or Muslim countries as much as I should have done. But I condemn such abuses of course...
But does that make Israel eligible to do anything? I just want both sides stop their violences against each other...especially children.
 

Ilona a. (51)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 9:20 am
noted
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 9:44 am
The world is responsible for the tragedy Palestinians refugees are living in.UK or should we say the British who didn't own Palestine and who promised Zionism,which doesn't deserve, a HOME for Jews in Palestine is the first criminal.The last and lasting criminal is USA who gives first priority for what is called the security of Israel even before the security of USA.UN is the body which approved the creation of a Zionist state and ignored the Palestinians rights is also responsible.So they have to bear the responsibility of Palestinian refugees and to impose UN resolution regarding their right to return to their villages,towns,houses,farms and properties from which they have been driven away before and after 1948 by the Zionist terrorist gangs and IDF.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 10:10 am
Bob A. is here. Hasbara graduates collect money just to defend Israel whether it is right or wrong.Bob writes " And only Israel gave its Arabs full human rights."
First of all let us remember that Arab Palestinians lived in this land for thousands of years and that Zionists are the ones who immigrated to Palestine under British mandate. So Palestinians are the native populations not Zionists who came to Palestine from Europe in the first place.

Secondly listen to Lady Dayan.her husband Moshe Dayan was one of the founding fathers of the Zionist state called Israel. This is what she says:

1 - . “For Netanyahu, peace is just a word, and that [current Foreign Minister Avigdor] Liberman?...?he is the most terrible man in this country. The way he speaks about our Arabs, our Israeli Arabs, is unacceptable! I call Liberman ‘Doberman’: how can a man like that represent our country?!”
2 - I even said it on TV—this Doberman is insane!” Liberman has advocated for the involuntary transfer of Arab-Israeli citizens to a future Palestinian state in exchange for retaining Jewish settlement blocs in the West Bank, and has proposed a parade of anti-Arab bills.
These bills for example are :
*A law that allows Jewish communities to bar Arab families from living among them. Arabs make up about 20 percent of the population.
*A law that bars any state institutions, including schools and theaters—from commemorating the “Nakba,” or “catastrophe,” the term Palestinians use to describe the loss of their lands in the 1948 war that established Israel.
*A law that prohibits Palestinians from living with their Israeli spouses within Israel proper and denies them citizenship.
*A law that drops Arabic as an official language.

Tzipi Livni, former foreign secretary and head of the Kadima Party, told the Knesset that Arab states were “trying to become a democracy, while we—with these bills—are headed toward dictatorship.”
Most of these laws are being pushed by Israel’s rightwing Likud and Yisreal Beiteinu parties, but the proposal to drop Arabic comes from the Kadima Party. Ram-rodding many of these laws are Lukid’s so-called “fantastic four”: Danny Danon, Yariv Levin, Tzipi Hotovely, and Ofir Akunis.
“We are in the process of reducing freedom of speech and the freedom of association, and we are infringing on the right to equality, especially vis-à-vis the Israeli Arab,” Mordechai Kremnitizer, a professor of law and vice-president of the Israel Democracy Institute told the Financial Times. “We are also weakening all the elements in society that have the function of criticizing the governments, including the courts.

The last part of this comment was quoted from an article by Conn M. Hallinan who is is a columnist for Foreign Policy In Focus, “A Think Tank Without Walls, and an independent journalist. He holds a PhD in Anthropology from the University of California, Berkeley. He was also a college provost at UCSC, and retired in 2004. He is a winner of a Project Censored “Real News Award,” and lives in Berkeley, California. www.dispatchesfromtheedgeblog.wordpress.com
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 1:01 pm
Abdessalam, Arabs are not entitled for ALL lands of the Middle East, and don't blame others who wanted to share the land between all peoples who lived there.

Arabs got 22 states, while Kurds, Druze, Azeris and Jews have to fight them to get their own countries. Grabbing all lands left from the destroyed Ottoman Empire by Arab clans was a dirty page in history. None of those states managed to become a modern democratic state giving its citizen basic human rights.

Don't put the blame on Palestinian Arab refugees to the world, after your own Nasser united The One Arab Nation on its attack on the Jews and advised his Arab Brothers to leave Israel for a week to avoid harm while Jews will be exterminated. Traitors left, but Druze stay, and now you are trying to present traitors as refugees.

Nobody presents Druze as refugees, Abdessalam.

What is you comment on this facts:
"Palestinians are the WORLD BEST PAID REFUGEES!!! UN considers a Palestinian Refugee any Arab who lived in Israel between Jun 1946 and May 1948, for just two freaking years! And then the title of "REFUGEE" together with a full pension from UNWRA is passed from one generations to the next without limitations ,forever. Only Palestinian Arabs managed to get such a sweet though racist deal, while all other refugees go under another UN body which never pays to DESCENDANTS of refugees. "

Bringing up quotes from ant-Israeli Islamist propagandists does not make much of a difference.

David Buchan, this comment applies to you as well.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 1:11 pm
Naoko, thank you for the good words.

Just watch the terror Israeli Arabs commit against the Jews in Israel, Gaza and the West Bank: stoning motorists on highways, shooting, stabbings, arsons - and see if Israel is dealing with enemies and criminals, or it just abuses random kids for no reason, as this piece of Islamist propaganda wants us to believe.

 

jan b. (3)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 1:44 pm
The way it reads against the Israeli's it's terrible. But I don't really know if it's true or not.
 

Pat A. (117)
Thursday July 19, 2012, 12:23 am
Thanks for alerting us to this Abdessalam - awful news.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday July 19, 2012, 6:02 am
Bob A. You are repeating your old CD on your old gramophone over and over again .I am sorry to tell you that this shows one thing:you have no idea about history and geopolitics of the middle east at all.Many care2 members commented on your repeated ignorant comments and advised you to give yourself a chance to educate yourself ,read and know about all this but being a Hasbara graduate yourself you can't tell anything else rather than what you have given by Zionist propaganda.Wake up man,look around to see the truth if you can really get rid of the Zionism suit you are wearing.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Thursday July 19, 2012, 9:34 am
Abdessalam, you should realize that the world does not owe anything to the One Arab Nation. The One Arab nation is the only one at fault of what is going between the clans, including racist attitudes toward certain groups (descendants of Palestinian refugees) or religious intolerance (Sunni-Shia wars).

All members of the One Arab Nation have to realize, that they can pray to Allah five times or more if they wish, but they will have to provide for themselves and not rely on our tax money forever, be that Egypt, Jordan, Gaza or West Bank.

You can call my comments ignorant while cheering Islamists who took over Egypt, but we shall see in a year who was right, and if Muslim Brotherhood Mursi will bankrupt your country.

Finally: if you really believe that Allah will help, don't come to infidels for donations. Islamists have to show that their "Honour" is not limited to killings.
 

John Doe (22)
Thursday July 19, 2012, 9:50 am
Bob - You should be aware that Netanyahu and his hoods don't give a damn about human rights, just power and the destruction of Palestine, I have no idea where your head is but if you believe everything you read in US mainstream media you have a major problem.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Thursday July 19, 2012, 1:11 pm
John, Islamists, give much lesser damn about human rights. You know what is going on in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon and Syria in Palestine, and Israel fares much better off, Netanyahu or not, but Christians are not raped and expelled from Israel, "Honour" killings are treated as murders and Israeli Arabs are not ethnically cleansed or stripped from citizenship, like other Arab countries did to some Arab clans in Quwait, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan.

Comparing Israel with other countries in Palestine, I would say that Israelis are not the ones destroying the region.

A person who posts articles from Islamist presstv source cannot be taken seriously when discussing credibility of the news outlets.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Friday July 20, 2012, 9:57 am
I am really sure that Bob didn't read the title of this post.The title is " Israeli police continue their violence against Palestinian children, brutally attacking and mistreating them in Israeli jails". All my comments were related to the subject in question.You pop up with your comments writing about other things.I thought that you are going to challenge the article and present your evidence that proves it is incorrect or even as expected from some body like you to justify the criminal deeds of your beloved Zionist entity.Instead of doing so,you start your usual old hate comments about what you call Islamist.This makes me wonder if you have read the subject or you are flying high or even you have fallen short about the post and have nothing to say about it.

As for the Arab nation,I am sure that in few years the "United Arab States" will be a fact on the international theatre and I am sure that you and many others like you will regret this.

You write to John D. saying that "A person who posts articles from Islamist press tv source cannot be taken seriously when discussing credibility of the news outlets". Saying so is a failing attempt to twist facts. It is not only Press TV that shed the light on the criminal deeds of the Zionist entity. The source of UN reports I posted here is not Press TV.The reports are published by an international body. I know you are ready to say that Arab countries dominate UN,which is really funny. That is why I have decided not to post any other comments on this post because every reader is now aware of the fact that Israel is committing crimes against humanity including crimes against children.I don't care if you prefer to continue flying high.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday July 20, 2012, 2:37 pm
Abdessalam: "As for the Arab nation,I am sure that in few years the "United Arab States" will be a fact on the international theatre and I am sure that you and many others like you will regret this. ".

I will 100% agree with you on that one. Islamic Caliphate is coming, extremism in the Middle East runs high, and Obama is in no way to stop it.

Considering what this Caliphate will bring to the world, it will be no fun for many, and I won't be the one cheering it up.

I think you kids, Abdessalam, will regret it much more than I do: I simply won't travel to Egypt for vacation and will pick another spot. But your kids - they will have to endure all that Taliban-like Brotherhood rules, more extreme - the merrier - unless they somehow make it to EU/US or marry Israelis to get out of Egypt.

Let's see if YOUR KIDS won't regret it.
 

Betsy Bee (1058)
Friday July 20, 2012, 8:30 pm
Let us read this all again. Trivial bickering is so out of place. Children are being detained and tortured. That is what we are talking about.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 6:09 am
UAS ( United Arab States ) will be based on liberal Arab Nationalism. You will be surprised. You will not be missed if you chose to go to other places to spend your vacation.Egypt welcomes her friends from around the world and I believe you are not one of them.You will surely be welcomed in the Zionist entity for a refreshing course as a Hasbara graduate.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 6:16 am

Is it 1984? Reject the Levy Committee Report!



It seems to be 1984. George Orwell gave us, in his book by that name, the term “Doublethink,” in which “war is peace, freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.” The Levy Committee – an Israeli government Committee- with a straight face expects us to believe that occupation can be erased simply by defining it out of existence. But no one does believe it.


The committee’s report states that Israel is not an occupier in the West Bank. It asserts that establishing settlements in the West Bank does not violate international law. It recommends legalizing illegal settlement construction. It suggests facilitating additional settlement in the West Bank. Finally, it recommends permitting Israeli settlers to register land ownership in the West Bank. This is outrageous!


Prime Minister Netanyahu is preparing the report for government discussion. Right now, some officials are planning to submit a bill to the Knesset that would enshrine the Levy committee's recommendations in Israeli law. Adopting the recommendations of the report would cause terrible damage to Israel’s international standing. The relationship between Israel and the United States would be deeply undermined. Prospects for peace with the Palestinians and the Arab world would be devastated. Adopting these recommendations would be a definitive statement that the current government has no respect for the rule of law, for the commitments of previous governments to remove illegal outposts, or for the interests of the 96% of Israelis who are not part of the ideological settlement enterprise.


Tell Ambassador Oren: The Levy report cannot be accepted as law!

http://wfc2.wiredforchange.com/o/8682/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=8765
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 8:05 am
No Abdessalam, UAS will not be based on Arab Nationalism, it will be based on Islam, no matter if you like it, or not.

Now you can hope for a bright future, but the real picture is what Taliban did in Afganistan before they were dispersed by Americans.

Egypt successfully robbed and expelled Jews and Greeks. Now Islamists are starting imposing jizya on Coptic Christians - with 10% of population being robbed, that will last for some time. But after that, Abdessalam, when Coptic Christians will flee like Jews and Greeks did - Islamists will come after you. You look like a guy who may send his daughters to universities - and that will be un-Islamic. You want to have tourists, but Islamists are talking about blowing up the pyramids - they are idolatrious, and your president is silent.

Unless you are happy with Taliban lifestyle, your use of "we" when talking about Islamists has a limited lifespan.
 

John Doe (22)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 3:40 pm
Is it fun being a moron Bob?
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 4:25 pm
John, you may know better.
 
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